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Title: Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: DeOzyris on May 30, 2003, 04:36:08 PM
Former member of The Outlawz "Fatal Hussein" recenlty spoke to MTV, ther wrote an article on there site concerning Fatal & Ja's diss towards Eminem/50Cent/Aftermath etc... check the article below...
Ja Rule's proposed six months away from the music biz has lasted a whole two weeks.

Murder Inc.'s biggest record seller resurfaced over the weekend via the mixtape circuit with a freestyle called "The Wrap," which features Tupac's one-time Outlawz clique member Fatal Hussein. No, the title isn't paying homage to one of your favorite MTV shows — it's referring to what Rule perceives to be the status of his foes' careers.
While Ja's wrath is contained to just one freestyle verse, the Queens native manages to once again throw a few barbs at 50 Cent, Dr. Dre and Busta Rhymes over the instrumental for Mobb Deep's "The Learning (Burn)." Rule also addresses a physical altercation between members of the Inc. and D12's Proof at a Miami strip club a few weeks ago and the accusation that federal agents are investigating his record company for laundering drug money.

"Plus the feds want us bad for cleaning cash," raps Ja, who orders 50 to "pull your skirt down" toward the end of the record. "But what cash is we cleansing?" he continues. "It's all about the Benjamins, what?/ If it's dirty then we rinsing it off."
Earlier this month in Miami, Murder Inc.'s head honcho, Irv Gotti, told MTV News that Ja was taking a six-month hiatus, explaining that after releasing a solo album every year since 1999 and becoming a fixture on radio and video airwaves, the fans may have been getting a little tired of Rule and needed a break. Gotti also revealed plans for a Rule double LP sometime in 2004 (see "Ja Rule To Give Fans A Break From His Music"). There is no further word on the status of that project.

In addition to working with the Outlawz, Fatal Hussein rapped alongside Tupac on various projects including All Eyez on Me before dropping his solo debut, In the Line of Fire, in 1998 and going to jail in 1999. A free man for the past year and a half, Fatal is now signed to Rap-A-Lot Records and says that a joint venture of sorts is being brokered between Gotti and Rap-A-Lot CEO J. Prince to put out his next LP.

"We're doing this little deal with J. and Irv — they talking about a deal, I don't know how it's going down," Fatal said last month inside Black Child's Queens, New York, recording studio. "Before I got locked up in '99, Ja was my man. We used to hook up in the 'hood, I used to come to his shows. We've always been cool. When I came home we was speaking through a mutual friend. I knew all I had to do was see my dog and it was going to be back on."

Fatal also said that he was affronted when 50 Cent used Pac's vocals on "The Realest Killas," incorporating some of his former mentor's rhyme flows and lyrics on the "Hail Mary" freestyle (see "50 Cent Disses Ja Rule On Tupac Joint; New Biggie Material On The Horizon").

"I feel it's a problem, playing with his lyrics like that," Fatal said of "The Realest Killas." "That needs to be addressed. I remember I heard it [and] they [were] trying to say that [Ja] is trying to sound like Pac when [50 is] dead on him. All you did was take 'Ambitionz Az a Ridah' and play it back, wrote a verse and took it to the lab and said 'I'mma be Pac now' and just try to say all this bullsh-- about Rule.

"I'm one of the Outlawz, so my opinion is going to be real critical," he continued. "That 'Hail Mary' was wack, total trash, no creativity. Why rap over certain stuff? You're not making it any doper. To me, it was a slap in the face to anybody that stood for something that Pac was holding down. It was a slap in the face to say you're repping Tupac. You're listening to his lyrics and putting his lyrics back on over his beats. You're not creating, you're biting. You didn't even know him. It's going to be some action taken. It's going to be some stuff coming out."

"The Wrap" can be found on Big Mike's Year of the Rookie Part 2 mixtape.
"50's 'Hail Mary' was wack, total trash. ... You're biting. You didn't even know him. It's going to be some action taken." — Outlawz member Fatal Hussein - MTV
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 30, 2003, 04:48:47 PM
Fatal is officially a moron.
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Hater Player on May 30, 2003, 04:52:13 PM
fuckin eh
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: DeOzyris on May 30, 2003, 04:57:31 PM
Fatal was good when Pac was alive...but right now he's a bitch!
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on May 30, 2003, 05:20:06 PM
Fatal is officially a moron.
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: quik4life on May 30, 2003, 07:00:53 PM
how is fatal a moron?...he's sooo right...

50 cent keeps telling ja to stop copying 2pac and then they use the Hail Mary beat?...i mean....comon....thats the worst thing you can do to another rapper....is steal their beat, rap over it and make money off of a dead guy....

so its cool when 50 and em do it, but if ja did it, it's wrong...i don't get it...

what's even more funnier is that ja rule took 4 beats from 50 cent...and made more money off of them than 50 cent did...looks like 50 cent just got pimp slapp'd....hahahahha.......

az
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on May 30, 2003, 07:04:33 PM
how is fatal a moron?...he's sooo right...

50 cent keeps telling ja to stop copying 2pac and then they use the Hail Mary beat?...i mean....comon....thats the worst thing you can do to another rapper....is steal their beat, rap over it and make money off of a dead guy....

so its cool when 50 and em do it, but if ja did it, it's wrong...i don't get it...

what's even more funnier is that ja rule took 4 beats from 50 cent...and made more money off of them than 50 cent did...looks like 50 cent just got pimp slapp'd....hahahahha.......

az

Isn't Suge Knight making money off of Pac too?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on May 30, 2003, 08:28:26 PM
how is fatal a moron?...he's sooo right...

50 cent keeps telling ja to stop copying 2pac and then they use the Hail Mary beat?...i mean....comon....thats the worst thing you can do to another rapper....is steal their beat, rap over it and make money off of a dead guy....

so its cool when 50 and em do it, but if ja did it, it's wrong...i don't get it...

what's even more funnier is that ja rule took 4 beats from 50 cent...and made more money off of them than 50 cent did...looks like 50 cent just got pimp slapp'd....hahahahha.......

az

u just slapped urself by proving what a fuckin dumbass u are
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hahahahha

how the fuck is 50 makin ANY money of Pac by using his beat on a mixtape?
if they wanted to use Pac to make money or get attention through him they woulda done shit like that on an official album and not just dissed Ja wit it to show him what a what a bitin ass fag he is

as for Fatal.. how much of a bitch can u be.. being down with JA he is not the one to speak on anything anybody ever did to use Pac for anything
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Jome on May 30, 2003, 09:10:13 PM
how is fatal a moron?...he's sooo right...

50 cent keeps telling ja to stop copying 2pac and then they use the Hail Mary beat?...i mean....comon....thats the worst thing you can do to another rapper....is steal their beat, rap over it and make money off of a dead guy....

so its cool when 50 and em do it, but if ja did it, it's wrong...i don't get it...

what's even more funnier is that ja rule took 4 beats from 50 cent...and made more money off of them than 50 cent did...looks like 50 cent just got pimp slapp'd....hahahahha.......

az

u just slapped urself by proving what a fuckin dumbass u are
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hahahahha

how the fuck is 50 makin ANY money of Pac by using his beat on a mixtape?
if they wanted to use Pac to make money or get attention through him they woulda done shit like that on an official album and not just dissed Ja wit it to show him what a what a bitin ass fag he is

as for Fatal.. how much of a bitch can u be.. being down with JA he is not the one to speak on anything anybody ever did to use Pac for anything

Yup.
WCC rulse in favor The Hoe Hopper.

And what I think is REALLY funny, is when people use r'n'b hotshot Ja Rule as a reason to hate on 50 Cent..
Like 50 is the one screaming "Westside" and "Killuminati" in his videos, and not Ja Rule. Not to mention the scene with Irv/Ja redoing the scene where Pac gets shot.


Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Wild_Elmo on May 30, 2003, 09:12:44 PM
50 Cent is garbage.
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 30, 2003, 09:30:59 PM
how is fatal a moron?...he's sooo right...

50 cent keeps telling ja to stop copying 2pac and then they use the Hail Mary beat?...i mean....comon....thats the worst thing you can do to another rapper....is steal their beat, rap over it and make money off of a dead guy....

so its cool when 50 and em do it, but if ja did it, it's wrong...i don't get it...

what's even more funnier is that ja rule took 4 beats from 50 cent...and made more money off of them than 50 cent did...looks like 50 cent just got pimp slapp'd....hahahahha.......

az

You haven't been listening to hip-hop for very long, have you?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: yung-g on May 30, 2003, 10:00:36 PM
i agree with FATAL 100 %
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: BigCain on May 31, 2003, 12:57:40 AM
i agree with FATAL 100 %

Pleez!!  Of course Fatal is going to ride with Ja..  He ain't made no $ since he been out the pen and Ja & Gotti are going to break him off some ends..  If Dre gave his border-line wack-ass a deal, he would be bangin on Murder Inc. instead!!!  Come on people, Think before you type....
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Don Jacob on May 31, 2003, 01:08:02 AM
Fatal fucking sucks dick and so does the outlawz the only one that was ever good in that group was Khadafi
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: 7even on May 31, 2003, 02:59:11 AM
how is fatal a moron?...he's sooo right...

50 cent keeps telling ja to stop copying 2pac and then they use the Hail Mary beat?...i mean....comon....thats the worst thing you can do to another rapper....is steal their beat, rap over it and make money off of a dead guy....

so its cool when 50 and em do it, but if ja did it, it's wrong...i don't get it...

what's even more funnier is that ja rule took 4 beats from 50 cent...and made more money off of them than 50 cent did...looks like 50 cent just got pimp slapp'd....hahahahha.......

az

dont know what to say cuzz everythin is too late for ya dumb ass, just get under a stone and die. please.
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: soufside on May 31, 2003, 04:26:12 AM
50 fanz iz upset in herre an jome y u sayin ja screamin westside? u know y he said westside? because he said "throw ya on down 2 duh west(westside!)" he was sayin he was gonna send 50 2 duh westside
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Reef on May 31, 2003, 05:13:18 AM
Suge & Ja using another person as their mouthpiece by the looks of things.... I aint gonna get stressed wit him.. cause the fact of the matter is.. he can have an opinion like any other cat.. it may be a implanted... but if he 'thinks' 50 is garbage then let him think that... I dont suppose 50 is gonna care... hes makin the bucks..

And to clarify something that Hoe Hopper said... how can you make money off a beat that is used on a mixtape..... You cant.. and Hoe Hopper beat me 2 it lol
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Dj Eskimo on May 31, 2003, 05:14:21 AM
this Murder Inc & Rap A Lot Vs Shady/Aftermath beef is very boring, all the artists are just as bad as the other.
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 31, 2003, 05:22:34 AM
imo 50 cent IS garbage
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: white Boy on May 31, 2003, 06:43:09 AM
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50 cent keeps telling ja to stop copying 2pac and then they use the Hail Mary beat?...i mean....comon....thats the worst thing you can do to another rapper....is steal their beat, rap over it and make money off of a dead guy....

this is my opinion, when ja, in loose change, yells westside and california, thats copying pac and very gay, when em and 50 redid the hail mary , it was SUPPOSED to copy pac, and change the lyrics to bust on ja, have u heard pac lyrics in em's or 50's lyrics

and when ja said, you wana see 2pac, its right here

.... thats sad if he thinks hes anythink near 2pac
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: quik4life on May 31, 2003, 12:41:16 PM
C2Knuckles: i've been listening to hiphop probably a lot longer than you...and even if you listened longer than i do, what does that prove...50 Cent is the biggest commercial rapper out there and you are on his dick...

7even: what the fuck are you talking about...you don't know what to say cause everything is too late....i don't think so....i think you don't know what to say cause you know i'm right....

everyone:

just cause someone screams 'california' or 'westside' in their songs/videos doesn't mean they're always copying pac...ja rule is affliated with suge knight who basically rules LA...if he wants to scream out 'westside', he can...he has more right doing it than 50 cent does thats for sure...

and you CAN make money off of mixtapes...not directly, but indirectly...its promotion...its controversy...and controversy sells...

ja rule's last two insults to 50 cent and em are a lot better than ones 50 cent and em did toward ja rule....50 cent and em haven't killed or shot anybody up...they don't do what they say...they're pussies...em: "i'll get undercover cops to legally pop u"...what a pussy...can't do it himself?...em is trying to be gangsta now and all of a sudden he's chillin with cops...i don't think you can do both....fucken losers....

ja rule isn't all r&b...he makes those vids to make money...all the acne-faced male teens are on eminem's dick....so the only people left to sell music to is the chicks...and thats what ja rule's doin...plus, he still raps hardcore shit, but he just doesn't promote it as much...and his hardcore shit is a lot better than 50 cents...thats for sure...

and everyone here who's on 50 cent's dick...lemme ask you...where were you 2 years ago...how come you weren't biggin' up 50 cent then?...

Gareefa: you can make money off of mixtapes and 50 cent IS garbage...his lyrics sound like they're written by people in high school...read the Amir interview and see what he has to say about 50 cent...cause what Amir says is the truth...

Hoe Hopper: how am i a dumbass....don't take the easy way out...prove to me how i'm wrong...cause everything i've said proves that 50 cent is wack and ja rule deserves more credit than he gets...

if pac were alive today, he woudn't chill with em, 50 and dre...thats for sure...pac would chill with thugs and gangstas...like suge and murder inc...and he would slap 50 cent in the face for using his beat....now most of you would say ja rule used pac.....fine....but jay-z also did it, why isn't he getting any shit about it?....lil kim stole shit from biggie in "the jump off" song...why isn't she getting any shit?....

in "the wrap"....ja rule admits to shooting Proof and getting his revenge on 50 cent....whats even more funny is that 50 cent and em can't and won't do anything about it...except make pussy ass songs about it....hahahhaha.....fucken losers.....

az
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: smartass on May 31, 2003, 12:47:39 PM
lol @ all you cats getting gassed up. fucking herbs. ever heard of something called an opinion?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: NewJack on May 31, 2003, 01:05:27 PM
I still can't believe whut Ja did in the video for Reign. Comparing himself to Big and Pac, that shyt was not cool. He has to get over himself and realize he'll never be half what either of them are. That one video is more than 50 or Em could ever do to 'bite' off Pac. The Hail Mary beat was only used to mock Ja because Ja is the one that's been bitin' off Pac. The only thing I didn't like on Hail Mary was that 50 basically ripped Pac's whole verse from Against All Odds. I do kinda understand he was dissin' Ja, by impersonating Pac and dissin' him at once, but there are better ways to do it than rip a whole verse.

Quik, you put up some good arguments, but the thing is, 50 and Em never tried to rep west side. I don't care if Ja is affiliated with Suge or not, he is from Queens. Also, Pac would not ride with Ja, I can guarantee that. How many people from the east side did Pac run with? Yeah.. that's right.

Lil' Kim and Biggie have known each other most of their lives, they were supposively 'together' for quite awhile as well. She didn't rip crap off him, she has the right to.

And Ja didn't 'admit' to shooting 50 and Proof, he 'claimed' to shoot 50 and Proof. There's a big difference.

I've been listenin' to 50 since before he went commercial. Not long before, but early 2002 I was jus' gettin' into him.
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: white Boy on May 31, 2003, 01:34:25 PM
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I still can't believe whut Ja did in the video for Reign. Comparing himself to Big and Pac, that shyt was not cool. He has to get over himself and realize he'll never be half what either of them are. That one video is more than 50 or Em could ever do to 'bite' off Pac. The Hail Mary beat was only used to mock Ja because Ja is the one that's been bitin' off Pac. The only thing I didn't like on Hail Mary was that 50 basically ripped Pac's whole verse from Against All Odds. I do kinda understand he was dissin' Ja, by impersonating Pac and dissin' him at once, but there are better ways to do it than rip a whole verse.

Quik, you put up some good arguments, but the thing is, 50 and Em never tried to rep west side. I don't care if Ja is affiliated with Suge or not, he is from Queens. Also, Pac would not ride with Ja, I can guarantee that. How many people from the east side did Pac run with? Yeah.. that's right.

Lil' Kim and Biggie have known each other most of their lives, they were supposively 'together' for quite awhile as well. She didn't rip crap off him, she has the right to.

And Ja didn't 'admit' to shooting 50 and Proof, he 'claimed' to shoot 50 and Proof. There's a big difference.

I've been listenin' to 50 since before he went commercial. Not long before, but early 2002 I was jus' gettin' into him.
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: quik4life on May 31, 2003, 02:09:10 PM
what the fuck is the difference between admitting something and claiming something...and ja isn't claiming anything...he's admitting it...str8 up

"Baby can you give it to me
Nah...I'ma give it to you
The same way that we gave it to Proof
The same way that we gave it to Loose [Change]"

this sounds like he's admitting it...and even if he is claiming it (as you say)...don't you find that your beloved 50 cent and eminem are pussies for not doing anything about it?....ja just admitted (or claimed) to have done it...where's their revenge?

i agree with you that pac wouldn't chill with rappers from the east...but there is no more eastcoast/westcoast...ja chills with suge...and pac would chill with suge too cause he's a gangsta...but this area of discussion is stupid cause pac's dead and there is no point in arguing about shit that 'could' or 'would' happen....

so lets stick to facts...lil kim DID bite biggie....i don't care how long she chilled with him...she bit him..."Believe me sweetie, i got enough to feed the needy"....and nobody has a right to bite anything from anybody...especially a dead person....i know ja did it...but why doesn't 50 cent and em get flak for taking hail mary, and jay-z for ripping off pac's lyrics...and jay-z's case is the worst cause he didn't do it bluntly and out in the open....he tried to keep it low-key....

you listened to 50 before he went commercial....damn...i feel sorry for you...you must have an disgusting taste in music....

i want to thank you for admiting i put up a few good arguments...i takes a real man to admit 'defeat'....

smartass: i know everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but everybody argues back and forth to prove that THEIR opinion is RIGHT...and so far, no one has put up good arguments against me....

az
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on May 31, 2003, 04:25:38 PM
C2Knuckles: i've been listening to hiphop probably a lot longer than you...

I doubt it from reading your posts.

50 Cent is the biggest commercial rapper out there and you are on his dick...

Wrong, he's the biggest mainstream rapper out there right now, he's not commercial.  And I'm hardly "on his dick", I've just been trying to point out that this isn't the first remake/cover of a song in the history of hip-hop.

ja rule's last two insults to 50 cent and em are a lot better than ones 50 cent and em did toward ja rule...

You're saying that "Who Shot Ya?" and "The Wrap Up" are better than the material on the Invasion 2 mixtape?  Okay there  ::)  And btw by Fatal's views, Ja is a Notorious B.I.G. biter for that "Who Shot Ya?" song.

...and his hardcore shit is a lot better than 50 cents...thats for sure...

(http://board.rapmusic.com/images/smilies/pukenow.gif)

and everyone here who's on 50 cent's dick...lemme ask you...where were you 2 years ago...how come you weren't biggin' up 50 cent then?...

Some of us were.

if pac were alive today, he woudn't chill with em, 50 and dre...thats for sure...pac would chill with thugs and gangstas...like suge and murder inc...and he would slap 50 cent in the face for using his beat....

That's quite the prediction.

in "the wrap"....ja rule admits to shooting Proof and getting his revenge on 50 cent....whats even more funny is that 50 cent and em can't and won't do anything about it...except make pussy ass songs about it....hahahhaha.....fucken losers.....


 ::)
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on May 31, 2003, 04:55:50 PM
what the fuck is the difference between admitting something and claiming something...and ja isn't claiming anything...he's admitting it...str8 up

the difference is he did not do it.. simple as that my son

50 cent and em haven't killed or shot anybody up...they don't do what they say...they're pussies...em: "i'll get undercover cops to legally pop u"...what a pussy...can't do it himself?...em is trying to be gangsta now and all of a sudden he's chillin with cops...i don't think you can do both....fucken losers....
Ja has been robbed and beat down twice by 50.. he is a joke 50 is not taking him serious.. the guy that shot 50 got shot down himself later by "unknown" people..

that shit Em said was just lyrics he wasn't serious DUH.. how come u don't say 50 is gay cuz he told Ja to suck is dick?

if pac were alive today, he woudn't chill with em, 50 and dre...thats for sure...pac would chill with thugs and gangstas...like suge and murder inc...and he would slap 50 cent in the face for using his beat

...

fuck it u not worth an answer at all
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: 7even on May 31, 2003, 05:58:47 PM
what the fuck is the difference between admitting something and claiming something...and ja isn't claiming anything...he's admitting it...str8 up

"Baby can you give it to me
Nah...I'ma give it to you
The same way that we gave it to Proof
The same way that we gave it to Loose [Change]"

this sounds like he's admitting it...and even if he is claiming it (as you say)...don't you find that your beloved 50 cent and eminem are pussies for not doing anything about it?....ja just admitted (or claimed) to have done it...where's their revenge?

i agree with you that pac wouldn't chill with rappers from the east...but there is no more eastcoast/westcoast...ja chills with suge...and pac would chill with suge too cause he's a gangsta...but this area of discussion is stupid cause pac's dead and there is no point in arguing about shit that 'could' or 'would' happen....

so lets stick to facts...lil kim DID bite biggie....i don't care how long she chilled with him...she bit him..."Believe me sweetie, i got enough to feed the needy"....and nobody has a right to bite anything from anybody...especially a dead person....i know ja did it...but why doesn't 50 cent and em get flak for taking hail mary, and jay-z for ripping off pac's lyrics...and jay-z's case is the worst cause he didn't do it bluntly and out in the open....he tried to keep it low-key....

you listened to 50 before he went commercial....damn...i feel sorry for you...you must have an disgusting taste in music....

i want to thank you for admiting i put up a few good arguments...i takes a real man to admit 'defeat'....

smartass: i know everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but everybody argues back and forth to prove that THEIR opinion is RIGHT...and so far, no one has put up good arguments against me....

az

you still have time  for sayin you just an alias.
still. use it 'fore it's too late
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: white Boy on May 31, 2003, 08:17:48 PM
what about jay z copying 2pac? and biggie in excuse me miss?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: NewJack on June 01, 2003, 07:39:01 AM
Holy fucking shyt.. Lil' Kim doesn't have a right to bite off of Biggie? That would be like saying if Dr. Dre died, Eminem could not 'bite' off him. Do you really think that is true? In this case, it isn't biting, because the two people are close friends, in Biggie and Kim's case, more. It isn't biting because the people worked together in real life and would have continued to had not one of them deceased.

Also, I never admitted defeat, I said you put up good arguments, and then defended my state, going against those arguments. If you think you've 'won' then you must not be paying much attention.

I like how you feel sorry for me for listening to 50. Just curious, would you mind listing a few of your favorite rappers so I could get a taste of what real music is?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: quik4life on June 01, 2003, 02:16:47 PM
I like how you feel sorry for me for listening to 50. Just curious, would you mind listing a few of your favorite rappers so I could get a taste of what real music is?

sure...(they are not in any particular order)

DJ Quik - everything this man produces is gold...his lyrics are above average...he's funny, not a poser, he's humourous...imo, the best artist ever...he makes well rounded music and shit you can listen to over and over and not get sick of...like the Real Slim Shady and most of Eminem's 'garbage'....

Kurupt - one of the sickest lyricists in the westcoast...has a good style, good flow...when Daz was producing for him (them), they were untouchable...Against the Grain was shit, but his next LP is gonna fucken wicked...

2Pac - no explanation needed.
Biggie - no explanation needed.
Jay-Z - some of his shit is pretty fat...

Eazy E and Bone Thugs N Harmony  - eazy kills it...he's my fav member from NWA aside from Dre....and bone keeps it real...they're hardcore and i love their production from U-Neek....dark, disturbing, haunting, murderous shit....fucken wicked....i also like Krayzie and Layzie's solo efforts...especially Krayzie

Eminem - some shit is OK...he's amazing lyrically, but i can't play more than 3 or 4 tracks of his in a row cause he gets annoying...

Knoc'turnal - i think he has a wicked style and that he's gonna blowup when his LP drops...he deserves more credit than he gets...he's a wicked songwriter and chorus writer....

don't like too much eastcoast stuff, but some is aight...such as Mobb Deep, Meth & Red,

back to the west...

xzibit, production from Warren G is amazing and everyone of his LP's were hot...lyrically too....i like snoop's old stuff, but ever since he did 'Beautiful', i've lost some respect for him....i remember him saying "you'll never catch a nigger doin' R&B"...oh well....he went mainstream and commercial...even tho nate dogg kills it on the choruses, he's still my fav singer when it comes to that shit...dr. dre is wicked too...from the beginning even till now....but i like his production better than his lyrics...i think most ppl do...

lately, i've been listening to some Amir, DJ Skratch, and Mausberg and Suga Free from Quik's camp are pretty hot too....

hope that satisfies your curiousity....

az
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Jome on June 01, 2003, 06:05:14 PM
50 fanz iz upset in herre an jome y u sayin ja screamin westside? u know y he said westside? because he said "throw ya on down 2 duh west(westside!)" he was sayin he was gonna send 50 2 duh westside

False false false.

Nobody is "upset in herre", and when Ja REPEATEDLY screams out "Westsiiiide" and "Cali-FOE-niaaaa", even people like yourself SHOULD get the picture.
NOT TO MENTION: "Westside" license-plates in videos...

And how is Ja gonna send 50 to the Westside.. through mail ? Cuz Ja cant set his foot there.
And the West mostly got love for 50 anyways.. so what's the use ?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: soufside on June 01, 2003, 06:47:45 PM
50 fanz iz upset in herre an jome y u sayin ja screamin westside? u know y he said westside? because he said "throw ya on down 2 duh west(westside!)" he was sayin he was gonna send 50 2 duh westside

False false false.

Nobody is "upset in herre", and when Ja REPEATEDLY screams out "Westsiiiide" and "Cali-FOE-niaaaa", even people like yourself SHOULD get the picture.
NOT TO MENTION: "Westside" license-plates in videos...

And how is Ja gonna send 50 to the Westside.. through mail ? Cuz Ja cant set his foot there.
And the West mostly got love for 50 anyways.. so what's the use ?

repeatedly? dog he sed it once haha an duh westside license plates iz cuz dey filmed duh video out herre an send down 2 duh wes is a figure uh speech dog how u know ja cant cum herre? werre in cali u live? cuz as long as suge an dem iz on his side he got all duh chances 2 b out herre 50 got love frum women an ja still duz too but ja iz backed by suge 50 iz back by dre
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Jome on June 01, 2003, 09:06:12 PM
repeatedly? dog he sed it once haha an duh westside license plates iz cuz dey filmed duh video out herre an send down 2 duh wes is a figure uh speech dog how u know ja cant cum herre? werre in cali u live? cuz as long as suge an dem iz on his side he got all duh chances 2 b out herre 50 got love frum women an ja still duz too but ja iz backed by suge 50 iz back by dre

Yeah, Suge is running L.A. like he's Gotti himself..  ::)
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Hater Player on June 01, 2003, 09:20:34 PM
50 cent is caca u vatos shoud lisen to real hiphop like lil rob n shit
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: 7even on June 02, 2003, 03:42:47 AM
repeatedly? dog he sed it once haha an duh westside license plates iz cuz dey filmed duh video out herre an send down 2 duh wes is a figure uh speech dog how u know ja cant cum herre? werre in cali u live? cuz as long as suge an dem iz on his side he got all duh chances 2 b out herre 50 got love frum women an ja still duz too but ja iz backed by suge 50 iz back by dre

Yeah, Suge is running L.A. like he's Gotti himself..  ::)

props to jome for understandin this disabled ppl language
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Quakaveli on June 02, 2003, 08:21:31 AM
Former member of The Outlawz "Fatal Hussein" recenlty spoke to MTV, ther wrote an article on there site concerning Fatal & Ja's diss towards Eminem/50Cent/Aftermath etc... check the article below...
Ja Rule's proposed six months away from the music biz has lasted a whole two weeks.

Murder Inc.'s biggest record seller resurfaced over the weekend via the mixtape circuit with a freestyle called "The Wrap," which features Tupac's one-time Outlawz clique member Fatal Hussein. No, the title isn't paying homage to one of your favorite MTV shows — it's referring to what Rule perceives to be the status of his foes' careers.
While Ja's wrath is contained to just one freestyle verse, the Queens native manages to once again throw a few barbs at 50 Cent, Dr. Dre and Busta Rhymes over the instrumental for Mobb Deep's "The Learning (Burn)." Rule also addresses a physical altercation between members of the Inc. and D12's Proof at a Miami strip club a few weeks ago and the accusation that federal agents are investigating his record company for laundering drug money.

"Plus the feds want us bad for cleaning cash," raps Ja, who orders 50 to "pull your skirt down" toward the end of the record. "But what cash is we cleansing?" he continues. "It's all about the Benjamins, what?/ If it's dirty then we rinsing it off."
Earlier this month in Miami, Murder Inc.'s head honcho, Irv Gotti, told MTV News that Ja was taking a six-month hiatus, explaining that after releasing a solo album every year since 1999 and becoming a fixture on radio and video airwaves, the fans may have been getting a little tired of Rule and needed a break. Gotti also revealed plans for a Rule double LP sometime in 2004 (see "Ja Rule To Give Fans A Break From His Music"). There is no further word on the status of that project.

In addition to working with the Outlawz, Fatal Hussein rapped alongside Tupac on various projects including All Eyez on Me before dropping his solo debut, In the Line of Fire, in 1998 and going to jail in 1999. A free man for the past year and a half, Fatal is now signed to Rap-A-Lot Records and says that a joint venture of sorts is being brokered between Gotti and Rap-A-Lot CEO J. Prince to put out his next LP.

"We're doing this little deal with J. and Irv — they talking about a deal, I don't know how it's going down," Fatal said last month inside Black Child's Queens, New York, recording studio. "Before I got locked up in '99, Ja was my man. We used to hook up in the 'hood, I used to come to his shows. We've always been cool. When I came home we was speaking through a mutual friend. I knew all I had to do was see my dog and it was going to be back on."

Fatal also said that he was affronted when 50 Cent used Pac's vocals on "The Realest Killas," incorporating some of his former mentor's rhyme flows and lyrics on the "Hail Mary" freestyle (see "50 Cent Disses Ja Rule On Tupac Joint; New Biggie Material On The Horizon").

"I feel it's a problem, playing with his lyrics like that," Fatal said of "The Realest Killas." "That needs to be addressed. I remember I heard it [and] they [were] trying to say that [Ja] is trying to sound like Pac when [50 is] dead on him. All you did was take 'Ambitionz Az a Ridah' and play it back, wrote a verse and took it to the lab and said 'I'mma be Pac now' and just try to say all this bullsh-- about Rule.

"I'm one of the Outlawz, so my opinion is going to be real critical," he continued. "That 'Hail Mary' was wack, total trash, no creativity. Why rap over certain stuff? You're not making it any doper. To me, it was a slap in the face to anybody that stood for something that Pac was holding down. It was a slap in the face to say you're repping Tupac. You're listening to his lyrics and putting his lyrics back on over his beats. You're not creating, you're biting. You didn't even know him. It's going to be some action taken. It's going to be some stuff coming out."

"The Wrap" can be found on Big Mike's Year of the Rookie Part 2 mixtape.
"50's 'Hail Mary' was wack, total trash. ... You're biting. You didn't even know him. It's going to be some action taken." — Outlawz member Fatal Hussein - MTV

Fatal iz biased wit ja Fool but he does hav a little point...50 does bite pac a little, not as much as ja Fool tho.  But anyway U gotta admit that freestyle "The Wrap" had some hot disses from ja Rule, I aint ever heard this fool this good,
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: soufside on June 02, 2003, 03:12:23 PM
repeatedly? dog he sed it once haha an duh westside license plates iz cuz dey filmed duh video out herre an send down 2 duh wes is a figure uh speech dog how u know ja cant cum herre? werre in cali u live? cuz as long as suge an dem iz on his side he got all duh chances 2 b out herre 50 got love frum women an ja still duz too but ja iz backed by suge 50 iz back by dre

Yeah, Suge is running L.A. like he's Gotti himself..  ::)
u frum l.a. dog? probaly not suge calls more shots here den snoop duz more den dre duz  u know im rite bout eryting i sed datz y u cant say nuffin jus cuz ja says westside dun mean hes claimin cali outlawz yell westside dey claim jersey snoop claim eastside duz dat mean he want 2 b frum duh east coast?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: 7even on June 02, 2003, 03:15:31 PM
repeatedly? dog he sed it once haha an duh westside license plates iz cuz dey filmed duh video out herre an send down 2 duh wes is a figure uh speech dog how u know ja cant cum herre? werre in cali u live? cuz as long as suge an dem iz on his side he got all duh chances 2 b out herre 50 got love frum women an ja still duz too but ja iz backed by suge 50 iz back by dre

Yeah, Suge is running L.A. like he's Gotti himself..  ::)
u frum l.a. dog? probaly not suge calls more shots here den snoop duz more den dre duz  u know im rite bout eryting i sed datz y u cant say nuffin jus cuz ja says westside dun mean hes claimin cali outlawz yell westside dey claim jersey snoop claim eastside duz dat mean he want 2 b frum duh east coast?

lol
you straight suckceed in tryin to be retarded, props for that, soufside.
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on June 02, 2003, 03:27:03 PM
soufside, you are retard for typing like that, I think that Jome is the only one left that actually bothers to read your nonsense posts.

I can't figure out how 50 Cent bites 2Pac.  I guess because I don't believe that making a cover/remake is biting.  If someone thinks he bites 2Pac because of "Hail Mary" that's on you, but am I forgoting/missing something that 50 did to "bite" 2Pac?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: white Boy on June 02, 2003, 03:29:47 PM
what about jay z coppieng pac and biggie on several ocasions!!
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: soufside on June 02, 2003, 05:00:21 PM
soufside, you are retard for typing like that, I think that Jome is the only one left that actually bothers to read your nonsense posts.

I can't figure out how 50 Cent bites 2Pac.  I guess because I don't believe that making a cover/remake is biting.  If someone thinks he bites 2Pac because of "Hail Mary" that's on you, but am I forgoting/missing something that 50 did to "bite" 2Pac?
u just read my post dog ha ill write it in proper english 2 duh bes uh mah ability since i dun speak proper i speak wif an accent frum mexico la an texas wif slang mixed in frum all erias so excuse me 4 not bein raised in a household werre proper english wuz spoken u ignorant bitches

if jome is from la then he wud know that suge runs shit more den snoop an dre an jus cuz ja rule says westside doesnt mean hes claimin cali ne1 can claim westside outlawz do it ne1 can claim a side snoop claim eastside so by jomes way of thinkin snoop wants 2 b from the east coast rite?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Jome on June 02, 2003, 05:05:39 PM
soufside, you are retard for typing like that, I think that Jome is the only one left that actually bothers to read your nonsense posts.


Yeah, you're right, LoL.. I give up, even Peanut Butter makes more sense.

Note to Soufffsyde: Snoop claims Eastside of LBC, you jackass!!
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: soufside on June 03, 2003, 11:42:14 AM
soufside, you are retard for typing like that, I think that Jome is the only one left that actually bothers to read your nonsense posts.


Yeah, you're right, LoL.. I give up, even Peanut Butter makes more sense.

Note to Soufffsyde: Snoop claims Eastside of LBC, you jackass!!
i know dat dood but i wuz provin a point dood iz claimin a side of his city not a coast jas claimin a side of his city if he iz claimin westside u obviously jus try 2 fin the smallest tings 2 hate on ja did 50 tell u 2 hate ja?
Title: Re:Fatal calls 50 Cent "Garbage"
Post by: Jome on June 03, 2003, 03:49:24 PM
i know dat dood but i wuz provin a point dood iz claimin a side of his city not a coast jas claimin a side of his city if he iz claimin westside u obviously jus try 2 fin the smallest tings 2 hate on ja did 50 tell u 2 hate ja?

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