West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Cali4nia on June 14, 2003, 08:25:54 PM
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Yo all i'm saying is i'm tired of listening to the same rappers i was listening to on 93
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who snoop ;D
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Word!
it's time for e-white, roscoe, crooked-i, and the other talent to get their shine...
but on the real, it's not just the young artists... it's time for the west to stop the bullshit. The west aint bringning shit and all they do is beef... it's time for dpg and tha row to step off each other's toes and realize that the only way to bring the west back is to do it together. It's time for the bay to get recognition... e-40 ain't enough, he can't sell well... it's time for the west to respect themselves and get good shit out... the suge and dpg beef is too old to care about...
like Snoop said... " i created your shit, i can end it"
basically, he is speaking about us fans... their hot cause we love em, we can end that... give us what we want... we created you... not vice versa
-Big BpG
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We got hella new/good rappers. Juss that noBody wants a lissen to or support em.
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We got hella new/good rappers. Juss that noBody wants a lissen to or support em.
It's frustrating to see a miliion different Southern MCs (who are mostly wacc) get big airplay and video play when the west has dope ass cats like:
Sly Boogy
Crooked I
E-White
Dr. Stank
Lunch
Defari
Ras Kass
Dirty Birdy
Balance
Locksmith (now known as the MTV rapper)
and several others who are struggling jus to get started....
I mean if my boy Killer Mike can blow up with "A.D.I.D.A.S" then DR. Stank should be big like 50 by now...
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turn off that commercial radio bs and start tuning into the underground cali scene homie
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www.servnu151.com
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i kinda agree then i kinda dont cuzz tha old ppl are for sure to drop tight shyt. im out!!!
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Word!
it's not just the young artists... it's time for the west to stop the bullshit. The west aint bringning shit and all they do is beef... it's time for dpg and tha row to step off each other's toes and realize that the only way to bring the west back is to do it together. It's time for the bay to get recognition... e-40 ain't enough, he can't sell well... it's time for the west to respect themselves and get good shit out... the suge and dpg beef is too old to care about...
i agree...its about the music..not political bs...i know this has been going on for years not just in hiphop but all industries but the music and the fans are losing out...
...check how many albums we have been deprived of over the years because of some record label beef, wither between themselves or the artists or family etc etc.
The well established out there such as dre,snoop,warren,mop,wu...the list is endless do not have to push to be heard perhaps as hard as some newbies do because they already have a fan base..people hanging out for the new albums by them...
...the "new" guys who perhaps record many albums that never see the light of day (ya know who i meanin) that really need the promotion behind them and the industry as a whole.
We need the good music..fucc the age of the artist....age aint nothing but a number (s'what r kelly said anyways) ;)
pz
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We got hella new/good rappers. Juss that noBody wants a lissen to or support em.
It's frustrating to see a miliion different Southern MCs (who are mostly wacc) get big airplay and video play when the west has dope ass cats like:
Sly Boogy
Crooked I
E-White
Dr. Stank
Lunch
Defari
Ras Kass
Dirty Birdy
Balance
Locksmith (now known as the MTV rapper)
and several others who are struggling jus to get started....
I mean if my boy Killer Mike can blow up with "A.D.I.D.A.S" then DR. Stank should be big like 50 by now...
Now that's true!
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the reason why the west isn't doing anything is becuase 99% of the artists on the west refuse to let the genre evolve .....if we didn't let it evolve in 92 with the chronic everything would sound like "dopeman" , but nothing in the westcoast has evolved past 96' , that's why you got dre and snoop running away from the west coast and doing things with everyone else. everyone wants to remake the chronic or doggystyle no one wants to do anything new......snoop , dre, nate , and now finally quik are all artists who were there from the begining and by their choice of work you can tell they're sick of being in this rutt of THE SAME thing
let's face it all the westcoast is gang banging , too much bass and cheap funk , no one is really trying to make anything new
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agree 100%...do many peps living in the past and will never give anyone a chance...some will never get over snoop, dpg, pac...the old death row era where the west ruled...until they can get over it...the west will never be the same
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[size=8]IV Life![/size]
hehe... hope this "1.4" mixtape turns out good.. hopefully theres errm.. 'something that benifits both wcc+ivlife with that' you'll see if it works out! :)
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E-White's a tite ass new rapper,let's hope Snoop will let his album be dropped...
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The West Coast got enough talented 'new' rappers like Crooked I and all that. Their talent is not the problem, the problem is the production. I don't feel a lot of the West Coast lately because of the production, not because of the artists. The only reason why I support the West is because of the veterans like Snoop, Dre and Warren G. At the moment the Dirty South is better than the West.
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the reason why the west isn't doing anything is becuase 99% of the artists on the west refuse to let the genre evolve .....if we didn't let it evolve in 92 with the chronic everything would sound like "dopeman" , but nothing in the westcoast has evolved past 96' , that's why you got dre and snoop running away from the west coast and doing things with everyone else. everyone wants to remake the chronic or doggystyle no one wants to do anything new......snoop , dre, nate , and now finally quik are all artists who were there from the begining and by their choice of work you can tell they're sick of being in this rutt of THE SAME thing
let's face it all the westcoast is gang banging , too much bass and cheap funk , no one is really trying to make anything new
i dont feel you a 100% on that one. I mean you all say that the old westcoast rappers are refusing to let the genre evolve, and maybe thats right but just look at the mainstream world to... I mean MTV and the media is all over Eminem, 50cent, Redman, Nas and all of them eatscoast cats, and you know that it aint eazy to blow up without the media´s support.
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i dont feel you a 100% on that one. I mean you all say that the old westcoast rappers are refusing to let the genre evolve, and maybe thats right but just look at the mainstream world to... I mean MTV and the media is all over Eminem, 50cent, Redman, Nas and all of them eatscoast cats, and you know that it aint eazy to blow up without the media´s support.
dude! it has nothing to do with where they're from, it's about what the people like!
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...the problem is the production. I don't feel a lot of the West Coast lately because of the production, not because of the artists...
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i dont feel you a 100% on that one. I mean you all say that the old westcoast rappers are refusing to let the genre evolve, and maybe thats right but just look at the mainstream world to... I mean MTV and the media is all over Eminem, 50cent, Redman, Nas and all of them eatscoast cats, and you know that it aint eazy to blow up without the media´s support.
dude! it has nothing to do with where they're from, it's about what the people like!
Yeah, but people dont know shit about westcoast artist like Sly boogy, roscoe and Ras Kass out side the westcoast area, cuz the media is all about eminem and 50 cent and rappers like that. My point is that i dont feel the fact that the 99% of the artists on the west refuse to let the genre evolve, i also feel that its something to do with the media to if you want a artist to blow bigg... But thats just my opinion, so its all good...
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It's easy to blame older artist or the "Industry" not supporting new artist... But the bottom line is rap has grown as a business and I Believe that we, the HipHop Community, have lost control... When The Chronic, Doggystyle, Amerikkas Most, NWA, Ice T and them blew up back in the day, they were successful because WE bought the Albums!! Or the Homie bought it and you dubbed it.... That was the only way to hear it!!! No internet, Kay Day went away and NO hardcore Hip Hop was ever on the radio... WE controlled success... Now Hip Hop success is defined by "radio play".. So don't get mad at Dre for tryin to change to keep up wit the game.. Ie.. 50 & Em... Everyones goal is to have that next "played once every hour song" So everything sounds the same, built for radio... If you want good musik, then stop bullshittin and start supporting our artist at the record store... If you download like me, then still buy that shit when it drop like me.. Stop complainin... We decide if The LIKS go Gold or copper. We decide if Deathrow folds or not. We hold Sly Boogy's future success in our hands... Buy that shit or be quiet and settle for the Snoop & Eastcoast Dre stuff we get, because they are two of the few from the west who playin the game like they need to in order to make loot... I would love to get a LIKS, Ras, Boogy, Stank, Pharoahe, Mos Def, 6 Deuce, Devin, De La, Mitchy or Quick album every month, but the company ain't gonna drop one every year like Ja & Jigga & Snoop because they want it to make money... Lets start buyin our artist shit more often and if we do make it so the companies make $ off the KAMS & Talib Kweli's of the world, then we will be much more happy... Or go listen to Hot 97, K104, Power 106 or go log in to Kazaa and stop blaming our artist when they just tryin to get paid... Holla
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I mean now that dre and snoop with their own labels they should be introducing new rappers plus since the row is at it again and DPG doing their thang and SICK WIT IT and all the other bay area labels it could happen man.
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IV Life, when they drop. We havent heard anything yet.
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People need to start supporting the west or else the westcoast will give up.
When they get good money, they wanna come back with another album. If their sales are disappointing, they'll give up.
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People need to start supporting the west or else the westcoast will give up.
When they get good money, they wanna come back with another album. If their sales are disappointing, they'll give up.
they need to bring out catchy singles!
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Don't get me wrong. I've been doing many topics about chicano rap lately. The chicanos are the future of the west coast. Don't get me wrong, but the new Daz album is the best I've heard from a black rapper for quite a while now. The eses are always coming with dope releases these days. Check these rappers...
Snapper
Mr. Capone-E
Mr. Criminal
Cuete
Youngster
Lil Demon
Slow Pain aka Lil Savage
Wicked Minds
Mr. Chino
Old Town Gangsters
Seven
Brownside
Old Town Mafia
Mr. Danger
Spanish Fly
Ese Rich Roc
Proper Dos
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I could add tons of rappers now. Check them out. I promise that you don't get disappointed.