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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: P Nelson on July 23, 2002, 09:57:52 PM

Title: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: P Nelson on July 23, 2002, 09:57:52 PM
The ratings are getting better, but, they aint got the sold out crowds they used to have, and the popularity went down... Since the WWE lost Steve Austin, they lost a lot, even with the NWO, HBK, Flair, The Rock, Angle, etc... I can blame Brock Lesnar a bit cuz hes SOoooo Boring and never loses for some reason

The WWE needs To get some differents world champs... if Hardy would win againts Taker and kept the title for a couple of months, it could be interesting.. They give chances to people with no skills like Brock, but forget bout Hardy, RVD, etc... If RVD was King of The Ring, it would make more sense...

Now The WWE is in a lot of rumors, comeback of Scott Steiner, HBK back in the ring, etc... Is that what they really need? I think the solution is IN the company, if they sign Scott Steiner, its enuff...

Wus ur thoughts??
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 23, 2002, 10:18:19 PM
brock lesner no talent,  r u kiddin me.  brock is tha man.  he has mad skill.  i heard he can do a shootin star press.  They need to push some youngn's into tha main event not be squashed right away when they reach it.  Its so borin right now tha main even scene hopefully wit brock that will help change things.  jericho needs to become a force amongst tha main eventers again but HHH held him down even when he got his shot
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: P Nelson on July 23, 2002, 10:24:19 PM
k let me correct myself, Brock has talent in the ring, but on the mic... and his charisma... needs work, they DO need some fresh MAin Eventer like RVD and The Hardys, some Main Eventers who knows how to wrestle, The Rock is cool tho cuz of his charisma
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 23, 2002, 10:28:15 PM
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k let me correct myself, Brock has talent in the ring, but on the mic... and his charisma... needs work, they DO need some fresh MAin Eventer like RVD and The Hardys, some Main Eventers who knows how to wrestle, The Rock is cool tho cuz of his charisma

i'll give you that, brock needs work on tha mic an in tha charisma department
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: bez on July 24, 2002, 08:08:03 AM
the only 4 world champs that have ever had charisma and mad mic skills are:
HBK
Triple H
The Rock
And Austin


I think that the WWE needs to bring back the MAGIC and the fun.  Get rid of the oldies, and bring in fresh new talent.

Peace
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: P Nelson on July 24, 2002, 08:19:59 AM
yea I thnk rvd is the solution..
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Jay ay Beee on July 24, 2002, 09:16:28 AM
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the only 4 world champs that have ever had charisma and mad mic skills are:
HBK
Triple H
The Rock
And Austin


I think that the WWE needs to bring back the MAGIC and the fun.  Get rid of the oldies, and bring in fresh new talent.

Peace



Don't forget my cousin Mick Foley

Shit ain't been the same since Mick
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Mr.Pac-Man on July 24, 2002, 09:18:46 AM
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yea I thnk rvd is the solution..



they need to push R-V-D!!! hes tight!
hardy boyz too!  they need to put them back together...also APA....wheres farooq?? and Dudley Boyz need the bubba and devon..not spike.......and get Hogan to fight on singles matches....also push booker T.....his mic skillz are getting better!
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: P Nelson on July 24, 2002, 09:48:01 AM
They need some kliks ... RVD + Hardys vs Rey Misterio, Chavo & Eddie Guerrero... juss imagine this feud...
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Pillow on July 24, 2002, 11:41:52 AM
tha solution is just to stop tha whole damn thing. its a big fucking show of no talented guys grabbing each others asses with speedoes....its not even a sport
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 24, 2002, 04:31:04 PM
What happened was the writers fucked up and blew so many chances to keep the attention of the fans

WCW angle blown
Heel Stone Cold turning into some sissy
nWo angle blown
First brand extension blown

Those were four major angle in the past couple of years and they all fucked up. Also the booking is kinda shitty too. Too many of the same matches over and over againin my opinion, but that's no big deal.

and all the new talent have been given bad roles, like Deacon Bautista.

It's not the wrestlers, its the damn writers.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: bez on July 25, 2002, 02:47:58 AM
yep, I agree with Sikotic, but the thing I will say is that the writers have proberly been doing there thing for like 20-30 years.  The amount of good idea's and good roles have proberly all been done already.

e.g. Vince vs Austin
Corparate Ministry vs. DX
Rock and Sock Connection

All the good storylines have been done they dont want to be repeating themselves from like 5 years ago.  And the matches as well, I think introducing nw kind of matches would boost rating because like for the last 6 PPV's the main event's have always been either just a single match or a triple threat, I know people will come on and say what about MAnkind and Triple H, hell in the cell.  But thats the thing all the hype about that and I dont even think it was a god match.

New matches need to be thought of and made carefully.  LIke WCW's triple cge match, it was new it was different and dam it was exciting.  I dont mean go over the top with like Barbed wire ropes, flaming buckles and a cage and shit like that I just mean NEW matches that fans will think are good and exciting, none of this Hell in the cell and cage with dogs in the middle, e.g Al Snow and Boss man, that was 1 of the worst matches for hype ever. Saying there will be dogs on the outside and there owners had hold of them, what a joke.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 25, 2002, 06:01:17 PM
The Rock as champ is a start, but we all know his going to lose to film movies, which is bad. Less title changes, and more stablity to the World Title. Develope one popular champion that people want to see, or one main chacter, such as Hulk Hogan, and Stone Cold before. Like I say Kurt Angle is the best man. Remake him an American Hero, of something were his a bad ass, and have him feuding with Brock Lesner, Untertaker, Chris Jericho, and even faces like The Rock, and RVD. I think it's a long term solution, as it takes a while for the people to get into a chacter, but like last time, while watching Stone Cold, other people like Rocky, Foley, and Unsertaker were able to also be pushed, and people began to regonize them. So by having Angle, or for now Rocky, as champ, other young talent can be seen, like Jericho and Lesner so that people can see them as threats. The mistake right now is the WWE is trying to keep current fans, what they should do is attrack new ones with a more updated face, like Kurt Angle in a time were people are more patroitic. Turning Angle bad after winnning the title against Stone Cold was a huge mistake. Angle still gets people on the side he wants, and without Rocky, he could/should be the biggest star.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Hatesrats™ on July 25, 2002, 08:11:23 PM
End the program.....

That's the only solution.


I feel sorry for the youngster's who never got the chance to watch the WWf during it's heyday....

It's a fucken joke now....lol

Fuck wrestling....lol
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Pillow on July 25, 2002, 08:40:57 PM
its always been a joke
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: bez on July 26, 2002, 01:55:20 AM
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End the program.....

That's the only solution.


I feel sorry for the youngster's who never got the chance to watch the WWf during it's heyday....

It's a fucken joke now....lol

Fuck wrestling....lol


I agree its a joke to narrow minded people like yourself, If people like it people like it, who the hell are you to say its a fuckin joke and that.  GIMP!
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: V Gotti: H.N.I.C. on July 26, 2002, 11:40:44 AM
solution:

they need to heavily depend on some of the old superstars to foster some of the new youth influx into the WWE. Like using the big name stars like HHH, the Rock, Angle, Jericho to help get some of the youth some facetime. That with a combination of what everyone else has said already <better writing, better booking, stability with title, new roles, suprise winners, etc. etc. etc. then maybe they will pull out of it. I used to watch all the time, but i havent watched in like 3 months, last time i turned it on it was straight out horrible.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: JLscorpio on July 26, 2002, 05:37:24 PM
They need to bring back The Warrior, he was one of the most popular wrestlers ever but he never really stayed around that long. He was even more popular as the Intercontinental champion than Hogan was as world champion during the same period. He was never boring though his interviews were incomprehensible.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: JLscorpio on July 26, 2002, 05:40:49 PM
Also they need to find Jushin Thunder Liger besides Rey Mysterio he was the king of the high flyers.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: P Nelson on July 26, 2002, 07:06:28 PM
Oké if u dont like wrestling, juss dont read the post. And I wont disturb u when ur talkin bout ur skate board or ur other punky ass sports lie curling and bowling ::) 8)
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 26, 2002, 10:27:54 PM
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They need to bring back The Warrior, he was one of the most popular wrestlers ever but he never really stayed around that long. He was even more popular as the Intercontinental champion than Hogan was as world champion during the same period. He was never boring though his interviews were incomprehensible.


Isn't he a psychopath though?
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: JLscorpio on July 27, 2002, 08:48:26 AM
Wouldn't surprise me but the last thing i heard about him was some guy joking about him working fast food now or something.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: JLscorpio on July 27, 2002, 09:09:41 AM
I did a little searching and found something fairly interesting.


In 1985 I got a phone call from one of the owners of Gold's Gym in Venice California, Ed Connors. I had known Ed for a few years when I had trained in California for what I believe was the 1985 Jr. Mr.USA contest. After an unanticipated and, in my mind, unsatisfactory placement at this contest I had returned to Atlanta, Ga to finish up clinical requirements in hopes of obtaining my Doctor of Chiropractic degree. Yet, shortly after I had returned, Ed had called to tell me of a guy whom he knew was looking for someone like me to fill a spot on what was to be a team of professional wrestlers. The rest is history.
The taking of but one breath begins the recording of time...
The opening of but one eye begins the recording of a story...
The step of but one foot forward begins the recording of a history.



And what a history it was...and is still growing to be. Often times it's not until you get down off the horse that 's been carrying you do you realize the miles traveled. Then, and only then, do the places, people and things accomplished come into foke. Being here at this site, specifically this page, says you are aware of who the Ultimate Warrior [is] (at least, as a manner of speaking goes) and odds are, you're aware some of his accomplishments . Hell, some of you might remember more of this journey than even I, his creator and lifeline. This would not at all surprise me.

It was a journey energized by the millions who watched from around the world. This area of Warrior World Wide Web was created to take you on that journey once again. Whether as a curious first time observer or a zealous, hardcore fan, everyone can now see why a statement was made in the World of Professional Wrestling like no other. One not likely to be eclipsed for a long, long time.

As a contrarian, I've always walked to the beat of a different drummer and for the most part have always been reticent apart from the dynamic explosiveness within my professional wrestling career. Due to the sporadic and widely publisized appearances and disappearances during my career, I've been the centrus of more rumors than probably anyone. And simply because I have always had a life beyond the ring, accurate information has always been lazily substituted with faulty, foisted opinions nurtured in insipid, adolescent minds.    

mething fairly interesting.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: JLscorpio on July 27, 2002, 09:17:06 AM
Found something even more interesting.

The Warrior aka Ultimate Warrior

Comments on Bret Hart calling Hulk Hogan a hero - June 2002

On another similar note, I am disappointed to find out that Bret Hart has written a “soft”, almost “Pillsbury pudgy” column calling Hogan a Hero. I don’t know what criteria Bret is using to judge Hogan a hero. Maybe just the anecdotal stuff he put in the article. If so, I’d say Hogan, a person with heartstrings like us all, took the time to show his caring side, while, also, thinking to take advantage of the press-op. And who of us, traveling as we did up and down the road, hasn’t had the 50th petitioner for an autograph call us an asshole, not knowing we just spent every last available second we had signing 49. Still, if that is what it takes to be a hero, that is a pretty low bar to hold up as the standard. In Sports Entertainment, Hulk Hogan is the standout, the White Elephant. He is the face most people know and will remember. Each one of us that has danced inside the squared circle concedes this much. But a hero? Do we call a guy who milked a philosophy of life -- one he pushed on and sold to kids -- that he really doesn’t live by, a hero? Do we call a guy who’s whole life is absolutely nothing but a work, “real” and a hero? (There are plenty of people in the business who will not say this. But there is nobody in the business that does not know it.) Do we call a guy who turns bad and good and bad and good for the storyline and a few more bucks to add to millions already accumulated, a hero? Do we keep calling him a hero when he sues the poorly-paid-just-trying-to-do-my-job storywriters for defamation, making the circus-like claim that they legitimately slandered his reputation? Do we call the same guy a hero when he has the bank and connections to do something positive but cowers to his own inner fears of failure and sells out to the sleaziest promoter pimp there is? Do we call the same near 50-yr-old guy (now a grown man, an inveterate, iconic role model for all the youth) a hero when he still refuses to exercise his mind and inspire us with ideas that are more serious and worthy? (Keep building your body, sure. But use your mind a little.) Do we still call this guy a hero when the attention -- ergo, influence -- he commands is worldwide yet he finds it ok to stand and watch and participate in programming that pushes the lowest, viliest forms of human behavior?

Unlike Bret and many others, I don’t use a grab bag of feelings to determine the character of someone. Hogan is no Hero. And believe me, these questions I propose, here, are just a paltry poke at getting to know that. I’m writing...

Perhaps Bret is paving the way to soothe any previous pains he had about returning to Titan. After all, Hogan is there, he’s a hero. Ironically, timing couldn’t be better. Michaels has come clean about the Montreal screwjob, and stepped back in the ring, to set the stage. Or perhaps, the dysfunction of the Hart family knew only one boundary -- Sadly, he’s no longer here to clarify that for us. It’s time to stay strong in character, Bret. Don’t let your separation, possibly nostalgia, from the business make you lonely, then weak. And before you scrawl out a dismissive, scathing retort -- sure to appear -- let me say that I had previously always held you in high regard. You seemed, after all, a man of varied accomplishments. Maybe one of those you haven't developed is the everyday, common courage it takes to draw a deep, distinct line between what really is right and what really is wrong. If for nothing else than all the eyes and ears upon you. Calling Hogan "real" and a hero is wrong. Too many people are listening to you. You know better. You should do better. You once seemed the fighter. But, when the truth is told, you only whined about what Titan did to you, I warred and made what was wrong, right.

That’s all for now. Always Believe, Warrior
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 28, 2002, 08:27:49 AM
I read his commentary about the British Bulldog's death and it was sickening. He had no compassion. He shouldn't be talkin' either since I'm pretty sure he uses steriods too.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: JLscorpio on July 28, 2002, 08:49:16 AM
He mentioned that he admitted to using steriods that he quit thats why he looked so different when he returned at wrestleMania 8 he lost a lot of weight when he quit using them.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: AlerG on July 29, 2002, 05:08:02 AM
what's up with the warrior...where is all this shit being posted?
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: Jay ay Beee on July 29, 2002, 07:36:11 AM
Bringing back the Warrior would just drive another nail into the coffin

Letting the old washed up shits rise above the youth
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: JLscorpio on July 29, 2002, 08:36:42 AM
ultimatewarrior.com
Also he has mentioned that there is no chance of him ever returning to the WWE mostly because of the type of person Vince McMahon is.
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: P Nelson on July 30, 2002, 03:23:17 AM
Lol I reallly dont think Ultimate Warrior is the solution...
Title: Re: Whats the Solution for WWE??
Post by: bez on July 30, 2002, 11:30:59 AM
I no yer whats everyne talking about the old past it gimp warrior for.  whats next L.O.D.