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Title: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Eddz on June 28, 2024, 05:48:38 PM
New album and after first listen it does not disappoint  8)

(https://t2.genius.com/unsafe/883x0/https%3A%2F%2Fimages.genius.com%2Fef5ff6ca9c0758d55566d55f8a226570.1000x1000x1.jpg)

https://open.spotify.com/album/1OrfJcqHIEKPTznudL6d97?si=dEwmdKhfRnqWPREdzMdGMw

01. Tapestry Intro
02. Born
03. Rap Music
04. Here I Am
05. Holiday
06. No Other Way
07. Parental Advisory
08. How Y’all Feel
09. Fall Down
10. Thorazine
11. My World
12. Yachts
13. Boardwalk & Park Place
14. Tapestry Outro
Title: Re: KXNG Crooked & Joell Ortiz - Tapestry Out Now
Post by: Dwax-187 on June 28, 2024, 07:08:14 PM
Wow some sicc cyphers on this.  First 3 songs are crazy.  :o

Thanks for posting.

Edit - Rap Music is my favourite. 

Would like to hear a beat like this with fast flows from Rass Kass, Sccit, and Crooked with TQ on the hook.  This album is dope  :o
Title: Re: KXNG Crooked & Joell Ortiz - Tapestry Out Now
Post by: doggfather on June 29, 2024, 12:14:07 AM
Is this their last one?!
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: topdogg188 on June 29, 2024, 03:01:40 AM
Gotta appreciate the work rate and quality they put out. This is like the 6th collab album now from them It only feels like roughly a year ago since the online news of Joell going at it with Royce and Joe Budden over the Slaughterhouse fallout and since then we have had
-Rise and fall of Slaughterhouse
- Harbour City Vol 1
- JFKLAX
- Prospect
- Tapestry

Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Tony Trey on June 29, 2024, 05:03:11 AM
Crook and Joell continue to pull the best out of each other. They both always seem so motivated when they work together. I hope this collaboration keeps going for the rest of their careers, because they keep getting better together.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Iowa1 on June 29, 2024, 05:37:04 AM
The album is great per usual.  These two sound like they are in their prime.  Like mentioned above, every project has been stellar
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Marco on June 29, 2024, 11:19:00 AM
Another West release! Crook & Joell are a great combo. Gotta check this. Thanks. 8)
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Marco on June 29, 2024, 12:02:44 PM
No well-known producer, but still a dope project. Crook & Joell are always on point.

Fav tracks: "Rap Music" & "Boardwalk Park Place". 8)
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: hitsaw on June 29, 2024, 12:09:54 PM
Is this released on cd?
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on June 29, 2024, 12:47:52 PM
Is this released on cd?


i hope so!
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Eddz on June 29, 2024, 05:14:52 PM
Born & Rap Music are my favorite tracks so far, Crooked announced on IG that this is their last project together which sucks.

Crooked always seems to sound better on these collab projects than his solo's, hope he can focus the same energy into his next solo which would be classic.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: WCThang on June 29, 2024, 06:28:52 PM
Gotta peep this!
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Tony Trey on July 01, 2024, 12:21:45 AM
Born & Rap Music are my favorite tracks so far, Crooked announced on IG that this is their last project together which sucks.

Crooked always seems to sound better on these collab projects than his solo's, hope he can focus the same energy into his next solo which would be classic.

Fuck. Really? That's so damn disappointing. Joell and Crook always brought the best out of each other. None of their solo projects are anywhere near as good as their collabs. Did he say why? Did they have a fallout?
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on July 01, 2024, 12:40:42 AM
we dont know why.

yet.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Tony Trey on July 01, 2024, 01:05:10 AM
The more I think about this being their last project, the angrier I get. They completely torched the possibility of a Slaughterhouse reunion in 2022, but after listening to that album and their many interviews, you understood why and at least they were going to keep collaborating for the foreseeable future as a consolation. Now two years later, they're like, "Nah, fam. We done"? What the fuck is that? You trashed everything the four of you accomplished for some short term gains? This really makes me rethink the end of Slaughterhouse. Were Royce and Joe right? Did Crook and Joell really crap on Slaughterhouse for a bag?  Either way, this album now really leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: astra4322 on July 03, 2024, 11:03:47 AM
The worst album from this duo imo.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Marco on July 03, 2024, 11:56:34 AM
The worst album from this duo imo.

Agreed.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: WCThang on July 03, 2024, 01:09:42 PM
The worst album from this duo imo.
Agreed. First few were more entertaining.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Dwax-187 on July 03, 2024, 04:54:13 PM
Agreed. First few were more entertaining.

Really?  Whats the best one or two albums they have?  Didn't even know it existed before this thread.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on July 04, 2024, 12:04:56 AM
H.A.R.D. (2020)
Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse (2022)
Harbor City Season One (2022)
JFKLAX (2023)
Prosper (2023)

the last 2 aint comin out on cd, the 1st 3 came.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Dwax-187 on July 04, 2024, 09:12:54 PM
H.A.R.D. (2020)
Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse (2022)
Harbor City Season One (2022)
JFKLAX (2023)
Prosper (2023)

the last 2 aint comin out on cd, the 1st 3 came.

I just listened to JFKLAX, Prosper, and Tapesty back 2 back 2 back.  The production sounds like one long album… 3 albums through. 

Lyrically- 5/5
Production 2/5

The lyrics and overall storyline can make up for the lack of production.  Good stuff Ill listen again. 

These guys are monsters who need some good production behind them.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on July 05, 2024, 02:25:05 AM
Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse (2022)
Harbor City Season One (2022)

are the 2 fav o mine.


rise is a therapy bout sh. the closing in music.
harbor is like a tv series. like the concept!
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on July 14, 2024, 09:47:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/L20G68bTmno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L20G68bTmno)
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on July 16, 2024, 01:52:24 AM
checkn right now!
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on July 16, 2024, 11:41:23 PM
after a few listen, this is a Crooked album with joell.

like HARD was a joell album with crooked.

the albums between are duo albums IMO.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Dwax-187 on July 17, 2024, 02:23:18 PM
Im liking this album the most out of the 3 I heard.  Rap Music is fire  8)
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Tony Trey on July 18, 2024, 05:41:42 AM
after a few listen, this is a Crooked album with joell.

like HARD was a joell album with crooked.

the albums between are duo albums IMO.

You know, that's a really good insight.  That explains why I like this album the least of their collabs.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on July 29, 2024, 01:36:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/Nq5jEaIZLx0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq5jEaIZLx0)
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on July 30, 2024, 08:26:08 AM
The more I think about this being their last project, the angrier I get. They completely torched the possibility of a Slaughterhouse reunion in 2022, but after listening to that album and their many interviews, you understood why and at least they were going to keep collaborating for the foreseeable future as a consolation. Now two years later, they're like, "Nah, fam. We done"? What the fuck is that? You trashed everything the four of you accomplished for some short term gains? This really makes me rethink the end of Slaughterhouse. Were Royce and Joe right? Did Crook and Joell really crap on Slaughterhouse for a bag?  Either way, this album now really leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

They released 5 albums together as a duo.  People grow, want to move on, do other things.  DPG did their own albums, Wu Tang did their own albums, Bone Thugs, etc.  As far as I know, there's no drama or anything like that, just wanted to branch out and do other things.  I respect that.  Crooked I started out as a solo, this Slaughterhouse/Joell group project was a fun thing to do for a while, but I don't think his intent was to be thought of a group member the rest of his career. 
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: abusive on July 30, 2024, 02:25:31 PM
H.A.R.D. (2020)
Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse (2022)
Harbor City Season One (2022)
JFKLAX (2023)
Prosper (2023)

the last 2 aint comin out on cd, the 1st 3 came.
You always talking about cd's. Did you post your collection before?
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: doggfather on July 30, 2024, 10:40:05 PM
You always talking about cd's. Did you post your collection before?


Got my own topic man:

https://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php/topic,264478.1650.html
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Tony Trey on August 01, 2024, 12:10:56 PM
They released 5 albums together as a duo.  People grow, want to move on, do other things.  DPG did their own albums, Wu Tang did their own albums, Bone Thugs, etc.  As far as I know, there's no drama or anything like that, just wanted to branch out and do other things.  I respect that.  Crooked I started out as a solo, this Slaughterhouse/Joell group project was a fun thing to do for a while, but I don't think his intent was to be thought of a group member the rest of his career.

Fine, but my point remains.  Why did they have to completely trash any possibility of ever having a Slaughterhouse reunion?  They could've just done their own thing, like they did with H.A.R.D.  Instead, they destroyed Slaughterhouse, but said they would remain "brothers" and would collaborate together for a long time and then, bang, two years and it's over.  So no more Slaughterhouse AND no more Crook/Joell.  If they hadn't trashed Royce and Joe, there could've been future projects from the four of them.  It just seems very short sighted, particularly from Crook and Joell who probably benefited the most from all the collabs, when you consider Royce is Grammy nominated and Joe is super successful podcaster.
Title: Re: KXNG CROOKED & JOELL ORTIZ - TAPESTRY (Official Discussion)
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on August 02, 2024, 10:16:44 AM
Fine, but my point remains.  Why did they have to completely trash any possibility of ever having a Slaughterhouse reunion?  They could've just done their own thing, like they did with H.A.R.D.  Instead, they destroyed Slaughterhouse, but said they would remain "brothers" and would collaborate together for a long time and then, bang, two years and it's over.  So no more Slaughterhouse AND no more Crook/Joell.  If they hadn't trashed Royce and Joe, there could've been future projects from the four of them.  It just seems very short sighted, particularly from Crook and Joell who probably benefited the most from all the collabs, when you consider Royce is Grammy nominated and Joe is super successful podcaster.

I think you're taking it too literally.  I took it as they were done making albums together and not to expect another one.  They can still collaborate, do guest spots on each other's albums.  As far as Slaughterhouse breaking up, that's been argued to death and i think they all agreed all 4 of them could've done things differently and they are all at fault.  I appreciate the honesty to the fans of them saying "hey guys, there's no more Slaughterhouse".  That's not trashing anything.  It's done, it's the honest truth. 

Plus you never know, it's easier to say something is done and never happen, then end up doing something years down the line.  Rather than them saying yeah someday will do Slaughterhouse again, and then get bombarded with fans bothering them constantly asking when it's gonna happen, and they promised it was gonna happen, etc.  Just kill any thought of it right now, then if some sort of reconciliation ever occurs, it'll be a nice surprise for the fans and not an expectation.

They already mislead the fans once by saying they were working on Glass House when it was DOA long before then, they don't want to mislead fans again.