West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: budsmokeronly on August 13, 2003, 11:04:19 AM
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probably the 2 biggest albums dropping this year, which album do you think is gonna be better?
I think wscg is gonna release another classic that I can listen to begining to end.
I think 213 is gonna have some major bangers on it, but I also expect some very wack tracks, because every snoop album since doggfather has had at least 3 very wack tracks that I can't stand.
If it were strictly 213 with no guests I may say 213 will be the better album, but we all know that won't happen so I say wscg is gonna blow 213 out of the water.
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Westside Connection...ImO
I would also rather hear the Golden State Project over a very late 213 cd.
(A very Eastcoast/South influenced 213 cd jus don't do it..)
& so far....I'm exxpecting the worst.... :-\
That way if it suck's....I was ready.
OnE
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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WSCG
Will be more west coast...
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Oddly, I don't really care about the 213 album. Can't wait to hear WSC's new project though. ;) ;D
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I think it wil be the complete opposite.
WSCG is gonna be weak cause everybody is anticipaiting this album.
And everybody is hatin' on the 213 cause' y'all think Snoop is gonna fuck it up.
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WSCG
Will be more west coast...
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WSCG no doubt
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I think 213 is going to be one of the best albums ever.....Snoop, Nate and Warren, thats the best combo u could ask for...I wouldnt be as hyped, but Snoop is really on top of his game right now, I dont know who put the G back in Snoop Dogg, but hes flowing sick to a beat these days.....and Dre getting down on this is also a blessing.
I think everyone is expecting the worst for 213 because of how Paid The Cost.....sounded.....but I think it will be the other way around after it drops.
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Apart from WC, Westside Connection are finished IMO. Cube is a MASSIVE sellout with no time for rap anymore and Mack 10? fucking hell! a dude fresh from Cash Money...
What do you have to do to have an LP classed as a West Coast album???
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^^^^^ idiot
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WSCG
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I am afraid (like all you Snoop, Nate and/or Warren lovers out there) of how the 213 album will sound. Nevertheless I am not going to say crap about it till I finally hear it. So, I anticipate 213 over WSC cause Warren and Nate are my favorite eastsidaz. WSC is mad dope too and I also expect big things.
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^^^^^ idiot
Thats my OPINION - What's the deal then?
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...I wouldnt be as hyped, but Snoop is really on top of his game right now, I dont know who put the G back in Snoop Dogg, but hes flowing sick to a beat these days.....and Dre getting down on this is also a blessing.
I think everyone is expecting the worst for 213 because of how Paid The Cost.....sounded.....but I think it will be the other way around after it drops.
4 sho, represent knows how 2 represent.
Man Snoop has been flowin his azz off lately!!!! I had basically forgot how dope he used to flow, I thought the weed really had slowed him down but I donno what it was.
Hmmm, I think the 213 will be better because Nate always comes correct and Snoop is back to flowin. The WSC tracks since bow down have been coo, some better than others, but nothin classic. Here's what I can remember them droppin since then:
Walk
Let it reign
Lights out
Nobody
Connected 4 life
Now maybe they'll get focused on their real album but these songs are nowhere close to the tracks on Bow Down.
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^^^^^ idiot
Thats my OPINION - What's the deal then?
nothing just stating my OPINION
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West Side Connection album will turn out to be wack because people are expecting too much from it..dont forget that last album was based on the East/West beef , so what are they gonna talk about now?? I got love for WSC but I go with 213 because of Nate And Snoop
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I just hope they both come thru. The west needs a boost right now. I've got high hopes for both.
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I just hope they both come thru. The west needs a boost right now. I've got high hopes for both.
he does have a point, look at us talking down on these two westcoast releases, i guess that's why they don't sell.
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West Side Connection album will turn out to be wack because people are expecting too much from it..dont forget that last album was based on the East/West beef , so what are they gonna talk about now?? I got love for WSC but I go with 213 because of Nate And Snoop
I was thinkin the same thing. Seein the name is "Terrorist threats" I hope they get on some NWA era shit like dissin the government and makin the FBI write letters to em.
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Apart from WC, Westside Connection are finished IMO. Cube is a MASSIVE sellout with no time for rap anymore and Mack 10? fucking hell! a dude fresh from Cash Money...
What do you have to do to have an LP classed as a West Coast album???
Mack 10 left cash money a LONG time ago.
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Y'all shouldn't really even be choosing between the 2 albums. Both are major releases for the WestCoast & you should support both releases. ;)
Don't hate on the albums until you hear them. How do you know if WSC is gonna be wack or the 213 is gonna be wack? Just be patient, wait for the albums to be released THEN judge them.
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Man, yall too quick to label everything as "westcoast". Please, give me a definition of a westocast CD... strictly producers from the west? a lot more reppin of the westocast on the CD? Is that really enough to satisfy you? So if the CD is composed entirely of weak tracks prod. by Fred Wreck, Battlecat, Damizza, and WSCG is reppin the west in every song, would you still be satisfied?
Let's take a different approach, and break down WSCG individually... we got Cube, who no longer considers the music biz to be a priority IMO (compared to his movie career), we got Mack 10, who's signed to Cash Money, a SOUTHERN label, and WC, who's probably the only one keepin it strictly westcoast. But yet, their CD is supposed to be a prefect representation of a westcoast CD.
On the other hand, we have 213. Nate Dogg, who is virtually a blessing to each song that he provides his voice to. Warren G, who provides us strictly with that G-Funk and never disappoints, Snoop, who is the epitome of a laidback westocast act. Now, imagine all 3 together in a CD, along with some of the hottest producers in the game, who will do their best to provide beats to accomodate the 213, and not bring a southern, or eastcoast flavor to the CD. Putting aside that bullshit westocast labelling, could you honestly tell me that this CD is gonna be wack? If you say yes, then consider yourself ignorant, from my part.
I'm not trying to bash the WSCG CD, I know it won't disappoint, but if yall gonna go as far as bashing the 213 because of your ridiculous westcoast labelling, I thought I'd break down the WSCG, and see just how "Westcoast" they are, individually.
Just enjoy the music, and stop being so uptight
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Westside Connection...ImO
I would also rather hear the Golden State Project over a very late 213 cd.
(A very Eastcoast/South influenced 213 cd jus don't do it..)
Agreed.. I even anticipate Eastsidaz more than 213 now.. even if 213 first single produced by Dr.Dre admittedly sounds like classic stuff.
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dude you're funny, if my memory serves me right...snoop went to a southern label too....hmmmm that's right he did now didn't he? and mack 10 is on bungalo records...so you can quit with that cash money thing...
and the neptunes will NEVER make a westcoast beat...i hope you guys realize this and stop dreaming...they'll make some poppy beat...
snoops raps will consist of izzle rhymes, what a pimp he is, how he reps crip and you'll hear a little bit of gangsta rap.
Nate will do like every single hook which isn't bad, just hope they use him right...
warren G has never had the best flow or been very lyrical so there goes that
you're going to have all mixed production which we all know sounds like crap the majority of the times...if you look at classic westcoast releases, most of them only had 1-3 producers...
i expect 213 to be some poppy radio crap, but honestly i hope they prove me wrong...i don't have high expectations for WSC after that lights out song wither so, we'll see how it goes.
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we got Mack 10, who's signed to Cash Money, a SOUTHERN label,
yo i already said mack 10 left cash money long time ago.
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probably the 2 biggest albums dropping this year, which album do you think is gonna be better?
I think wscg is gonna release another classic that I can listen to begining to end.
I think 213 is gonna have some major bangers on it, but I also expect some very wack tracks, because every snoop album since doggfather has had at least 3 very wack tracks that I can't stand.
If it were strictly 213 with no guests I may say 213 will be the better album, but we all know that won't happen so I say wscg is gonna blow 213 out of the water.
i agree with every word
prace
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dude you're funny, if my memory serves me right...snoop went to a southern label too....hmmmm that's right he did now didn't he? and mack 10 is on bungalo records...so you can quit with that cash money thing...
Dude, you're funny too... was I arguing that 213 would be much more westcoast than WSCG? I'm just pointing out that WSCG has their non-westcoast traits as well, since yall felt the need to break down 213 and "expose" them, stating that they would have no westcoast feel to them, which I disagree. In fact, it's the whole labelling of "westcoast" which frustrates me. Yall don't know the definition, but yall seem to throw it around and label it quite easily. If ya ask me, both will be some hot albums, but 213 just outshines WSCG IMO. The point I'm trying to get across is quite simple, and I'll repeat it for you, cuz it seems you didn't quite absorb it...
Just enjoy the music, and stop being so uptight. Oh yeah, and save the sarcasm, kid
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Both albums are going to be dope, so i can't really choose, but i could tell y'all stop putting negativey in these projects. If y'all are true westcoast fans there is no need to say the releases are going to be crap. Personally I think they are gonna definetly make some noise for the westcoast. If the westcoast consistently make dope albums the public or media can't deny good music and they are going to have to play their songs. Lets all be the judge when they both come out. Peace!
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i don't get this whole 213 ain't gonna be west coast thing at all.........let me get this right there are 2 non westcoast producers on this let me break it down............
NON WESTCOAST-
1 neptune song
1 timbaland song
WEST COAST-
dre- producing the 1st single, maybee more
warren g- producing probably close to half the album
tha chill- producing a few cuts (run up on u is heat)
battlecat- will have at least one song
jelly roll- some don't like him but check his beats on top dogg/ personal business and others and you'll see westcoast beats
fred wreck- bomb ass producer obviously
this is what we know so far and to me i'm looking at an incredable line up og WESTCOAST PRODUCERS, and 2 songs by the biggest name producers in the game so i ain't trippin and neither should you
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i expect more from the wsc album. both will be dope though. but the title 'terrorist thread' gives me very high expectations!
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THANK GOD....atleast everyone else if finally figuring out that snoop is a sellout and 213 is gonna be a huge dissappointment...WSC is gonna be helloffa lot tighter...though i wont be surprised if the new eastsidaz is better than both..since mr sellout snoop isnt in charge anymore 8)
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dude you're funny, if my memory serves me right...snoop went to a southern label too....hmmmm that's right he did now didn't he? and mack 10 is on bungalo records...so you can quit with that cash money thing...
Dude, you're funny too... was I arguing that 213 would be much more westcoast than WSCG? I'm just pointing out that WSCG has their non-westcoast traits as well, since yall felt the need to break down 213 and "expose" them, stating that they would have no westcoast feel to them, which I disagree. In fact, it's the whole labelling of "westcoast" which frustrates me. Yall don't know the definition, but yall seem to throw it around and label it quite easily. If ya ask me, both will be some hot albums, but 213 just outshines WSCG IMO. The point I'm trying to get across is quite simple, and I'll repeat it for you, cuz it seems you didn't quite absorb it...
Just enjoy the music, and stop being so uptight. Oh yeah, and save the sarcasm, kid
ok, so what you're saying is WSC got their non west coast traits too huh?
i'm going to take you WAAAAAY back to when you were only 15...you remember that age right? couldn't vote, couldn't drink, about to be a sophmore or a junior in high school...anyways snoop came out with a CD named Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be Told on No Limit records. Even though i didn't buy it, i heard a few songs on there and it seemed that snoop went the southern route with most of his songs on there...
now i bring you up to 2001 when mack 10's Bang Or Ball came out...you were a young man bout to be a Senior or maybe even started thinking about college. I bought this cd and even though Mack 10 was on Cash Money Records, He still kept it westcoast on pretty much all of his songs....with one or two exceptions...But were past that now because he's on a different label and he's always repped westcoast...
plus westside connection was one of the most pro westcoast cd's i've ever heard, and i don't see them changing it just for the hell of it.
if you had read the rest of my reply, you would have seen i took pretty much the same stance as you, but your feelings were probably too hurt to finish.
so next time you make a statement as bold as saying 213 will be more westcoast than Westside Connection, try to take what you're learning in college and apply it to this board. learn to express your thoughts in words and properly convey you meaning the first time. oh and another thing to keep in mind kid, check the age before you think you're older than someone. youngin.
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so next time you make a statement as bold as saying 213 will be more westcoast than Westside Connection, try to take what you're learning in college and apply it to this board. learn to express your thoughts in words and properly convey you meaning the first time. oh and another thing to keep in mind kid, check the age before you think you're older than someone. youngin.
geez, homie, you're pretty thick in the head. huh? You wanna go back and read the beginning of my 2nd post?
"was I arguing that 213 would be much more westcoast than WSCG? I'm just pointing out that WSCG has their non-westcoast traits as well, since yall felt the need to break down 213 and "expose" them, stating that they would have no westcoast feel to them"
In other words, if you feel the need to bring up "Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be Told", don't overlook Mack 10's album being produced by Manny Fresh. So Snoop & Mack 10 are in the same boat. Think about that before making your one-sided points about 213 having a sellout with them, and WSCG being entirely westcoast. And just to clear something up, "Da Game Is..." was basically a CD where No Limit welcomed Snoop in their fam. Snoop had said in an interview that he had no creative control for that CD, because Master P and the rest insisted on handling all production on that album, as a sign of welcoming him into the No Limit camp. The whole CD took two months to make. Top Dogg was the CD in which Snoop took total control over... and I think it's safe to say that CD had that westcoast feel to it. That's a prime example of showing everyone that Snoop could provide the flavor yall want. Expect the same from the 213 album.
So, let me make it clear, my intentions aren't to prove that 213 will be more westcoast, I just wanna let yall know that every point made here that 213 will be a sellout CD cuz of Snoop is bullshit, cuz with that logic, WSCG would be a sellout CD cuz of Mack 10. Boy, your face would be red if there were a few tracks produced by Manny Fresh on the WSCG LP, huh?
One more time... Just enjoy the music, and stop being so uptight. Oh yeah, and save the sarcasm, kid. On the real... yeah, I checked, homie. Age 0. And judging by your ignorant comments, I'll safely assume you're a kid. So before you try to find loopholes in my comments to get back at me, along with your useless sarcasm tagged along with it, just wanna let you know I've made my point, do what you will with it. I ain't gonna reply, so if you wish to reply again to have the upper hand, feel free to do so. Wouldn't expect anything less from you, junior. Later
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ok...one last time clown...for the people that have bad vision. basically we're saying the same thing, you just chose to attack WSC and i took on 213...
i'm proud you can read a booklet, but when it comes down to it the arguement is on the music, not the text. mannie fresh, while a southern producer, tailored the tracks to mack 10 to have a more westcoast feel. the same cannot be said for snoop's first No Limit cd and i really don't care about the politics behind that choice. when it comes down to it, Mack 10 has 5 westcoast cd's (not including Tha Hood and GG&G) and snoop has 1 pop, 1 southern, and the rest being west. so who's the bigger sell out?
also i'm sure Mack 10 has ALLLLLLLLLLL the control over WSC ::) while snoop on the other hand has ALLLLL control over 213. read the warren interview.
oh and another thing, yeah i wouldn't mind seeing mannie fresh on the WSC but you know what? thet would never happen. so instead of playing pretend, stick to the facts.
so you can see, it's not hard finding loopholes in your statements,and i must commend your attack on my character, but we both know who the real child is and that's all that matters, right little boy?
also i filed out my profile since you love to do your homework.
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WSCG
Will be more west coast...
Exactly 8)