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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: topdogg187 on July 13, 2003, 05:09:45 PM
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Which of these two artists do you think had a bigger impact on hip-hop? I think Snoop had a MUCH bigger impact than 50 did because at the time snoop came out he brought rap to the forefront and to the mainstream to fans who only listened to rock and than once they heard snoop they start chantin bow wow wow yipee yo yipee yay and all knew all his words but i think 50 came in at a time when rap is already popularized and he is really bringing nothin new into the rap game all he's doing is selling a lot and he ain't even selling more than snoop did either.
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50 cent hasn't made an impact on rap at all, all he did was sell records
snoop got everybody checkin for gangsta rap and put lbc on the map
one thing 50 cent did do is blew the mixtape scene way up, everybody has a mixtape now
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50 cent hasn't made an impact on rap at all
one thing 50 cent did do is blew the mixtape scene way up, everybody has a mixtape now
There you go. Even Snoop Dogg is influenced by 50 Cent's mixtapes.
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now, its hard to make an impact on hip hop. How can you say something that no one has ever said or ever done.
When snoop came out, he had the best flow ever heard in rap. He still has one of the best voices. Besides that. His impact was huge. He was one of the pioneers to bring westcoast rap to mainstream radio.
50 is a talented artist, but his music in no way changes how Hip Hop should sound. His sound isn't very different, he's not the best rhymer out there, but he brings emotion and heart to his words... he's talented, but he's not making a big impact...
-Big BpG
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This is what I wrote at SOHH with the same topic.
IMPACT/INFLUENCE
Snoop:
Snoop had the bigger impact on hip hop and popular culture.
He had people across the nation rockin' chucks, flannels, khakis, hockey jerseys, etc.
He had copy cat rappers emulating his whole style (eg. Da Brat, Kriss Kross, etc.)
He put "Biyatch", the izzle sh*t, etc. into American language (Even though he did not originate those terms).
He was the first to put gangsta rap into Top 40 radio.
His album influenced and motivated future great MC's (eg. The Notorious B.I.G.)
He was referenced in cartoons of that era (eg. Eek The Cat, episode "Shark Doggy Dogg")
Doggystyle numbers were astronomical for 1993 and unheard of in hip hop until a decade after hip hop has become the biggest music in America (eg. Eminem and 50). Plus Soundscan was NOT used in the majority of the stores across the country other than national record chains. The local stores and department stores (Wal-Mart, K-Mart, etc) did not use the Soundscan yet which makes the numbers even more astonishing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So in all Snoop influenced American music, language, clothing-style, etc.
There must be other sh*t I can't think of right now but I will list them later.
50:
The only trend 50 has influenced is the whole mixtape craze going on across the nation right now.
SALES FIGURES
1993:
Doggystyle sold 803,000 in a time when hip hop was not universal and Soundscan only was available in national record stores and was not established in local chains or national department stores (Target, Wal-Mart, etc.) which would heavily effect sales counts (Source: VH1). 5 months after release it is certified 4X platinum but Death Row does not continue to pay for certifications although VH1 estimates it has sold 8 million copies (Source: Snoop Dogg Behind The Music).
2003:
Hip hop is at it's peak in terms of popularity. Get Rich Or Die Tryin' sells 872,000 just 70,000 more than Doggystyle in it's first week in an era of internet bootlegging. 5 months after release it is certified 5X platinum and rising.
Both are phenomenal sales figures but Doggystyle takes this considering the era.
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how come every fuckin post u make is either tryin to compare snoop 2 some1 else an sayin he is god like or bashing eminem
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50 didnt do shit for hip hop...all he did was make ppl think that just about anybody can be a rapper...which is not true but look at him...he doesnt make that sound like its a hard task. snoop had a huge impact...
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I think Snoop's had a much, much, much bigger impact, for all the reasons stated. 50 sells a lot, but he hasn't changed or influenced ANYTHING with the exception of making mixtapes more mainstream. 50 won't have the longevity that snoop has enjoyed, either. I mean, are you hyped for a new 50 cent album? I'm not.
I said in another thread that Snoop was much bigger than Em was, but nobody agreed. I think 93 Snoop was bigger than anybody's been in rap yet, he blew the hell up, WAYYYYY up.
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how many people are honestly hyped for a new snoop album? i know im not
snoop had a much bigger impact than 50cent which everyone knows, whats the point of this thread?
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I think Snoop's had a much, much, much bigger impact, for all the reasons stated. 50 sells a lot, but he hasn't changed or influenced ANYTHING with the exception of making mixtapes more mainstream. 50 won't have the longevity that snoop has enjoyed, either. I mean, are you hyped for a new 50 cent album? I'm not.
I said in another thread that Snoop was much bigger than Em was, but nobody agreed. I think 93 Snoop was bigger than anybody's been in rap yet, he blew the hell up, WAYYYYY up.
i agree... im out!!!
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how many people are honestly hyped for a new snoop album? i know im not
So I conclude you aren't interested in 213?
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I created this exact thread a few months ago on a different board, so i see where u are comin from?
I compared em because of their sales, their media impact, and their ties 2 Dre. But other than that there is nooo comparison.
Snoops flow was waaaay ahead ofhis time. 50 iscoo but reaaaally nothin special.
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how many people are honestly hyped for a new snoop album? i know im not
So I conclude you aren't interested in 213?
a SNOOP album, not a 213 album
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how come every fuckin post u make is either tryin to compare snoop 2 some1 else an sayin he is god like or bashing eminem
when in my fucken post did i say snoop was god or bashing eminem? u fucke moron i said snoop has had a bigger impact than 50 has had and yeah i do think eminem sucks but that has nothing to do with this thread.
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I think Snoop's had a much, much, much bigger impact, for all the reasons stated. 50 sells a lot, but he hasn't changed or influenced ANYTHING with the exception of making mixtapes more mainstream. 50 won't have the longevity that snoop has enjoyed, either. I mean, are you hyped for a new 50 cent album? I'm not.
I said in another thread that Snoop was much bigger than Em was, but nobody agreed. I think 93 Snoop was bigger than anybody's been in rap yet, he blew the hell up, WAYYYYY up.
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Snoop no doubt had a bigger impact, but ain't no tellin' what 50 does in the future. He'll be big, no doubt, but I don't think he'll ever be Snoop's caliber impact wise.
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Snoop no doubt. They can't even be compared. Snoop made en album for ten years ago when rap was still not mainstream, sold 800k copies the first week and has sold over 8 million copies at all(Heck, that's even more than The Eminem Show!!), and 50 Cent is selling slightly more the first week today where the market is all about hiphop. Plus, Doggystyle was so many fucking times better than Get Rich or Die Tryin. Snoop changed the U.S Pop culture for ever if you ask me, and 50 Cent is just another rapper.
And Snoop has had a career unlike any other rapper, he got six consecutive Platinum solo albums, two platinum albums with Tha Eastsidaz,he's definatly not stopping, in fact that after a decade on top of the game he is still expanding. I think he could be the rapper with most platinum albums of all time, I mean, the only one who has the same numbers as him right now is Ice Cube? I'm not sure, but I think.Both have 8 Platinum albums(group albums included) And Snoop is gon' last longer than Cube, altough I'd like to have Cube on top too.
What's funny is that 14 year old white boys and girls are running around talking about "have You Heard That new artist Snoop Dogg?". He's expanding his listeners too, imagine how big a westcoast album from him could be? The pop groupies who bought Paid Tha Cost would buy it, the westcoast heads who once listened to Snoop would buy it. It could be big.
No matter how wack music he drops, I'd put Snoop above most other rappers like; 50 Cent, Eminem, Nelly, Nas, Jay Z. Snoop's one of hiphop's biggest legends.
Let's change topic instead, is Doggystyle the biggest hip hop album of all time?
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This is a no-brainer, the answer is so obviously Snoop in 93.
And anyone would think that 50 Cent invented the mixtape or some shit, damn mixtapes have been an integeral part of the New York hiphop scene for years, it's just that the west now seems to be realising their use.
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snoop dogg by far. 50 hasn't influenced rap, he just influenced a lot of boy band faggot groupie kids that it is time for them to jump on his bandwagon. And the only reason really is because eminem helped him out a lot, and he got some good club beats from dre.
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snoop dogg by far. 50 hasn't influenced rap, he just influenced a lot of boy band faggot groupie kids that it is time for them to jump on his bandwagon. And the only reason really is because eminem helped him out a lot, and he got some good club beats from dre.
AC Grundy is bacc? im out!!!
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snoop dogg by far. 50 hasn't influenced rap, he just influenced a lot of boy band faggot groupie kids that it is time for them to jump on his bandwagon. And the only reason really is because eminem helped him out a lot, and he got some good club beats from dre.
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snoop... first artist in history to debut an album on the mainstream charts at number one..... In any genre of music
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easily Snoop...what typa Question iz this lol