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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: ghank on July 10, 2003, 08:16:35 PM
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I'm looking at the billboard chart only 5 hiphop albums on the chart the only one I've bought is 50 cent. (months ago). Mack 10 and Ice Cube had it right in a recent interview. To many hiphop artist right now "talking about they girlfriends and shit". Even the 50 cent Ja rule beef is nothing like Tupac, vs Mobb Deep, vs Biggie, etc... Dj quik etc../ The music doesn't even interest me. Not since Dre's Chronic.. Something's missing. I know hardcore hiphop. Similiar to metal music remember Tupac, Danzig, Nine Inch nails, Something about that era that gave you goosebumps. This music today is to popish. I admit to liking Justin Timberlake in which some of his music sounded like early Stevie wonder music. There's no Nostalgia. Noone's making a difference. No real beefs that's innovative. Dre's in it for the money, EMINEM'S all about Haley,. We need a movement in hiphop not just selling records, we need some different innovative hiphop music. Somebody needs to throw Dr. DRE, Trent Reznor, NEPTUNES, DJ QUIK, and some other producers in a studio and come up with some fucked up shit. Cause frankly hiphop right now is boring as fucc.
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lol nine inch nails hard core!
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For sure.
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We need that Ice-T era to re-invent itself and kill all this bubblegum noise. >:(
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Yup, it's boring, your'e right.
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yeah you're 100% correct with what you said, but things go around in circles you got to remember that
in the 60's everyone got lost in that hippy pop crap then along came jimi, black sabbath and led zeppelin to save the day
in the 70's everything was all disco and crap than along came ac dc to kick everyone's ass
in the mid 80s to early 90's you had almost exactly what you have today a bunch of girlish metal music(like rap today) and basically a ocean full of crap and only a handful of good artists
it took Metallica , Megadeath, Anthrax, in the mid 80's, guns n roses in the late 80's then finally nirvana , the last blow really(who gets too much credit for erasing the pop in that era) to get rid of all the crap for about 7 years
right now you're starting to see the build up but it's going to have to take something HUGE like above to get rid of all the shit
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all of music sucks right now
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all of music sucks right now
true
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since the 21st centrury its been all about money, and club hits,radio frendly songs, and not good albums
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It is kinda pooned right now, theres some producers out there that are releasin bangin beats but they are sellin em to pseudo pop artists then they let Pharrel sing the hook and blam, top 40 poptartness. bleh.
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IMO everything changed after Pac & BIG's deaths, cuz after them who was runnin the game? No Limit and Bad Boy.... from then on it just went down hill.
Don Jacob.... in the 80's/early 90's it was Michael Jackson who kicked ass along with the artists you mentioned.... don't forget Nirvana.... :D
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i agree...hip hop is very boring right now...most music is right now...rock isnt boring right now since there is the new style brought on by the white stripes and the hives etc...but i think that is the worst style ever brought to rock music.
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Yeah, hip hop in the charts is just pure crap.
But there's a lot of underground cats holding it down, there' still lots of dope hip hop around.
All the hip hop in the charts is all the same anyway girl on the chorous, rap about bithces, same old video clips, etc. This is the formula that makes $, so other hip hop just gets pushed to the side.
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IMO everything changed after Pac & BIG's deaths, cuz after them who was runnin the game? No Limit and Bad Boy.... from then on it just went down hill.
Don Jacob.... in the 80's/early 90's it was Michael Jackson who kicked ass along with the artists you mentioned.... don't forget Nirvana.... :D
i agree about pac and big's death
but not quite with the michael jackson thing, in a way he IS the ultimate rock star....but at the same time he was fueling the pop machine those other artists were trying to destroy, dont get me wrong i love michael jackson. i didn't forget about him. i just think he was a middle man of it all, cuz after all he DID have Eddie Van Halen up in there on thriller , but at the same time he was friendly to fans of poison and motley crue, know what i'm talking about.....he's like eminem, he IS probably the most talented dude out there and probably the most deserving of his fame right now, but at the same time he does have those n'sync qualities to him.
and i didn't forget about nirvana, they were , like i said, the straw that broke the camels back. and again they would NOT of blown up that big if it weren't for those other bands i pointed out. nirvana is the bomb.com, but they don't deserve the title of "they got rid of the 80's"
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stop whining and expand your horizon. theres plenty of good shit out there right now. you just have to look for it. this topic always comes up on this board and it mentions big and pacs death is the reason..get the fuck off their dick and move on damn..
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stop whining and expand your horizon. theres plenty of good shit out there right now. you just have to look for it. this topic always comes up on this board and it mentions big and pacs death is the reason..get the fuck off their dick and move on damn..
Exactly how I feel, Well put...
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stop whining and expand your horizon. theres plenty of good shit out there right now. you just have to look for it. this topic always comes up on this board and it mentions big and pacs death is the reason..get the fuck off their dick and move on damn..
really? so my horizons arent expanded enough...i probably have the broadest taste in music than anyone else here...and yet i still think music is extremely boring right now...other people maybe need to broaden their horizon's...but mine cant get any broader unless i start listening to midgets singing country music while clog dancing ;D
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stop whining and expand your horizon. theres plenty of good shit out there right now. you just have to look for it. this topic always comes up on this board and it mentions big and pacs death is the reason..get the fuck off their dick and move on damn..
really? so my horizons arent expanded enough...i probably have the broadest taste in music than anyone else here...and yet i still think music is extremely boring right now...other people maybe need to broaden their horizon's...but mine cant get any broader unless i start listening to midgets singing country music while clog dancing ;D
Yeah I feel what ya sayin'
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It aint boring......peep this and give it a chance....... www.servnu151.com
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Yes there is more bullshit in hip-hop than ever but there is more music out there than ever. There is still enough artists making great music. Maybe you just shouldn't buy music and judge it from what you see on BET and MTV or what's on radio.
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yo but why should we have to go digging through artist upon artist to find some1 who puts out dope shit. back in the day u put the radio on there was always a dope joint on the radio. why should i have to go buy 5 shitty albums to get to one good album that aint even close to classic
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i dont know but it just seems that way in every type of style just not hiphop.......
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I think smartass is right and c2knuckles makes a good point there is some good music out there; but, its just not being played. I don't think relate this topic just to the tupac biggie era. Before that you had NWA, Public Enemy. Eminem and Dre did bring some heat for a minute in 2000. But let me explain further. Suge Knight I admit I can't stand the man but without him can you imagine how boring death row would have been. In the late 1990's we had manson and Nine Inch they brought heat, that's what I'm talking about somebody that's feared who brings the heat. Live'n shit up a little bit. Nobody really wanted to mess with Tupac because he had big Suge behind him and parents, establishment, feared manson revolution because of all of the horror shit he was said to have done. Hiphop smashed Chino XL because they knew he was a beast on the mic he did respond to tupac in 1996 with a blistering tune. But, that's another story. I just get tired of Nelly bubblegum shit with no heart or no heat. You feel me. I have much respect for Snoop, Dre, but remember when Ice cube said " this aint no pop cause that sucks and you can new jack swing on my nuts, down with the Niggaz that will bail out I'm platinum bitch and I didn't have to sell out." I miss hard stuff like that.
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parents, establishment, feared manson revolution because of all of the horror shit he was said to have done.
lmao...as true as that is about parents...the only reason i ever feared marilyn manson was one thing...as much as i love his music if i ever went to one of his concerts i would never want to be down by the stage...did u see that footage of him pissing on the crowd? now that shit scares me! lol....but his new song is so dope ("this is the new shit")...and btw if anyone has that album can u tell me how it is cuz i havent decided on if im gonna get it or not yet?
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this is a pretty retarded thread
just listen to what you like and don't follow the mtv trends