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Title: Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 26, 2003, 03:37:20 AM
I can't believe you would even ask such a question!! "Why is the gangsta lifestyle so great anyway"!! I couldn't believe it when I saw it. Over 100 years of slavery, rape, brutality and disrespect to black people and having to form a gang to survive in the streets full of dangerous white gangs such as the police and politicians, and you probably dont know nothing about the foundation or history of black street gangs. I don't mean to disrepect you in any way and a lot of people here don't know the topic.
I think this needs to be put straight forward for everyone to understand. The media capatilise on this by glorifying the lies and making it look like the hood is some place where blacks kill one another and are vicious animals but really don't look into the roots. People like so called "Gangsta Rappers" such as Snoop and Tray want to catch the attention and glorify gun violence to sell to the mass white majority who on't know the real issues in the hood, only hear what they see in the news and media.
I think we people here should think before we post. No disrepect intended and sorry for anyone who feels insulted in any way. I apologise
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: 7even on May 26, 2003, 03:38:41 AM
sup damon X
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 26, 2003, 03:52:39 AM
Excuse me, but me Damon X? I am not judging ones character by denying or accepting the role of another but to be honest in saying that I am not a certain individual is merly due to truth and has nothing to do with decline in esteem or disregard for another human beings emotions for accepting his name but to answer

No I am not the name to which you replyed.
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 26, 2003, 03:52:46 AM
scottish gangsta huh
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 26, 2003, 03:59:57 AM
Sorry but checking the IP, and where I stay have nothing to do with being a gangster and I never once claimed to be a gangster. I am explaining history and teaching and if you had read my old site you would know about me and who I am (no, not Bobby Seale) and will understand me a bit better.

But I feel whoever is in charge of these boards should put up a post to post about the topic, so people will know. I hate to see people being disrespected. We are in a time now where we do not need this sort of behaviour
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 26, 2003, 04:03:07 AM
I never checked your IP... I had your address before u even signed up to WCC... funny huh?

XX Lothian Court, Glenrothes, Fife, KY6 1LZ, United Kingdom
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on May 26, 2003, 06:11:29 AM
i didn't disrespect in any way. just asked a simple qestion. and i got answers
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: asdasda on May 26, 2003, 06:54:09 AM
Man you gave a good explanation about why you got Gangs in the USA.
BUT.. I think the question "Why is the gangsta lifestyle so great anyway" was meant in a different way. I mean i think he was referring to the fact that everybody, at least once in a lifetime, dreamed about being a real G. Yeah, a real classic italian G, like Corleone, Gotti, Luciano, etc. Or a Crip. Or a Blood. And obviously, if you poor and you have to survive, you dont dream about being like Tray Deee. You dream to be a lawyer, a doctor, a rich guy, the boy of J-Lo, etc.

I think he was referring to us "european white guys".
In particular to the ones who writes in forums like they in a gang, who dress blue like Daz, who c-walks like WC, who speaks like MC Ren, etc. (and no, i dont do it. eheheh). All those stupid kids who thinks Gangsta is good! Who thinks it's a good thing, a thing to be proud of.

I'm sure he wasnt talking about black men. It's obvious that you are trapped in a ghetto, and you cant really choose 90% of the times. So he wasnt referring to the ones who have no choices, but to us europeans (like me, like Nima).

Trust me there are so many stupid kids who dreams to be a real G with a gun in their hand...

So it was totally a different question.
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 26, 2003, 08:48:12 AM
Man you gave a good explanation about why you got Gangs in the USA.
BUT.. I think the question "Why is the gangsta lifestyle so great anyway" was meant in a different way. I mean i think he was referring to the fact that everybody, at least once in a lifetime, dreamed about being a real G. Yeah, a real classic italian G, like Corleone, Gotti, Luciano, etc. Or a Crip. Or a Blood. And obviously, if you poor and you have to survive, you dont dream about being like Tray Deee. You dream to be a lawyer, a doctor, a rich guy, the boy of J-Lo, etc.

I think he was referring to us "european white guys".
In particular to the ones who writes in forums like they in a gang, who dress blue like Daz, who c-walks like WC, who speaks like MC Ren, etc. (and no, i dont do it. eheheh). All those stupid kids who thinks Gangsta is good! Who thinks it's a good thing, a thing to be proud of.

I'm sure he wasnt talking about black men. It's obvious that you are trapped in a ghetto, and you cant really choose 90% of the times. So he wasnt referring to the ones who have no choices, but to us europeans (like me, like Nima).

Trust me there are so many stupid kids who dreams to be a real G with a gun in their hand...

So it was totally a different question.


Ok, I can see your point. I am black but I do not talk like MC Ren. But to answer the question (apologies to Nima) the gangsta lifestyle aint great, having to struggle in any case for choices just to survive and live right is never great. I like the united Kingdom, although the gangs here have nothing to do with politics or retailiation and is merly to do with $$$, you see I like both US and UK and can never choose one over the other although UK is my slighty favourite choice due to living most of my adult life here. So to Overseer (who has my address) if you have my street number and zip code then why don't you come by for a beer  :-*
To answer your question, yes very funny indeed and to question how someone like you got my address? when in fact the only person who should have it is the administrator who runs the board.
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 26, 2003, 09:53:38 AM
eh? I am the person that runs/owns this board... and in fact... the board has zero to do with how i got it...
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: DaSchizophrenic1 on May 26, 2003, 10:28:20 AM
Does his e-mail show his name when he sends out emails? Then you typed his name in one of the "people search white pages"?  :D
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 26, 2003, 10:38:08 AM
hahah.. no...
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 26, 2003, 11:11:41 AM
1st of all, U took tha context of Nima's question tha wrong way....

And please don't come in here making black people tha only victims....Tha hood aint all black people and gangs aint stricly blacks....As a matter of fact, there are more Latin gangs out here than Stricly Black gangs....

Also, U live in Europe, so my understanding is U got yur lil history from books or people who been thru it, I bet Nima has talked more muthafucaz than been thru it than U anyway....U need 2 come and experience tha struggle at 1st hand before puttin someone else down like that 4 asking a question....


Oh yea, lmao @ Sccit....








Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Efrain on May 26, 2003, 11:20:58 AM
Over 100 years of slavery, rape, brutality and disrespect to black people and having to form a gang to survive in the streets full of dangerous white gangs such as the police and politicians,


lmao
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 26, 2003, 11:24:12 AM
4 real ^^^ LMAO......I didn't even see that......

This muthafuca......









Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: mrtonguetwista on May 26, 2003, 01:19:27 PM
~Kumbya My Lord...Kumbya~ ;D
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on May 26, 2003, 01:24:24 PM
Excuse me, but me Damon X? I am not judging ones character by denying or accepting the role of another but to be honest in saying that I am not a certain individual is merly due to truth and has nothing to do with decline in esteem or disregard for another human beings emotions for accepting his name but to answer

No I am not the name to which you replyed.

Does anyone else know what the fuck he is talking about here?
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 01:27:28 AM
Also, U live in Europe, so my understanding is U got yur lil history from books, I bet Nima has talked more muthafucaz than been thru it than U anyway....U need 2 come and experience tha struggle at 1st hand before puttin someone else down like that 4 asking a question....

Yeh I live in Europe now. So it's impossible I've lived anywhere else right!!! You people need to realise that experience comes from lessons and complications due for seeking the comfort of life. And I'll argue to anyone that think La's biggest gangs are bloods and crips. There are hundreds of gangs there.

And talking about books, ever heard dont judge? To moderate ones character to what ambition or aspiration he has in life isn't one to be judges and lacked of his past experience to what he, in actuality, has knowlegable understanding for.

I think you should know people before they come on here. I can spot the real ones. I don't front coming on here screaming G'Leaf baby. I don't front nor ashamed of past or present residence. I love Europe in the United Kingdom.
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: OpTiCaL on May 27, 2003, 02:48:34 AM
To answer your question, yes very funny indeed and to question how someone like you got my address? when in fact the only person who should have it is the administrator who runs the board....



eh? I am the person that runs/owns this board... and in fact... the board has zero to do with how i got it...



LMAO at this...dont think we should be getting so hett up about such a topic...nima was asking a rhetorical question to gauge peoples ideas n opinions....

...which is what this board is for...if you see something you dont like try to ignore it...

...(unless its blatently breaking the rules ie racism etc)

Noone is trying to battle with you bobby so just kick back n chill  8)

If you really wanna impart some nkowledge please do so...but dont get on the defensive  (or offensive for that matter) when there is no need.

Pz

Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 02:56:47 AM
No, no I can get defnesive and argue a point. Doesn't mean I'll hate you or post negaitivity about you in any way. I feel a lot of people have that weakness about them where they can't discuss or debate without hate, and that's a bad quality to have in life and I say quality because it's a tattoo scarred from emotions that make you decide and act how you do just as an encouraged talent to play the keyboard or guitar.

I can sit back and chill  8)
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: OpTiCaL on May 27, 2003, 03:01:34 AM
Dont worry about it mate....

...wasnt meaning it in the way you took it...

...i encouraged a point to be made....i also said no need to get defensive, chances are lots will agree with you...why do you have to argue a point when noone is argueing....they just all making their points as well


simple...now please dont start rowing over semantics.

peace
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 03:21:22 AM
Nope. There is no problems. Think it is good sometimes for people to argue. It challenges ones mind for a open statement most personal and trustworthy to that person. Good to see.

But no hate for no one here. Wait a minute, I almost forgot . To That person who got my address  :-* look up some information on the lothian court circuit and you might learn a little something about me. If not just drop by and have good ol' cup of soads water. To your surprise someone else might live here too!!
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: OpTiCaL on May 27, 2003, 04:36:22 AM
Btw "that person who has your address" is the guy running this board...

...Overseer
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 27, 2003, 04:49:49 AM
dont stress about it... just my host got a little upset about being hacked.. nahmean?
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: 7even on May 27, 2003, 04:52:02 AM
stop trying to sound intelligent that annoys me like fuck
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 05:02:12 AM
dont stress about it... just my host got a little upset about being hacked.. nahmean?

That was not me!

And to 7even. I am intelignaant  ;D
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: 7even on May 27, 2003, 05:04:35 AM
yea but why showin of?

Im to no doubt but I dont write like you just to prove it.

the main intention  of you should be everyone  is able to understand you.

and I have problems since I just learned english at school
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 27, 2003, 05:05:17 AM
dont stress about it... just my host got a little upset about being hacked.. nahmean?

That was not me!


I know it wasnt you now! thats why I said dont stress.. aint shit happenin with you.
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 05:09:17 AM
Really? Who was it then! I might know a few responsible for it, but who knows? What punishment have you got in store. I suggest you use the same method to dig up the address(s) of those responsible then go to their house and demand a confession and an apology
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 27, 2003, 05:14:58 AM
eh? what did mickey say when u asked him.. u said u'd ask him why he was posting up stuff about it on your site.
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 05:25:07 AM
Said that it wasn't him, he was just messing around and never knew where that picture came from. I don't always post everything up. I only post up the information from him that is e-mailed to me
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 27, 2003, 06:15:19 AM
ok.. well its all good.. they havent asked for more info.. that picture is a bit worrying though... its got more information than you may realise in it. (look at the pages open in internet explorer.. one is the forum, one is my host)

my host has seen it.. they havent asked for more info, i doubt they will now. so its all in the past.

btw.. about what this topic is really about..

i think antonio  (err. dpgcitalia.. or whatever name it is this week) summed it up best.. it depends on how you interpret the question. i took it as.. why do people try and glorify it, and why do people try and fake to be like it?

for example..  this site.. igangsta.com is and has been always meant to be an oxymoron... its a piss take at those pretending/claiming to be gangsta's on the internet.... igangsta = internet gangsta = an impossibility... those who have been around for the 3 or so years i've been operating from here (since before the forum when i had a news site here for one) know have i used to is a platform to do my part help expose fakes/phoneys (read: narrator / chronic overload.. what some call 'german cyber crips' etc) and do my own thing... everyone everwhere knows i'm a white brit.

This forum is my way of connecting to the music i enjoy, sharing what I know and learning myself... thats it..  anyways.. this site is moving to dubcc.com sometime this year, since the forum has overtaken the other aspects of the site from the original vision i had.
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 07:25:22 AM
I never checked your IP... I had your address before u even signed up to WCC... funny huh?

XX Lothian Court, Glenrothes, Fife, KY6 1LZ, United Kingdom

Yes I know how you were able to get my address now. Remember I am smarter than you think. I remember histroy quite well
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 07:28:07 AM
Also do you perform boxing or have boxing as a hobby. Perosnal question but is important to find out
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 27, 2003, 07:36:09 AM
no i dont... i've never claimed to be a 'tough guy'.. I just asked around since my host was asking who hacked the site... now know it wasnt you, and they havent asked for anything since I showed them the page with what mickey had said on it.. they said they thought they knew who it was before i got back to them anyway.. but i dont know whether thats related to the first or second time.

whats the big deal? why u getting all defensive?
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: I`m Wayne Brady bitch! on May 27, 2003, 08:24:48 AM
Bobby Seale,you can eat a dick for all I care...
I dont know you,but from reading your post you seem like a serious dickhead.Fuck you  ;)
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 08:26:11 AM
I can remember purchasing some old training gloves off ebay and I thought that you were probably the person who sold them which is why I asked if you liked boxing!! Sorry, I suppose you took it as a challenge ro insult. I should have explained myself a bit better. Where does the name spike come into this. I've heard Mick speak of this character before. I believe he lives in a place called "Soria" wherever that is? I do not teach Geography, no matter how smart I may be  ;D but I know a little bit more, some I would rather not discuss openly on a site for everyone to view.  
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 27, 2003, 08:30:59 AM
ok u got a pm.. or will be when i get to doing it...
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Devon (BP) on May 27, 2003, 08:39:08 AM
Bobby Seale,you can eat a dick for all I care...
I dont know you,but from reading your post you seem like a serious dickhead.Fuck you  ;)

Exactly. From what you read. Read. You do not know me in 3D therefore can't judge. People said the same thing about Mohammed Ali because of how he presented himself and I highlight the word 'Presented'. I think you must be a naive yet innocent person. I do not hate you. You are free to express and reveal how you feel about me at any time. I respect honesty, therefore repect you without having uttered a word of hate or disrespect. That is why we fail  
Title: Re:Nima! Why did you disrespect?
Post by: Don Seer on May 27, 2003, 08:40:31 AM
i dont think this is going anywhere else now... *locking*