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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Trauma-san on June 19, 2003, 07:47:14 PM
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WEll, I just saw Smackdown. If yall watched last week, the Big Show was superplexed off the top rope by Brock Lesnar, Big Show weighs PROBABLY 550 or so, and when they landed, the ring was rigged to collapse. Brock Lesnar's been F-5ing the big show (picking him up on his shoulders, then throwing him down) frequently, and that is a superhuman feat, I think. The guy HAS to weigh 550. They advertise him as weighing 500, but they've been saying that since he started, and back then he probably only weighed 450 or so, now he's got to be over 5, he's too damn big. His Gigantism is starting to kick in, and he's getting slobby fat.
Now, at the end of Smackdown tonight, Big Show got out of the F-5, and got off Brock's Shoulders. Team Angle ran down and started beating up Brock, and then Kurt Angle ran in for the save... he hit the Big Show with the Angle Slam (basically, lift him a little off the ground with your shoulders, and fall backwards dropping him down with your weight). So, it wasn't really THAT big of a deal, but Angle did probably have the whole 550 or so pounds on him for a couple seconds. Not as big of a deal as Brock picking Big Show up on his shoulders, but still, a big damn deal, since Brock probably weighs 300, and Kurt Angle's only at about 260 or so.
Well, Team angle and the Big Show both started beating up on Kurt Angle and Brock... so, HULK HOGAN (Mr. America) runs to the ring, for the save. He rips off his shirt, and throws big show to the ropes, kicks him, and knocks him down. Hogan then starts motioning to the crowd that he's gonna body slam the Big Show. Big Show turns around, Hogan tries to pick him up, they knock him off, beat him up, etc. etc. etc.
Now, the question is... this is obviously leading to a Mr. America/Big Show feud somewhere down the line. Will Hogan, or Will Hogan not be able to Body Slam him? I don't think they would have had Hogan motion that he was gonna do it, unless they intend on trying to pull it off.
17 Years ago, Hogan weighed about 300 when he fought Andre the Giant, and he pretty cleanly body slammed him, Andre weighed probably 600 pounds or so, maybe even more at the time. Nobody really knows, I guess, but you can look at Footage and see that andre was so incredibly out of shape, that he was much, much bigger than the big show is right now. To most kids who were around then, that was a pretty damn big feat, Hogan actually picked that fucker up and body slammed him. He said later on (years later) on wcw one time backstage that he ripped his back muscle when he did it (he's got a little dent in his wing when he flexes, that he says is from slamming Andre).
He's been talking about Slamming Andre for years now, he always exagerates and says "When I picked Andre The Giant, God Bless His Soul, All 700 Pounds Over the Top Of My Head, Brother"... well... Andre might have weighed 700, it's possible, but that's probably an exxageration... and he didn't get anything other than Andre's feet over his head... ... anyways, he's been talking about this, and they've been playing up Hulk's physique lately (when Mr. America came back, they said before he debuted that he was huge, had an amazing physique, and was almost 7 feet tall, Hogan's 6'7)... Since they've been playing up how strong Hulk is, you think they'll have him slam him? Do you think he CAN slam him? I'm not sure.
I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say since they had Hogan do the whole arm wrestling thing last week where he whipped McMahon's ass, and since Hogan's talking about his 24 inch patriots again, and since he's beefed back up (he's probably back up around 290 or so)... I'm thinking that Hogan will try to slam the Big Show, and he'll probably pull it off. What do you guys think? Any chance? No way?
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Keep in mind too, that Hogan's main purpose here is to play off the Hogan character of the 80's, so if he COULD slam the Big Show, it would be a huge deal. The Hogan/Andre match where Hogan slammed him is considered by tons of people to be the biggest match of all time (from an entertainment or money making point of view). It would be a parallel to that, and would tie in with Hogan beating McMahon, and the Hogan/Piper stuff they've been doing, and Hogan/Rock billed as the best of the old vs. the best of the new, etc. etc.
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Of course he'll slam him. The Big Show will just jump.
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Of course he'll slam him. The Big Show will just jump.
LMAO
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the ring was modified to break, that shit was planned
brock lesnar is pretty strong, dude cut his leg open on a boat propellor and refused pain medication
hogan wont slam him either way, dude is 50+, he will snap if he attempts it
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Goldberg have "jackhammered" big show once .. im talking about 500 pounds over his head... thats something brock lesnar or hulk hogan never will be able to do..
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He was a lot lighter when Goldberg did that to him
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He was a lot lighter when Goldberg did that to him
lets assume that he was 450 pounds.. thats still HELLA impressive... i mean.. his whole body was above goldberg's head...
check it out:
http://members01.chello.se/ibo/goldberg_huge_jackhammer_on_big_show.wmv
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I realize Goldberg Jackhammered him at about 450.
Lex Luger bodyslammed Yokozuna at about 400.
Brock Lesnar f5's Big Show all the time, and he probably weighs 550 now.
Kurt Angle gave him the Angle Slam at 550.
Hogan slammed Andre the Giant 17 Years ago at 600 or more.
I'm just saying, do you think they'll have Hogan slam Big Show? I think they will. Hogan could do it, easy, In my opinion, a body slam is easier than an F5, because Big show will be supporting most of his weight on Hogan's knee.
I also realize the ring was rigged. I mentioned that in the first post. Back to the topic.
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I realize Goldberg Jackhammered him at about 450.
Lex Luger bodyslammed Yokozuna at about 400.
Brock Lesnar f5's Big Show all the time, and he probably weighs 550 now.
Kurt Angle gave him the Angle Slam at 550.
Hogan slammed Andre the Giant 17 Years ago at 600 or more.
I'm just saying, do you think they'll have Hogan slam Big Show? I think they will. Hogan could do it, easy, In my opinion, a body slam is easier than an F5, because Big show will be supporting most of his weight on Hogan's knee.
I also realize the ring was rigged. I mentioned that in the first post. Back to the topic.
jackhammering 450 pounds takes much more power than bodyslamming or f5'ing 550 pounds
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Did I say it didn't? Damn, we're not arguing about Goldberg, we're talking about whether or not Hulk Hogan can bodyslam the big show.
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Did I say it didn't? Damn, we're not arguing about Goldberg, we're talking about whether or not Hulk Hogan can bodyslam the big show.
he shouldnt have any problem doing that.. but off course, the big show is gonna "give him a hand"
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actually (an i hope sum1 is listening) Brock Lesnar did a vertical suplex on the big show at judgment day 2003 so there....(i don't like goldberg ,mr.kick bret hart in the head an end his career ,mr. i'm the best thing to happen to wrestling)
an actually the F5 is really hard to do cause once u get the guy up there u have to basically throw him over ur head (no easy task) usin ur right hand ,an a bit of a "pop" with ur shoulders .sure the guy has to help u a bit but that's the case in all wrestling moves....
i hope i have proved that brock lesnar is just as strong as goldberg
i rest my case
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you guys know that wrestlin is fake, its a show, and its really gay, i watched it wen i was like 12
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if i remember correctly......when goldberg jackhammered the bigshow he walked around with him......i was impressed at the time.....
i dont watch TOO much wrestling anymore....but i see enuff to know that Brock dude is massive....and so is Hulk Hogan still.....Hulk can still do it.....but a bodyslam is no big deal these days......unless hulk can hold him and walk around.....but i doubt we will try that considering last time i checked he sports one of them belts to support ya back.....but a good ol body slam is prolly not out of the question.....
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you guys know that wrestlin is fake
GASP. Elaborate, I'd never heard that. I thought it was real. I thought the undertaker was really dead, and I thought Stone Cold really did just wait until Monday at 9 to beat up the guy that threatened him last monday at 9, instead of just going to the guy's house.
I thought Brock really was picking a 550 pound fat ass up on his shoulders. I guess since it's fake, they do it with ropes or something. When Hogan slammed Andre, since it was fake, I'm sure it was really just CGI back in 1987. When Goldberg lifted the big show over his head and walked around the ring, it was probably just Yoda sitting in the front row levitating him... since it's fake.
Kurt Angle didn't REALLY pick the Big Show up last week... instead, he had little tiny fans in his shoes that made him float.
Hulk Hogan doesn't REALLY have 24 inch arms, or have all the muscles we see; it's not really his actual chest, he's wearing a rubber suit to make him LOOK big.
Hulk doesn't really lift weights; since wrestling's 'fake', all those videos of him busting his ass in the gym are doctered; he's really relaxing in his den.
He doesn't REALLY adhere to a strict diet to keep that amazing physique; he's actually a slobby fat ass like half the rest of america, and has Lyposuction ever monday afternoon so he'll look good for the camera.
When he broke his knee 'faking' it in the ring a couple years ago, he didn't really have surgery. The microscope that filmed the inside of his knee being scoped was actually just really good animation drawings (I think they had dreamworks do it).
Kurt Angle didn't REALLY win the Olympic Gold Medal. The olympic committe was paid off by Vince McMahon to just give Kurt a really good storyline.
After all, it's "fake"... glad you clued me in, now I know how much bullshit it is.
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I think he can/will do it. But I hope he doesn't hurt himself by trying to hard to prove he's still the man.
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you guys know that wrestlin is fake
GASP. Elaborate, I'd never heard that. I thought it was real. I thought the undertaker was really dead, and I thought Stone Cold really did just wait until Monday at 9 to beat up the guy that threatened him last monday at 9, instead of just going to the guy's house.
I thought Brock really was picking a 550 pound fat ass up on his shoulders. I guess since it's fake, they do it with ropes or something. When Hogan slammed Andre, since it was fake, I'm sure it was really just CGI back in 1987. When Goldberg lifted the big show over his head and walked around the ring, it was probably just Yoda sitting in the front row levitating him... since it's fake.
Kurt Angle didn't REALLY pick the Big Show up last week... instead, he had little tiny fans in his shoes that made him float.
Hulk Hogan doesn't REALLY have 24 inch arms, or have all the muscles we see; it's not really his actual chest, he's wearing a rubber suit to make him LOOK big.
Hulk doesn't really lift weights; since wrestling's 'fake', all those videos of him busting his ass in the gym are doctered; he's really relaxing in his den.
He doesn't REALLY adhere to a strict diet to keep that amazing physique; he's actually a slobby fat ass like half the rest of america, and has Lyposuction ever monday afternoon so he'll look good for the camera.
When he broke his knee 'faking' it in the ring a couple years ago, he didn't really have surgery. The microscope that filmed the inside of his knee being scoped was actually just really good animation drawings (I think they had dreamworks do it).
Kurt Angle didn't REALLY win the Olympic Gold Medal. The olympic committe was paid off by Vince McMahon to just give Kurt a really good storyline.
After all, it's "fake"... glad you clued me in, now I know how much bullshit it is.
LOL.. i was wishin someone would have trauma explain the aspects of wrestlin bein fake.. thanks rodney
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this is to any1 who says wrestlers don't get hurt:
stand on ur bed,an look at ur feet ,now jump an land flat on ur back an keep ur head tucked in .now repeat 10-20 times ,go to bed an tell me how that feels in the morning.
now realise that wrestlers do it on a much harder mat.
an then tell me that wrestlers don't earn their living.
an if ur not convinced still (because u won't try what i suggested) check out indy federations(MLW,NWATNA,ROH) or japanese wrestling ,peep the moves those mofos use (especially in japan) one false move an ur opponent is paralysed ,or if u don't want to watch entire matches search on kazza for a a move called "burning gammer" :o
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Or read some wrestling Autobiographies. Hulk said in his first training session, his trainer broke his Leg on purpose. Then laughed, Hogan came back after it healed, and they didn't tell him that wrestling was rigged for a YEAR! They beat his ass in the ring every day for a year, before they told him that he didn't really have to hurt the other guy, lol. He got so mad he quit.
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blah blah blah, its still gay, and for little kids
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Lex Luger bodyslammed Yokozuna at about 400.
Hogan slammed Andre the Giant 17 Years ago at 600 or more.
Bollocks
Yoko, even in '94 was always heavier than anyone else. Andre the Giant was never 600 either. 600 pounds is about 40 stone. Nobody weighs that. The WWF has always exagerrated weights. Yoko at his biggest was 550. The Big Show currently is probably 400.
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Yokozuna was 6'4. The big show is over 7 feet. You think Yokozuna weighs 150 pounds more than the big show? You've GOT to be kidding me.
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Big Show is well over 500lbs
Anyone who says it's easy to F5 the Big Show, then you must be stoned because how many people have lifted 500lbs on their shoulders walked around and then spin him off his shoulders. Not just anyone can do that, not Goldberg not anyone but Brock Lesnar. Goldberg wouldn't be able to give the Jackhammer to the Big Show now, I mean look at the problems Goldberg had trying to Jackhammer Jamal.
There is no one out there like Brock Lesnar.
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Yokozuna was 6'4. The big show is over 7 feet. You think Yokozuna weighs 150 pounds more than the big show? You've GOT to be kidding me.
Survivor Series '96
Watch it
Tell me Yoko isn't at least 150 heavier than the Big Show is now
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It's 8 inches. I know that's not an english measure, LOL, but someone who's EIGHT INCHES taller than someone else weighs a hell of a lot more.
Look at Kurt Angle/Hogan. I mean, Hogan's not THAT damn much bigger bodystyle than Angle, Angle's a big boy.
Angle's 6'4, he weighs 220 pounds.
Hogan's 6'7, and weighs 275 pounds.
There's a 55 pound difference in THREE INCHES. At one time, Hogan weighed 330, That's 110 pounds heavier than Kurt Angle, in THREE INCHES.
I think it's easy to say that Big Show is 150 heavier than Yoko was. Maybe Yoko was bigger when you saw him, but that wasn't when Luger slammed him. It doesn't matter anyways, I'm not saying it's a strength comp. between Hogan and Luger, lol, I'm just saying can Hogan do it.
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I told you Hogan could do it straight away, because Big Show will jump, just like Yoko jumped when Luger slammed him.
It's ridiculous to say that Hogan and Angle's body style is the nearly the same, Hogan is much bigger. Are you saying Big Show is heavier than Yoko ever was?
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500-600 lbs is nothing for people who work out.........especially ESPEICIALLY FOR those kinda guys .
i mean check me out i'm like 5'8 probably close to 200 lbs and i've been weightlifting casually since 99' and bench 295 and squat 470
for someone who is 30 or 40 something who has worked out longer, harder , better, and who is bigger than me to lift a guy like big show or yoko is really not as suprising to me. i mean lord knows i could never do it,lol. but when you think how hard those guys work out and how much they're use to picking up 200-300 lb guys day in and day out. you would expect the bigger guys like Brock Lesner, Kane, and even hogan to do shit like that
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iirc yoko has been the heaviest person in the WWE/WWF @ any point in time, my brother has a book with all these sorts of useless facts in 'em, i'll see if i can dig it up
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500-600 lbs is nothing for people who work out.........especially ESPEICIALLY FOR those kinda guys .
i mean check me out i'm like 5'8 probably close to 200 lbs and i've been weightlifting casually since 99' and bench 295 and squat 470
for someone who is 30 or 40 something who has worked out longer, harder , better, and who is bigger than me to lift a guy like big show or yoko is really not as suprising to me. i mean lord knows i could never do it,lol. but when you think how hard those guys work out and how much they're use to picking up 200-300 lb guys day in and day out. you would expect the bigger guys like Brock Lesner, Kane, and even hogan to do shit like that
Yeah, I agree, it's still an amazing feat to me, though. You don't really think about it much, but these pro wrestlers are literally the biggest, strongest guys in the world. I'm sure there's people around that are bigger and badder, but Hulk Hogan's a big sombitch, Brock Lesnar's probably one of the strongest men alive.
I mean, I'm 6'1... 190 pounds. Hogan's 6'7, 275 pounds, that's CRAZY, if you were standing next to him, you'd think he's a monster.
I saw on his dvd, some girl met him, and she was like "I can't believe you keep yourself in this kind of shape", Dude is RIPPED to be that old.
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ya hogan is one in shape mo fo
also the guy who played the OG hulk in the 70's (he's on the king of queens now) is like 55 and is fucking RIPPPPPPED too, dude could still win some body building awards
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Yeah, he was in Hulk, I couldn't believe he was still that big.