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Title: Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Jome on June 18, 2003, 01:40:51 AM
Thought I'd make a new topic, not to ruin the other thread..
IMO, he needs better beats, but still he have some dope production on his "Judgement Day"..

My favorites on the CD:

3. California featuring Truth Hurts, Butch Cassidy & Noelle
Produced by Focus

5. Ridiculous featuring Saigon
Produced by Levelz

6. Live At The Wake Up Show Pt. 1 over "Grindin" beat
OG produced by The Neptunes

7. Freestyle #1 over "React" beat
OG produced by Erick Sermon I think..

10. Jackin' 4 Beats
Says produced by King Tech, but it's freestyle over R.Kelly/Jay-Z, Dr.Dre, Just Blaze, Neptunes-beats..

11. Clickclick (Booyaka) featuring Saigon
Produced by DJ Babu

21. Freestyle #3
On the beat from Red Spyda (50 Cent)


One Focus-beat, one Babu beat, and one Levelz beat..
That's the 3 tracks that I liked on this CD from inhouse producers.

I don't think it's without reason that Sly digged out beats from Neptunes, Dr.Dre, Red Spyda, Just Blaze, Erick Sermon, and more..

I would like to see Sly get beats from Alchemist, Fred Wreck, Battlecat, Evidence.. what he got now isn't good enough, imo.


Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: S.G.V. on June 18, 2003, 01:43:41 AM
king tech isnt good enough? babu either? both babu tracks were bangin!...i thought every beat he had on it was bangin...he would sound good over almost any beat...if u ask me...he has a jayo felony esque flow and sound at times...and jayo can wreck any beat...
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Jim Jones on June 18, 2003, 01:54:46 AM
king tech isnt good enough? babu either? both babu tracks were bangin!...i thought every beat he had on it was bangin...he would sound good over almost any beat...if u ask me...he has a jayo felony esque flow and sound at times...and jayo can wreck any beat...

i agree, every beat was bangin. That album doesn't lack production at all. Tech laced sly good and so did Babu. Focus has the illest beat tho. "Ridiculous" is ill. So its "Click Click" which was done by Tech. I  can't complain. Every track is nice on tha album.
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Jome on June 18, 2003, 01:59:33 AM
...if u ask me...he has a jayo felony esque flow and sound at times...and jayo can wreck any beat...

Yeah, I agree on that.
Jayo might rip any beat, but he still needs better beats too..
lyrics + beats makes for longevity.
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: CharlieBrown on June 18, 2003, 02:09:44 AM
Well Babu is one of the best at the moment IMO, maybe get a couple from him for his next LP. Jake One and Focus are now part of Dre's team so look for them to have improved for his next LP as well. I don't really think King Tech is that good of a producer and wouldn't mind if they never work again together, unless Tech comes up with some real fire. Sly shouldn't work with him just for the sake of working with him. I would like to hear him over some Alchemist, a hard Fredwreck beat & Evidence production as well.
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: S.G.V. on June 18, 2003, 02:14:45 AM
Well Babu is one of the best at the moment IMO, maybe get a couple from him for his next LP. Jake One and Focus are now part of Dre's team so look for them to have improved for his next LP as well. I don't really think King Tech is that good of a producer and wouldn't mind if they never work again together, unless Tech comes up with some real fire. Sly shouldn't work with him just for the sake of working with him. I would like to hear him over some Alchemist, a hard Fredwreck beat & Evidence production as well.
ur sleepin on the Anthem beats!!!
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: CharlieBrown on June 18, 2003, 07:42:58 AM
^^No i'm not, i consider them nice, but not good enough to be put on an album if you want a classic. If you want an unremarkable album then, yes, his production is fine. Are you honestly trying to say that a beat made for a radio show on a station played in Cali is gonna be on the same level as a song made for a dope album?
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Wild_Elmo on June 18, 2003, 08:40:36 AM
The beats on judgement day were good, but he could use some better prodcution

i'd like to see him work with battlecat, that would be the shit..
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: S.G.V. on June 18, 2003, 09:37:31 AM
^^No i'm not, i consider them nice, but not good enough to be put on an album if you want a classic. If you want an unremarkable album then, yes, his production is fine. Are you honestly trying to say that a beat made for a radio show on a station played in Cali is gonna be on the same level as a song made for a dope album?
lol...man...those are made as drops....for the show...but theyre also made for the albums they put out...Anthem 7 is a hot ass beat...its better than most of the shit out now...i aint lookin for no classic...im lookin for a good album with strong production...and king tech brings the heat....
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Lil Jay on June 18, 2003, 10:03:22 AM
Yea I dont see how you can say he needs better production. I like every single beat on there. Ridiculous, Fucwitdis, One Night Stand, and of course the other tracks that have been around for almost 2 years now like Walk With my Dogs or Fatal Mistake..And Sly himself said this aint a real album, its more of a mixtape album, cause if you think about it, this album was recorded in a time span of 3 years, and thats alot. But wait for the real album on a major label later this year  8)
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: S.G.V. on June 18, 2003, 10:22:11 AM
Yea I dont see how you can say he needs better production. I like every single beat on there. Ridiculous, Fucwitdis, One Night Stand, and of course the other tracks that have been around for almost 2 years now like Walk With my Dogs or Fatal Mistake..And Sly himself said this aint a real album, its more of a mixtape album, cause if you think about it, this album was recorded in a time span of 3 years, and thats alot. But wait for the real album on a major label later this year  8)
thank u mr. knight rider...
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Wild_Elmo on June 18, 2003, 10:24:22 AM

i wonder how much judgement day sold
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Lil Jay on June 18, 2003, 10:45:10 AM

i wonder how much judgement day sold


Jackshit..I say like 5.000, maybe 10.000 at best. Think about it, the only place where you can get it is Friscostreetshow.com and some Mom&Pop stores..its just fucked up...
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Hydro on June 18, 2003, 10:48:17 AM
Naw, he doesn't need better production. I think that he ripped up every beat on Judgement Day. And let's face it, I'm sure that he expected not to sell that much so why pay for some real top notch production?
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: gFuNkA on June 18, 2003, 12:11:09 PM
dunno,...hes a dope rapper and spits some nice shit, but it sounds like he raps too much just OVER the beats, not WITH the beats (if you know what i mean). i would like to see him coming with more flow. the combination of sly´s rapflow and the beats could be better. anyway, hes talented and im looking forward to his next release.
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on June 18, 2003, 12:50:18 PM
I think there were some tight beats on there, but overall IMO, the production was about average.
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on June 18, 2003, 02:34:25 PM
I think there were some tight beats on there, but overall IMO, the production was about average.
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: funkstylz on June 18, 2003, 02:54:00 PM
man sly boogy is such a tite rapper , his freestyles get me like  :o , definate better production could get him some $$
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: IKON on June 18, 2003, 05:19:16 PM
Damn SGV u hit it right on the head, i knew sly boogy sounded like somebody at times and that somebody was Jayo felony ;D

about his beats, hmmm hes more underground so i dont think he needs better beats, BUT it would be nice to see him work with other producers especially a guy like Fred Wreck or DJ Quik :o
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: Jome on June 18, 2003, 07:02:32 PM
I knew yall would agree..  8)
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: funkstylz on June 18, 2003, 07:03:40 PM
fa shigado
Title: Re:Sly Boogy... does he need better production ??
Post by: THEREALSHIT on July 03, 2003, 01:34:44 PM
OK ONCE AGAIN I MUST BREAK SHIT DOWN.....THE REASON SLY IS RAPPING OVER MADE BEATS IS BECAUS ETHEY WERE MADE FOR AN EAST COAST MIXTAPE......NOW FREDWRECK,ALCHEMIST AND QUIK ARENT ON THE TRACKS IS BECAUSE MONEY AND BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHO SLY BOOGY IS AND THEY DONT WANT TO LACE UP LIKE THATJUST YET.....BATTLE CAT IS TO BIG ALSO FOR A NEW UNDERGROUND ARTIST LIKE SLY...BUT IM SURE IF BATTLE CAT LACED HIM UP SLY WOULD MURDER IT...NOW I DONT KNOW IF SLY SOUNDS LIKE JAYO ESPECIALLY AFTER LISTING TO THE CALIFORNIA REMIX. SLY HAS SOLD OVER 10,000 BUT HE IS NOT CONCERNED WITH THE LOOT. HE JUST WANTS CALI LOVE........SO IF TOWER OR ANY PLACE DOESNT WANT TO PICK IT UP FUCK IT......AS LONG AS YOU KNOW WHERE TO GET ITS ALL GOOD......SLY IS DOPE AND CAN ROCK ANY BEAT..HIS PERFORMANCE IS TIGHT AND HE IS GONNA DO THE DAMN THING.........KING TECH IS A DOPE PRODUCER...YOU MEAN TO TELL ME SUMMERTIME ISNT A BANGING AS TRACK? JACKIN FOR BEATS WAS PRODUCED BY TECH BECAUSE HE PUT THE SONGS TOGHETHER AND MADE IT SOUND TIGHT.....ALSO WHEN JACKIN FOR BEATS CAME OUT BOTH THE FREEWAY AND RKELLY SONGS WERE NOT OUT....SO THEY GOT JACKED WAY BEFORE IT EVEN GOT PLAY...