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Title: Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 27, 2003, 01:00:43 PM
Matrix was a pretty good movie... but considering that the storyline is completly STOLEN i cant give it any credit...

Matrix 2 had a bad storyline. maby because because there were no book named Matrix2 to steal the plot from.... the martial art scenes were HORRIBLE... enybody who've... and i can understand that, cuz Reeves is no martial artist. The only combinations he were using were punches and lock kicks. Since im a martial art fan (seen every bruce lee, jet li, jackie chan ... ... movies), i couldt appreciate the low ammount of skills that were shown in the movie. check any jet li movie, that man does it 50 times better with no effects.  

the only thing i could appreciate in matrix 2 was the 3d modulation.
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on May 27, 2003, 01:16:39 PM
martix i for the story

matrix 2 for action
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: 7even on May 27, 2003, 01:56:42 PM
where is the story stolen from?

matrix was a NEW thang. every lousy effect was SPECIAL UNIQUE and AMAZING.

matrix 2 was full of effects but.. well... they annoy after a time.

Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 27, 2003, 02:21:55 PM
where is the story stolen from?

matrix was a NEW thang. every lousy effect was SPECIAL UNIQUE and AMAZING.

matrix 2 was full of effects but.. well... they annoy after a time.



the whole storyline in matrix is stolen
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: bez on May 27, 2003, 03:52:28 PM
Matrix was a pretty good movie... but considering that the storyline is completly STOLEN i cant give it any credit...

Matrix 2 had a bad storyline. maby because because there were no book named Matrix2 to steal the plot from.... the martial art scenes were HORRIBLE... enybody who've... and i can understand that, cuz Reeves is no martial artist. The only combinations he were using were punches and lock kicks. Since im a martial art fan (seen every bruce lee, jet li, jackie chan ... ... movies), i couldt appreciate the low ammount of skills that were shown in the movie. check any jet li movie, that man does it 50 times better with no effects.  

the only thing i could appreciate in matrix 2 was the 3d modulation.


watch the film again man and I suggest that you actually watch it.  The fight scenes where amazing, I have seen all of Jackie chans films and shit but I still appreciated the fight scenes in this film.  You wanna see bruce lee go and watch enter the dragon, you wanna see Chan go watch Rush hour you wanna see Jet go and watch a  jet movie.  Just because it wasn't the stuff you where use to watching doesn't mean that you shouldent of enjoyed the fight scenes.  Yes you could tell that some of em where fake and yes you could sit there and go he could never do that, but thats the point of course he could never do that.  You think Keanu can fly? lol.  

The film was alway set out to be different from the rest, to set something totally new as like THE MATRIX and for me it did.  Everything about the film was amazing and just because you can't appreciate the storyline because it was to complex for you doesn't mean you should try and act as if the movie sucked for everyone.  Basically because you didnt get the film, understand, and enjoy it doesnt mean everyone else in the world did.

Everything about the film was so unique and original.  Go and watch it again bud and I suggest this time that you dont fall asleep in your popcorn.
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: ·SiNiStEr· on May 27, 2003, 03:54:41 PM
no..


dunno what u been smokin but the matrix has the most unique storyline ever
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 27, 2003, 04:50:27 PM
no..


dunno what u been smokin but the matrix has the most unique storyline ever

urban legends had an "unike storyline"... still its oe of the biggest flops ever.... so your point is??
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: bez on May 27, 2003, 05:30:21 PM
no..


dunno what u been smokin but the matrix has the most unique storyline ever

urban legends had an "unike storyline"... still its oe of the biggest flops ever.... so your point is??

his point is the matrix didnt flop so whats your point?
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 27, 2003, 05:48:35 PM
no..


dunno what u been smokin but the matrix has the most unique storyline ever

urban legends had an "unike storyline"... still its oe of the biggest flops ever.... so your point is??

his point is the matrix didnt flop so whats your point?

my point is that a movie is not DOPE only cuz it got a "unike and/or complex storyline"....

i would give "matrix 2" 3.5-3.9 outta 5

its good... but far from dope
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: elneckio on May 28, 2003, 10:04:32 AM
no..


dunno what u been smokin but the matrix has the most unique storyline ever

I heard it was taken from a manga comic, not sure which one though
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: bez on May 28, 2003, 01:25:18 PM
it was dope
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Immortal on May 28, 2003, 01:30:48 PM
ibo, the movie was dope and intellectually philosophical.

end of story
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 28, 2003, 02:32:38 PM
ibo, the movie was dope and intellectually philosophical.

end of story

like i said.. urban legend is is also "intellectually philosophical" ...
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: bez on May 28, 2003, 04:13:09 PM
ibo, the movie was dope and intellectually philosophical.

end of story

like i said.. urban legend is is also "intellectually philosophical" ...

yes but as you said it flopped.
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 28, 2003, 04:29:24 PM
ibo, the movie was dope and intellectually philosophical.

end of story

like i said.. urban legend is is also "intellectually philosophical" ...

yes but as you said it flopped.
exactly... being complex doest mean a shit
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: The Watcher on May 28, 2003, 07:55:59 PM
where did they steal the storyline from? name, title etc..
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Reef on June 02, 2003, 09:20:25 AM
The only combinations he were using were punches and lock kicks. Since im a martial art fan (seen every bruce lee, jet li, jackie chan ... ... movies), i couldt appreciate the low ammount of skills that were shown in the movie. check any jet li movie, that man does it 50 times better with no effects.  

I feel you there. Being a martial artist myself i was pretty disapointed with the lack of variation that Reeves used. I understand the plot, and that gives room for all the unrealistic moves and flips. But from a martial arts point of view i have to agree the fight scences were disapointing.

Another problem was that the fight scenes. (Especally the one after Neo met the oricle) were pretty long, and they did get boring a repetitive.

The storyline was a good continuation from the first martix, but i think that the first movie had a better storyline. It maybe beacuse it was stolen, but i wasnt aware of that fact.

Overall i rate the two movies like this

Martix - 8/10
Martix Reloaded - 7/10

Both good moves with god storylines, i just dont think anyone can class these movies as classics.
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: bez on June 02, 2003, 10:07:25 AM
The only combinations he were using were punches and lock kicks. Since im a martial art fan (seen every bruce lee, jet li, jackie chan ... ... movies), i couldt appreciate the low ammount of skills that were shown in the movie. check any jet li movie, that man does it 50 times better with no effects.  

I feel you there. Being a martial artist myself i was pretty disapointed with the lack of variation that Reeves used. I understand the plot, and that gives room for all the unrealistic moves and flips. But from a martial arts point of view i have to agree the fight scences were disapointing.

Another problem was that the fight scenes. (Especally the one after Neo met the oricle) were pretty long, and they did get boring a repetitive.

The storyline was a good continuation from the first martix, but i think that the first movie had a better storyline. It maybe beacuse it was stolen, but i wasnt aware of that fact.

Overall i rate the two movies like this

Martix - 8/10
Martix Reloaded - 7/10

Both good moves with god storylines, i just dont think anyone can class these movies as classics.

I cant understand how n e body thought the fight scenes where long and boring.  The same people who are saying that will be the smae people who will be pissed off if there is 1 3 minute fight scene in revolutions.  
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Reef on June 02, 2003, 10:16:42 AM
The only combinations he were using were punches and lock kicks. Since im a martial art fan (seen every bruce lee, jet li, jackie chan ... ... movies), i couldt appreciate the low ammount of skills that were shown in the movie. check any jet li movie, that man does it 50 times better with no effects.  

I feel you there. Being a martial artist myself i was pretty disapointed with the lack of variation that Reeves used. I understand the plot, and that gives room for all the unrealistic moves and flips. But from a martial arts point of view i have to agree the fight scences were disapointing.

Another problem was that the fight scenes. (Especally the one after Neo met the oricle) were pretty long, and they did get boring a repetitive.

The storyline was a good continuation from the first martix, but i think that the first movie had a better storyline. It maybe beacuse it was stolen, but i wasnt aware of that fact.

Overall i rate the two movies like this

Martix - 8/10
Martix Reloaded - 7/10

Both good moves with god storylines, i just dont think anyone can class these movies as classics.

I cant understand how n e body thought the fight scenes where long and boring.  The same people who are saying that will be the smae people who will be pissed off if there is 1 3 minute fight scene in revolutions.  

You mis-interpreted wot i said. The fight scences were long and boring due to lack of variation.. and i can really only say that the one fight scene was a bit long and that was the one when he was attacked by all the agents. I will definatly see revolutions... Like i said.. good movie.. Fight scenes need more variation.. maybe i wasnt clear when i mentioned somethin like that
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Third AntiChrist on June 02, 2003, 04:41:25 PM
lol@Matrix 2 dying at the theatres  ;D

sucky ass movie


Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: ·SiNiStEr· on June 02, 2003, 08:32:09 PM
no point in arguing..

as for mainstream, however, the matrix has a much much different storyline than any other movies released wit this much hype.

gawdamn i was surprised how much bruce almighty kicked its ass though.. fuck
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Black_Smoke on June 02, 2003, 09:07:36 PM
martix i for the story

matrix 2 for action
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Reef on June 03, 2003, 03:04:00 AM
lol@Matrix 2 dying at the theatres  ;D


I have no idea how you figure that... The theatre was packed when i went, and that was on sunday evening.
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: HHH on June 03, 2003, 03:14:36 AM
i went to see it last night, again the cinema was packed but we paid extra and got the big armchair type seats !! lol  ;D

....and that was a nice ducati 996 trinity was riding !!  8)
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Maestro Minded on June 03, 2003, 05:17:14 AM
lol@Matrix 2 dying at the theatres  ;D


I have no idea how you figure that... The theatre was packed when i went, and that was on sunday evening.

http://movies.go.com/boxoffice/index.html
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Reef on June 03, 2003, 11:31:36 AM
lol@Matrix 2 dying at the theatres  ;D


I have no idea how you figure that... The theatre was packed when i went, and that was on sunday evening.

http://movies.go.com/boxoffice/index.html

*retracts statement*
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Immortal on June 03, 2003, 11:40:31 AM
Ibo, your statement makes little sense. Are you trying to support the MAtrix Reloaded???

lol

When I saw the money it made, it schocked me.

The Matrix Reloaded  Weekend Gross= $15,687,241  Total Gross= $232,701,046

And its still in it's 3rd week...1st week it crossed 135 million.

Matrix 2 is an awesome film.
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: white Boy on June 03, 2003, 12:14:22 PM
just because of the money, doesnt mean its awesome, wen i first saw it, i like the graphics, but the talking parts were beat, and it had a weak plot, the first one was a lot beter in the plot, but the 2nd had beter effects, i think in the 2nd, they just did all crazy stunts and visual effects, and forgot to write a decent plot, X2 is def better.
matrix 9/10
matrix reloaded 6.5/10
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: caTASHtrophe on June 04, 2003, 08:51:46 AM
Matrix 1 for Story
Matrix 2 for Action

Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: bez on June 04, 2003, 10:25:40 AM
1st film for story and action
2nd film for story and action

both films where the same IMO
Title: Re:Compararing Matrix - Matrix 2
Post by: Blood Rain on June 08, 2003, 08:02:58 PM
1st film for story and action
2nd film for story and action

both films where the same IMO

  i have to agree the movies were kinda th same but they were aight