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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: P Nelson on July 03, 2003, 08:38:03 AM
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Thats what somebody posted...
posted from raskasscentral.com
EXCLUSIVE NEWS: On June 30th, the Court System handed John Austin (Ras Kass) a 3 year sentence to be served in the California State
Penitentiary. He actually has to serve a certain amount based on what "strike" he was handed. If this is a First Strike, he has to only serve 50%
of the handed sentence with 2-4 months already accredited to the sentence because of his time in the Las Vegas and Los Angeles jail systems.
If this is considered a Second Strike, then Ras Kass will have to serve 85% of the handed sentence. Either way, Ras's management is predicting
that Ras Kass will be released around this time in the Summer of 2004.
To continue to give support for Ras Kass and the Free Ras Kass Movement, I have been in contact with Chino XL. He has agreed to offer any type
of support needed to support Ras Kass in these struggling times. This will be an open invitation for any and all Hip Hop Artists who want to contribute
to a track or project to support the movement. More information to follow once all projects and connections are made and organized.
And something that I did not add to the News: I might be working with Ras's peeps to get in contact with Wendy Goldstein and try to just directly ask her and Capitol Records about what can we do on behalf of Ras to get him out of the contract. He is only still being held on because of his latest insults to the company which they took personally. So if we can offer some form of apology , and an agreement, I think that we can get him out of the contract...NO Lawyers, NO BS, just man to (wo)man convo, and hoepfully I can actually talk to her directly MYSELF. I will let everyone know how this goes. Peace.
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Excellent news.
I've said it here before and I'll say it again; Ras killed someone through drunk driving before, and to carry on driving when drunk after that is sick.
Let him rot.
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Damn...that's bad news for Ras.
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Damn...that's bad news for Ras.
the good thing is that its his 1st strike so he will most likely serve 1 1/2 years then come out on parole
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Damn..true shouldnt have done it but on a selfish note...
...maybe no more rass music for a while! :'(
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"I've said it here before and I'll say it again; Ras killed someone through drunk driving before, and to carry on driving when drunk after that is sick. "
^^^true true..i like ras but for such an intelligent MC he sure is dumb.
"...maybe no more rass music for a while!"
maybe he'll record an album in jail , a la X raided (doesn't he record his album from jail?)
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Anyone with Ras's alcohol problem does not need jail, they need help. I should know, I grew up around alcoholics and drug addicts my whole life. When a problem gets as bad as I read Ras Kass's in XXL, they need help. Having an addiction does not make you less of a person. Hell Bill Clinton smoked weed, I saw on a TV rerun back in 1992 that he said he wish he would have just said yes, he smoked weed... lol, instead of his politically correct statement I didn't inhale. President George W Bush admitted he used to do crack, and now he is president. The addiction does not make the person bad, and judgement over the addiction does not either. An addiction is a personal problem, that a person needs help to get out of. Ras is an alcoholic, he needs a place to dry himself out. After all, in California, drug addicts no longer go to jail, they go to rehab. Though alcoholics don't, yet there are more alcoholics than drug addicts. Addiction is addiction, and people must realize that before jumping on someone. It impairs judgement, and makes a person do things they normally wouldn't do. I like Ras as an artist, but I ain't saying this because I like him, but because I've seen many people villianized because of their addiction. They cannot help it, and all of his friends that noticed it, they should have got him hel along time ago, because an addict is the last person to know they are an addict.
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"I've said it here before and I'll say it again; Ras killed someone through drunk driving before, and to carry on driving when drunk after that is sick. "
^^^true true..i like ras but for such an intelligent MC he sure is dumb.
Many intelligent people make mistakes because of addiction. It doesn't mean they are less intelligent, it means they need help. From what I've read on Ras, he doesn't think he has a problem, like main alcoholics. His friends do, and they should have stepped in.
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Damm, thas kinda real...
But at the same time, if Ras really did kill someone from drunk driving, even though I never heard that one, he deserves some sort of punishment, and he also needs rehab. If somebody drunk drivin killed your mom or brother or whoever, u wouldn't be like "I am sad as hell but let him off because he has an addiction that he can't help" you would be like fuck him, he should go to jail for life just because he took somebody else's life.
I'd prefer an alcoholic to be in jail than to just be out on the street because they won't get alcohol in jail and because they won't be able to drive around drunk.
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Anyone with Ras's alcohol problem does not need jail, they need help. I should know, I grew up around alcoholics and drug addicts my whole life. When a problem gets as bad as I read Ras Kass's in XXL, they need help. Having an addiction does not make you less of a person. Hell Bill Clinton smoked weed, I saw on a TV rerun back in 1992 that he said he wish he would have just said yes, he smoked weed... lol, instead of his politically correct statement I didn't inhale. President George W Bush admitted he used to do crack, and now he is president. The addiction does not make the person bad, and judgement over the addiction does not either. An addiction is a personal problem, that a person needs help to get out of. Ras is an alcoholic, he needs a place to dry himself out. After all, in California, drug addicts no longer go to jail, they go to rehab. Though alcoholics don't, yet there are more alcoholics than drug addicts. Addiction is addiction, and people must realize that before jumping on someone. It impairs judgement, and makes a person do things they normally wouldn't do. I like Ras as an artist, but I ain't saying this because I like him, but because I've seen many people villianized because of their addiction. They cannot help it, and all of his friends that noticed it, they should have got him hel along time ago, because an addict is the last person to know they are an addict.
I understand everything you're saying and you've got a good point. I think the problem I have with Ras, and the reason I can't make myself pity him at all, is that he turned the situation into what was, in all effects, a publicity stunt by bringing his contract and the master copy of his old album into the situation. I didn't agree with that at all. You don't mix a business situation that you willingly got involved in, no matter how shitty, with something as serious as Ras was in. The two situations should never have been brought together.
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First to R-Tistic, I never heard of the killing before, which is why I didn't respond to it. If it is true, then yes jail time is needed, and lots of it, no matter who it is, because that's ending anothers life. But the justice system acted like it did, if it is true which i doubt because it's still manslaughter and a minimun of 6 years in jail even with good behavior.
As for mixing business with his situation. He seemed like a desprate person, knowing that his album which he put his heart in will never come out. Desprate people do desprate things. Simple as that. Was it a wise move, hell no, would I do it, no. But right now, Ras isn't exactly a very good judgement person right now. He needs help, and the state of California is usually good at that. So i hope him the best, and a change of friends if they are not willin to help him. Shit, I bet when he gets paid of a record, they are the first ones to his house to bum some money, but when Ras needs real friends, they are there getting drunk with him.
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Damn...that's bad news for Ras.
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his shit is mad overrated anyway.
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damn that shit sucks.
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We should ask Warren G to make a beat with Dre for the Free Ras Kass song with Chino and others 8).
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Fuck that. How come when somebody commits a crime that you like, everybody starts "OH WE GOTTA GET HIM OUT". No we don't. The man needs to serve his time, there is nothing to FREE here. There's no injustice here. The only hint of injustice is that he only got a friekin' year or whatever he's going to have to serve for murder? If he really did kill somebody driving drunk, this bastard needs to get more like 20-30 YEARS.
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If he really did kill somebody driving drunk, this bastard needs to get more like 20-30 YEARS.
damn right !!
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If he really did kill somebody driving drunk...
For the full low down on this, peep Ras' Evil That Men Do on Soul On Ice. He discusses it there, albeit putting a spin on it that suggests we should pity him. Whatever.
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Let him do some decades.....Murder can't be excused.
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Fuck that. How come when somebody commits a crime that you like, everybody starts "OH WE GOTTA GET HIM OUT". No we don't. The man needs to serve his time, there is nothing to FREE here. There's no injustice here. The only hint of injustice is that he only got a friekin' year or whatever he's going to have to serve for murder? If he really did kill somebody driving drunk, this bastard needs to get more like 20-30 YEARS.
As I said, I doubt he killed someone. that's manslaughter, and that's some years in jail. You do not get off with drunk driving killing. Trust me, you get at least 6. Ras Kass ain't killed no one, because he would still be in jail because of it. Damn rumors.
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Fuck that. How come when somebody commits a crime that you like, everybody starts "OH WE GOTTA GET HIM OUT". No we don't. The man needs to serve his time, there is nothing to FREE here. There's no injustice here. The only hint of injustice is that he only got a friekin' year or whatever he's going to have to serve for murder? If he really did kill somebody driving drunk, this bastard needs to get more like 20-30 YEARS.
he probably got off with manslaughter...my homie did the same thing when he was drunk...he killed a family...no lie...and he got off on manslaughter...the cali court system is strange sometimes...and seein as ras is a somewhat "star" theyll go lightly on him...i think he needs to spend time in jail...if it was me i know id be locked up with the quikness...i love ras' music...but fuck it...like the sayin goes...u do the crime...u pay the time...
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didn't Ras say in Evil That Men Do that the guy hit him back in 91 & his car exploded? haven't listened to that track in a while
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Fuck that. How come when somebody commits a crime that you like, everybody starts "OH WE GOTTA GET HIM OUT". No we don't. The man needs to serve his time, there is nothing to FREE here. There's no injustice here. The only hint of injustice is that he only got a friekin' year or whatever he's going to have to serve for murder? If he really did kill somebody driving drunk, this bastard needs to get more like 20-30 YEARS.
As I said, I doubt he killed someone. that's manslaughter, and that's some years in jail. You do not get off with drunk driving killing. Trust me, you get at least 6. Ras Kass ain't killed no one, because he would still be in jail because of it. Damn rumors.
its not a rumer u dumb mutherfucker dat shit is tru back in 91 he was drivin drunk n he hit another car n dat shit went up in flames n shit don't be takin his side my cozin got killed when his drunk homie drove him home pinche culero
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here is wat ras kas said bout da shit frum his verse n shit
september 1990 drunk drivin the light turned red
somebody hit from the rear i hit the brakes
then lost control of the steering wheel
hit a black camaro and thats all i remember that night
i woke up to a five o flashlight
the car that I hit had exploded on impact
one woman escaped but the driver was trapped he burned to death
manslaughter off cya
liftin weights in the yard and playin spades all day
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And the line before that just adds on to the story that he was drinking first:
"Did a caper, and took my Guinness Stout to the head"
I think he was 17 at the time. I would think that in California that's considered a young offender (it is in Canada and probably most other places) but that's probably why he didn't receive a harsher sentence.