West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Que (signing off) on August 21, 2003, 06:46:32 AM
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Just wondered what you thought.
I Think a Kurupt or Danny Boy album is a must because the new era of Murder Inc/Mixtape collabo's are not cutting it for me.
Kurupt could open the door for Crooked I to.
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Tha Row has some hopes of being a successful label again but IMO they will never be the power or hold the clout that they once were/did...
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To me it breaks it down like this -
There are certain things that made Death Row what it was in its heyday. They were:
Dr Dre - his production, guidence and status as a figurehead for the label circa The Chronic.
Snoop Doggy Dogg - the most charasmatic rapper of the early-to-mid 90s. Remember those times when every time you heard him drop a verse it was exciting?
G-funk - Okay, okay. Above The Law laid the blueprint. And Warren made it his own. But Dre perfected it, especially on Doggystyle. Death Row was G-funk back there.
Tupac - Death Row incarnate for a year and some change. Repped it harder than any other inmate bar none, including founding members.
A sense of being more than just a label - In a good way. Death Row used to be a movement - you felt there would be nothing the label couldn't accomplish.
Now there's none of it as far as I can see. It no longer has the calibre of artist, production or image that made it great. It can release as many albums as it wants, but even if it gave us, say, three solid solo albums from Crooked, Kurupt and Eastwood, you can't tell me that it will mean as much to any of you as The Chronic, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, AEOM and Murder Was The Case.
Don't want to sound like I'm hating on Suge, but... nah, fuck it, I am. ;)
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only time will tell.....
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No fuckin' way. They've got talent there, but nothing like back in the day. Plus, Suge's always in trouble and they owe mad cash every which way.
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Tha Row has some hopes of being a successful label again but IMO they will never be the power or hold the clout that they once were/did...
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No way it looks like
Crooked I is a great talent, but thats it. They need producers, aint they aint got shit but guys who sound like poor indy producers.
Besides they spend to much time focusing on BS
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They have lots of skill but they wont be what they used to be. but IMO they have more skill then lots of the big labels now.
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Tha Row has some hopes of being a successful label again but IMO they will never be the power or hold the clout that they once were/did...
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Absolutely NOT !!
Suge is on borrowed time right now...His label is afloat because of 2Pac material;
That's why Suge is Reissuing 2Pac(The Best of)...PAC Music keeps the Everyday
Bills Paid (That's IT)...Time has ran its course with that Label...
If Suge was going to Drop a Crooked I Album, it would have already seen the light
of day...Talent wise, it's a shame that he's wasting valuable talent on that label and
don't know what to do with it...Bullying People now a days don't sell records...Talent
does
"Move Units and then Talk S***"
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Just wondered what you thought.
I Think a Kurupt or Danny Boy album is a must because the new era of Murder Inc/Mixtape collabo's are not cutting it for me.
Kurupt could open the door for Crooked I to.
::) c'mon man...what do u think? everybody left that label and its been dead for years now.
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hell no..... Death Row was EVERY where & they were the mainstream they had Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Tha Dogg Pound, & then 2pac... now Snoop Dogg had alot of hype and sold alot of records at first and no rapper has been like that but him & 50 Cent (i guess) so i dont think so but u never kno cuz Crooked I is tite but i never heard Eastwood or the other guys.... Kurupt isnt that great nemore i liked him over the Fred Wreck beats not the Death Row beats
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To me it breaks it down like this -
There are certain things that made Death Row what it was in its heyday. They were:
Dr Dre - his production, guidence and status as a figurehead for the label circa The Chronic.
Snoop Doggy Dogg - the most charasmatic rapper of the early-to-mid 90s. Remember those times when every time you heard him drop a verse it was exciting?
G-funk - Okay, okay. Above The Law laid the blueprint. And Warren made it his own. But Dre perfected it, especially on Doggystyle. Death Row was G-funk back there.
Tupac - Death Row incarnate for a year and some change. Repped it harder than any other inmate bar none, including founding members.
A sense of being more than just a label - In a good way. Death Row used to be a movement - you felt there would be nothing the label couldn't accomplish.
Now there's none of it as far as I can see. It no longer has the calibre of artist, production or image that made it great. It can release as many albums as it wants, but even if it gave us, say, three solid solo albums from Crooked, Kurupt and Eastwood, you can't tell me that it will mean as much to any of you as The Chronic, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, AEOM and Murder Was The Case.
Don't want to sound like I'm hating on Suge, but... nah, fuck it, I am. ;)
Couldn't have put it better myself.
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hell no..... Death Row was EVERY where & they were the mainstream they had Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Tha Dogg Pound, & then 2pac... now Snoop Dogg had alot of hype and sold alot of records at first and no rapper has been like that but him & 50 Cent (i guess) so i dont think so but u never kno cuz Crooked I is tite but i never heard Eastwood or the other guys.... Kurupt isnt that great nemore i liked him over the Fred Wreck beats not the Death Row beats
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no and the reason why is.....they don't have dre
funny how every lable he's been on BLEW the fuck up
ruthless was the number 1 lable, then dre left and made deathrow and then THAT became the number 1 lable. then dre left deathrow......made aftermath, stumbled at first but he managed to eclipse even deathrow at it's peek.
also people are DONE with gangsta rap. and all deathrow is doing these days is trying to replicate what happened in the past .....which people are done with. that's why snoop is able to last cuz he's grown. that's why dre is still around cuz he's grown . but DR is still stuck in the same mind set they were in 96-97 they're like the florida marlins
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Hell nah...
1. Westcoast gangsta rap was much more successful bacc then than it is today.
2. Although dudes like Crooked I, Spider, and the Young Assassins are hella talented, none of their producers come CLOSE to the likes of Dre, Daz, Soopafly, etc...
3. People expect too much from Tha Row nowdays. We all want those glory years of Dre, Snoop, Pac, DPG, etc... We'll obviously never have those bacc. There's really not much respect left for Tha Row anymore.
4. Suge is a terrible businessman.
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Absolutely NOT !!
Suge is on borrowed time right now...His label is afloat because of 2Pac material;
That's why Suge is Reissuing 2Pac(The Best of)...PAC Music keeps the Everyday
Bills Paid (That's IT)...Time has ran its course with that Label...
If Suge was going to Drop a Crooked I Album, it would have already seen the light
of day...Talent wise, it's a shame that he's wasting valuable talent on that label and
don't know what to do with it...Bullying People now a days don't sell records...Talent
does
"Move Units and then Talk S***"
talent sells records?! haha, and crooked i aint talented, have of these underground cats are not talented??? people who sell like 50 cent, nelly, chingy, lil bow wow, man i can go on for days, THEY are talented? idiot
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I've heard Crooked I, Eastwood, Spider and some other Deathrow artists and they do got some mad talent. But if you hear songs from their album Too Gangsta For Radio most of the songs are jus disses 2 dre, snoop, eminem, and artists like dat. Besides Suge dont got no money cuz he alwayz have 2 use it for bail.You cant have a record label, have no money, and not have real songs but disses, and have a successful label. i aint sayin shit but i dont think Tha Row will come back. Holla Holla
Oakland
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Actually, eastwood and spider werent on too gangsta 4 radio... and if you listen to dysfunktional family, there was just one diss song. Also, none of the diss tracks were actually by any of the current artists, there were a couple. i dont remember rite now but there was like, fuck dre, fuck hollywood, and sum track by CJ mack.. they were actually pretty good 2 lol, fuck dre was tite...
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dead row is neva Comin baCk Cuzz, fuCC em slobz
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dead row is neva Comin baCk Cuzz, fuCC em slobz
ok daz
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no....why? well, every reason that has been posted before me 8)