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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Jay ay Beee on July 15, 2003, 01:58:21 PM
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I don't want to start off another war because it's been done loads, but I came across this on a Football (soccer) message board, and it made me think of the arguments in here. Pages 1 and 2 are America bashing but it gets more two sided after that.
http://195.8.171.32/vb_forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69403&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
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I don't want to start off another war because it's been done loads, but I came across this on a Football (soccer) message board, and it made me think of the arguments in here. Pages 1 and 2 are America bashing but it gets more two sided after that.
http://195.8.171.32/vb_forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69403&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
tha best way to not start a "war", is to not title yur thread..."REAL football vs American Football". lol. To us, "REAL football" IS American football. The otha one...is jus soccer. ;D
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nah i cant read that because its a bunch of fags sayin stereo types about the U.S
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tha best way to not start a "war", is to not title yur thread..."REAL football vs American Football". lol. To us, "REAL football" IS American football. The otha one...is jus soccer. ;D
Done ;)
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tha best way to not start a "war", is to not title yur thread..."REAL football vs American Football". lol. To us, "REAL football" IS American football. The otha one...is jus soccer. ;D
Done ;)
lol ugg....nevamind, change it back!
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i find it funny how british people trash americans for being dumb when our football is A LOT more intellegent than soccer
i love it how you guys say our games are boring to watch becuase theres not enough action, but how much more exciting is soccer when you can take a shit , shower, and go to the store, come back and the score is still 0-0~!
IMO i think americans have a stronger argument here, we have BOTH soccer and football in rotation for the youths of this nation......you guys just have .....soccer, so of course you're going to be bias and get insecure when you compare the 2.
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well i expected a laight from that.. m,y arguments against the nancies were pretty much used up within first 10 posts.. haha
then i learned something
Unfortuanately there is a valid reason for the World Series being called that. Basically it was sponsored in its early days by the "New York World Post". When the sponsors name was dropped the "World" part was kept as it was kind of traditonal.
For once the Yanks were not having delusions of grandeur.
the delusions bit made me laff.. ;D
but i really did learn that the world series isnt a delusion ;)
and the country that invented cricket has no place telling us that baseball is boring....
very valid point... cricket should be outlawd... only coz i live within a mile of one of the countries finest grounds and on match days traffic is a f'kin nightmare :) lol
i also found this one quite funny..This is a true story from my honeymoon in Cancun.
Got talking to an old American couple at a beach bar, who were very pleasant and quite good company.
10 minutes later, their fat teenage son came over. His parents kindly introduced us to his son, who proceeded to ask probably the most stupid question I have ever heard.
"So what language do you speak in England then ?"
I responded with "English...how about you" whilst dad, to his credit gave him a look of pure stupidity before telling him "son, these guys taught us how to speak"
Just a short story, but for me overwhelming evidence that Yanks are stupid
Case closed !!
most of it is the usual anglo vs US banter we know tho..
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i dont really watch soccer, but i dont mind it, football i think takes more strenghth strategy, and is more exiting, but its true, US has both, so....
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i find it funny how british people trash americans for being dumb when our football is A LOT more intellegent than soccer
i love it how you guys say our games are boring to watch becuase theres not enough action, but how much more exciting is soccer when you can take a shit , shower, and go to the store, come back and the score is still 0-0~!
lol
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i find it funny how british people trash americans for being dumb when our football is A LOT more intellegent than soccer
shows u know zip about soccer.
in soccer you dont get little rests.. its 45 mins flat out pretty much unless someone gets injured.
try maintained man-markings and team strategy over a 45 min period with the other team trying to break every facet of that... you have to dynamically think on your feet and trust those around you... footballers have to be intuitive to where their co-players are...
i love it how you guys say our games are boring to watch becuase theres not enough action, but how much more exciting is soccer when you can take a shit , shower, and go to the store, come back and the score is still 0-0~!
IMO i think americans have a stronger argument here, we have BOTH soccer and football in rotation for the youths of this nation......you guys just have .....soccer, so of course you're going to be bias and get insecure when you compare the 2.
yet again your lack of knowledge (ignorance?) speaks for itself..
dont speak on what you dont know!!
when i was at school we played.... now the ones with ** are pro sports over here..
1) ** soccer (played for the school team)
2) basketball (how did u miss this from your 'youths of the nation' speech?)
3a) ** rugby union (i played for the school and town junior team)
3b) ** rugby league (i still cant remember diff from 3a.. lol)
4) american football (but without pads)
5) austrailian rules football - now thats a tough game
6) ** cricket (was on school team too)
we also played tennis, netball, baseball/rounders and golf.. ohh and did some competitive swimming along with all kindas field sports.
diverse?
basketball isnt really pro over here, there are lots of small teams. its the fastest growing sport in the world still.. and yes I know was invented by americans (hurrah)
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word....soccer is a game of instinct. football is strategy like chess.I dont understand if i taught someone from the uk to play backyard football with me they would have fun please belive.
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Dont you ever get tired of this ::)
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Didn't we just go over this arguement?
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Didn't we just go over this arguement?
yes but it is a weekly thing now
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i find it funny how british people trash americans for being dumb when our football is A LOT more intellegent than soccer
shows u know zip about soccer.
in soccer you dont get little rests.. its 45 mins flat out pretty much unless someone gets injured.
try maintained man-markings and team strategy over a 45 min period with the other team trying to break every facet of that... you have to dynamically think on your feet and trust those around you... footballers have to be intuitive to where their co-players are...
i love it how you guys say our games are boring to watch becuase theres not enough action, but how much more exciting is soccer when you can take a shit , shower, and go to the store, come back and the score is still 0-0~!
IMO i think americans have a stronger argument here, we have BOTH soccer and football in rotation for the youths of this nation......you guys just have .....soccer, so of course you're going to be bias and get insecure when you compare the 2.
yet again your lack of knowledge (ignorance?) speaks for itself..
dont speak on what you dont know!!
when i was at school we played.... now the ones with ** are pro sports over here..
1) ** soccer (played for the school team)
2) basketball (how did u miss this from your 'youths of the nation' speech?)
3a) ** rugby union (i played for the school and town junior team)
3b) ** rugby league (i still cant remember diff from 3a.. lol)
4) american football (but without pads)
5) austrailian rules football - now thats a tough game
6) ** cricket (was on school team too)
we also played tennis, netball, baseball/rounders and golf.. ohh and did some competitive swimming along with all kindas field sports.
diverse?
basketball isnt really pro over here, there are lots of small teams. its the fastest growing sport in the world still.. and yes I know was invented by americans (hurrah)
man you're talking to a MEXICAN about soccer.....again you are talking to a MEXICAN about Futbol. I may not like it but shit was apart of my upbringing like hot sauce
45 minutes of non stop running......hmmm take away the ball and what do you got....marathon running, we have just those in every major city in america, also football requires FULL THROTTLE running ALL WHILE trying to be aware of everysingle player around you, not paced running. See when you burst out of the line if you're a running back or a wide reciever you got to be able to counter ANY and all players within a micro second. you got to be aware of 5 300 lb plus dudes who run fast as fuck and you got to be aware of any opening to run through that your fell team mate has made for you.....so in our football we're JSUT as aware, except we have to be quicker with the info. when barry sanders took off from the line he was going full speed like it was the 100 meter race in the olympics......so your argument here is pretty flawed , that's like comparing michael johnson to some kenyon runner.
also here in school we have pleeeeeeeenty more sports to play than just soccer and football....so many it suprises me . anyways my whole point is , american kids/people in general have a stronger more accurate argument here , becuase we're raised with BOTH!
::busts out year book and finds all the sports we got::
we have
soccer
field hockey
basketball
football
lacross
vollyball
swimming
golf
baseball
softball
track and field (various sports, basically olympics)
wrestling
weightlifting
depending on what school you go to, bracket car racing
tennis
bowling
pool(billiards)
depending on if you consider it a sport or not, competition cheerleading
cross country
and oh yeah, not to sound arrogant or nothin but isn't it weird that america is good at just about all these sports.......and the only popular sports here is basketball baseball and football?
hate to think how good we'd be at soccer if it were at least as popular as baseball.
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and oh yeah, not to sound arrogant or nothin but isn't it weird that america is good at just about all these sports.......and the only popular sports here is basketball baseball and football?
hate to think how good we'd be at soccer if it were at least as popular as baseball.
no this point was already made.. brazil is one of the best football nations in the world and its tiny.
i wish i'd quoted a post from the thread jay-ay-bee originally posted... someone made the comment that america wouldnt ever participate in a sport where a 3rd world country has a real fighting chance against thie richest and most powerful. because its purely a game of skill... you can throw away all your expensive stadia and equipment because some 3rd world 'lil ghetto child' will come along with the skill to annihilate you
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**YAWN** ::)
i grew up playing football not american football real football
the one u play with a ball and your feet...the one where the name makes sense...who the fuck came up with the name soccer for it anyway...that's retarded ::)
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**YAWN** ::)
i grew up playing football not american football real football
the one u play with a ball and your feet...the one where the name makes sense...who the fuck came up with the name soccer for it anyway...that's retarded ::)
i dunno where the name soccer comes from.. we always call it football here.. i think the name soccer might be an american thing... lol...
and you're right about the name making sense... just like with baketball and baseball too
so yeah... who the hell came up with the name american-football.. thats messed.. lol
especially since its historically based on top of rugby.
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and oh yeah, not to sound arrogant or nothin but isn't it weird that america is good at just about all these sports.......and the only popular sports here is basketball baseball and football?
hate to think how good we'd be at soccer if it were at least as popular as baseball.
no this point was already made.. brazil is one of the best football nations in the world and its tiny.
Brazil isnt "Tiny" tho. Its much bigger then England, and Sao Paolo is one of the 3 biggest cities in the world with over 30 million.
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i never said we were bigger.. i meant in terms of international power and wealth in comparison the countries who's ass they kick in football. also why all the brazilian players end up in europe = money.
maybe its a good job the US isnt big in international football.. ya'll'd buy up all the players
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i never said we were bigger.. i meant in terms of international power and wealth in comparison the countries who's ass they kick in football. also why all the brazilian players end up in europe = money.
maybe its a good job the US isnt big in international football.. ya'll'd buy up all the players
ahh...i gotcha.
But who cares if they have wealth...they have...SOCCER! lol Glad they got their priorities in line ;D
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soccer is their way to fame and money...
much like being a baller or a movie star or big time rapper is in the US ;)
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soccer is their way to fame and money...
much like being a baller or a movie star or big time rapper is in the US ;)
blah blah...stop defending em lol. Tha US tho...until Bush is through with us, has a good economy. Brazil doesnt. So the idea that their soccer players make millions and millions of dollars, isnt quite as ridiculous as our Basketball players making that.
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eh? but their players do make that kinda money... they come to europe and play (mostly) in the spanish (no language barrier see) and italian leagues..
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eh? but their players do make that kinda money... they come to europe and play (mostly) in the spanish (no language barrier see) and italian leagues..
nawww...thats not what i mean.
I was talking about the amount of money THEIR country shells out. But nevamind, im on tha phone while im typin...and this argument is gonna come out all wrong n jus sound crazy...so fukit lol.
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haha.. yeah ok... hehe.. yeah their league aint making millions.. yet ;)
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haha.. yeah ok... hehe.. yeah their league aint making millions.. yet ;)
naw, i know their country does generate revenue frum their Soccer team....thats why i jus left it alone. lol
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Like players aren't bought in soccer already. David Beckham was jsut bought for something like $48 million.
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Who said they weren't?
Zidane was bought for about $85 million.
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no this point was already made.. brazil is one of the best football nations in the world and its tiny.
i wish i'd quoted a post from the thread jay-ay-bee originally posted... someone made the comment that america wouldnt ever participate in a sport where a 3rd world country has a real fighting chance against thie richest and most powerful. because its purely a game of skill... you can throw away all your expensive stadia and equipment because some 3rd world 'lil ghetto child' will come along with the skill to annihilate you
lol you act like we don't got lil ghetto children who could make a difference(i.e allen iverson).......i'm just saying soccer isn't even emencly popular here yet like it is across the world. if soccer was at LEAST as popular as baseball here , where a lot more potential soccer stars started to kick a ball around more, think about how good the US would be. Our woman's team is fairly good , and it's rare you see a girl playing soccer consistantly through highschool. Our mens team actually is ranked, or was ranked after the last world cup....that's pretty facinating considering. All i'm saying is if soccer was as popular as basketball... :o imagine how good we'd be.
and i hate it when soccer fanatics say "soccer is a game of skill that's why americans don't play it"
if that's true
A) the olympics are a waste of time
B) anyother sport outside of soccer has no skill to it
name any sport america is good at and it uses JUST as much skill
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**YAWN** ::)
i grew up playing football not american football real football
the one u play with a ball and your feet...the one where the name makes sense...who the fuck came up with the name soccer for it anyway...that's retarded ::)
i dunno where the name soccer comes from.. we always call it football here.. i think the name soccer might be an american thing... lol...
and you're right about the name making sense... just like with baketball and baseball too
so yeah... who the hell came up with the name american-football.. thats messed.. lol
especially since its historically based on top of rugby.
my point exactly! 8)
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no this point was already made.. brazil is one of the best football nations in the world and its tiny.
i wish i'd quoted a post from the thread jay-ay-bee originally posted... someone made the comment that america wouldnt ever participate in a sport where a 3rd world country has a real fighting chance against thie richest and most powerful. because its purely a game of skill... you can throw away all your expensive stadia and equipment because some 3rd world 'lil ghetto child' will come along with the skill to annihilate you
lol you act like we don't got lil ghetto children who could make a difference(i.e allen iverson).......i'm just saying soccer isn't even emencly popular here yet like it is across the world. if soccer was at LEAST as popular as baseball here , where a lot more potential soccer stars started to kick a ball around more, think about how good the US would be. Our woman's team is fairly good , and it's rare you see a girl playing soccer consistantly through highschool. Our mens team actually is ranked, or was ranked after the last world cup....that's pretty facinating considering. All i'm saying is if soccer was as popular as basketball... :o imagine how good we'd be.
and i hate it when soccer fanatics say "soccer is a game of skill that's why americans don't play it"
if that's true
A) the olympics are a waste of time
B) anyother sport outside of soccer has no skill to it
name any sport america is good at and it uses JUST as much skill
All soccer is just kicking a ball back and forth, and sometimes someone scores then acts like an idiot.
The US is good at Basketball, Hockey, Baseball and a lot of other sports and last I checked you need skill to be good at these sports.
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Well american football is probably only played in a few countries all over the world and soccer is played in probably every country in the world but since americans invented american football it must be the best sport in the world.lol
ps - can someone tell me why when someones wins the baseball league or whatever theyre labeled as the "world champions"
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Well american football is probably only played in a few countries all over the world and soccer is played in probably every country in the world but since americans invented american football it must be the best sport in the world.lol
ps - can someone tell me why when someones wins the baseball league or whatever theyre labeled as the "world champions"
for the record basketball is the best sport in the world ;)
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Well american football is probably only played in a few countries all over the world and soccer is played in probably every country in the world but since americans invented american football it must be the best sport in the world.lol
ps - can someone tell me why when someones wins the baseball league or whatever theyre labeled as the "world champions"
for the record basketball is the best sport in the world ;)
ive agreed with at least 2 of yur posts in tha last week...
The worlds comin to an end for sure...this should finally answer a lotta argumentz in TOT lol
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The team that wins the Super Bowl is known as the Super Bowl Champions, The team that wins the NBA Championship is known as the NBA Champs, The team that wins the Stanley Cup is known as the Stanley Cup Champions, & the only reason why the World Series has it's name is because a newspaper named the World used to sponsor it.
I haven't heard anyone in sports media refer to any of these Champions as world champions