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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: abusive on February 27, 2025, 09:00:42 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBVmbbVhIgU
Some East Coast bias here but he makes some good points. Don't come at me (nh) over dis video, i'll pop the mess out of u. lol :hubie:
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Dre "didn't come with no big records on there or nothing like that, except for Phone Tap and a couple of other joints"
Dre only did like 5 joints on that record I believe and Phone Tap was the biggest single of the album lol
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Dre "didn't come with no big records on there or nothing like that, except for Phone Tap and a couple of other joints"
Dre only did like 5 joints on that record I believe and Phone Tap was the biggest single of the album lol
Mainly produced by Chris 'The Glove' Taylor. The biggest problem with that album is the production. It's all so disjointed. Should have stuck with the French/Italian samples. '5 Minutes To Flush' stands out as the worst beat on it. Especially since '4 In The Morning' fits the sound 1000x better.
And it's absolutely criminal that this 'The Untouchables' sampling song wasn't on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diqodK55NJ8&pp=ygUTdGhlIGZpcm0gdW5yZWxlYXNlZA%3D%3D
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Mainly produced by Chris 'The Glove' Taylor. The biggest problem with that album is the production. It's all so disjointed. Should have stuck with the French/Italian samples. '5 Minutes To Flush' stands out as the worst beat on it. Especially since '4 In The Morning' fits the sound 1000x better.
And it's absolutely criminal that this 'The Untouchables' sampling song wasn't on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diqodK55NJ8&pp=ygUTdGhlIGZpcm0gdW5yZWxlYXNlZA%3D%3D
Glove only came wit the idea for the beat on Phone Tap
Dre is the one who produced it and made it a classic
Dre is the most disrespected producer in hip hop
he's a true producer in every sense of the world, while most producers nowadays wouldn't know how to craft a track if their life depended on it
by far the GOAT
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If you can't admit that he was sayin' some real ish, youire just a lover.
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If your gauge is commercial success, Dre had a part in producing 8 out of the top 20 best selling rap albums of all time.
If critical success is your gauge, an argument could be made that he was involved in or produced on 15 of the top 100 critically acclaimed rap albums of all time.
No other producer is touching that. A person could make an argument that they don't like his sound or the way that he produces, but the results speak for themselves.
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Big Hutch and Daz are the best westcoast producers in history
Dr Dre 1988 1994
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Big Hutch and Daz are the best westcoast producers in history
Dr Dre 1988 1994
You seriously going to forget about the hits dre made after 94'?
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Big Hutch and Daz are the best westcoast producers in history
:damn:
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Dre is the most disrespected producer in hip hop
by far the GOAT
"Physics of Hate" is a real thing.
Dr. Dre is NOT mentioned in the video, it's about the hate you get being at top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z27Dw3WAMRg
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Big Hutch and Daz are the best westcoast producers in history
lmfaooooooo
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How tf did you even find this fool lol?
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Glove only came wit the idea for the beat on Phone Tap
Dre is the one who produced it and made it a classic
Dre is the most disrespected producer in hip hop
his a true producer in every sense of the world, while most producers nowadays wouldn't know how to craft a track if their life depended on it
by far the GOAT
Remember that The Firm got the track second. It was a Kim Summerson/Eve track first.
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You seriously going to forget about the hits dre made after 94'?
yes but mainstream nothing compare to NWA or the first chronic ;
real hip hop heads know their shit , Above the Law Legends , time will reveal Big Hutch solos , Daz solos are on another level .
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yes but mainstream nothing compare to NWA or the first chronic ;
real hip hop heads know their shit , Above the Law Legends , time will reveal Big Hutch solos , Daz solos are on another level .
u need help
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I thought his G Funk comment was interesting. Can anyone speak on that, is there any truth in that?
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yes but mainstream nothing compare to NWA or the first chronic ;
real hip hop heads know their shit , Above the Law Legends , time will reveal Big Hutch solos , Daz solos are on another level .
This is not another soul on earth, besides Daz's family that believes that he created a solo album as good as any of Dr. Dre's solo albums.
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This is not another soul on earth, besides Daz's family that believes that he created a solo album as good as any of Dr. Dre's solo albums.
not even daz's family
shit, even daz admits dre is the goat
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not even daz's family
shit, even daz admits dre is the goat
I don't know about sonically or production quality wise, but I will say I like Daz's Revenge Retaliation and Getback, as well as RAW much better than Dre's Compton album and the Contract EP.
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I don't know about sonically or production quality wise, but I will say I like Daz's Revenge Retaliation and Getback, as well as RAW much better than Dre's Compton album and the Contract EP.
those first 2 albums are borderline classic
mostly old Death Row stuff that Daz took with him for the RAW album though
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Dre is a good producer, but he didn't make the beats he's credited for.
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Dre is a good producer, but he didn't make the beats he's credited for.
yes he did
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I don't know about sonically or production quality wise, but I will say I like Daz's Revenge Retaliation and Getback, as well as RAW much better than Dre's Compton album and the Contract EP.
so you like rap albums from the 90s over rap albums from the 2010s and 2020s
congrats
also, reggie miller in his prime was better than michael jordan on the wizards
LOL
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those first 2 albums are borderline classic
mostly old Death Row stuff that Daz took with him for the RAW album though
Any links to some of the instrumentals from RAW?
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so you like rap albums from the 90s over rap albums from the 2010s and 2020s
congrats
also, reggie miller in his prime was better than michael jordan on the wizards
LOL
Does that seem unusual to you? Are we only allowed to compare rap albums made the same year? Someone said there wasn't a single person here who would think any DAZ album is better than any DRE album, I beg to differ. If you wanna move the goalposts to that argument where the albums have to be from the same year, then so be it.
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Any links to some of the instrumentals from RAW?
wish I did
the only one that I saw listed was this
https://www.discogs.com/release/4985229-Daz-Dillinger-What-Cha-Talkin-Bout-RAW
unfortunately doesn't look like anyone has it for sale
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wish I did
the only one that I saw listed was this
https://www.discogs.com/release/4985229-Daz-Dillinger-What-Cha-Talkin-Bout-RAW
unfortunately doesn't look like anyone has it for sale
Artist are missing out on streams and sales by not releasing the instrumentals.
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wish I did
the only one that I saw listed was this
https://www.discogs.com/release/4985229-Daz-Dillinger-What-Cha-Talkin-Bout-RAW
unfortunately doesn't look like anyone has it for sale
https://94hiphop.com/?s=Daz+Dillinger
is the ultimate hook up spot for rap, but they don't have the single.
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Does that seem unusual to you? Are we only allowed to compare rap albums made the same year? Someone said there wasn't a single person here who would think any DAZ album is better than any DRE album, I beg to differ. If you wanna move the goalposts to that argument where the albums have to be from the same year, then so be it.
when comparing artists were speaking of their prime years
nobody says jake paul is a better boxer than mike tyson because he beat him as an old man
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I don't know about sonically or production quality wise, but I will say I like Daz's Revenge Retaliation and Getback, as well as RAW much better than Dre's Compton album and the Contract EP.
The thread is about Dre as a producer. Production wise (or otherwise) none of his albums are touching any of Dre's albums. I don't consider the Contract as an official album, but I would argue that production wise it is still better than any of DAZ's projects (without Dre).
And that is not a knock on Daz. I love his Revenge Retaliation and Get Back. Still listen to it, objectively it is not touching any of Dre's albums production wise.
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https://94hiphop.com/?s=Daz+Dillinger
is the ultimate hook up spot for rap, but they don't have the single.
Artist are missing out on streams and sales by not releasing the instrumentals.
I miss those days when artists used to release a single with the clean version and Instrumental along with the LP version
and then you had the B-Side with the same format
(https://i.discogs.com/oCtwYV439utFspxBBb1cQZetJJ79srA4E9SKdi_0R8s/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:480/w:479/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTQ5ODUy/MjktMTM4MTM3NDY5/OS02Njg5LmpwZWc.jpeg)
(https://i.discogs.com/xjYRfOzSZGl56_ObH64ukoRai6J2HkAEFN9_OXTAVqk/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:480/w:476/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTQ5ODUy/MjktMTM4MTM3NDcx/Ny0xNDI4LmpwZWc.jpeg)
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I think dj premier is the most overrated, also pharell.
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when comparing artists were speaking of their prime years
nobody says jake paul is a better boxer than mike tyson because he beat him as an old man
Cool, so you admit Daz in his prime is better than Dre has been the last 10 years?
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Cool, so you admit Daz in his prime is better than Dre has been the last 10 years?
not better, but making the style of music i can feel more, for sure
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not better, but making the style of music i can feel more, for sure
Yes, so you like Daz's stuff in his prime better than Dre's now. Daz made better music in his prime than Dre makes now. I agree with you.
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Yes, so you like Daz's stuff in his prime better than Dre's now. Daz made better music in his prime than Dre makes now. I agree with you.
it's more my taste .. 90s gangsta shit .. no doubt
but not better produced objectively speaking
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it's more my taste .. 90s gangsta shit .. no doubt
but not better produced objectively speaking
So the post was "There is not another soul on earth, besides Daz's family that believes that he created a solo album as good as any of Dr. Dre's solo albums."
Nothing about better production, just the album overall was better. Actually, not even BETTER, but just AS GOOD. So, based on your personal tastes, because that's all you can really use to determine if you like an album better, there are many souls on Earth who do think Daz created a better solo album than Dre. Myself being one who thinks there are better Daz albums out there than Dre albums. And you also think that, correct?
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I would gladly take nearly any Daz solo album over Compton, the GTA soundtrack, and Missionary. I don't care how well produced they are from a technical level. I just don't like how they sound.
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So the post was "There is not another soul on earth, besides Daz's family that believes that he created a solo album as good as any of Dr. Dre's solo albums."
Nothing about better production, just the album overall was better. Actually, not even BETTER, but just AS GOOD. So, based on your personal tastes, because that's all you can really use to determine if you like an album better, there are many souls on Earth who do think Daz created a better solo album than Dre. Myself being one who thinks there are better Daz albums out there than Dre albums. And you also think that, correct?
it's not better produced
just has a more enjoyable sound there's a difference
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I would gladly take nearly any Daz solo album over Compton, the GTA soundtrack, and Missionary. I don't care how well produced they are from a technical level. I just don't like how they sound.
i agree that id take multiple daz albums over the contract and missionary
compton has an excellent sound tho
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it's not better produced
just has a more enjoyable sound there's a difference
Now who is hung up on semantics? :) We're talking about the overall album. Production is just one aspect. I understand you think Dre is an overall better producer over the span of his 40 year career.
Daz has created some better albums than Dre. That's all that is being said here.
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Now who is hung up on semantics? :) We're talking about the overall album. Production is just one aspect. I understand you think Dre is an overall better producer over the span of his 40 year career.
Daz has created some better albums than Dre. That's all that is being said here.
u can say that
but compton is still objectively far better produced than any daz album
layering, structure, sonic mastery .... all a cut above
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u can say that
but compton is still objectively far better produced than any daz album
layering, structure, sonic mastery .... all a cut above
Sure, i'll give you that. It takes more than good production to make a good album. Obviously with Dre's production budget and technology advances, I would hope that album (Compton) sounds better sonically than an album made 20 years prior and was released independently on a small budget (RAW), Dre would look like an absolute fool if it wasn't. I would argue based on those facts, it's even crazier Daz's RRGB and RAW are better than Compton and The Contract EP when looking at the albums overall and not stictly production.
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what I don't get is the falloff from Compton's production to Missionary
the only thing I could come up with is his health issues and personal problems took a toll
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what I don't get is the falloff from Compton's production to Missionary
the only thing I could come up with is his health issues and personal problems took a toll
that part
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what I don't get is the falloff from Compton's production to Missionary
the only thing I could come up with is his health issues and personal problems took a toll
That and he's surrounded himself with "Yes" men who will not give him an objective opinion on how his stuff sounds because they don't wanna burn bridges because they hope someday Dre laces them with a track. You look back to every single interview done about Missionary with people from the inside and every one of them said it's groundbreaking, mindblowing, something of a next level quality. And this is what we ended up with. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice album. But no way did it live up to the hype. Were all these people just clueless? Did these amazing great cuts they were all talking about not making the final cut? Or is there something more to this.....?
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what I don't get is the falloff from Compton's production to Missionary
the only thing I could come up with is his health issues and personal problems took a toll
I don't get the hate that Missionary gets.
Yes, the three tracks that was pushed >
-Outta Da Blue 💩
-Gorgeous 💩
-Another Part of Me 💩
all of them is terrible, but don't let that cast so much of a shadow that you can't enjoy the rest.
There's some terrible tracks on Doggystyle as well, but it's considered a bonafide classic.
-Lodi dodi 💩
-Who am I? (What's my name?) 💩
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I don't get the hate that Missionary gets.
Yes, the three tracks that was pushed >
-Outta Da Blue 💩
-Gorgeous 💩
-Another Part of Me 💩
all of them is terrible, but don't let that cast so much of a shadow that you can't enjoy the rest.
There's some terrible tracks on Doggystyle as well, but it's considered a bonafide classic.
-Lodi dodi 💩
-Who am I? (What's my name?) 💩
lmao @ lodi dodi and who am i being terrible
stop
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lmao @ lodi dodi and who am i being terrible
stop
I simply HATE them.
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My favorite Daz BEATS in no order
-Dogg pound gangstaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uahZfx115fo
-A doggz day afternoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNGckCgQ1Vk
-What Would You Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp3TErlFw1M
-Got My Mind Made Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaJ2frIrARc
-Ambitionz Az a Ridah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77nB_9uIcN4
-Initiated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewOor_nuUh0&list=OLAK5uy_nVqBpA9j5S33jNWSNAM0TEWUMUGqIYL6w&index=7
-RAW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMWPTUwbkb4
-The Streetz Iz A Mutha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijeZMuDXdHc
My favorite Dr. Dre BEATS in the last five years (in no order)
-One Shot One Kill (ft.Snoop Dogg of Dpg & Jon Connor) (Prod.by Dr. Dre & Focus)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fiol0CYn6p8
-Loose Cannons (ft.Xzibit,Cold 187um of Above The Law & Sly Pyper) (Prod.by Dr. Dre & Focus)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSD4535j-yU
-It's All On Me (ft.Justus & BJ the Chicago Kid) (Prod.by Dr. Dre & Bink!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm8GMiXAo2A
-ETA (ft. Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes & Anderson .Paak)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p32T8Re1sTs
-Black Privilege
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHYRhf2Mij4
-Last Dance with Mary Jane (ft. Tom Petty & Jelly Roll)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ziZRyY0G4s
-Thank You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtvmugaGyjc
-Sticcy Situation (ft. K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMXT27iYnRg
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So the post was "There is not another soul on earth, besides Daz's family that believes that he created a solo album as good as any of Dr. Dre's solo albums."
Nothing about better production, just the album overall was better. Actually, not even BETTER, but just AS GOOD. So, based on your personal tastes, because that's all you can really use to determine if you like an album better, there are many souls on Earth who do think Daz created a better solo album than Dre. Myself being one who thinks there are better Daz albums out there than Dre albums. And you also think that, correct?
it's not better produced
just has a more enjoyable sound there's a difference
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Daz would not have made those beats you like if it wasn’t for Dre.
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Dr.Dre is definitely overrated. Musically I find his sound to be one sided. In 2025 I find Jermaine Dupri, Kanye and even Just Blaze better than him
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Daz would not have made those beats you like if it wasn’t for Dre.
Also very true.
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My favorite Daz BEATS in no order
-Dogg pound gangstaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uahZfx115fo
-A doggz day afternoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNGckCgQ1Vk
-What Would You Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp3TErlFw1M
-Got My Mind Made Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaJ2frIrARc
-Ambitionz Az a Ridah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77nB_9uIcN4
-Initiated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewOor_nuUh0&list=OLAK5uy_nVqBpA9j5S33jNWSNAM0TEWUMUGqIYL6w&index=7
-RAW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMWPTUwbkb4
-The Streetz Iz A Mutha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijeZMuDXdHc
My favorite Dr. Dre BEATS in the last five years (in no order)
-One Shot One Kill (ft.Snoop Dogg of Dpg & Jon Connor) (Prod.by Dr. Dre & Focus)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fiol0CYn6p8
-Loose Cannons (ft.Xzibit,Cold 187um of Above The Law & Sly Pyper) (Prod.by Dr. Dre & Focus)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSD4535j-yU
-It's All On Me (ft.Justus & BJ the Chicago Kid) (Prod.by Dr. Dre & Bink!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm8GMiXAo2A
-ETA (ft. Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes & Anderson .Paak)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p32T8Re1sTs
-Black Privilege
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHYRhf2Mij4
-Last Dance with Mary Jane (ft. Tom Petty & Jelly Roll)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ziZRyY0G4s
-Thank You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtvmugaGyjc
-Sticcy Situation (ft. K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMXT27iYnRg
those first 3 dre beats are 10 years old
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those first 3 Dre beats are 10 years old
Sorry, I forgot to add (the last 10 years?)
when comparing artists were speaking of their prime years
nobody says jake paul is a better boxer than mike tyson because he beat him as an old man
Cool, so you admit Daz in his prime is better than Dre has been the last 10 years?
not better, but making the style of music i can feel more, for sure
Yes, so you like Daz's stuff in his prime better than Dre's now. Daz made better music in his prime than Dre makes now. I agree with you.
it's more my taste .. 90s gangsta shit .. no doubt
but not better produced objectively speaking
Not sure what my conclusion is after comparing the beats.
The Daz beats are classic, the Dre beats are not, but that doesn't mean I can't like them as much as the Daz beats.
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lmao @ lodi dodi and who am i being terrible
stop
I've read some utter shit on this forum over the years but imagine hating on Lodi Dodi! It's not as good as the original but even Snoop knows it's not meant to be!Signup's need to come with a questionare in the future. Weed out these wild opinions haha
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I've read some utter shit on this forum over the years but imagine hating on Lodi Dodi! It's not as good as the original but even Snoop knows it's not meant to be! Signup's need to come with a questionare in the future. Weed out these wild opinions haha
I can't count how many times I've listened to the original all those years from 1985 until Snoop's version in 1993. It's not Snoop's performance I'm complaining about, it's the beat. Has to be the worst beat Dre made during his Death Row period. In case you're wondering, I was born in 1971... so yes old enough to have grown up with the original. I'm not here to argue, it's just my honest opinion.
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I've read some utter shit on this forum over the years but imagine hating on Lodi Dodi! It's not as good as the original but even Snoop knows it's not meant to be!Signup's need to come with a questionare in the future. Weed out these wild opinions haha
yeah that is pretty wild ;D
the only negative thing about Doggystyle imo is that even thought every track was classic, it was a couple of songs too short
also it didn't contain a Dre verse
those 2 things could be fixed by keeping Gz Up Hoez Down and Tha Next Episode on the album
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Assuming everyone agrees that all the rap albums that Dr. Dre has produced top-to-bottom are classics, there's still a track or two I don't like on each of them.
Eazy-E: Eazy-Duz-it (1988)
-I’mma Break it Down
-Chapter 8 verse 10
N.W.A: Straight Outta Compton (1988)
-I Ain’t the One
-Something 2 dance 2
The D.O.C: No One Can Do it Better (1989)
-Beautiful But Deadly
N.W.A: 100 Miles and Runnin’ (1990)
-Kamurshol / outro (counts or not?)
N.W.A: Niggaz4life (1991)
-One Less Bitch
Dr. Dre: The Chronic (1992)
-The Roach / outro (counts or not?)
Snoop Dogg: Doggystyle (1993)
-Lodi Dodi
-What’s my name
Dr. Dre: Chronic 2001 (1999)
-Let’s Get High
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Dr. Dre is a brand name with various producers combined each era.
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Dr. Dre is a brand name with various producers combined each era.
Well said.
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Bruce produced most of Dre's beatsss
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Dre is far from overrated
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Who is Bruce???
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Who is Bruce???
https://www.amazon.com/Rollin-Dre-Unauthorized-Account-Insiders/dp/B003GAN1IY
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Dr. Dre is a brand name with various producers combined each era.
I don't know man...I'm not saying he makes the beats from scratch but he certainly puts it all together by the end
and everything Dre has had his hand in up to maybe 2015 or so was either classic or dope
not feeling his production on Missionary but everything has an expiration date
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I don't know man...I'm not saying he makes the beats from scratch but he certainly puts it all together by the end
and everything Dre has had his hand in up to maybe 2015 or so was either classic or dope
not feeling his production on Missionary but everything has an expiration date
Everytime dre is mentioned the "beat maker vs producer' discussion comes up..
Only dre. Never othets.
Yall are sayin dre is rick rubin (still no odea whst the man exactly does)
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Dre is a hiphop legend, no doubt about it. From 87 to today, still doing it, even the staunchest Dre haters have to give him props for the longevity and the amount of hits he's had (whether he's fully produced them or had ghost writers, whatever).
Now, today is he overrated? Absolutely. Is the stuff he's producing today the best out there right now? No, of course not. Just like is E-40 the best rapper today? Is Too Short the best rapper today? No, they aren't. But they still get their props for being legends, and i still enjoy listening to their songs at times. Dre is in this category now.
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I don't know man...I'm not saying he makes the beats from scratch but he certainly puts it all together by the end
and everything Dre has had his hand in up to maybe 2015 or so was either classic or dope
not feeling his production on Missionary but everything has an expiration date
Exactly, plus have you noticed everyone who says Dre stole their beats. stole their lyrics, he has no talent, etc...they all come back to work with him again? So what's the deal? Were they lying? Does Dre really steal your beats and lyrics and you don't care now and you go back to him so he can steal from you again? What kind of person does that make you?
Examples:
Sam Sneed
RBX
DOC
J-Flexx
DJ Quik
Crooked I
The list goes on and on.....
Dre been stealing beats for 40 plus years and somehow he keeps finding suckers to steal from??....FOR 40 YEARS! Give me a break.
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people are confused with making a beat and producing. that's how "stealing beats" romour begins.
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Everytime dre is mentioned the "beat maker vs producer' discussion comes up..
Only dre. Never othets.
Yall are sayin dre is rick rubin (still no odea whst the man exactly does)
dre is quincy jones
a lot of the greatest producers use a team of musicians and session players they can orchestrate to achieve their vision.. duno where u got "only dre" from
quik gets praised for being hands on but he did the exact same thing throughout his career with robert bacon, g-one, stan the guitar man etc
timbaland is considered a goat but was constantly getting dissed by idiots for having a team on musicians he utilized regularly
only people who don't understand production diss dre
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Everytime dre is mentioned the "beat maker vs producer' discussion comes up..
Only dre. Never othets.
Yall are sayin dre is rick rubin (still no odea whst the man exactly does)
since early 2000s timbaland did the same thing with scott storch, danja and his other session players.
same as rick rubin. do you know how he produced "walk on water" by eminem?
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since early 2000s timbaland did the same thing with scott storch, danja and his other session players.
same as rick rubin. do you know how he produced "walk on water" by eminem?
no
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no
as i heard in an interview (rubin or skyler im not sure) skyler brings the song and chorus. em writes his lyrics and asks rubin to add drums to skyler's piano and produce the song. rubin says "no drums", it feels better this way, just piano and you. thats how the song structure has been decided and produced. sometimes even the vision is producing.
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as i heard in an interview (rubin or skyler im not sure) skyler brings the song and chorus. em writes his lyrics and asks rubin to add drums to skyler's piano and produce the song. rubin says "no drums", it feels better this way, just piano and you. thats how the song structure has been decided and produced. sometimes even the vision is producing.
that song sucks .. shoulda added drums lol