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Title: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Bossplaya369 on May 08, 2025, 08:43:29 PM
(https://images.genius.com/a1744921f79428f44d6a03fcdb0fe46c.396x396x1.jpg)

1      Secret Plan   5:33
2      Endonesia   5:05
3      Natural Born Killaz   4:55
4      Greed   4:34
5      Californa Luv   5:09
6      Gimmie 50 Ft   11:47
7      Can’t C Us   5:31
8      Komurshell   1:22
9      Grand Finale II   5:42
10      Fuck Wit Dre Day II   4:53
11      Da Hereafta   5:06
                (Bonus Track)   
12      Natural Born Killaz (Remix)

Whaddat?
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: killagee on May 09, 2025, 05:05:15 AM
interesting, who is the source?
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Bossplaya369 on May 09, 2025, 06:00:23 AM
interesting, who is the source?

What you mean?

2)Dr. Dre and Ice Cube-Helter Skelter
Now this album was palpably close to actually coming out. They teased the album on Snoops "Doggystyle" album and were even selling T-Shirts to hype the album up.

These two got together to make this project and they began hyping it up with not only shirts and ads, they put out this classic track on the Murder Was The Case short film soundtrack

For whatever reason, this album never came out. Dre left Death Row in 96 to focus on Aftermath, while Cube got deeper into his career as an actor. In an interview you can find online, Cube blames Eminems explosion for why Dre couldn't focus on the album, but that makes little sense since Eminem wasn't around during the Death Row/1994 days. The D.O.C, great West Coast rapper and friend of Dre; also creator of the Death Row label name, got mad at Dre for not paying him for ghostwriting for him during his time at Death Row. So he left Death Row and released his own Helter Skelter album in 1996, keeping the name to spite Dre. He even took a lot of the lyrics he had wrote for Dre and that album. Though the album was largely ignored, its about as close as we'll get to ever actually having the project.


Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: killagee on May 09, 2025, 06:48:01 AM
The source for tracklist & cover? Has released any track? I wish some day to released the whole album
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Bossplaya369 on May 09, 2025, 07:13:27 AM
The source for tracklist & cover? Has released any track? I wish some day to released the whole album

Discogs. Cant find the link atm.
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: killagee on May 09, 2025, 09:46:29 AM
i find only this
https://genius.com/albums/Dr-dre-and-ice-cube/Heltah-skeltah
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Sccit on May 11, 2025, 12:03:11 AM
lol super fake
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: shmosh on May 11, 2025, 06:52:29 AM
Obviously the cover is fake as it was binned long before a cover would've been made. But some of these track titles are legit, they come from the Death Row inventory of the recordings.

Secret Plan is from the D.O.C. album, but the instrumental he used was originally from the project, as I assume were the lyrics as he'd written them. Da Hearafter is also from the D.O.C. album and who knows if there's a Dre/Cube version. The lyrics were probably originally written for it.

Endonesia is 100% real, but unleaked, the instrumental leaked a few years ago. Gimme 50 ft is a real title, but unleaked and Can't C Us is the OG version of the 2Pac track, before the Dogg Pound recorde their version. Again, unleaked.

The rest, other than Natural Born Killers and California Love (which wasn't ever intended for that album, it was recorded for the second Dre DR album), are fake.
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Sccit on May 11, 2025, 08:17:54 AM
can't c us never had all those artists together LOL
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: HighEyeCue on May 11, 2025, 01:34:35 PM
would have been a really dope project had it ever been finished
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: thegooddoc on May 11, 2025, 08:39:29 PM
can't c us never had all those artists together LOL

It was originally a Dogg Pound song that was given to 2Pac for All Eyez on Me. I doubt that Cube was ever on it.
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Bossplaya369 on May 11, 2025, 10:38:24 PM
It was originally a Dogg Pound song that was given to 2Pac for All Eyez on Me. I doubt that Cube was ever on it.

Its said there also a Cube Dre version

Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: HighEyeCue on May 12, 2025, 04:05:14 AM
Its said there also a Cube Dre version


It was originally a Dogg Pound song that was given to 2Pac for All Eyez on Me. I doubt that Cube was ever on it.

this is one of the articles that stated that the instrumental was intended for Helter Skelter

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/390289-what-happened-to-dr-dre-and-ice-cubes-helter-skelter-album-news

Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Bossplaya369 on May 12, 2025, 05:23:20 AM
this is one of the articles that stated that the instrumental was intended for Helter Skelter

https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/390289-what-happened-to-dr-dre-and-ice-cubes-helter-skelter-album-news

One of
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Sccit on May 12, 2025, 12:49:32 PM
yes

it was for helter skelter

before dogg pound got it

and pac got it last

but it was never a track wit all of em on there lol
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on May 13, 2025, 07:13:07 AM
(https://images.genius.com/a1744921f79428f44d6a03fcdb0fe46c.396x396x1.jpg)

1      Secret Plan   5:33
2      Endonesia   5:05
3      Natural Born Killaz   4:55
4      Greed   4:34
5      Californa Luv   5:09
6      Gimmie 50 Ft   11:47
7      Can’t C Us   5:31
8      Komurshell   1:22
9      Grand Finale II   5:42
10      Fuck Wit Dre Day II   4:53
11      Da Hereafta   5:06
                (Bonus Track)   
12      Natural Born Killaz (Remix)

Whaddat?

A fake, fan made bootleg
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: Bossplaya369 on May 13, 2025, 08:08:07 AM
Wheres death rows first signee female MC Mizz Allen?
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: HighEyeCue on May 13, 2025, 08:43:57 AM
yes

it was for helter skelter

before dogg pound got it

and pac got it last

but it was never a track wit all of em on there lol

that would have been one crazy track :damn:
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: shmosh on May 13, 2025, 11:51:47 AM
It was originally a Dogg Pound song that was given to 2Pac for All Eyez on Me. I doubt that Cube was ever on it.

Actually it was originally made for Doggystyle (as confirmed by Nanci Fletcher) but who knows if Snoop recorded on it.

It was then used for Helter Skelter (confirmed a Dre/Cube version exists in the DR inventory)

Then the Dogg Pound used it for Dogg Food and it was scrapped.

Lastly 2Pac got it
Title: Re: Heltah Skeltah?
Post by: BJV on May 14, 2025, 05:22:01 PM
yes

it was for helter skelter

before dogg pound got it

and pac got it last

but it was never a track wit all of em on there lol

They had it recorded with George Clinton singing can’t see me so the title can’t see us makes no sense here.