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Title: X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Hatesrats™ on June 12, 2003, 10:47:59 PM
In the spirit of the homie...Big BpG
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I'ma go ahead and say that ImO..
no Westcoast cd has bumped or had as much play this disc in my ride since the early Deathrow dayz..
this Liks shitt is straight Westcoast Ride type shitt..
and fuck-a-critic..yo I love this cd..

Every track has a dope beat and Danmm'ed If I can't keep knocc'n hoes to it...I'm fresh off some slit...right now ;D
I'm addicted to this fucken cd..
Listen to it from start to finish..

Every track is Laced with Liquid
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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Post by: Jome on June 12, 2003, 11:02:13 PM
Fuck nah.
Dope ass beats thanks to E-Swift, Rockwilder and more, but it's too party party..
Brainless party-music, which of course is hella fun for parties, but as for lyrics.. thumb down.
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Hatesrats™ on June 12, 2003, 11:04:08 PM
Dope ass beats thanks to E-Swift, Rockwilder and more, but it's too party party..
Brainless party-music, which of course is hella fun for parties, but as for lyrics.. thumb down.
Exactly..I ain't in school..
I'm out for gettin' faded and gettin' pussy.

Hatesrats 2oooTre
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Jome on June 12, 2003, 11:06:17 PM
Dope ass beats thanks to E-Swift, Rockwilder and more, but it's too party party..
Brainless party-music, which of course is hella fun for parties, but as for lyrics.. thumb down.
Exactly..I ain't in school..
I'm out for gettin' faded and gettin' pussy.

Hatesrats 2oooTre

Make up your mind..
You can't have Crooked I in your sig. and say fuck lyrics..  :P
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Jac on June 12, 2003, 11:07:21 PM
hey doggie, i feel u bro. This is one of my fav cds. I never get tired of bumpin this shit.
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: KVB on June 12, 2003, 11:07:29 PM
Yeah it's a banging album. Very underrated too. I think calling it classic is going one step too far though, I would give it 4.25-4,5 mics. My favorite track is "Run Wild", that shit bumped forever... I can't find one weak cut on the entire CD, I'd say it's a must-have, just not quite good enough to be called a classic... IMO. Nevertheless good thread homie, props on that. ;)
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Jac on June 12, 2003, 11:08:24 PM
Dope ass beats thanks to E-Swift, Rockwilder and more, but it's too party party..
Brainless party-music, which of course is hella fun for parties, but as for lyrics.. thumb down.
Exactly..I ain't in school..
I'm out for gettin' faded and gettin' pussy.

Hatesrats 2oooTre

Make up your mind..
You can't have Crooked I in your sig. and say fuck lyrics..  :P

sounds like hes contradicting himself....its all good, we all do that.
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Halu Sination on June 12, 2003, 11:16:46 PM
LIKWIT IS THE FUCKING BEST
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Jim Jones on June 12, 2003, 11:44:03 PM
Classic CD.
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Post by: Skindiana bon3z on June 12, 2003, 11:48:25 PM
yeah its a dope ass cd, Classic IMO
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Post by: CharlieBrown on June 12, 2003, 11:52:52 PM
It's a dope ass party album, not classic and it has some dodgy songs but Anotha Round is classic Alkaholiks.
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: DJ_Jay_Deee on June 12, 2003, 11:58:03 PM
Yeah fucking mad cd. Very dope indeed. Like some of their older shit better tho.

Whoever said the lyrics aren't that good, listen to Tash. He is one of the wests best.Very UNDERATED.
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Don Rizzle on June 13, 2003, 01:46:38 AM
Yeah it's a banging album. Very underrated too. I think calling it classic is going one step too far though, I would give it 4.25-4,5 mics. My favorite track is "Run Wild", that shit bumped forever... I can't find one weak cut on the entire CD, I'd say it's a must-have, just not quite good enough to be called a classic... IMO. Nevertheless good thread homie, props on that. ;)
well said. it is still one of the best cds in a while
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Post by: Halu Sination on June 13, 2003, 02:49:41 AM
Yeah fucking mad cd. Very dope indeed. Like some of their older shit better tho.

Whoever said the lyrics aren't that good, listen to Tash. He is one of the wests best.Very UNDERATED.

for real. out of the whole likwit crew, tash and phil da agony are the best lyricists.
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Post by: OpTiCaL on June 13, 2003, 03:13:57 AM
I was well into the liks (lol before the name change) when was at school...
...used to order cd's from the states in a store called red records...damn!

Dont bump them much at all today...gotta be in the right frame of mind...

...but this album was fine...not quite a classic imo but very good none the less.

Damn hadnt even givent them much thought in a long ass time...thanks for bringing them up :)

pZ
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Post by: Scarfacetony on June 13, 2003, 04:16:07 AM
Im feelin COAST 2 COAST much more
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Post by: Darksider on June 13, 2003, 04:53:12 AM
very good cd...but sometimes too much party feeling
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Alk on June 13, 2003, 05:36:30 AM
This is my faviourite rap album for sure..I still listen to this every week...getting drunk to this since it first came out...every song is sick!
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: Don Seer on June 13, 2003, 06:11:36 AM
From what ya'll sayin sounds like its made for beer monsters...
never could really get into this album.. :/

i'll get mashed over the w/e and give it a bump.. lol
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Post by: caTASHtrophe on June 13, 2003, 12:41:03 PM
Solid 4/5 BUT Coast 2 Coast is by far there best album.

 :)
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: BigCain on June 13, 2003, 11:28:00 PM

Fuck nah.
Dope ass beats thanks to E-Swift, Rockwilder and more, but it's too party party..
Brainless party-music, which of course is hella fun for parties, but as for lyrics.. thumb down.
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As U can see, I'm more of reader than a poster and I have agreed with your post MANY more times than not, so U got respect, but I think U dropped the ball in a major way on this one homie... thumb down on lyrics when talking about Big Tash??????  Come on Homie!! Have U even peeped the album or any LIKS Album or the Tash Album?????  Tash is consistently crazy on the MIC... U might want to pump fake that one....
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Post by: Jome on June 13, 2003, 11:40:40 PM

As U can see, I'm more of reader than a poster and I have agreed with your post MANY more times than not, so U got respect, but I think U dropped the ball in a major way on this one homie... thumb down on lyrics when talking about Big Tash??????  Come on Homie!! Have U even peeped the album or any LIKS Album or the Tash Album?????  Tash is consistently crazy on the MIC... U might want to pump fake that one....

Uhh.. I'm talking about lyrics, not the flow.
Because when it comes to flow, Tash is among the best there is.. but he's not a lyrical master.

Believe me..
I have heard this album 300 times over..
I know all the lyrics for this album.

Tash ain't no Pharoahe, Nas or Ras Kass.
I bump this album for the dope ass beats, so if you're saying Tash is a lyrical genius, you can't know the difference about flow and lyrical content.

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Post by: Halu Sination on June 14, 2003, 12:34:16 AM
actually the rhyme scheme is part of one's flow, so flow and lyrics actually do have something to do with each other.
Title: Re:X.O. Experience is classic.... And Datz All I'm Sayin!
Post by: BigCain on June 14, 2003, 01:44:09 AM


Uhh.. I'm talking about lyrics, not the flow.
Because when it comes to flow, Tash is among the best there is.. but he's not a lyrical master.

Believe me..
I have heard this album 300 times over..
I know all the lyrics for this album.

Tash ain't no Pharoahe, Nas or Ras Kass.
I bump this album for the dope ass beats, so if you're saying Tash is a lyrical genius, you can't know the difference about flow and lyrical content.


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Lyrics not the flow? Come on, lets keep it simple... FLow & Lyrics go hand in hand along with delivery, voice, etc... I don't think your dissin Tash and will not hate on the dope MCs U mentioned... However you brought up your boy Pharoahe (who I got love 4).. When comparing the two they are Very much alike especially when it come to DOPE & Punchlines metaphors being their "bread & butter" I recently accepted the fact (after much thought!) that Nas is currently the best MC by a ways.... And Ras I have right there with Defari & Sly Boogy as so-called "westcoast" Lyricist.... When you try and break it down so much it stinks of that old "East Coast-we evented hip-hop so only we really know about it" attitude.. Holla back play boy
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Post by: Halu Sination on June 14, 2003, 01:51:01 AM
yeah pharoahe lyrics flow extremely well like tash's, and for the most part they are similar (not their style, but the case between them).

and ras kass would murder every rapper named so far lyrically.
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Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on June 14, 2003, 04:55:17 PM
i didnt really feel this disc....i was really pumped for it when it came out too...
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Post by: Jome on June 14, 2003, 10:45:58 PM
Lyrics not the flow? Come on, lets keep it simple... FLow & Lyrics go hand in hand along with delivery, voice, etc... I don't think your dissin Tash and will not hate on the dope MCs U mentioned... However you brought up your boy Pharoahe (who I got love 4).. When comparing the two they are Very much alike especially when it come to DOPE & Punchlines metaphors being their "bread & butter" I recently accepted the fact (after much thought!) that Nas is currently the best MC by a ways.... And Ras I have right there with Defari & Sly Boogy as so-called "westcoast" Lyricist.... When you try and break it down so much it stinks of that old "East Coast-we evented hip-hop so only we really know about it" attitude.. Holla back play boy

There has to be drawn a clear line between lyrics & flow, as you can have the most complex amazing lyrics and still flow like a nerd, or vice versa.

A good example is when comparing Ras Kass vs. Tash.

Just about everybody will tell you that Rassie is a more complex lyricist than Tash is, caTash will probably admit it himself.
But when comparing their flow, Tash obviously takes it.. not picking on Ras's flow, but as compared to Tash.. Tash wins.

Then there's other areas.. like charisma, voice, etc.
When listening to Ras, you might learn a new thing or two, but when listening to Tash.. you might learn a new alcohol flavor, but that's probably it.

Saying that lyrics & flow is basically the same, shows that your more interested in the beat, than the rappers skills.

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Post by: BigCain on June 14, 2003, 11:01:48 PM
Lyrics not the flow? Come on, lets keep it simple... FLow & Lyrics go hand in hand along with delivery, voice, etc... I don't think your dissin Tash and will not hate on the dope MCs U mentioned... However you brought up your boy Pharoahe (who I got love 4).. When comparing the two they are Very much alike especially when it come to DOPE & Punchlines metaphors being their "bread & butter" I recently accepted the fact (after much thought!) that Nas is currently the best MC by a ways.... And Ras I have right there with Defari & Sly Boogy as so-called "westcoast" Lyricist.... When you try and break it down so much it stinks of that old "East Coast-we evented hip-hop so only we really know about it" attitude.. Holla back play boy

There has to be drawn a clear line between lyrics & flow, as you can have the most complex amazing lyrics and still flow like a nerd, or vice versa



Saying that lyrics & flow is basically the same, shows that your more interested in the beat, than the rappers skills.



I agree that Canibus can sound like a nerd, but you could of made your point by complementing the specifics of the LIKS that u feel instead of side dissin Tash & nem....

But you didn't holla back Pharoahe & Tash being similar & don't think Ima take that side diss about being more interested in the beat...  Hip Hop, obviously, is too Divisive already... Tash or Meth or others like them could be considered lyrical as well (at there best).. Is there a rule against??? U have to rap about certain things to have lyrics??? Just cuz Tash focuses on Drank, parties, women & Cali and not the dead prez, krs & Ras content is only subject matter... In fact, one could argue that continuing to twist the same subject over and over in new creative lines shows lyrical skillz in itself.. Holla Homie
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Post by: Jome on June 14, 2003, 11:17:08 PM
I agree that Canibus can sound like a nerd, but you could of made your point by complementing the specifics of the LIKS that u feel instead of side dissin Tash & nem....

But you didn't holla back Pharoahe & Tash being similar & don't think Ima take that side diss about being more interested in the beat...  Hip Hop, obviously, is too Divisive already... Tash or Meth or others like them could be considered lyrical as well (at there best).. Is there a rule against??? U have to rap about certain things to have lyrics??? Just cuz Tash focuses on Drank, parties, women & Cali and not the dead prez, krs & Ras content is only subject matter... In fact, one could argue that continuing to twist the same subject over and over in new creative lines shows lyrical skillz in itself.. Holla Homie

Hmm..
I don't think Pharoahe & Tash in nothing like eachother at all.
Pharoahe is probably using days just to write a song, and get new ideas, implement metaphors and shit..
Tash is more like.. lets get drunk and write some funny rhymes..

I was never dissing Liks though, I was just saying that they're not lyrical geniuses.. even if they might have tight rhymes and flows..
And that's their whole gimmick too.. the Alkaholiks.. it would be strange if they suddenly started making "Nature of the Threat" type of tracks.

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Post by: BigCain on June 14, 2003, 11:28:48 PM

Hmm..
I don't think Pharoahe & Tash in nothing like eachother at all.
Pharoahe is probably using days just to write a song, and get new ideas, implement metaphors and shit..
Tash is more like.. lets get drunk and write some funny rhymes..

I was never dissing Liks though, I was just saying that they're not lyrical geniuses.. even if they might have tight rhymes and flows..
And that's their whole gimmick too.. the Alkaholiks.. it would be strange if they suddenly started making "Nature of the Threat" type of tracks.


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Tash and Pharoahe are REAL comparible.... U Can't deny that!  Punchlines & metaphors are the bread & butter for both... Subject is what your gettin twisted.... And I got the the Pharoahe album and all 3 Organized joints so don't trip... And don't be too sure that last line. Did you peep J-Ro's verse on that Fred Wreck anti-war song... Tash carries J as a group, but it was a political verse and decent at that.....
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Post by: Jome on June 15, 2003, 04:10:30 PM
Tash and Pharoahe are REAL comparible.... U Can't deny that!  Punchlines & metaphors are the bread & butter for both... Subject is what your gettin twisted.... And I got the the Pharoahe album and all 3 Organized joints so don't trip... And don't be too sure that last line. Did you peep J-Ro's verse on that Fred Wreck anti-war song... Tash carries J as a group, but it was a political verse and decent at that.....


Pharoahe is a several times more complex writer than Tash, and Pharoahe is not really about punchlines, he's about methaphors and hidden meanings..

As for J-Ro's verse on Down with U.S..... if you listened to his flow, dope..
But his lyrics..  :-X
This isn't J-Ro's homefield.. anybody could have wrote that.
Bush and Saddam needs to take it to the ring..
Bush talkin bout where all my gangstas at ?
Lmao.
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Post by: Jim Jones on June 15, 2003, 04:19:55 PM
Big Kain is that really Sly Boogy?? How long ago was that picture taken. The guy fat as fuck compared to the pictures on his album. He must have lost major weight or gained it if it was taken recently.
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Post by: BigCain on June 15, 2003, 07:21:03 PM
Big Kain is that really Sly Boogy?? How long ago was that picture taken. The guy fat as fuck compared to the pictures on his album. He must have lost major weight or gained it if it was taken recently.

Yea man, thats the Homie Sly... A few people have hit me with that... Part of it is because the picture has been distorted.. But it's a year old and he was a few LBz heavier... That picture on the Album was a illustration tho...
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Post by: BigCain on June 15, 2003, 07:36:56 PM



Pharoahe is a several times more complex writer than Tash, and Pharoahe is not really about punchlines, he's about methaphors and hidden meanings..

As for J-Ro's verse on Down with U.S..... if you listened to his flow, dope..
But his lyrics..  :-X
This isn't J-Ro's homefield.. anybody could have wrote that.
Bush and Saddam needs to take it to the ring..
Bush talkin bout where all my gangstas at ?
Lmao.

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I jus brought up the J-Ro verse, because of the subject matter... The lyrics were wacc enough that I believe J wrote them... Now you say Pharoahe is more complex den Tash.. Well OK, Canibus and Nas are more complex than PM, but I bet U say PM has better lyrics than those two... Bottom line lil Homie, I been with hiphop since 81 & still get new music every week & PM would be on my East Coast Starting 5, Iv'e been down since "Fudge Pudge" before your hip hop time and I'm sayin CaTash got crazy lyrics!!  U ain't debated any of my direct points, but U Have done a good job of bringin up new ones.. Holla