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Title: Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Lincoln on July 17, 2003, 05:58:01 AM
love him or not, you gotta admit Dre is a bad businessman. Look at his deal with Ruthless, he didn't handle his business properly and Eazy got paid off his records. On Death Row, him & Suge owned it but Suge made all the decisions and Dre had to leave. Now we see whats happening with Aftermath, he lost Eve, Sticky Fingaz, Last Emperor, Hittman, King T, Rakim and maybe more.  
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Lord Funk on July 17, 2003, 06:13:17 AM
Agreed. If Seer is correct in thinking Aftermath is, to use his words, "a desk at Interscope", he shouldn't even be running it.

I'm sure the only reason he set it up is because after leaving The Row he didn't want to be seen as taking a step back and signing to someone else. Shit, music aside he's not that much better at the business side than Suge.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: LazyLatino on July 17, 2003, 06:43:40 AM
I thought everybody knew that?  ;D
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Reef on July 17, 2003, 07:01:45 AM
I didnt know he had Sticky Fingaz let alone lost him... But i have to agree.. Aftermarth could be one dope label if dre done business properly
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: PLANT on July 17, 2003, 07:15:54 AM
Aftermath is still a good label even tho Dre fucked up by losing Rakim.  They got Eminem and Dr Dre, thats pure success right there.  With those 2 artists they're gauranteed to sell prolly 5 million per album.  Then theres 50 cent whos tearing shit up right now, Hopefully Ice Cube is still on the roster.  Aftermath seems like theher'te going to be ok, but Rakim woulda made them the best for sure in the business but now they just fell back to a strong label.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: GBoogie on July 17, 2003, 07:47:58 AM
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Eve, Sticky Fingaz, Last Emperor, Hittman, King T, Rakim and maybe more.  


NONE OF THESE ARE BIG ENOUGH FOR DRE'S LABLE. ONLY RAKIM OR EVE MAYBE BUT DRE KNOW WHAT HE DOING, DRE A BUSINESS MAN YOU KNOW THAT. HE SCHOOLED BY THE BEST THERE IS AND HE HAS BEEN IN THE GAME FOR OVER A DECADE.

I THINK RAKIM SHOULD DROP THOUGH. INSTEAD OF BROOKLYN OR GAME BUT THEN WHO SAID THEY WILL DROP EITHER.

I THINK AFTERMATH GOING TO BE ALL ABOUT ICE CUBE!!!!
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Hydro on July 17, 2003, 08:00:34 AM
LOL, I wouldn't be surprised if Ice Cube's album doesn't come out either.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: BL7 on July 17, 2003, 08:29:44 AM
LOL, I wouldn't be surprised if Ice Cube's album doesn't come out either.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: mauzip on July 17, 2003, 09:09:16 AM
LOL, I wouldn't be surprised if Ice Cube's album doesn't come out either.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: YoungAyatollah on July 17, 2003, 10:32:19 AM
Sticky Fingaz never did sign to AFTERMATH!
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: smartass on July 17, 2003, 10:36:10 AM
its cause dre doesn't have enough balls to stand up to the white man. what ice cube was talking about in no vaseline is still true today. you would think people learn from their mistakes. not repeat them.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Woodrow on July 17, 2003, 10:45:43 AM
LOL...

You guys make me laugh.

Considering Dre and Eminem were the second richest/most well know celebriteis (rated by forbes) , and is constantly put in the top 5 most influential people in the rap industry, I'd say Dre is anything but a bad Businessman. If he thought Rakim wouldn't sell, then I'd say it was a good business move to not release his album.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Quakaveli on July 17, 2003, 10:50:40 AM
He didnt get his share of death row after owning half of the lable, did he? lol..
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Vigilante on July 17, 2003, 11:23:03 AM
As much as I hate the bitch......HE ISNT BRILLIANT BUT STILL SMART

Hittman, King Tee, Rakim WOULD NOT GO GOLD so why would he waste his beats?????

Jimmy Iovine is the real genius........

Sticky Fingaz will not sell, he can make Eve sell
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Braindead on July 17, 2003, 11:59:16 AM
IceCube is a big name in the movie/music industry ...but they won't let him do that political stuff !if he still want to do it
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Twentytwofifty on July 17, 2003, 12:33:47 PM
When Sticky was looking for a solo deal it was stated that Aftermath signed him but that was just a rumor or they were just talking about it.

Dr. Dre doesn't have his own label it's Interscope just like Snoop doesn't have no say with Doggystyle it's all up to MCA.  Many people have deals like this, there are just like A&Rs with more responsibilities.

Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: PLANT on July 17, 2003, 12:40:28 PM


Dr. Dre doesn't have his own label it's Interscope just like Snoop doesn't have no say with Doggystyle it's all up to MCA.  Many people have deals like this, there are just like A&Rs with more responsibilities.


True, but they should also be held responsible for the signing/dropping of certain artists.  For example, I dont think MCA records would have gone out and signed E White, Soopafly or Latoiya Williams, or Someone like that to the label.  I dont know what the case was with Interscope, but I feel that since Dre brought Rakim to Aftermath, he should be responsible to make sure that Rakim completes an album and that it gets released on the Aftermath label whatever the case may be.  I dont understand this bullshit of signing artists and then "dropping" them from the label.  Thats BS IMO.  Now, lets just hope this is just a rumer in the long run so we dont all have to shit on Dre's head.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on July 17, 2003, 12:49:32 PM


Dr. Dre doesn't have his own label it's Interscope just like Snoop doesn't have no say with Doggystyle it's all up to MCA.  Many people have deals like this, there are just like A&Rs with more responsibilities.

Nah its not the same with DoggyStyle and didnt Dr.Dre sell Aftermath thats why he doesnt have all the control
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Twentytwofifty on July 17, 2003, 01:03:18 PM
Nah its not the same with DoggyStyle and didnt Dr.Dre sell Aftermath thats why he doesnt have all the control

Was Aftermath not always with Interscope?

And if you think that Snoop Dogg has control over his "label" like a CEO of an independent label then you are wrong.

Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Miss NWA Whoorider on July 17, 2003, 03:24:22 PM
look you don't even know what you are talking about every day new groups call aftermath in hopes to be signed up,sound like a bad bussiness man to you?Dre is fair Suge is the one unfair............
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Don Jacob on July 17, 2003, 03:46:05 PM
LOL...

You guys make me laugh.

Considering Dre and Eminem were the second richest/most well know celebriteis (rated by forbes) , and is constantly put in the top 5 most influential people in the rap industry, I'd say Dre is anything but a bad Businessman. If he thought Rakim wouldn't sell, then I'd say it was a good business move to not release his album.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Lincoln on July 17, 2003, 06:53:03 PM
i don't think i made my point very clear, sorry. what i was referring to was not dropping of Rakim because he wouldn't sell. i was pointing out that he seems to make the same mistakes with Ruthless Death Row & now Aftermath because he allows others to take control. if he was a great businessman Jimmy Iovine would have NO control over Aftermath at all, he would simply be the Middleman between Dre & the Consumer (you). He would have solidified a contract where he would have 100% control.
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: mauzip on July 17, 2003, 10:14:34 PM
i think ya'll say it wrong. dre may not be the best businessman in the world, but he's definately not a bad businessman. ::)
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on July 17, 2003, 10:15:37 PM
Nah its not the same with DoggyStyle and didnt Dr.Dre sell Aftermath thats why he doesnt have all the control

Was Aftermath not always with Interscope?

And if you think that Snoop Dogg has control over his "label" like a CEO of an independent label then you are wrong.



never said that my friend  ;)
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on July 17, 2003, 10:27:31 PM
he allows others to take control
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Dr._Funkenstein on July 18, 2003, 04:18:49 AM
IceCube is a big name in the movie/music industry ...but they won't let him do that political stuff !if he still want to do it

Cube said he wanted his next album to be more political but that was before there was talk about him signing to Aftermath. Now he just say it might gonna be his best record yet. ;D

Damn, I hope those Interscope guys don't want to put a record out full with club sounds like "War & Peace Vol. 2 (The Peace Disc)".
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: LazyLatino on July 18, 2003, 08:47:15 AM
LOL...

You guys make me laugh.

Considering Dre and Eminem were the second richest/most well know celebriteis (rated by forbes) , and is constantly put in the top 5 most influential people in the rap industry, I'd say Dre is anything but a bad Businessman. If he thought Rakim wouldn't sell, then I'd say it was a good business move to not release his album.


I wouldnt say its a good buisness move to have a nosay of your OWN company...
Title: Re:Dr Dre is a bad businessman
Post by: Lincoln on July 18, 2003, 10:03:51 AM
LOL...

You guys make me laugh.

Considering Dre and Eminem were the second richest/most well know celebriteis (rated by forbes) , and is constantly put in the top 5 most influential people in the rap industry, I'd say Dre is anything but a bad Businessman. If he thought Rakim wouldn't sell, then I'd say it was a good business move to not release his album.


I wouldnt say its a good buisness move to have a nosay of your OWN company...

that's EXACTLY what i'm saying