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Title: A big problem with rap
Post by: pappy on July 18, 2003, 12:33:52 AM
THE FANS

rap fans are very cold when it comes to new rap fans. Instead of tryin to help the genre grow we bash the young kids an new fans for not knowing as much as u do.  i see it so many times.  Like when haterats said all rap fans as of 2000 should be killed.  Okay with that mind set how the fuck is the genre supposed to grow if we dont let people into it.  it dont make sense.  also another thing i dont understand is if u dont know as much as the next person.  If you wanna be a tru hip hop head u gotta listen to all underground rap regardless of how wack one of the guys may be.  u also have to kno there b-day,  social security number,  an there mothers madien name.  Than when it comes to sales,  this is hilarious.  Like when they say we need to support real hip hop like the roots an gang starr so people kno what hip hop is really about.  an than u ask,  well did u buy the album?????? nah i downloaded it an burned it.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Don Breezio on July 18, 2003, 12:40:32 AM
i agree entirely...a lot of ppl get shit from others for not knowing much about rap...is it so wrong that a lot of ppl dont know who Brotha Lynch is...most of us have been into hip hop for a long time and we know more about it than most other ppl...i would definetely call myself a true hip hop fan but i dont know ppls b-days and mothers maiden names and shit lol...that seems a bit obsessive...shit i dont even know tq's birthday and he's my favorite singer! i think in order to let the genre grow we need to stop hating on the ppl who are new to it and keep hating on the artists who come out now and come with bullshit (i wont mention any names)...but we have so many great artists wasting their talent...every artist out there is capable of making something dope...they just dont apply that...
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Jome on July 18, 2003, 01:03:15 AM
I agree, but it goes the other way too..

E.g, Some youngins boldly state that Fabolous is better than Ice Cube, that Noreaga & CamRon is garbage, that KRS-One is a old ass geek who got clowned by Nelly.. that Mobb Deep is a wack ass retirement crew.. that Diplomats is a supertalented crew etc.

^^ That pisses me more off than a hiphop-vet who clowns somebody for claiming that Ja Rule is a lyrical genius.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Don Breezio on July 18, 2003, 01:09:03 AM
I agree, but it goes the other way too..

E.g, Some youngins boldly state that Fabolous is better than Ice Cube, that Noreaga & CamRon is garbage, that KRS-One is a old ass geek who got clowned by Nelly.. that Mobb Deep is a wack ass retirement crew.. that Diplomats is a supertalented crew etc.

^^ That pisses me more off than a hiphop-vet who clowns somebody for claiming that Ja Rule is a lyrical genius.

lmao...very true...but its also the ppl who claim that Ja Rule is ruining hip hop by singing that are helping keep the genre at a minimum...ja just tried to bring a style to hip hop that was a little more poppy...sure it not hi-quality music...but its helping the genre grow. ppl that say KRS got clowned by nelly should be slapped...actually everybody who says any of the things that you mentioned should be slapped (sorry realizm)...
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: SIKWITIT on July 18, 2003, 01:49:36 AM
I WASN'T BIG RAP FAN TILL ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO AND I JUST WANT TO SAY IS THAT ALL THE STUFF I'VE LEARN WAS FROM FRIENDS AND PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE.     -ONE LOVE
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: pappy on July 18, 2003, 12:54:16 PM
upping for all the people on this board i was talking about 2 read
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on July 18, 2003, 01:12:55 PM
I agree, but it goes the other way too..

E.g, Some youngins boldly state that Fabolous is better than Ice Cube, that Noreaga & CamRon is garbage, that KRS-One is a old ass geek who got clowned by Nelly.. that Mobb Deep is a wack ass retirement crew.. that Diplomats is a supertalented crew etc.

^^ That pisses me more off than a hiphop-vet who clowns somebody for claiming that Ja Rule is a lyrical genius.

Couldn't have said it better myself...
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Javier on July 18, 2003, 02:35:18 PM
yea i hate it when some people say that the underground rap is the only true hip hop....when some of that shit is really corny
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Don Breezio on July 18, 2003, 03:07:08 PM
yea i hate it when some people say that the underground rap is the only true hip hop....when some of that shit is really corny

lmao...i was watching BET at like 4 in the morning yesterday...they were playing the more underground hip hop that nobody knows that doesnt have a huge deal or anything...shit i could see why...this guys vid came on...his name was contraband...this guy was probably the wackest rapper i had ever heard. couldnt rap worth shit. he had another guy in the video rapping that was really good...but really needed some work on his flow...it was hilarious though...this big buck toothed mf who cant rap trying to be hard...lol
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: pappy on July 18, 2003, 03:41:21 PM
why wont smartass reply to part about hating on new rap fans which he does.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Reef on July 18, 2003, 03:49:12 PM
I agree.... And i admit my frist rap CD was Marshall Maters LP.. but im into older stuff... mainly coz of people on here.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: smartass on July 18, 2003, 04:37:37 PM
how the fuck do i hate on new rap fans?
i put gareefa onto alot of shit. i told krimson good albums to pick up and songs to check out from them. i suggest albums to newer rap fans but they don't give a damn so i stopped doing it. what more do you want? i'm not one of the motherfuckers who goes around posting that i listen to "real hiphop" or that i'm a "hiphop head" so stop trying to act like you know someone over the internet cause you don't.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: pappy on July 18, 2003, 04:45:48 PM
how the fuck do i hate on new rap fans?
i put gareefa onto alot of shit. i told krimson good albums to pick up and songs to check out from them. i suggest albums to newer rap fans but they don't give a damn so i stopped doing it. what more do you want? i'm not one of the motherfuckers who goes around posting that i listen to "real hiphop" or that i'm a "hiphop head" so stop trying to act like you know someone over the internet cause you don't.
a yo i see u all the time on this board dissin peeps cuz they dont got this album.  an they dont wack off to this underground rapper like u do.  u say peeps call themselves  hip hop heads cuz they didnt buy an album from mc no1 has ever heard of me but u copped there album
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: smartass on July 18, 2003, 04:59:27 PM
how the fuck do i hate on new rap fans?
i put gareefa onto alot of shit. i told krimson good albums to pick up and songs to check out from them. i suggest albums to newer rap fans but they don't give a damn so i stopped doing it. what more do you want? i'm not one of the motherfuckers who goes around posting that i listen to "real hiphop" or that i'm a "hiphop head" so stop trying to act like you know someone over the internet cause you don't.
a yo i see u all the time on this board dissin peeps cuz they dont got this album.  an they dont wack off to this underground rapper like u do.  u say peeps call themselves  hip hop heads cuz they didnt buy an album from mc no1 has ever heard of me but u copped there album
i have never dissed someone because they didn't pick up an album. i listen to everything so i don't know whats up with this "wacking off to underground rappers" and you being on my dick all of a sudden. i couldn't decipher what the hell you said in the last sentence.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Twentytwofifty on July 18, 2003, 06:42:25 PM
I just wanted to throw in that the worst fans in hip-hop are the Canibus groupies.  I swear they think that everything that he's drops is classic (except C True Hollywood Stories but they make excuses like it was wack on purpose).

Check out the forums at Canibus Central dot com.  These guys are a fucking joke.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Shin on July 18, 2003, 06:44:11 PM


E.g, Some youngins boldly state that Fabolous is better than Ice Cube, that Noreaga & CamRon is garbage, that KRS-One is a old ass geek who got clowned by Nelly.. that Mobb Deep is a wack ass retirement crew.. that Diplomats is a supertalented crew etc.


I'm proud of these youngins!
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Don Breezio on July 18, 2003, 07:04:56 PM
I just wanted to throw in that the worst fans in hip-hop are the Canibus groupies.  I swear they think that everything that he's drops is classic (except C True Hollywood Stories but they make excuses like it was wack on purpose).

Check out the forums at Canibus Central dot com.  These guys are a fucking joke.

lol i've never checked that out...i've never been a big fan of canibus but i think most ppl here would agree that the shit hes droppin on this rip the jacker album will be a classic. its definetely the best i've ever heard from him...or atleast in my opinion it is.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Don Jacob on July 19, 2003, 02:20:16 AM
good topic tom


i think the same could be applied to all music really
but yeah. i agree with you whole heartedly
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: T-Dogg on July 19, 2003, 03:53:26 PM
Very. Well. Said.
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Jome on July 19, 2003, 06:52:58 PM
I don't think Smartass is picking on new rap-fans.. it's more dissing of artists he doesn't like.. even if those he actually like may seem stranger, at times..  :D
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Jimmy Cash on July 19, 2003, 07:41:23 PM
KRS-One is a old ass geek who got clowned by Nelly..

LMAO
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Trauma-san on July 19, 2003, 10:04:15 PM
THE FANS

rap fans are very cold when it comes to new rap fans. Instead of tryin to help the genre grow we bash the young kids an new fans for not knowing as much as u do.  i see it so many times.  Like when haterats said all rap fans as of 2000 should be killed.  Okay with that mind set how the fuck is the genre supposed to grow if we dont let people into it.  it dont make sense.  also another thing i dont understand is if u dont know as much as the next person.  If you wanna be a tru hip hop head u gotta listen to all underground rap regardless of how wack one of the guys may be.  u also have to kno there b-day,  social security number,  an there mothers madien name.  Than when it comes to sales,  this is hilarious.  Like when they say we need to support real hip hop like the roots an gang starr so people kno what hip hop is really about.  an than u ask,  well did u buy the album?????? nah i downloaded it an burned it.

You're exactly right, rap fans need to step back, and look at how they act.  there's a LOT of frontin' going on, they think they're more intelligent, blah blah blah.  Really man, it's a problem with RAP not just the fans.  You get this shit all around.  Lots and lots of ignorance, it comes from like you said heads not wanting any new fans, but yet they want their artist to sell, but yet if they sell any at all they're considered a sell-out, but they complain when they don't sell shit, but... on and on and on.  There's all kinds of this shit in rap, even when Rappers call every single woman a bitch, what's that about?  Rap itself is responsible for the loss of quality in the music, in my opinion, for what you mentioned
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Quakaveli on July 20, 2003, 07:14:39 AM
yea i hate it when some people say that the underground rap is the only true hip hop....when some of that shit is really corny

LOL word..
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: smartass on July 20, 2003, 07:49:59 AM
I don't think Smartass is picking on new rap-fans.. it's more dissing of artists he doesn't like.. even if those he actually like may seem stranger, at times..  :D
the only "strange" artist i listen to is tech n9ne. now remove my dick from that lockjaw of yours. thanks. :)  
Title: Re:A big problem with rap
Post by: Jome on July 20, 2003, 03:46:47 PM

the only "strange" artist i listen to is tech n9ne. now remove my dick from that lockjaw of yours. thanks. :)  

Tech N9ne isn't strange  >:(
lol, he's just on some other shit.