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Title: Dogg Food
Post by: 2QUIK213 on October 16, 2024, 12:49:58 PM
Did Dr.Dre ghost produce the album?
I've heard this rumour, before.
Does anyone, have any info on this?
Thanks
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 17, 2024, 12:55:49 AM
I don't know for sure but I believe he did

the production is too good for him not to have been
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: dnjp4life on October 17, 2024, 03:27:05 AM
Which beats on the album sound like Dr. Dre produced them and not Daz and Soopafly?

I would say maybe 'Let's Play House' and 'Respect', they have a Dre feel to them and you could compare them to the sound Dre was working with at the time on Doggystyle and Murder Was The Case.  But the rest? I would say they sound like Daz productions to me.

I know there is that freestyle with Daz, Lil Malik, Nate Dogg etc that uses the beat to 'Bomb Ass Pussy' which I think was from the Doggystyle studio sessions, so we can maybe assume that this is a Dre production.  But didn't Dre have to do jail time around 94-95 which may take him out of the equation a bit when it comes to Dogg Food?
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on October 17, 2024, 08:58:06 AM
Did Dr.Dre ghost produce the album?
I've heard this rumour, before.
Does anyone, have any info on this?
Thanks

I had always heard Dre helped mix it and put his finishing touches on it.  But i do think Daz produced a lot of it.  Respect sure sounds like Dre, and maybe a few others.  I think they both worked together on a lot of it.  But Dre went ahead and let Daz have the credit because Death Row needed another good in house producer that other artists could use and was trying to make Daz a big name. 
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: 2QUIK213 on October 17, 2024, 09:11:03 AM
I don't know for sure but I believe he did

the production is too good for him not to have been

That's what I thought, because even though, I like Daz as a producer, he never really reached those heights again.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: BJV on October 17, 2024, 09:28:57 AM
That's what I thought, because even though, I like Daz as a producer, he never really reached those heights again.

I think if Daz had a bigger budget to work with for his projects and he had engineers and session musicians available similar to what he had during the Dogg Food recordings he could do it again.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on October 17, 2024, 01:19:56 PM
Nice Thread.

It's a great question to ask.  Like others said above, "Respect" seems like a Dre joint, Dre even does the intro and those keys and the spacing of it really sound like Dre.  Also, "Let's Play House" has that Dre intro and really sounds like a Dre beat. 

Someone mentioned how "Bomb Ass Pussy" might have been in the stash for a while and could be from Dre's Doggystyle sessions.  Interestingly enough it's been said in an interview that it was "Bomb Ass Pussy" that got Suge to greenlight the album.  Because remember they didn't really advertise the Dogg Pound in the liner notes of Murder Was the Case, it seemed like even Rage was ahead of Dogg Pound in the schedule or Dogg Pound didn't even have a schedule for a release until Suge heard "Bomb Ass Pussy".

Also Kurupt's performance lyrically.  It's kind of hard to believe that Daz was able to get all of that out of Kurupt.  Because we know how Kurupt can get lazy with his rhymes and just put any bullshit "Tyrannosaurus, Dracula, spatula" type of shit on a record and start to get carried away without Dre or Suge to put a foot up his ass.

My theory is that Dre was in the building.  Like Dre was hanging around, in the studio as the album was being recorded.  That some of the beats him and Daz had both worked on, but Daz was getting to use under Daz name.  Maybe that type of shit.  Sort of like the way that Mel Man had joints like "Year 2000" for Xzibit or "Hennesey and Buddah" for Snoop or "Welcome to LA" for Xzibit... all sound like Dre joints where maybe Dre was around and in the building.

Most likely scenario just based off the interviews and what's been confirmed--is that Daz produced the entire album but just Dre fixed a lot of shit in the final mix and sequencing.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Tony Trey on October 18, 2024, 11:23:37 AM
Most likely scenario just based off the interviews and what's been confirmed--is that Daz produced the entire album but just Dre fixed a lot of shit in the final mix and sequencing.

That's what I'm thinking as well. People in this forum really try their best to discredit Daz. He's done some great production after Dogg Food. It seems like he has good ideas, but needs a co-producer to help him with the technical aspects of making those ideas happen.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 19, 2024, 12:39:45 AM
That's what I'm thinking as well. People in this forum really try their best to discredit Daz. He's done some great production after Dogg Food. It seems like he has good ideas, but needs a co-producer to help him with the technical aspects of making those ideas happen.

like you said his best work is when he has a coproducer whether it be Dre, Soopafly, Mike Dean or Ivan Johnson

one question I always had is that Kurupt is credited as producer on "So Much Style" the last track of the album on my CD which is the US version

on discogs the European version has Kurupt listed but Daz on the US version

https://www.discogs.com/release/226063-Tha-Dogg-Pound-Dogg-Food

https://www.discogs.com/release/1290122-Tha-Dogg-Pound-Dogg-Food





Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on October 19, 2024, 11:16:00 AM
like you said his best work is when he has a coproducer whether it be Dre, Soopafly, Mike Dean or Ivan Johnson

one question I always had is that Kurupt is credited as producer on "So Much Style" the last track of the album on my CD which is the US version

on discogs the European version has Kurupt listed but Daz on the US version

https://www.discogs.com/release/226063-Tha-Dogg-Pound-Dogg-Food

https://www.discogs.com/release/1290122-Tha-Dogg-Pound-Dogg-Food

If I remember correctly, Kurupt even talks about producing one track on the album "So Much Style" in their BET Rap City Dogg Food episode.  It might be the part where big Lez asks how they are different, and Kurupt says how Daz is a perfectionist and just wants to keep doin shit over and how Kurupt is like "nah it's dope".

Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Fresh Bone on October 19, 2024, 01:38:43 PM
like you said his best work is when he has a coproducer whether it be Dre, Soopafly, Mike Dean or Ivan Johnson

one question I always had is that Kurupt is credited as producer on "So Much Style" the last track of the album on my CD which is the US version

on discogs the European version has Kurupt listed but Daz on the US version

https://www.discogs.com/release/226063-Tha-Dogg-Pound-Dogg-Food

https://www.discogs.com/release/1290122-Tha-Dogg-Pound-Dogg-Food

Kurupt is listed as producer on both of those discog links, my dude
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Sccit on October 20, 2024, 02:10:00 AM
This topic has been covered many times on here


and yes, it’s pretty much been confirmed that dre ghost produced the album
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 20, 2024, 03:04:52 AM
Kurupt is listed as producer on both of those discog links, my dude

the 1st link Daz is listed

Producer – Dat Nigga Daz (tracks: 1 to 3, 6 to 17)


Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 20, 2024, 03:10:21 AM
If I remember correctly, Kurupt even talks about producing one track on the album "So Much Style" in their BET Rap City Dogg Food episode.  It might be the part where big Lez asks how they are different, and Kurupt says how Daz is a perfectionist and just wants to keep doin shit over and how Kurupt is like "nah it's dope".

looks like Daz learned that from Dre


Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: 2QUIK213 on October 20, 2024, 06:21:35 AM
This topic has been covered many times on here


and yes, it’s pretty much been confirmed that dre ghost produced the album

I believe this, but anything in particular you could say?
Would love, if you could expand on this.
Thanks
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Sccit on October 20, 2024, 08:31:21 AM
I believe this, but anything in particular you could say?
Would love, if you could expand on this.
Thanks


-when u listen to it, you can hear that it is much more layered than daz signature style

-this is supposedly daz’s first production work and by far his best, which doesn’t make any sense 

-anyone with an ear for production can hear dre signature style sprinkled throughout the entire record

-this was a death row release at the pinnacle of death row records.. makes zero sense to not have dre productions on here

-suge was adamant in marketing daz as death rows next big producer and used dre’s ghost production to build another production star for the label


and the cherry on top was….

-both snoop and nancy fletcher confirmed that dre produced the album in separate interviews
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on October 20, 2024, 09:47:47 AM
This topic has been covered many times on here


and yes, it’s pretty much been confirmed that dre ghost produced the album

That would be pretty ironic then considering Daz has made claims -- insinuating the opposite -- that he did shit he didn't get credit for.  Because if that's true then he should keep it a buck, and be like "hell Dre co-produced the Dogg Food album but didn't get any producers credit"
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Sccit on October 20, 2024, 10:06:37 AM
That would be pretty ironic then considering Daz has made claims -- insinuating the opposite -- that he did shit he didn't get credit for.  Because if that's true then he should keep it a buck, and be like "hell Dre co-produced the Dogg Food album but didn't get any producers credit"


daz is all over the place, but he did check suge on that in the past

 https://www.complex.com/music/a/brad-callas/daz-dillinger-slams-suge-knight-claims-dr-dre-didnt-produce-doggystyle
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: 2QUIK213 on October 20, 2024, 10:29:38 AM
Daz always claiming credit for everything, lol
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Sccit on October 20, 2024, 10:51:47 AM
Daz always claiming credit for everything, lol


but in that instance he was being 100 and said he had nothing to do with doggystyle
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: 2QUIK213 on October 20, 2024, 01:46:53 PM

-when u listen to it, you can hear that it is much more layered than daz signature style

-this is supposedly daz’s first production work and by far his best, which doesn’t make any sense 

-anyone with an ear for production can hear dre signature style sprinkled throughout the entire record

-this was a death row release at the pinnacle of death row records.. makes zero sense to not have dre productions on here

-suge was adamant in marketing daz as death rows next big producer and used dre’s ghost production to build another production star for the label


and the cherry on top was….

-both snoop and nancy fletcher confirmed that dre produced the album in separate interviews

Thank you, bro.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Marco on October 20, 2024, 02:56:17 PM

-when u listen to it, you can hear that it is much more layered than daz signature style

-this is supposedly daz’s first production work and by far his best, which doesn’t make any sense 

-anyone with an ear for production can hear dre signature style sprinkled throughout the entire record

-this was a death row release at the pinnacle of death row records.. makes zero sense to not have dre productions on here

-suge was adamant in marketing daz as death rows next big producer and used dre’s ghost production to build another production star for the label


and the cherry on top was….

-both snoop and nancy fletcher confirmed that dre produced the album in separate interviews

Well explained for the homie.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 22, 2024, 06:13:02 AM
Daz always claiming credit for everything, lol

Daz, Suge and Snoop all seem to embellish the truth sometimes
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: 2QUIK213 on October 22, 2024, 07:15:23 AM
100%

We know Suge is a liar, but in the case of Daz and Snoop, maybe they were/are too high to remember everything, lol.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: nlaz on January 24, 2025, 10:08:54 PM
I think if Daz had a bigger budget to work with for his projects and he had engineers and session musicians available similar to what he had during the Dogg Food recordings he could do it again.

He displayed this on the Retaliation Revenge & Get Back Album along with the Deathrow Greatest Hits album on several tracks, where he had everything to his disposal and delivered.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Mat on March 10, 2025, 01:23:46 AM
Classic album never gets old 8) 8)
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Bossplaya369 on March 11, 2025, 03:58:07 AM
Some say there was an interview where Kurupt says "just shot a video for 'respect'"

Overdose produced on Dogg Food too

So did Emmanuel "Porkchop" Dean

Malik says on the freestyle "daz on the beat" dre did not do b.a.p.

Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 11, 2025, 09:46:13 AM
Some say there was an interview where Kurupt says "just shot a video for 'respect'"

Overdose produced on Dogg Food too

So did Emmanuel "Porkchop" Dean

Malik says on the freestyle "daz on the beat" dre did not do b.a.p.

I actually saw the MTV news clip where he says it in real time but I have never been able to find it on YT

I believe Overdose the track "So Much Style" which lists Kurupt as the producer on my CD

Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Bossplaya369 on March 11, 2025, 09:56:06 PM
I actually saw the MTV news clip where he says it in real time but I have never been able to find it on YT

I believe Overdose the track "So Much Style" which lists Kurupt as the producer on my CD

Wonder if Nancy Fletcher & Prince Ital Joe are in the video?

The reggae part is quite long so maybe he is?

Overdose did "Soo Much Style"

Also did "I Dont Bang No More" NOT "Smooth Jack" its OVERDOSE he confirmed it in YT comments.



Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 12, 2025, 08:00:30 AM
Wonder if Nancy Fletcher & Prince Ital Joe are in the video?

The reggae part is quite long so maybe he is?

Overdose did "Soo Much Style"

Also did "I Dont Bang No More" NOT "Smooth Jack" its OVERDOSE he confirmed it in YT comments.

I would think so, they are both integral parts of that track

yeah I had seen that, Overdose did a few joints for Kurupt, another one was "These Reasons" aka "DPG4Life"
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Fresh Bone on March 15, 2025, 01:36:02 AM
That was actually my video I recorded from Yo! MTV Raps in 1995 where both Daz + Kurupt host it (its called DP-TV) and they say Dr. Dre directed it and they actually introduce it as being shown next but it plays Onyx's All We Got Iz Us video.

Also, they talk about Got My Mind Made Up having a verse from Dr. Dre on it and they were waiting on Rage to record a verse for it too, this was all before 'Pac took it obviously, seems like it was recorded around summer '95 I think.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 15, 2025, 06:17:10 AM
That was actually my video I recorded from Yo! MTV Raps in 1995 where both Daz + Kurupt host it (its called DP-TV) and they say Dr. Dre directed it and they actually introduce it as being shown next but it plays Onyx's All We Got Iz Us video.

Also, they talk about Got My Mind Made Up having a verse from Dr. Dre on it and they were waiting on Rage to record a verse for it too, this was all before 'Pac took it obviously, seems like it was recorded around summer '95 I think.

I remember Method Man in later interviews saying they went to record Got My Mind Made Up for Rage's album

this is the first I heard that Dre had a verse on it, I wonder if he used that verse on a later track
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Fresh Bone on March 15, 2025, 10:32:36 AM
I got it slightly wrong cos I aint watched the video in years, Rage had laid a verse but they took her off cos she used the same verse on her album so they added Dr. Dre to the song.

Heres a clip of Kurupt confirming it;

https://mega.nz/file/PHZQFBzD#0j2DrefktnomAwQJmEnNhx0WexSQqgRspkZVy9RiMvc
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 15, 2025, 11:47:24 AM
I got it slightly wrong cos I aint watched the video in years, Rage had laid a verse but they took her off cos she used the same verse on her album so they added Dr. Dre to the song.

Heres a clip of Kurupt confirming it;

https://mega.nz/file/PHZQFBzD#0j2DrefktnomAwQJmEnNhx0WexSQqgRspkZVy9RiMvc

wow

so we had at one point or another all of these rappers spitting over that beat

Daz
Pac
Kurupt
Meth
Redman
Rage
Deck
Dre

thanks for the upload 8)
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Fresh Bone on March 15, 2025, 12:03:30 PM
While I'm at it, this was the intro for the video Respect they did on DPTV;

https://mega.nz/file/DGxSjDyA#sNlYh6eRFY_hc8OH9-1C6YNV1UebwfyQf7klRAhBlLo

Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 15, 2025, 12:50:23 PM
While I'm at it, this was the intro for the video Respect they did on DPTV;

https://mega.nz/file/DGxSjDyA#sNlYh6eRFY_hc8OH9-1C6YNV1UebwfyQf7klRAhBlLo

props, never saw this 8)

I saw an MTV news clip which I believe was at the set of the Respect video

I wish I had recorded it
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Dee Tha AK on March 16, 2025, 01:04:42 AM
While I'm at it, this was the intro for the video Respect they did on DPTV;

https://mega.nz/file/DGxSjDyA#sNlYh6eRFY_hc8OH9-1C6YNV1UebwfyQf7klRAhBlLo

File Not Safe

Got another link? T.I.A.
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Fresh Bone on March 16, 2025, 01:30:47 AM
File Not Safe

Got another link? T.I.A.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/rcklxh3mt705ku0/Tha+Dogg+Pound+-+Yo!+MTV+Raps+(Respect).mp4/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/cahuyw52rju07o9/Tha+Dogg+Pound+-+Yo!+MTV+Raps+(normal+volume)+(LQ+-+WMV)+(Full+-+no+adverts)+(online-video-cutter.com).mp4/file
Title: Re: Dogg Food
Post by: Dee Tha AK on March 18, 2025, 02:29:41 AM
https://www.mediafire.com/file/rcklxh3mt705ku0/Tha+Dogg+Pound+-+Yo!+MTV+Raps+(Respect).mp4/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/cahuyw52rju07o9/Tha+Dogg+Pound+-+Yo!+MTV+Raps+(normal+volume)+(LQ+-+WMV)+(Full+-+no+adverts)+(online-video-cutter.com).mp4/file

Just Watched

Dr. Dre directed it?

No mention of Ital Joe