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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: M Dogg™ on June 27, 2003, 06:19:13 PM
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When it comes to my hip-hop, I love the real shit, my old school 'Pac, current Nas, hell Mos Def and Rawkus, and M.C. Eiht, D.J. Quik, basically everything that most people consider "real", I just call rap music. Snoop has always been one of my favorites, so naturally when I heard he was working with the Neptunes, I wasn't exactly excited by the move, but I bought the album anyways. A girl I was trying to get with at the time, since it came out on Thanksgiving week, and this was the day after Thanksgiving, listened to my CD and fell in love with the song Beautiful. Later that night, she wanted to listen to the song on repeat, so we did, and made out like a muthaphukka. Since then we had a great friendship, and had a few more adventures as we have circled the bases a few times. But her song has and always will be Beautiful. Since school has ended, I can't stop listening to that song, or watching the video because I think of her all the damn time. The video is in Brazil, and homegirl is from Peru, and always talks about Brazil as her favorite country to visit. The song, the video, I can't believe I like a Snoop/Neptune song this much. I hated the Chuuurch song, but Beautiful I can't get out my damn head since November, and it's late June. Crazy. But I do gotta thank the combination of Snoop and Neptunes for the coming together and making that song, 'cause it started a lot of me educating her on real hip-hop to me. She love Rawkus, and most everything out the DPGC camp that I own. But damn, I just had to write this to all those that say Snoop sold out. Maybe he did, but it helps me with the girls, like Fabolous, and Nelly, only I can actually listen to sold out Snoop. And why should he not sell out, after all, his been in the game 11 years since Deep Cover, his done his job. Let my man get paid, and make more tracks for my baby and I.
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so sweeet.....lol lol Yeah "Beautiful" is a great song but dont forget where u r posting ::)
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so sweeet.....lol lol Yeah "Beautiful" is a great song but dont forget where u r posting ::)
Yup, im expecting all the haters to come in any sec. now.
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so sweeet.....lol lol Yeah "Beautiful" is a great song but dont forget where u r posting ::)
Yup, im expecting all the haters to come in any sec. now.
4get them they are sleeping
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these people here who want everything to be "funk" and "gangsta" probably dont talk to chicks...no many chicks want to listen to brotha lynch hung...they wanna hear whats on the radio...i aint gonna front...ill play whatever a girl likes while im with her...if it gets her in the mood then its a great song in my book....
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haters always hate and sleep. It's all good.
*bumps Beautiful and looks at homegirls picture well writing an e-mail*
I just can't wait 'till my school year starts... ;D
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i never leave it to music to get a girl in the mood, hell i mostly fuck to movies...i've fucked to scary movie one and two, nothing to lose and a whole shit load of others...the only song a remember messing around on was when i was getting head to "keep thier heads ringing"
game is universal....sell out music just sucks....i'm not knocking you, it's cool that you and your girl have a song.
fill in this blank:
"damn this girl i'm feeling is about to come over....oh shit let me pop in my __________ cd to get her in the mood"
you could fill this in with berry white, marvin gaye, jagged edge, boys II men...but one of the last answers should be snoop....
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dogg... it just happened. We was listening to th CD, I had just got it. She like the song, it was on repeat 'cause she asked for it to be, the out of no where. Shit, it was that way with Jayo Felony song Lovely. We are weird, but that was the first track. It was not planned. But for reals, I never knock anyone's music, except Nelly dissing KRS-One 'cause that's disrespectful. But making tracks like Beautiful is cool. LL Cool J had Around the Way Girl, I Need Love, Hey Lover, Pharcyde had Passin' Me By, Mos Def had Ms. Fat Booty... lol... Common Come Close, 2Pac had numorious love songs, and nice tracks. It's all good. Don't hate on an emcees 'cause what they doing. Hell, Snoop/Neptunes can work together as much as they want. I never complain about. If I don't like it, I don't buy it, 'nuff said.
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but one of the last answers should be snoop....
i dont know where ur from...but out here...girls wanna fuck when u throw on "aint no fun"
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I don't mind the track beautiful, I like it. From the church to the palace's beat was wack as fuck tho. The reason I am pissed at snoop, cause he has so much talent all around him, yet he goes and chooses to work with people such as the neptunes. I'll admit, I have no idea what the neptunes soundlike besides the snoop tracks and any other wc tracks I have heard them on. But I also didn't get hooked on rap from the neptunes. Why would I ever ever want to hear a Neptunes produced snoop track over a warren g, dre, daz, soopafly, fred wreck, battle cat, meech wells? On paid da cost snoop had no warren g, dre, or daz tracks. maybe 1 soopafly track, and one or two of the others. And fuck yeah I would take a g-funk beat over a neptunes beat anyday. I don't rely on Snoop Dogg to get me laid, I listen to him for entertainment.
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. I don't rely on Snoop Dogg to get me laid, I listen to him for entertainment.
neither do i...but when ur in lyin it bed...wit a girl...and u throw on a cd...i dont think ud wanna throw on westside connection...
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. I don't rely on Snoop Dogg to get me laid, I listen to him for entertainment.
neither do i...but when ur in lyin it bed...wit a girl...and u throw on a cd...i dont think ud wanna throw on westside connection...
Hahahaha. No you dont ;D
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lol lmao
i think "beatiful" is a pretty dope track and yes its better than the other song the neptunes produced for him
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anybody of the haters explain plz what is a "sell out" !!! and if u cant then shut the fuck up... snoop is an artist not a clown for u and what u wanna listen to... making music is still a job not a hobby... and like every job u have to work wit people.. and if the neptunes are cool to work wit snoop can work wit em... i love doggystyle... but i dont think ptctbtb is a wack album because its not g funk only... there are fuckin tight songs on it... everybody talkin shit about snoop must work wit dre... he must work wit ....... thats fuckin bullshit... hi tek (i miss that bitch) is a fuckin tight producer... but it's not g funk... so if u just have this little horizon that u can only excist wit g funk then u are stuck in 93... ever thought about being an artist ? they dont wanna do the same shit everyday... they re lookin forward to get to a next level or they are tryin to do somethin else... look at dr dre.. chronic -> 2001 its another style but is it wack because it is another style ? i say NO...
and what the haters dont realize is that it is called music BUSINESS... so u need money to do it and u do it to get money... sell out is just bullshitting like someone does "real" music or "turned pop"... every underground rapper doin it real... but is he a sell out when someone want him to bring his music to all people ? is he sell out if he gets a deal and makes music for more people than just a few like when he was underground ? music is a type of bringing a message to people... if nobody listens to ur music u cant deliver a message... and if u track is not hot nobody listens to it... u cant compare 93 doggystyle wit the times today... there are so many artists today so u have to take steps to make ur music again the one everybody wants to listen to (not only the g funk fans from 92 & 93)... so i think jut think about ur music taste and stop talkin bullshit about snoop or any fuckin other artist... if u dont like snoop over neptunes dont buy it... but stop hating somebody for doin his job... he is a musician... he can work wit whom he want when he want... that doesnt make him a better or worse artist...
peace & out
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i use 2 HATE the beutiful song coulnt even listen 2 it... and so it gets popular and played on the radio and my girl starts singin it ALOT and im like that song sounds tite, it sounds like Snoop, wut song is it? and sheslike Beui\tiful im like oh i hate that song and then she kept playin it and it stuck on me from then
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for those of u that think beautiful is a better song than Nuthin but a gthang, well ok than, its your opinion. If u think snoop sounds better over a neptunes beat than a dre or warren beat, well than u must be some happy mutha fuckas. I bet your also looking forward to the neptunes, eminem, 50 cent to be on the 213 album, cause we all know warren, nate, and snoop couldn't make a classic w/o them. As a matter of fact u changed my mind. I hope snoop does radio/mtv hits for the rest of his life. I want puffy to exec produce his next album, and then next up I would like jermaine dupri to exec produce. Fuck snoop ever rapping over a good beat by fred, warren, dre, battlecat, daz, meech, etc. I wanna hear him over from tha church to the palace type beats. Oh Weee, I can't wait for a Nelly/Snoop collabo, or a fuckin Justin Timbalake snoop collabo. What the fuck could be better than that. Go Neptunes!!!! Maybe someday warren g could learn to produce like that, after all who wanna hear some shit like This DJ when you could have a hit like From tha Chuuch to tha Palace? Good work neptunes, can't wait to hear you on the Spice 1/Fabolous collabo album.
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these people here who want everything to be "funk" and "gangsta" probably dont talk to chicks...no many chicks want to listen to brotha lynch hung...they wanna hear whats on the radio...i aint gonna front...ill play whatever a girl likes while im with her...if it gets her in the mood then its a great song in my book....
That's the most intelligent thing you've ever said, for real. Music's always been about women, people who don't understand that are dreaming.
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these people here who want everything to be "funk" and "gangsta" probably dont talk to chicks...no many chicks want to listen to brotha lynch hung...they wanna hear whats on the radio...i aint gonna front...ill play whatever a girl likes while im with her...if it gets her in the mood then its a great song in my book....
That's the most intelligent thing you've ever said, for real. Music's always been about women, people who don't understand that are dreaming.
i say intelligent things all the time...u just gotta pull ur head out ur ass a few more times to see it...
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That's the most intelligent thing you've ever said, for real. Music's always been about women, people who don't understand that are dreaming.
Keep bangin your Elton John
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nice post playa, still wont shut the fuck up outta haters cuz haters will always remain, bitch ass niggaz will always remain, but yeah i dont gotta problem with neptunes n snoop workin together, they makin hits and neptunes are makin sick beats for alot of cats so i cant hate........
plus most these kats in wcc dont even know the meanin of a sellout, must have heard someone say it one time in skool or sum shit and jus cought onto their own thing.........it makes me laugh when i hear ppl so n so sold out, nigga shut the fuk up until u dont who what sellin out is.......
peace
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nice post playa, still wont shut the fuck up outta haters cuz haters will always remain, bitch ass niggaz will always remain, but yeah i dont gotta problem with neptunes n snoop workin together, they makin hits and neptunes are makin sick beats for alot of cats so i cant hate........
plus most these kats in wcc dont even know the meanin of a sellout, must have heard someone say it one time in skool or sum shit and jus cought onto their own thing.........it makes me laugh when i hear ppl so n so sold out, nigga shut the fuk up until u dont who what sellin out is.......
peace
C'mon man give me a break. I respect your posts and your opinion, but this I just ridiculous. I luv snoops music, always have. Doggystyle is my favorite album of all time, snoop is one of my favorite artists. I have banged the shit out of that album more than any other album. I even like Paid the cost quite a bit. I like it better than the last meal, and da game. I even like the song beautiful. I think snoop flows awesome on from da chuuch, but the beat is very wack. But to say I am hating, and don't know what I am talking about? C'mon man, I am telling it how it is. The only bias that I have is I don't listen to much rap outside of the westcoast scene, but I listen to everyone in cali. But I do know good fucking music when I hear it. And to say that you would rather hear snoop on a neptunes beat, rather than a dre, warren, fred, daz, etc. beat is just bullshit. Everyone on this fuckin forum knows that snoop sounds best over a Dr. Dre beat.
Tell me this:
What would you prefer: 213 album produced entirely by Warren G, or half produced by warren G and half by eastcoast producers?
Would Snoop be such a hit today if he didn't have such hot dre beats to come out on?
What is your favorite snoop album?
What songs do u think Beautiful and From da Chuuch are better than out of these snoop songs:
entire doggystyle album
nuthin but a g thang
deep cover
murder was the case rmx
21 jump street
the wash
bitch please
bitch please II
Hennessy and Buddah
Lay Low
Still A G Thang
G'D Up
Who Got dat Fire
My Heat Goes Boom
Do the neptunes make better beats than Dre? than Warren? Fred wreck? Battle cat? Daz? Soopafly? DJ Quik? Meech Wells? Big Hutch?
Snoop came into the rap game as a gangsta rapper on death row. He has now worked with: Eminem, Lil Bow Wow, Neptunes, Ludacris, Jay Z, Puff Daddy, Some new asian chick, Timbaland, Jermaine Dupri, 50 Cent (only after he sold millions), Lil' Kim, Mariah Carey, and more. He has put out how many songs with dre in the last 3 years? How many with warren, whom he grew up with? How many with Daz, whom is his cousin?, Master P whom saved his ass from Death Row? Oh, and if u still can't figure that snoop has sold out then go rent Ghost Dog.
Gotta give it up to Tom and Jome who know exactly what this forum is all about.
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yo playa.........i wasnt directin my post at you..........dunno why u wrote a whole post to me, but i didnt read it all but put it this way, i didnt once say u was hatin, im jus sayin in general to many haters on this board and groupies with double standards and another thing......alot of kats dont know what a sell out is on this board...........thats what im sayin, i aint said shit about you directly so chizzil playa.....
by the way.........snoop aint sold out...............whos he begin with..........213,dre and them.............whos he with today, 213, still hollerin at dre n co..............why even do another 213 album if u sold out......i mean jus keep makin snoop dogg lps cuz they the easy way to sell..........warren aint sellin shit, nate aint sellin shit so why do 213? cuz snoop got luv for his homeboys.......nigga if death row wernt paying me, id leave to........his still with the ppl who he started with, still with his roots, jus expandin, i cant hate on anyone whos doin that......and if u think snoop sold out..........y'all need to go live life real and see what a sell out is
peace
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^^^ my post wasn't just directed at you. Its directed to all the people who like snoop working with the neptunes, who think its good that puffy will exec produce his next album, who want eminem and 50 cent and neptunes on 213. I wanna see someone like that honestly answer those questions I posted. And of course snoop will do a 213 album with his homies. I ain't sayin he totally sold the fuck out, and won't work at all with his homies, but he has sold out.
Snoop came into the rap game as a gangsta rapper on death row. He has now worked with: Eminem, Lil Bow Wow, Neptunes, Ludacris, Jay Z, Puff Daddy, Some new asian chick, Timbaland, Jermaine Dupri, 50 Cent (only after he sold millions), Lil' Kim, Mariah Carey, and more. He has put out how many songs with dre in the last 3 years? How many with warren, whom he grew up with? How many with Daz, whom is his cousin?, Master P whom saved his ass from Death Row? Oh, and if u still can't figure that snoop has sold out then go rent Ghost Dog.
Perfect example of how snoop has sold out.
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[when ur in lyin it bed...wit a girl...and u throw on a cd...i dont think ud wanna throw on westside connection...
I dunno man... sometimes you gotta tell 'em to "bow down" ;)
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[when ur in lyin it bed...wit a girl...and u throw on a cd...i dont think ud wanna throw on westside connection...
I dunno man... sometimes you gotta tell 'em to "bow down" ;)
lmao!!! true...ur a foo for that one...
grundy...aint nobody sayin snoop with the neptunes is better than snoop wit dre...theyre just sayin that snoop wit the tunes is not as bad as everyone says...
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I never said that Snoop is better with 'Tunes, I don't know too much about the 'Tunes to make a judgement. I hear their music on the radio. But if they work with Snoop, and go to Brazil and blow up in a bigger way then Death Row, or anyone else, not hate, just love. Nuthin' But A "G" Thang is still the greatest track, Snoop and Dre still are the best team, and 213 is finally coming out. Snoop is trying to blow up E-White, Eastsidaz have two platnum albums, Doggystyle, The Chronic, Doggfather, Dogg Pound, Deep Cover, Bad Azz's Personal Business, Top Dogg, The Last Meal, all I can say is, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM SNOOP!!! Let him do his thang homies.
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Many people seem to think that Snoop working with everyone and doing things differently than what he did on Doggystyle is selling out. What the don't realize is that if Snoop really was making music just to make money, which is what I consider selling out, he would do an album just like Doggystyle, have Dre produce the entire album and the album would sell more than all of his after doggystyle combined. But no he won't do that he won't take a step back in his career. He refuses to live in the past, unlike many people on this board, including myself at times. I would be perfectly happy to see Dre produce and entire Snoop album but that just ain't gonna happen, so i accept it. I loved snoops last album and the main difference between PTCTBTB and those since Doggystyle is that you hear Snoop. The Last Meal was more of a Featuring Snoop album with a few exceptions. Snoop keeps moving forward and i like that
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Man, AcGrundy aka budsmokeronly, I respect alot of what you say, and I somewhat share your view, but Snoop actually has worked with producers like FredWreck, Battelcat and those lately. And the reason why he hasn't worked with Dre in 3 years? Check The Source Interview with Snoop. Dre is one of the busiest producers out there, and as a matter of fact, he hasn't have had time for snoop lately, that's a fact. So it's not up to Snoop wether him or Dre should work together, it's up to Dre. unless of course Snoop's throw up 500 000 $ for one beat. And that's the reason why I've lost respect for Dre lately, he's prioritizing artists like Eve and 50 Cent in front of Snoop. And we all know that Dre wouldn't have the same status as a solo artist, without Snoop. Perhaps as a producer, but no FUCKING WAY as a solo-artist. Come one, who was the rapper everyone wanted to hear from after The Chronic? Who has to take alot of the responsibility for making that album the classic it was?
This is no dikcrydin, as you say, it's facts.
Peace.
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Many people seem to think that Snoop working with everyone and doing things differently than what he did on Doggystyle is selling out. What the don't realize is that if Snoop really was making music just to make money, which is what I consider selling out, he would do an album just like Doggystyle, have Dre produce the entire album and the album would sell more than all of his after doggystyle combined. But no he won't do that he won't take a step back in his career. He refuses to live in the past, unlike many people on this board, including myself at times. I would be perfectly happy to see Dre produce and entire Snoop album but that just ain't gonna happen, so i accept it. I loved snoops last album and the main difference between PTCTBTB and those since Doggystyle is that you hear Snoop. The Last Meal was more of a Featuring Snoop album with a few exceptions. Snoop keeps moving forward and i like that
thats some truth righ there..
if snoop wanted to be a sell-out, his next album would have 2 tracks with eminem, 2 tracks with 50 cent, the whole album produced by dre, the first single should be a track with eminem, 50 AND dre.. .. then you can call him a sellout, cuz he's only after the money...
lets check paid the cost... no eminem, no 50 cent (but he wasnt known then), no dre, a really WACK beat as first single.. couple of avreage beats in the album... how the fuck can that he be a sell-out...AcGrundy.. i respect your opinion.. but right now youre talkin bullshit
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what a touching story ::) ...some of these posts show what nut less pussies some apparently are "music is always been about women" man i cant believe i read that...if you have to lower yourself in anyway like your music selection just to get women....maybe you need to check some of your other areas of your game...i listen to whatever the fuck i want to and i have never had a problem dating good classy women...if they really like you they'll except you who you are....no matter what you listen to
beautiful is an ok song...but as this just proves its for bitches...and so is snoop for working with the neptunes...in case some havent notices while riding his dick so much...snoop is really loosing his credibility
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oh more reasons snoop is a sell out...i was flipping through mtv recently and their was a metallica special on...and all of a sudden there was snoop performing a freakin metallica song...wearing a black metallica shirt..doing anything to try to sell more records..
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^^ what do you think about the run dmc and aerosmith collabo? is run-dmc sellouts too?
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it wasnt a collabo he was just singing one of their songs.