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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: S.G.V. on July 08, 2003, 12:49:24 AM
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i see a lot of people call ja...nelly...and ashanti pop...but i dont see why theyre pop and people like snoop...dre...jay-z...etc arent...ja uses hip hop producers...so does nelly...as does ashanti...ja raps about street shit...nelly does sometimes...and ashanti sings about love...like most pop artists...but...if shes considered pop for that...then r & b shouldnt even be a category...they should just call ALL r & b pop...i mean damn...if its on mtv...its on bet...on the radio...etc...its pop...no matter who the artist is...thats the way i see it...
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i mean damn...if its on mtv...its on bet...on the radio...etc...its pop...no matter who the artist is...thats the way i see it...
Thats true.. I think people call people pop in the rap industry to say they're a sellout or sum shit like that.. But i feel ya.. If your talkin popularity Eminem has gotta be the biggest poop artist ever
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If your talkin popularity Eminem has gotta be the biggest poop artist ever
Is that a deliberate mis-spelling?
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i think people mistake pop and novelty artists
it's not bad to be pop it just means you're popular
i don't consider ja rule, nelly , lil flip, david banner, bone crusher, and all those other trash artists as pop artists , cuz they arn't gonna be Popular 10 years from now, they're all novelty
recent examples are juvenile and silkk the shocker. once the industry changed people lost interest . what DOESN"T make you novelty is if you're still relavent when times change.....that's why peeps like jay-z, snoop dre eminem and such are on a higher level than ja rule and nellly when labled as pop
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If your talkin popularity Eminem has gotta be the biggest poop artist ever
Is that a deliberate mis-spelling?
haha.. whichever way its funny ;D
first thing this thread brought to mind..
this is for the radio so I better chill
they won't play it if I co get ill
eazy - eazy-er said than dunn
people been making tracks for the radio since the year dot... you can spot eminem's radio tracks a mile off.. same with snoop.. (these days if the neptunes made it... last time it was timbaland... he has whoever's on top) its stupid not to... but it really depends how far you take it.
i mostly agree with what jake said :)
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i don't consider ja rule, nelly , lil flip, david banner, bone crusher, and all those other trash artists as pop artists , cuz they arn't gonna be Popular 10 years from now, they're all novelty
i dont know about ja or nelly...but flip will be around...trust...his first album sold more than most major label releases..and he was on an indi...banner will...at least on production...bonecrusher wont...
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as far as mtv and/or credible hip hop fans are concerned.....no they won't
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as far as mtv and/or credible hip hop fans are concerned.....no they won't
credible hip hop fans?...whats a credible hip hop fan?...someone who watches mtv?....LMAO!
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only you would mix the 2 up
::sighs again as big jake has to EXPLAIN SHIT ONCE AGAIN to this lil boy::
them fools won't be POPular on mtv with the Pop fans
and on top of that they won't have no credible fan base
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only you would mix the 2 up
::sighs again as big jake has to EXPLAIN SHIT ONCE AGAIN to this lil boy::
them fools won't be POPular on mtv with the Pop fans
and on top of that they won't have no credible fan base
hahaha....damn man...u really dont know shit...u dont...lil flip sold more than most major label artists on his indi release....THATS A HUGE FAN BASE RIGHT THERE...and Banner sold a lotta records independently...thats how he got such a good deal...please...dont speak on what u dont know...lmao @ u callin me a lil boy...when u dont know what ur talkin about...
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you act like MC hammer and Silkk the shocker didn't do that shit......just cuz you sell good one minute doesn't mean you're going to KEEP selling......
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you act like MC hammer and Silkk the shocker didn't do that shit......just cuz you sell good one minute doesn't mean you're going to KEEP selling......
lmao...he went platinum with the quikness on his major release...foo...u really dont know...i dont even care about sales...but denyin flips fan base is absurd...
and by ur defenition...then u can call almost any high sellin artist a novelty...cuz like u said...one minute ur sellin...the next ur not...
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all i got to say is look at Flip's fan base.......nothing but a bunch of little kids and ignorant rap fans, argument over.
C-murder had the same shit, you don't see his ass no more in the chart do ya? oooooo oh yeah i love how you contradicted youself
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all i got to say is look at Flip's fan base.......nothing but a bunch of little kids and ignorant rap fans, argument over.
C-murder had the same shit, you don't see his ass no more in the chart do ya? oooooo oh yeah i love how you contradicted youself
hahaha...look at flips fan base...thats the majority of the south...so ur callin ALL OF THE SOUTH little kids and ignorant?...lmao...look whos the ignorant one...dumbass...C-Murder aint on the charts no more cuz hes locked up dumbass....lmao...look at who u made urself look stupod...lmao...aint no contradictions...
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really...im glad i cant sleep...i woulda missed this comedy...
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you don't think i know that c-murder got locked up for shooting up some fool ? whatever ::)
all of the south was down with no limit and cash money at a time too......what "genious" those musicians are .....BAD POINT SVG , BAD POINT
and thank god for Outkast and goodie mob and the d.o.c a few of the only good things to come out of the southern crap i mean rap scene
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you don't think i know that c-murder got locked up for shooting up some fool ? whatever ::)
all of the south was down with no limit and cash money at a time too......what "genious" those musicians are .....BAD POINT SVG , BAD POINT
and thank god for Outkast and goodie mob and the d.o.c a few of the only good things to come out of the southern crap i mean rap scene
lmao...bringin up c-murder was a bad point...and spellin my name wrong...WOW! ur a funny...lol...no limit fell off due to master p's unwillingness to change...flip is willing to change with the times...cash money was the same as p...but they changed with the times...and look...theyre bubblin again...so...ur makin bad points...haha...and really...u dont know about the south...ur like the majority...ur the people i made this thread for...ur so stuck in ur bias that the south is wack...that u wont open ur ears...but oh well...thats ur loss...
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your argument is getting way old right now
first of all you're wrong about p not changing, i never saw a more blatant jacker of the current trends than him and his crew dating back to 96'. so you fucked up this argument
cash money as a lable is pretty much on an IV as far as i'm concerned , yeah baby might have a couple hit songs but who else is doing shit on that lable......no one , they tried to blow wayne up again....flop. big deal though my whole point with no limit and cash money is that they're both TRASHHHHHHHHHHH and they OWNED the south A LOT more than flip did and acording to you , you said all of the south is flip's fan base...........well thank you sgv or whatever the fuck your name is, you just proved my point all the south must be is little kids and ignorant rap fans.........i don't know WHY you're defending such crap, next you're going to come out saying that Destiny's child is the all time greatest girl group and that vanilla ice should be considered a GOAT cuz ice ice baby had girls shaking their ass and showing their tits back in 90'......man your shallow
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your argument is getting way old right now
first of all you're wrong about p not changing, i never saw a more blatant jacker of the current trends than him and his crew dating back to 96'. so you fucked up this argument
cash money as a lable is pretty much on an IV as far as i'm concerned , yeah baby might have a couple hit songs but who else is doing shit on that lable......no one , they tried to blow wayne up again....flop. big deal though my whole point with no limit and cash money is that they're both TRASHHHHHHHHHHH and they OWNED the south A LOT more than flip did and acording to you , you said all of the south is flip's fan base...........well thank you sgv or whatever the fuck your name is, you just proved my point all the south must be is little kids and ignorant rap fans.........i don't know WHY you're defending such crap, next you're going to come out saying that Destiny's child is the all time greatest girl group and that vanilla ice should be considered a GOAT cuz ice ice baby had girls shaking their ass and showing their tits back in 90'......man your shallow
lmao...there goes ur bias again...when P blew up...he changed from a west coast style...to a bounce/crunk south style...and he stayed that way til they faded...usin the same beat by the pound productions...they never changed...and wayne is comin up...believe it...hes gettin a big followin underground with his mixtapes...baby and the big tymers threw cash money out there again...so please...and go to the south...ull see people in their 20s bumpin flip...ur bias...u swear the music u listen to is so high and mighty...lmao...how are they ignorant for likin flip?...explain that....its crap to u...because ur bias....and i could careless about destinys child...and u know DAMN WELL..u were singin along with vanilla ice...lmao...u love callin me shallow...yet ur the one makin shallow comments...lmao workin at mcdonalds...haha
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you answered your own question when you asked how are they ignorant when they listen to lil flip......the fact that they listen to him like he's a serious artist proves a point. and i really don't care what the southerners are bumping over there.....you really said it all when you said the south ,academically the stupidest area of the world.
P jumped on the jock of cash money when they came out, now he's trying to be like all these throw back jersey rappers ...
and if i was singing a long to vanilla ice......at least i was like 7 and too young and ignorant to know the difference, not like i was teenager like you still lisening to crap like that ....
and so what if i work at mc donald's, i make more money than most of my friends with "cooler jobs". i'm a fucking student where else am i going to work Kern Medical center?
beaner please you know you lost an argument when you gotta get deeply personal
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you answered your own question when you asked how are they ignorant when they listen to lil flip......the fact that they listen to him like he's a serious artist proves a point. and i really don't care what the southerners are bumping over there.....you really said it all when you said the south ,academically the stupidest area of the world.
P jumped on the jock of cash money when they came out, now he's trying to be like all these throw back jersey rappers ...
and if i was singing a long to vanilla ice......at least i was like 7 and too young and ignorant to know the difference, not like i was teenager like you still lisening to crap like that ....
and so what if i work at mc donald's, i make more money than most of my friends with "cooler jobs". i'm a fucking student where else am i going to work Kern Medical center?
beaner please you know you lost an argument when you gotta get deeply personal
lmao...u do know cali is like 49th in education right?...lmao...really man...what do u got against the south?...haha...damn...u say im gettin personal...but ur throwin the jabs man...u cant take em...then dont throw em...and remember...this is the net...dont catch feelings...oh yea...ima student...but i got a good job...i know plenty of students with good jobs...why are u different?...lol
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cali might be 49th in the nation but the kern highschool district is like 15th in the nation .....
and you can cap on mc'y d'z all you want, i like it there, and it get my car payment payed that's all i care about.
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cali might be 49th in the nation but the kern highschool district is like 15th in the nation .....
and you can cap on mc'y d'z all you want, i like it there, and it get my car payment payed that's all i care about.
all im sayin is...callin the south the "academically stupidest" while u live in cali...one of the dumbest states...is hypocritical and contradicting...and i was just clownin...i didnt know u would get all upset about it(the mcdonalds thing)
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actually the south is the dumbest area ,it has the highest rate of illiteracy . california has the lowest test scores and that's only because most of the people who take those test at the end of the year make designs in on the scan tron, because it doesn't affect their grades at all and is seen as a big waste of time. but of corse you didn't see that on 20/20.
and i'm not getting emotional about my job, i welcome any diss you can throw at me for it, i take it with a grain of salt.
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actually the south is the dumbest area ,it has the highest rate of illiteracy . california has the lowest test scores and that's only because most of the people who take those test at the end of the year make designs in on the scan tron, because it doesn't affect their grades at all and is seen as a big waste of time. but of corse you didn't see that on 20/20.
and i'm not getting emotional about my job, i welcome any diss you can throw at me for it, i take it with a grain of salt.
lmao...were still second to last academically...whether or not "we" look at tests as wastes of time...we rank lower than 48 other states...and a majority of those states are in the south...
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lock this...
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my poop artist wasnt deliberate.. :-[ But i'll leave it there for amusment 8)
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For me, a "pop artist" is a mainstream successfull artist, it dosnt neccesseraly mean he's a sell out or anything, its just that the artist is popular and I cant hate on that
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beaner please you know you lost an argument when you gotta get deeply personal
hey gringo shut da fuck up
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^lmao @ me being a gringo, lol
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pop=popular so take it how u want. i would say anyone who gets regular rotation on the music channels and radio.
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you see ya babies when you can
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And you boys in the club every weekend
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