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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Halu Sination on June 26, 2003, 05:35:01 PM
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this was taken from hitemup.com..its a good interview and spice 1 hits some valuble points..........
Posted by Christopher Wanzelius on Tuesday, June 24 2003
In a recent interview with Davey D, Spice 1 spoke out on Ja Rule, Jay-Z, Nas and Nelly's biting of Tupac. Below is an excerpt:
Davey D: What about everybody right now eating off Pac?
Spice 1: Everybody eating off Pac - Ja Rule, Nelly, all them cats. What pisses me off is the rap crowd and the audience should say something about it. I can't, I mean I've been there and I've seen already. What pisses me off is they know damn well that Pac did not like Nas or motherfucking Jay-Z. And they're playing the song on the radio. That shit is outrageous and it makes me mad as fuck. It makes you wanna take one of their motherfucking beats and rap about them on it.
But the thing is, if I did that, then the West Coast is hated on that much. If I did that shit, I probably wouldn't even get heard. If I die and someone do that shit to me [steal my beats and rap about me knowing I didn't like them], I swear if there’s a way for me to come back, I would just to serve their ass.
I already told my homeboys. I said, "If I die, nigga, and any of these niggas that I didn't like make a song try to be like me, whoop their motherfucking ass. Check these niggas. They know God damn well Pac didn't like them niggas, man.
Motherfuckers like Pac, Pac liked to have beef with you. If you had beef with him, he'd take that shit till you bow the fuck down. [He was like], "Them niggas didn't bow down, so fuck them niggas." If I still feel like, "Fuck them niggas," I still feel like Pac feels. Fuck them niggas. Even though he's dead and motherfuckers are saying, "Let him rest in peace." Fuck that shit, that ain't got nothing to do with niggas biting his shit. They're trying to get over on his name and make money off his name. And niggas like me who knew him and who kicked it with him and was actually in the studio with him together, know what I'm saying? That pisses me off like, y'all don't even know my homeboy. Y'all are some bitch ass niggas for real. How can you make a song about a nigga when you ain't even been in his face and kicked it with him?
That's why you ain’t seen Spice 1 rapping about other motherfuckers. If you do, believe me I’m looking for that motherfucker with a pistol too. If I'm rapping about him, believe me I'm looking for him too. That's why I don’t have time to fuck with these little cats out here. They can't fuck with the '85 gangstas, you know what I'm saying?
I don't even consider what they're doing today as rapping. They're making the shit for the little kids. The kids are liking it and that's what's cracking. They're doing that, but I ain't planning to get down with that.
The shit that I talk, I can walk through any motherfucking 'hood and niggas will respect me. Because I look like I'll whoop a motherfucker's ass. These young ass niggas look like if they threw their hardest motherfucking punch they wouldn't even hurt a fly. I mean, they don't look like they're going to get down like that. So, why are they spitting that shit then complaining when someone come at them on some gangsta shit? They wanna complain to the crowd like, "Oh, we're just rappers and entertainers." Rap about what you do, not about some gangsta shit thinking motherfuckers ain't gonna test you. That's why I got like six gun cases in three different states and shit, because I keep my motherfucking heat with me.
A lot of these motherfuckers, their past ain't add up to what they are now. Or what they're saying they are now. Like 50 Cent came right out to Ja Rule and said, "You ain't a gangsta. You never popped nothing, nigga."
It's hard to respect this music shit now, you know? You can't look at this like it's real. You have to look at it like it's a cartoon. It's real that we're watching it and it's funny, but it's not real. These niggas ain't real, 'cause a real motherfucker you would know right away. Like 50 Cent, I'ma tell you a joke he said, only a gangsta would know this joke. That motherfucker said on 106 And Park, when he got on 106 And Park and they asked him about a gun case, you know what the motherfucker said? "It wasn't me, I didn't do it." He said those exact words. That's gangsta comedy right there. Half the motherfuckers, when he said that, weren't laughing. Me, when I saw it, I was sitting in front of the TV laughing my motherfucking ass off.
You got real motherfuckers like that, then you got other cats playing around.
When I made "Peace To My Nine," I really had the nine with a loaded clip at every show, performing on stage and running through the crowd. The point was that we didn't give a fuck. That was the point. I would go in the bank with my motherfucken pistol.
Music has just turned into a movie.
Hell yeah, it's a joke right now. The poetry is gone. They won't let us have any more Tupacs. There's no more 'cause they won't let us have them. There's Tupacs all 'round this motherfucker, but they won't let us hear them 'cause they're scared of what that motherfucker is trying to say.
I remember when Pac was like, "I just sold six million records. The President only got 2 million votes. Shit, I could run for President," and that scared the shit out of [the establishment].
People shy away from that.
Hell yeah, cause they're scared. I want my daughter to know that the world isn't all peaches and cream and that she's going to go through some shit as a woman, as a black woman. She's going to go through a lot of presidents and a lot of things.
But that's been the history of America, right? Take all the bad things and sweep them under the rug.
That's why I named my album AmeriKKKa's Nightmare. They do not want to see this. I've got money, I've got guns and I'm pissed, you know? They don't wanna see that, you know coming from Oakland, the shit goes so deep with the Black Panthers and everything they don't want nobody to be like the Panthers or none of that where we can get out and speak like that.
My pops was a Panther, you know? I'm the son of a Panther, so my poetry goes deep. It goes deep and it's real, you know? Because my pops used to read poetry to me when I was little, like nine-year-sold and shit and some of the same shit I'm spitting now on my records is poetry he read to me when I was like nine-year-old and all of the shit turns out to be true. I can spit the same shit in 2003.
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damn Spice is a lot more intelligent than i took him for ;D
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damn Spice is a lot more intelligent than i took him for ;D
lol shit is real. he knows what hes talkin bout
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I don't have the Nelly albums or anything, so how is he "eating" off 2Pac?
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i dont know how nelly eats off of pac either. but nelly does eat off of bone thugs. but he admitted he did, so its all good
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Tight interview ,But he's just mad because He cant eat off 2pac like the others did
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Tight interview ,But he's just mad because He cant eat off 2pac like the others did
uh... he DID record tracks with 2pac. i dont understand why he would be jealous of those who fantasize about being 2pac everyday.
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. but nelly does eat off of bone thugs. but he admitted he did, so its all good
other than being black and from the same basketball division , how is nelly eating of bone thugs? if anything bone has been eating off of cypress hill image wise and arrested development who sang and rapped
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some real good points there ;)
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props on the interview. that is one of the best interviews I have read, spice speaks on the real.
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If I die and someone do that shit to me [steal my beats and rap about me knowing I didn't like them, I swear if there was a way for me to come back, I would just to serve their ass.
They can't fuck with the '85 gangstas, you know what I'm saying?
it's a joke right now. The poetry is gone. They won't let us have any more Tupacs. There's no more 'cause they won't let us have them. There's Tupacs all 'round this motherfucker, but they won't let us hear them 'cause they're scared of what that motherfucker is trying to say.
The shit that I talk, I can walk through any motherfucking 'hood and niggas will respect me. Because I look like I'll whoop a motherfucker's ass. These young ass niggas look like if they threw their hardest motherfucking punch they wouldn't even hurt a fly
My favorite excepts from this dope interview..
Spice put it down on that...Real.
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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Tight interview. Good read.
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That whole interview is bullshit. Spice 1 is just jealous he's a nobody and all those people are better/more successful rappers than him. What they're doing is making tribute songs to a dead rap legend, there isn't anything disrespectful about that. 'Pac's beefs ended when he died, Ja Rule, Jay-Z, Nas and those people are just paying respects and acknowledging his greatness, doesn't matter if you were his best friend or never knew him. All that other shit he talked about is bullshit too. You never met 50 Cent, how can you judge him? From just watching him on TV? LOL, negro please.
That was a great attempt at a publicity stunt. Maybe now, his next album will sell more than 10 copies. :)
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He's speakin some real shit right there.
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That whole interview is bullshit. Spice 1 is just jealous he's a nobody and all those people are better/more successful rappers than him. What they're doing is making tribute songs to a dead rap legend, there isn't anything disrespectful about that. 'Pac's beefs ended when he died, Ja Rule, Jay-Z, Nas and those people are just paying respects and acknowledging his greatness, doesn't matter if you were his best friend or never knew him. All that other shit he talked about is bullshit too. You never met 50 Cent, how can you judge him? From just watching him on TV? LOL, negro please.
That was a great attempt at a publicity stunt. Maybe now, his next album will sell more than 10 copies. :)
you consider that paying respect? theyre just making money off of a fucking dead guy. theres a reason the majority of 2pac's friends have spoken up on this matter
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He's speakin some real shit right there.
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That whole interview is bullshit. Spice 1 is just jealous he's a nobody and all those people are better/more successful rappers than him. What they're doing is making tribute songs to a dead rap legend, there isn't anything disrespectful about that. 'Pac's beefs ended when he died, Ja Rule, Jay-Z, Nas and those people are just paying respects and acknowledging his greatness, doesn't matter if you were his best friend or never knew him. All that other shit he talked about is bullshit too. You never met 50 Cent, how can you judge him? From just watching him on TV? LOL, negro please.
That was a great attempt at a publicity stunt. Maybe now, his next album will sell more than 10 copies. :)
you consider that paying respect? theyre just making money off of a fucking dead guy. theres a reason the majority of 2pac's friends have spoken up on this matter
word..
KVB uza big joke...
you talkin like you aint knownin nothin bout spice 1...
he sold enough albums to make a good livin..no reason for him to hate on these fake rap fools because of money..
nice interview..feelin him..all these fools actin like they down wit pac and shit..
fuck em all
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That whole interview is bullshit. Spice 1 is just jealous he's a nobody and all those people are better/more successful rappers than him. What they're doing is making tribute songs to a dead rap legend, there isn't anything disrespectful about that. 'Pac's beefs ended when he died, Ja Rule, Jay-Z, Nas and those people are just paying respects and acknowledging his greatness, doesn't matter if you were his best friend or never knew him. All that other shit he talked about is bullshit too. You never met 50 Cent, how can you judge him? From just watching him on TV? LOL, negro please.
That was a great attempt at a publicity stunt. Maybe now, his next album will sell more than 10 copies.
man please pull your head out of your ass before you say anything else that dumb. None of those rappers, except maybe nas, could ever see spice 1 on the mic. Spice would rip all them to shreds. LMMFAO @ u sayin spice 1 is a nobody and all those other people are better/more successful rappers. Did u smoke some crack before you wrote this? Do u have any fuckin idea who spice 1 is? Just because pop faggets such as yourself choose to listen to that queer as nelly shit, doesn't mean its even half as good as spice 1's music. And payin respect to Pac? Please, give me a break. These mutha fuckas were not even friends wit pac, much less even know him. They are just capitalizing off a dead man, and if you don't see that then your blind.
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Real talk....KVB be smokin more crack than Pookie! ;D
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real good interview ;D 8)
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None of those rappers, except maybe nas, could ever see spice 1 on the mic.
Please. Jay-Z is by far greater than Spice 1.
LMMFAO @ u sayin spice 1 is a nobody and all those other people are better/more successful rappers.
Overall, it's true. He's right, in the big hip-hop picture Spice 1 is a nobody.
I've never seen one of his videos played or heard any of his songs on the radio ever.
payin respect to Pac? Please, give me a break. These mutha fuckas were not even friends wit pac, much less even know him. They are just capitalizing off a dead man, and if you don't see that then your blind.
Snoop wasn't friends with and didn't know Slick Rick but he "bit" one of his songs. So I guess he was capitalizing off of him.
I believe he is jealous of those guys. He was just naming the popular names and sucking up to 50 Cent in the mean time hoping that he hears this and works with him like he did with Daz. How does Nelly eat off Pac? He doesn't, which means Spice 1 is taking alot of shit. Ja Rule is the only one I consider to "eat" off him or disrespect him. Nas didn't do shit wrong either.
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real talk right there
and why would he give props to 50, the biggest of em all if he was jealous..
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Snoop wasn't friends with and didn't know Slick Rick but he "bit" one of his songs. So I guess he was capitalizing off of him.
Slick Rick ain't dead, I think if u actually had beef with someone and he's dead u shouldn't act like that.. of course u should pay him respect if he deserves it but they could do that in a interview or shit, I think the way they do it is definatly for the money
I believe he is jealous of those guys. He was just naming the popular names and sucking up to 50 Cent in the mean time hoping that he hears this and works with him like he did with Daz.
that would make him damn silly, he can't expect 50 to be like "that guy gave me props ima have to do a collabo with him", there's plenty of artists givin him props now days..
I doubt it
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Please. Jay-Z is by far greater than Spice 1.
that is opinion, no point in debating this one.
Overall, it's true. He's right, in the big hip-hop picture Spice 1 is a nobody.
I've never seen one of his videos played or heard any of his songs on the radio ever.
There is many artists who I have never seen their vidz or heard their songs on the radio. You can say this for 95% of all westcoast artists. No way in hell are ja rule or nelly even close to as sucessful as spice 1. Yeah I would say both jay z and nas are more sucessful in terms of popularity, sales, and career. A big reason to this tho, is the consumers. Look at who buys jay z, and nas albums. Many of these people buy all the popular music. They will buy eminem, 50 cent, ja rule, and whatever else is on the radio. But they are not really rap fans. I know plenty of people who don't really listen to rap at all, but they own a couple of rap albums, such as jay z. They like a few catchy songs, but that is about it. They could give a shit about lyrics or what the song is about. Not your avg person picks up a spice 1 album, IMO only people really deep into rap are into him. Not sure if I got my point across.
Snoop wasn't friends with and didn't know Slick Rick but he "bit" one of his songs. So I guess he was capitalizing off of him.
Maybe snoop wasn't friends at the time, but he wasn't enemies with him. And I am sure slick got paid for it too. Pac was fucking dissing nas and jay z at the time of his death. I could be wrong, but as far as I know Pac never ended his beef with them before his death. C'mon man, u know as well as I know this is a ridiculous comparison.
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lol please. spice 1 is jealous? then why is he giving props to 50? and as far as i know, spice 1 doesn't even like 50. when 50 came out spice said he didnt like 50 (because of 50 dissing everyone) but he respected 50's hood credibility.
and snoop took a song from an alive rapper who got paid. jay-z and nas blatantly stole songs from a dead rapper who hated them and made a fucking single out of it. do you think jay-z and nas would try any of that shit if pac was alive? get real.
spice 1 doesnt need to be jealous of success, because he doesnt give a fuck how successful you are. did you know that BIZZY BONE (a friend of pac) spoke up about ja a while back before 50 came into picture? does that mean bizzy is jealous, even though bone thugs have sold more records and have more street credibility than ja rule will ever dream of?
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lmao yeah i'm sure spice is really jealous of them. ::)
having respect is better than being wealthy.
he spoke the real.
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lol please. spice 1 is jealous?
Yes, why would say that about Nelly because I don't see anything that Nelly did to "eat" off of 2Pac, so he just threw the name of a mainstream rapper in there.
then why is he giving props to 50? and as far as i know, spice 1 doesn't even like 50. when 50 came out spice said he didnt like 50 (because of 50 dissing everyone) but he respected 50's hood credibility.
He's giving props to 50 because he's jumping on the 50 Cent bandwagon. And if he didn't like 50 because "How To Rob" I think he's an idiot and can't see that the song is entertainment and a big joke.
and snoop took a song from an alive rapper who got paid. jay-z and nas blatantly stole songs from a dead rapper who hated them and made a fucking single out of it. do you think jay-z and nas would try any of that shit if pac was alive? get real.
Nas made a guest appearance on a 2Pac single, I'm sure the people who put the album together asked him. He thinks 2Pac is one of the greatest, why wouldn't he do it? So did Snoop "steal" from Eazy-E with "Gangsta, Gangsta" cause was dead at the time.
spice 1 doesnt need to be jealous of success, because he doesnt give a fuck howsuccessful you are. did you know that BIZZY BONE (a friend of pac) spoke up about ja a while back before 50 came into picture? does that mean bizzy is jealous, even though bone thugs have sold more records and have more street credibility than ja rule will ever dream of?
No because that's reasonable to say that about Ja Rule, but not if you throw in Nelly and Nas in there.
Maybe snoop wasn't friends at the time, but he wasn't enemies with him. And I am sure slick got paid for it too. Pac was fucking dissing nas and jay z at the time of his death. I could be wrong, but as far as I know Pac never ended his beef with them before his death. C'mon man, u know as well as I know this is a ridiculous comparison.
So dead people should never have thier music sampled because they don't get paid? Snoop "bit" Eazy-E too with "Gangsta, Gangsta". And jacked Marvin Gaye also. What did Nas do other than make guest appearance on Better Dayz and call 2Pac one of the greatest?
I think I heard Suge say one time that Nas and Pac made up before his death, but then again he's not a good source.
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So did Snoop "steal" from Eazy-E with "Gangsta, Gangsta" cause was dead at the time.
So dead people should never have thier music sampled because they don't get paid? Snoop "bit" Eazy-E too with "Gangsta, Gangsta".
Two words....... No Limit
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??? @ ^^^
Also, why didn't Spice 1 say that 50 Cent is "eating" off 2Pac, because that more reasonable than saying Nelly is.
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oh yeah, like 2pac's staff cares about what 2pac would have wanted... theyre just trying to make money. be honest with yourself. do you think 2pac wouldve wanted nas on his album? nas thinks 2pac is the best ever... but do you think pac gave a living fuck about nas? he dickrides 2pac til no end. he fucking mentions 2pac's name in practically every interview, and he took events that happened in 2pacs life and rapped about it.
spice 1 isnt jumping on the 50 bandwagon, BECAUSE HE DOESNT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT 50. 50 wont go and help him out, and spice 1 doesnt give a fuck. and why should he mention 50? every song 2pac song that 50 remade was a fucking mockery of ja and they werent released as singles, nor did 50 give a fuck if he would release it.
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oh yeah, like 2pac's staff cares about what 2pac would have wanted... theyre just trying to make money. be honest with yourself. do you think 2pac wouldve wanted nas on his album? nas thinks 2pac is the best ever... but do you think pac gave a living fuck about nas? he dickrides 2pac til no end. he fucking mentions 2pac's name in practically every interview, and he took events that happened in 2pacs life and rapped about it.
Face it, all Nas did was do a guestspot on his album after they asked, called him one of the greatest writers ever and said he one of the greatest ever. I don't see how that disrespects him. Nas doesn't need 2Pac to make a name for himself or to sell.
spice 1 isnt jumping on the 50 bandwagon, BECAUSE HE DOESNT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT 50. 50 wont go and help him out, and spice 1 doesnt give a fuck. and why should he mention 50? every song 2pac song that 50 remade was a fucking mockery of ja and they werent released as singles, nor did 50 give a fuck if he would release it.
I don't think that 50 Cent is biting 2Pac but just flipping "Hail Mary" is more than anything Nelly has done to "eat off" Pac so why is he saying Nelly's name and bigging up 50?
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Spice 1 is the realest out of any one said in this thread, exclude pac.
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I don't think that 50 Cent is biting 2Pac but just flipping "Hail Mary" is more than anything Nelly has done to "eat off" Pac so why is he saying Nelly's name and bigging up 50?
I dunno what's up with Nelly but giving props to 50 show's Spice is not an idiot who can't see the obvies.. what 50 did this for..
and 50 doesn't make any money outta Hail Mary, they didn't sell it, hiphop fans are hatin on this one anway, and the pop fans will prolly never listen to it cuz it's just on mixtapes
seing this there's no reason for Spice 1 to diss 50
alll I know about Nelly is his singles so I can't speak on him
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Yeah I would say both jay z and nas are more sucessful in terms of popularity, sales, and career.
career ??
you sure?
spice 1 is in da game since 90 at least...
i cant say that bout jay-z or nas...
plus spice 1 sold a lot of albums too over the time..
he might not have the mainstream audience
but the hardcore audience on lockdown...
he's even known around here in germany, in the mature audience..so he definitly made an impact..more than nas ima say...
jay-z & nas are both jokes compared to spice 1..
plus they both tryin to eat off 2pac the most besides ja rule i think..ja rule even got his own hit singles..
cant say that bout jay-z
haha
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he's even known around here in germany, in the mature audience..so he definitly made an impact..more than nas ima say...
jay-z & nas are both jokes compared to spice 1..
plus they both tryin to eat off 2pac the most besides ja rule i think..ja rule even got his own hit singles..
cant say that bout jay-z
haha
This is truely sad.
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Lemme remind everyone that Spice is a platinum rapper.....YES, platinum.....
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Spice 1 even made it on the Source top 100 rappers list or whatever the fuck it is. And he doesn't even have NY tattoo'd on his ass!
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Lemme remind everyone that Spice is a platinum rapper.....YES, platinum.....
yep, didn't Spice go Platinum twice and gold a couple of times w/out much radio play?
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For the record: He went gold with Spice 1, 187 He Wrote and AmeriKKKa's Nightmare...never platinum. Coming up on a decade since he's gone gold.
This Jay-Z line would be directed to someone like him:
And all you other cats throwin' shots at Jigga
You only get half a bar - fuck y'all niggaz
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yep, didn't Spice go Platinum twice and gold a couple of times w/out much radio play?
Much? lol, when waz tha last time U heard him on da radio......Besides I got 5 On it......
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Spice 1 even made it on the Source top 100 rappers list or whatever the fuck it is. And he doesn't even have NY tattoo'd on his ass!
lmao
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he's even known around here in germany, in the mature audience..so he definitly made an impact..more than nas ima say...
jay-z & nas are both jokes compared to spice 1..
plus they both tryin to eat off 2pac the most besides ja rule i think..ja rule even got his own hit singles..
cant say that bout jay-z
haha
This is truely sad.
you have to admit that this is the truth...
i still wonder how anyone wit a lil bid of hiphop knowledge can call jay-z a dope mc
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he's even known around here in germany, in the mature audience..so he definitly made an impact..more than nas ima say...
Well maybe in the German hip-hop game but to say that Spice 1 has made more of an impact than Nas in hip-hop in America is just absurd.
jay-z & nas are both jokes compared to spice 1..
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..ja rule even got his own hit singles..
cant say that bout jay-z
What? Jay-Z doesn't have his own hit singles? Ever heard of "Dead Presidents", "Hard Knock Life", "Big Pimpin'", "Izzo", etc.?
you have to admit that this is the truth...
No
i still wonder how anyone wit a lil bid of hiphop knowledge can call jay-z a dope mc
That's too bad. He's certainly not the greatest and probably a little overrated but still a very dope MC.
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spice 1 made more of an impact to the mature audience in here
than nas does lately...
you're right though, jay-z got his own hit singles...
i was just talkin bout this shitty me & my girlfriend
if jay-z is a dope mc or not is a personal question i think...
to me he is too overated..he got dope tracks no doubt..
but to compare him wit spice 1 is like...ouch..
youknow