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Title: Timbaland is not a Hip Hop genius
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on July 01, 2003, 12:21:54 PM
I was watching some program on MTV today about the making of Justin Timberlakes album and he said on the program that Timbaland is a hiphop genius. To be honest I totally disagree with that, for me most of his hiphop work has been plain average. I would say that he is an rnb genius because almost all of the stuff he did with Aaliyah was like  :o, and most of his Missy tracks have been pretty dope, but on a hiphop level he hasn't done that much dopeness.
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Post by: Twentytwofifty on July 01, 2003, 12:26:35 PM
I never thought he was that great of a producer for rap music.
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Post by: S.G.V. on July 01, 2003, 12:26:47 PM
i havent heard many beats better than big pimpin or ugly...timbo is one of the first producers to incorporate jungle/drum n bass into his beats...soon enough thats gonna be the trend...hes a genious as far as im concerned....
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Post by: smartass on July 01, 2003, 12:27:44 PM
i never thought he was that great myself.
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Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on July 01, 2003, 12:29:24 PM
Ummm, as a producer's perspective......I believe Timbaland is a genious......He brought in new elements 2 tha game and is setting trends.......Y'all aint knowin.......
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Post by: bez on July 01, 2003, 01:48:04 PM
never really heard noffin of his that was like daaaaaam
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Post by: Reef on July 01, 2003, 02:47:30 PM
Ive never been really amazed by timberlands work. Nothing has ever really made me say.. daam (like bez sed lol). its all down to opinion in music at the end of the day.
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Post by: Genius on July 01, 2003, 02:55:53 PM
Timbo is a great producer. Like Rod said, he sets new trends and brings new shit to the game.
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Post by: CharlieBrown on July 01, 2003, 03:18:19 PM
Timbo is a great producer. Like Rod said, he sets new trends and brings new shit to the game.

Can you and Rod please explain how for those of us who don't listen to him/like him.
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Post by: Genius on July 01, 2003, 04:12:01 PM
No
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Post by: Hatesrats™ on July 01, 2003, 04:16:08 PM

Timbaland & Missy Elliot together equal one of the dopest duo's ever in Hip-hop history.
The Gift of Beat & The Gift of Pen = Hit Recordz.

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Post by: Jim Jones on July 01, 2003, 04:57:17 PM
Timbaland has fallen off. He was in his prime  between 97-00'...His beatz are sounding like shit these days.
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Post by: Darksider on July 01, 2003, 05:40:55 PM
I never thought he was that great of a producer for rap music.
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Post by: _That_Cracka_J on July 01, 2003, 05:41:38 PM
I never really liked much of Timbaland's production.
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Post by: Jome on July 01, 2003, 06:40:09 PM
I believe I have heard about 85% of Timbaland-beats.. and I think he's a genius.
He have set so many trends, it's not even funny.. r'n'b-tracks is now following Timbalands blueprints all over the world.. and his synth-sound, drum-patterns and more is getting studied and copied in all sorts of genres.. including hiphop.

The Westcoast isn't as influenced as the East/South, but in the East, you can find his sounds & techniques everywhere.. from Rockwilder to Just Blaze to Rodney Jerkins to Max Martin to Mannie Fresh to Irv Gotti.. they have all picked up tricks from Timbaland.. just like every credible hiphop-producer have tried to make a "Dre-beat"..

Like Timbaland himself says: "The climax, niggaz be bitin my hi-hats
and following my drum patterns, but I done that!"

I think you can ask about 95% of other producers and artists in the game, and they will tell you that Timbaland is a genius.

The one thing I find strange, is that his wackest beats is selected or given to Westcoast artists.. Snoops tracks on Last Meal was average, Shade Sheists beat from Timbaland.. plain boring..

It's not for nothing that Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, Madonna have asked for Timbaland-beats..
And if you take a look at his C.V. (click link) (http://www.angelfire.com/va3/timheaven/song.html), and actually check out what he's working with.. you will rate him a genius too.
First and foremost in the r'n'b-genre, cuz he revolutionized that, but also in hiphop.
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Post by: West Coast Veteran on July 01, 2003, 06:48:42 PM
I think he's a genius.

When I first heard that stutter-step drum pattern on One In A Million I was like  :-*
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on July 01, 2003, 11:15:35 PM
yeah I consider Timbo a Genius, he did change the sound of hiphop with Aaliyah's "One in a Million" after that everyone was following his step, and some might not agree with that but I think Jermaine Dupri is a Genius too he used to bring good music back in 97 and alot of producers was influenced by his sound
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on July 02, 2003, 08:39:14 AM
i think his a clever muhfucka, i dont really dig alot of his shit but when he brings heat i respect jus like with any other cat cuz i dont hate or dickride..........i aint a timbo fan,like id never buy his shit but his bringin heat lately but overall, aint diggin his style...
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Post by: mauzip on July 02, 2003, 10:09:46 AM
he's aiight
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Post by: PLANT on July 02, 2003, 03:29:43 PM
I never thought he was that great of a producer for rap music.
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Post by: Don Breezio on July 02, 2003, 04:09:26 PM
well...i woudnt consider him a genius...but hes a damn good producer...one of the best...and hes always a dope rapper imo...i love both the tim and magoo albums and the tims bio album is dope as fuck...some of the shit on this discography i cant wait for man
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*Obie Trice
*Scarface
*Tim and Dr. Dre compilation
*Nicole Wray
*Ras Kass
Title: Re:Timbaland is not a Hip Hop genius
Post by: Suga Foot on July 02, 2003, 10:21:53 PM
He is a genious IMO.  He's doin shit that nobody's done before.
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Post by: Don Jacob on July 03, 2003, 12:36:28 AM
as far as hip hop goes......yeah he's a genius, i mean he ACTUALLY creates sound instead of tweaking with someone else's work.

big jake gives Timbo props


listen to jome he hit the nail on the head with his post
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Post by: UnstoppableForce on July 03, 2003, 01:05:56 AM
He is a genious IMO.  He's doin shit that nobody's done before.