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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: P2G on June 07, 2003, 08:06:50 AM
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Jus listenin 2 balance and options... everyone knows that quik is one of the most slept on artist/producers, but damn his cds are fuckin amazin, (not sayin dre's arent) but the reason i would say quik is better than dre is that he releases way more music, and never fails 2 come dope on every single one. Not just producing though, listen to put it on me when theyre rappin together... quik was by far the better rapper on that track. Quik and dre's music always bangs but the fact that quik puts so much more out and never slips up is amazin, the mans a genius
we salute you.
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Why compare 2 Dre? Y not another producer, HATER?
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lol
kids, luv em.
i compared to dre because he is the closest to quik,
quik and dre are the best 2 producers on the westcoast.
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Most of dre's beats are basic and shit and there getting played out now..Quik comes with somthin new everytime and he put's in variety of instuments in his beats..Quik is way better then dre in my opinion
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Dre is wayy better than quik. Ask people do they know quik or Dre more would know Dre.
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Dre is wayy better than quik. Ask people do they know quik or Dre more would know Dre.
this aint about who is known more though is it? its about who is better, and quik is slept on, just because somebody is more well known more, doesnt mean they are better, theyre just maybe more commercial, or in the lime light.. whatever..
you say dre is better than quik, thats your opinion... thats what this forums 4, opinions.
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^AGREE^
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Dre is wayy better than quik. Ask people do they know quik or Dre more would know Dre.
idiot...are you 12 years old?
quik is betta than dre...musically, lyrically, everything...just cause dre is more popular doesn't make him better....dre relies too much on sampling...quik knows how to play a lot more instruments than dre and brings variety into the game....hawaiian, calypso, jazz, funk...and incorporates them into hiphop....you pump dre's beats 3 times and you are already sick of them....pump a quik beat, and you'll hear something new each time you hear it....ya know?
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pump a quik beat, and you'll hear something new each time you hear it....
Yup. That's the difference right there. I wouldn't say I'd get sick of a Dre beat after three listens; far from it. But Quik's shit is several times deeper in terms of the arrangement, melody and so on. It's hard to argue who is the better producer, but as far as musicianship, Quik has it every time.
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Yeah Quik is just much more musical than Dre and therefore the layering of his beats mean that you do just keep hearing new shit in them every time you listen. For me Quik is the best producer on the west at the moment fa sure!!
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i love some people's reasoning on this board.....
so if i ask someone who is better known...mickey mouse, or Dr. Dre, that makes mickey mouse better at everything because more people know him?
i always wondered what made people better from than the next person.
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pump a quik beat, and you'll hear something new each time you hear it....
Yup. That's the difference right there. I wouldn't say I'd get sick of a Dre beat after three listens; far from it. But Quik's shit is several times deeper in terms of the arrangement, melody and so on. It's hard to argue who is the better producer, but as far as musicianship, Quik has it every time.
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Quik never changed his style the way Dre did it several times..
he never had the variety Dre has in his catalogue
and the fact that Quik released more music is as much of an argument as Dre being more famous..
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pump a quik beat, and you'll hear something new each time you hear it....
Yup. That's the difference right there. I wouldn't say I'd get sick of a Dre beat after three listens; far from it. But Quik's shit is several times deeper in terms of the arrangement, melody and so on. It's hard to argue who is the better producer, but as far as musicianship, Quik has it every time.
I agree, plus imo Quik is one of the most creative and well rounded artists. He's hella original too, and tou can just tell how much effort he put in his beats when you bump them. I'm not saying that Dre's wack btw.
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quik might be a better rapper than dre, which IS true but production wise dre is a lot better
for one dre knows how to mold a beat and make new sounds.....quik's beats are more or less carbon copies of roger and zapp, parliment, and if anyone knows who george benson is, if you listen to his songs you notice a huge simularity to him and quik. not to take away from dj quik but his beats are just toy models of thos following artists. that's 1 reason why i can put dre above quik
to just say oh yeah i like quik better than dre ....so that equals he's better is a silly thing to say , study music some more then compare the two, learn the diference between opinion and fact then i bet you'll say the opposite
for example i like nothing but a g thangs beat better than bitch niggaz's beat but bitch niggaz is produced alot better than g thangs
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i think dj quik is way better he's so much more into his work, and knows the background of music and how chords change n shit , definately a bright mf
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quik knows how to play a lot more instruments than dre and brings variety into the game....hawaiian, calypso, jazz, funk...and incorporates them into hiphop....you pump dre's beats 3 times and you are already sick of them....pump a quik beat, and you'll hear something new each time you hear it....ya know?
Exactly what I'm sayin......so I give quik enough respect for that...I swear almost every party track that is released gets shitted all over it if you compare it to quik...just if people knew about quik and he was really popular he would be a legend in music...thats just my opinion
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Quik is a better producer, because he beats are more west coast. He still makes that old funky beats with all the instruments playing. And no one can use the talkbox like him.
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Quik is much better producer than Dre. Dre gets praised all over but he don't be doin the work. that muthafukka be havin ghost producers and shit, and he be talkin all the credit. Fukk that. Quik plays instruments and shit. He's not only a producer but a composer. The dude is a musical genius & an underrated Legend.
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damn, if u guys watch visualim dvd, u realize how much of a musical genius quik is. i do prefer quik too, as his beats are more of a variety, and incorporate more instruments in them. but i strongly suggest u guys check out dj quik visualism dvd.
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Quik is much better producer than Dre. Dre gets praised all over but he don't be doin the work. that muthafukka be havin ghost producers and shit, and he be talkin all the credit. Fukk that. Quik plays instruments and shit. He's not only a producer but a composer. The dude is a musical genius & an underrated Legend.
stop haitin, u frustrated Quik fans are kinda funny.. it's not Dre's fault he's slept on and Quik himself said he can't live up to Dre.. he was in the studio with Dre several times and he saw what Dre did and if he did it himself..
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both are great producers....I would love to hear quik Beats with the help from a big and professional team like dre has.....
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Quik is much better producer than Dre. Dre gets praised all over but he don't be doin the work. that muthafukka be havin ghost producers and shit, and he be talkin all the credit. Fukk that. Quik plays instruments and shit. He's not only a producer but a composer. The dude is a musical genius & an underrated Legend.
stop haitin, u frustrated Quik fans are kinda funny..
Quik could do alotta more shit than dre can. Dre don't even make his own beats. Mike Elizando is the one doin all the work.....lol..U don't know music bitch. U probably think 50's god on the mic u fuckin dickrider.
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Dont you all think if people were producing for dre, they would come forward and say something? how many times is there going to be a dj quik vs dr. dre post?
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Dont you all think if people were producing for dre, they would come forward and say something?
It has happen already. Scott Storch said he did "Still Dre". He said he was the brains behind the whole beat. That just shows how gay dre is but takin the credit for a beat he didn't do.
"I never put my name on a track that wasn't mines" - Dj Quik "u aint fresh"....We all know who quik directed that song to.
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Scott Storch probably said that after he was dropped from aftermath, he only did the keys. It he was able to produce something as dope as Still D.R.E, why don't any of beats even sound as good as that song? You can tell there is something missing, Dr. Dre. All the accusations when people say Dre doesnt produce his own music come out after there is a disagreement.
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Personally, I prefer DJ Quik's beats over Dre's. I just never get tired of hearing a DJ Quik beat. His production is real funky & fresh. IMO, Quik's productions provide more replay value. That's just my opinion.
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Quik is much better producer than Dre. Dre gets praised all over but he don't be doin the work. that muthafukka be havin ghost producers and shit, and he be talkin all the credit. Fukk that. Quik plays instruments and shit. He's not only a producer but a composer. The dude is a musical genius & an underrated Legend.
stop haitin, u frustrated Quik fans are kinda funny..
Quik could do alotta more shit than dre can. Dre don't even make his own beats. Mike Elizando is the one doin all the work.....lol..U don't know music bitch. U probably think 50's god on the mic u fuckin dickrider.
U don't know music bitch
those kinda comments are really funny..
how about this.. U don't know me bitch
don't be sad son and please don't call me a dickryder when u provin u the dickryder in the same post.. and how come u didn't quote my whole post and said something about the rest of what I said..?
Quik did diss Dre in the past but nowdays he sais he's better than himself
and what's that stupid comment on 50 for..? cuz I got a pic of him in my sig? bitch please..
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Quik:
Dre is a legend, I have learned a lot of him
End of story.
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These are two dope producers y'all comparing. No need to pick sides, because they both have done a lot of things for the west. If you ask any artist they wouldn't give y'all an answer. For example, Snoop worked with both of them and he wouldn't say who he preferred because they are both genius'. I got to admit Dj Quik is slept on, but it takes a person to know hiphop real well to understand that quik and dre are on the same level. Dre wins in the popularity contest, but the music industry ain't about that it's about who makes good music consistently. Peace!
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Actually I don't know why someone says, that here are Dre hater. We just say that Quik is the better producer. We just like his production style more, that don't means that Dre sucks.
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u hear different shit everytime u listen 2 a dj quik album..quik is hypnotic..its like his beats are a drug...
rhythmalism is hypnotic.. u can hear different shit everytime u listen 2 it..
hell all his albus r like that..
plus quik can take a damn hippie and make him a star.. look at all tha niggas in his camp.. especially suga free..
compare these 2 pac songs.. and u'd get ya answer..
late nite produce by quik...
california love by dre..
then ....every quik groove that has been done..sound better than ne jazz musician album ..especially quiks groove 3 n 7...
dre shit is so basic.. its retarded..
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so what you are saying is that quik is better than any jazz musician ??? I seriously doubt that
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so what you are saying is that quik is better than any jazz musician ??? I seriously doubt that
Let it go homo. Quik is better than Dre. Why do u little kidz always gotta rid Dre's dick. I mean tha cat is the biggest studio Gangsta in hiphop.
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what's with the homo comment? you dont know me, dont call me a little kid or a homo. there was a good argument is all these posts then you have to come in and throw that in. and another thing...who cares if dre is a studio gangster. he produces and makes very good music, and so does quik. i never said i liked one better than the other.
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what's with the homo comment? you dont know me, dont call me a little kid or a homo. there was a good argument is all these posts then you have to come in and throw that in. and another thing...who cares if dre is a studio gangster. he produces and makes very good music, and so does quik. i never said i liked one better than the other.
You're ignorant if u think dre is better than quik. There's always some Shady/Aftermath dickriders and im guess youre on of them.
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it's obvies these kids are all bitter cuz their hero is slept on..
u'll hardly see Dre fans opeing threads like that and calling Quik a fag, a fake producer, a retard and a studio g..
I won't join yall and put Quik down just cuz I like Dre over him.. that's damn childish.. I respect both and I won't trip if anyone likes Quik over Dre..
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what's with the homo comment? you dont know me, dont call me a little kid or a homo. there was a good argument is all these posts then you have to come in and throw that in. and another thing...who cares if dre is a studio gangster. he produces and makes very good music, and so does quik. i never said i liked one better than the other.
You're ignorant if u think dre is better than quik. There's always some Shady/Aftermath dickriders and im guess youre on of them.
I never said dre was better than quik in any of my posts, i just defended him when they said he doesnt do all of his producing. yes i am a fan of shady/aftermath, but i am a fan of quik also. but by saying people who pick dre over quik are ignorant, you are insulting a lot of people on this forum.
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it's obvies these kids are all bitter cuz their hero is slept on..
u'll hardly see Dre fans opeing threads like that and calling Quik a fag, a fake producer, a retard and a studio g..
I won't join yall and put Quik down just cuz I like Dre over him.. that's damn childish.. I respect both and I won't trip if anyone likes Quik over Dre..
Perfect example of Shady/G-Unit dickrider. I know 50's your god so Why don't u just fuck him in the ass u faggot.
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what's with the homo comment? you dont know me, dont call me a little kid or a homo. there was a good argument is all these posts then you have to come in and throw that in. and another thing...who cares if dre is a studio gangster. he produces and makes very good music, and so does quik. i never said i liked one better than the other.
You're ignorant if u think dre is better than quik. There's always some Shady/Aftermath dickriders and im guess youre on of them.
I never said dre was better than quik in any of my posts, i just defended him when they said he doesnt do all of his producing. yes i am a fan of shady/aftermath, but i am a fan of quik also. but by saying people who pick dre over quik are ignorant, you are insulting a lot of people on this forum.
Why do u think dre does all his producing?? u must be idiot if u think he does all his beats by himself.
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quik doesnt do all the beats by himself, he hires musicians just like dre
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quik doesnt do all the beats by himself, he hires musicians just like dre
You Lack Knowledge son. You ignorance wouln't let u think straight.
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it's obvies these kids are all bitter cuz their hero is slept on..
u'll hardly see Dre fans opeing threads like that and calling Quik a fag, a fake producer, a retard and a studio g..
I won't join yall and put Quik down just cuz I like Dre over him.. that's damn childish.. I respect both and I won't trip if anyone likes Quik over Dre..
Perfect example of Shady/G-Unit dickrider. I know 50's your god so Why don't u just fuck him in the ass u faggot.
somethings wrong with u
read my post again retard.. what the FUCK besides that lil pic in my avatar has anything to do with Shady/G-Unit..?
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this thread got out of hand....but anyways i think quik is better than dre and i'll give in example...listen to under the influence....the weakest and most simple beat on there is put it on me...and we both know who helped in that...quik said he looks up to dre because quik is a modest guy.
and when if comes to producing....dre and quik both hire musicians but quik has been known to do most of the shit himself....and people have been known to complain about dre giving credit where credit is due....
finally, namecalling won't solve who's a better producer and also doesn't stand to sway someone's opinion....i don't think if a called everyone that likes quik a fag, that all of a sudden they'd see things my way and like dre.
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it's obvies these kids are all bitter cuz their hero is slept on..
u'll hardly see Dre fans opeing threads like that and calling Quik a fag, a fake producer, a retard and a studio g..
I won't join yall and put Quik down just cuz I like Dre over him.. that's damn childish.. I respect both and I won't trip if anyone likes Quik over Dre..
Perfect example of Shady/G-Unit dickrider. I know 50's your god so Why don't u just fuck him in the ass u faggot.
is that something you normaly do yourself?? fuckin you god in the ass? ::) :-\
according to you, if somebody prefer dre, he's a dickryder, but if he prefer quik, he's normal...
hm....
you seems to be the only dickryder here
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It makes me happy seein so many people who agree with me that Quik is better...I have been sayin it since 2000 and 2001. Most people I kno in L.A. kno Quik is better but in other states they say Dre is the best producer in the industry, but thas only because they never hear Quik.
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DJ Quik has never produced an album that could touch Straight Outta Compton, No One Can Do It Better, The Chronic or Doggystyle.
Dr. Dre has produced more undisputed classic hip-hop albums then any other producer.
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DJ Quik has never produced an album that could touch Straight Outta Compton, No One Can Do It Better, The Chronic or Doggystyle.
Dr. Dre has produced more undisputed classic hip-hop albums then any other producer.
thas true but at the same time, dre hasn't been as dope since. If he was makin beats like Quik makes now, then he would get even more respect in the game than he gets right now.
DJ Quik may not be as good of a executive producer as Dre, but at the same time, Quik hasn't had the same opportunities to produce for big names as Dre did...he gave PERFECT beats to 2nd II None and other rappers with the same like.
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yeah this threads got kinda into a name-callin match, but anywayz, i think a lot of people are thinkin theres got to be a winner, there isnt, and i maybe titled this thread wrong by using BETTER.. what is better? im not gonn get into all that but i know quik is one down to earth mofo and him sayin he has learned a lot from dre is exactly something i'd expect him to say, and he probably has, whats to say dre aint learned from quik, just cos he hasn't said it in a interview... i think some guy hit it on the head though about "put it on me" havin dre's influence, i like the song, but you can hear Dre's sound straight away, and i like it.. theres nothing wrong with dre, he's amazin
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quik has impressed me through out his entire career.
i haven't checked for dre in i don't know how long.
honestly i'd listen to plenty of other westcoast producers before even thinking of him.
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DJ Quik has never produced an album that could touch Straight Outta Compton, No One Can Do It Better, The Chronic or Doggystyle.
Dr. Dre has produced more undisputed classic hip-hop albums then any other producer.
Quik is the name, Safe & Sound, Rythm-al-ism, 2nd II None's first album & Suga Free's street Gospel were just as good. Get your facts straight before you post something stupid again.
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Quik is the name, Safe & Sound, Rythm-al-ism, 2nd II None's first album & Suga Free's street Gospel were just as good. Get your facts straight before you post something stupid again.
If you think these albums are undisputed hip-hop classics and on the same level with The Chronic or Straight Outta Compton then you are one dumb son of a bitch.
You don't even know the name of 2nd II None's first album but you're calling it a classic and putting it on the level of Doggystyle. LOL, that's cute.
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Quik is the name, Safe & Sound, Rythm-al-ism, 2nd II None's first album & Suga Free's street Gospel were just as good. Get your facts straight before you post something stupid again.
If you think these albums are undisputed hip-hop classics and on the same level with The Chronic or Straight Outta Compton then you are one dumb son of a bitch.
You don't even know the name of 2nd II None's first album but you're calling it a classic and putting it on the level of Doggystyle. LOL, that's cute.
2nd II None's first album was self titiled thats why i said there first album u stupid white piece of shit.
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LoL @ this Quik groupie.. she probably got a backstage partout-card.
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2nd II None's first album was self titiled thats why i said there first album u stupid white piece of shit.
Hmmm...
- Rasicm, Sexism and/or religious bigotry will not be tolerated in any shape or form.
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maybe LB gerz was talking about the color of the piece of shit.....note there's not a comma after white meaning that stupid and white are both characteristics of said piece of shit. now if there were commas...then he/she would be calling whomever stupid, white and a piece of shit, or a stupid white, piece of shit...therefore LB Gerz is not guilty of a hate crime on the WCC forum and you must aquit.
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Not just producing though, listen to put it on me when theyre rappin together... quik was by far the better rapper on that track.
in dre's defence i think he was going thru a weird phase where he was trying out new styles of rapping. u might have heard crooked guys (w/ truth hurts). he tried a new style there too. u cant say quik is a better rapper based on put it on me. dre is definitely a better rapper tho at times quik comes up with gr8 lyrics.
production wise i cant make up my mind on who's better. theyre both diffreent and both very good. lets just leave it at that.
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I was a Dre dickrider but that man always makes headbumping music
Quiks music takes a little taste, and initially I didnt bump his shit much when i was a pop-rap teenybooper, but this mans a musical genuis, much more versitile than Dre, just look at Addictive, shit was his idea and blew up...fool has a real musical head. Of course Dre will always bring bangers, but I prefer Quik slightly over Dre over musicmanship
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safe n sound is on tha level as tha chronic and doggystyle..hell its sounds better than any of those albums music wise..aint shit ever made can fuck wit tha clarity and clearness of safe n sound...and quik produce that whole album ...
unlike dre...
hell dre didnt even produce all tha song on those albums...daz had a hand in both those albums...
no one can do it betta and straight out of compton.. dj yella
quik uses musicians... hell who doesnt...quincy jones tha greatest producer ever uses them...
unlike dre.. quik gets musicians who been in tha game.. who has skills and wont do no half ass shit..nigga
quik said it in 92 he's amerikas most complete artist..nobody has taken tha crown yet..
dre he's great becuz of deathrow... deathrow made dre who he is today...be4 tha row... dre was in tha same level as quik... he was gettin mention as tha games greatest producer or tha best of tha west when he was wit ruthless...
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I think Jake made some good points, I mean sure Quik makes dope beats, but most of the stuff he makes has all been done before. Someone said something about Quiks "late night" beat for pac, compared to "cali love", both songs are not original. Dre replayed the melody from a Joe Cocker song, and Quik just took an old song and looped it.
IMO If Dre and Quik were a production team, they'd be unstopable.
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hell dre didnt even produce all tha song on those albums...daz had a hand in both those albums...
That's funny, my credits say produced by Dr. Dre, but I guess that was a typo.
no one can do it betta and straight out of compton.. dj yella
Shit, another typo on No One Can Do It Better and Straight Outta Compton.
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Dre is better. Learn what a producer is and does before you comment.
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hell dre didnt even produce all tha song on those albums...daz had a hand in both those albums...
That's funny, my credits say produced by Dr. Dre, but I guess that was a typo.
no one can do it betta and straight out of compton.. dj yella
Shit, another typo on No One Can Do It Better and Straight Outta Compton.
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I cannot really say if it's true or not, but what I have heard almost every producer I know say, is that on many of Dre's old beats, Daz would make em, and Dre would make a few small changes but then put his name on it. Now I donno how true it is but I hear so many people say it, it makes me wonder. Besides, the fact Dre's name is on somethin will make it sell more than sayin Daz, especially if it's somethin Snoop did.
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hell dre didnt even produce all tha song on those albums...daz had a hand in both those albums...
That's funny, my credits say produced by Dr. Dre, but I guess that was a typo.
no one can do it betta and straight out of compton.. dj yella
Shit, another typo on No One Can Do It Better and Straight Outta Compton.
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I cannot really say if it's true or not, but what I have heard almost every producer I know say, is that on many of Dre's old beats, Daz would make em, and Dre would make a few small changes but then put his name on it. Now I donno how true it is but I hear so many people say it, it makes me wonder. Besides, the fact Dre's name is on somethin will make it sell more than sayin Daz, especially if it's somethin Snoop did.
see what's so funny about all this is..
Str8 Outta CPT.. Yella
Niggaz4Life.. Yella
No One Can Do It Better.. Yella
The Chronic.. Daz
Doggystyle.. Daz
2001.. various
so how come all these are straight up classics but Dre never really producedd them? Daz did never beats like the ones on The Chronic and there was a new style all over 2001.. it's always those other cats who make Dre's beats but whenever Dre claims they are his they classics all of a sudden when those producers usually don't produce these kinda classics.. through Dre's whole career there're other producers doin his shit and givin him the best beats of their whole career (but they always stay quiet until there's some sort of disagreement or beef).. and many of the best producers ever still consider Dre the greatest ever and shit, just like Quik himself.. isn't Dre one lucky muthafucka?
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I think most of these people claiming credit don't even know what a producer is. They do something like lay the drums and play the keys and somehow that means they produced the song.
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^^Yep
No One Can Do It Better produced by Dre by his damn self.
And it's pretty much known that Yella was mainly just a drum programmer and did the technical stuff as Dre didn't really know how to do that in the beginning. And Warren G worked on Doggystyle as well as Daz, but all of the songs they worked on for it were co-produced by Dre.