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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: PinkTowelGirl on August 28, 2003, 10:01:06 PM
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Damn, today I got the news that a friend of my who is fighting in Iraq was injured ... this is getting out of hand.. he has a one year old baby and a wife... This whole American pride shit seems like bullshit to me.. pride hasn't brought him home to his family who needs him ... pride doesn't stop his mother cries. or his father worries lock tight ... his wife's sanity.... this war is becoming more and more gross as the year goes by.... everyone tell her.. to be proud.. but what has it brought her? more anguish ... more resentment ... more.. tears ... there has been no sigh of Mario sanitize for about two weeks.. now.. that worries me.. because how i feel about him.. he use to tell me.. he conceder me a great friend.. and i really love him for all that he is ... and no one has heard anything from him in two weeks ... that makes me scared... he is such a beautiful person. Smart ... funny ... soft spoken. spiritual ... always knows the right words to say ... yet. The harder I pray. the more I fear for him not coming back... and i am not in love with mario.. just love him.. because we were close before he left for the service.. and kept in touch when he got out.. and deployed to japan..
Damn this is too stressful...
Pray for Joe Duran...
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We're not over there for american pride, we're over there because we feel it's a threat to the world. Your friend is over there because he signed up to be a member of the armed forces... if he didn't want to be placed in harms way, he wouldn't have signed up, it's a 100% volunteer army. You can't join an army and then complain when you get shot at. Best wishes to your friend.
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We're not over there for american pride, we're over there because we feel it's a threat to the world. Your friend is over there because he signed up to be a member of the armed forces... if he didn't want to be placed in harms way, he wouldn't have signed up, it's a 100% volunteer army. You can't join an army and then complain when you get shot at. Best wishes to your friend.
you know very little about joe.. because he join.. because he got his wife pregnant at a very young age.. mario regrated joining the service because he wasnt suppose to be in iraq.. he is actually suppose to be in korea... but mario is a special lil guy... but anyways.. still we have no buisness over there anymore.. there was no weapons of mass distruction...or any type of coocooies... it is just retarded.. really...
what is so hard about bring home the troops? if anything they are terriorst against the iraq people.. whipping out villages.. and children.. bush isnt being very christain....
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Being Christian would get us all dead like Jesus. I'm sorry, but that's the truth.
Anyways, you can't sign up for an army, and then complain when you get put in a war. How your little mind possibly thinks there's something wrong with a soldier fighting is beyond me. He signed up to be a trained killer. He didn't sign up to be on vacation and get paid for it. You need to learn to understand that.
Maybe you don't agree with the war, frankly I don't even care to persuade you, but to try and act like you can choose whether or not you go to war is rediculous. He signed up for an ARMY what did he expect? I don't HAVE to know the guy to know that he's a soldier, soldiers go to war, that's what they're for.
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Being Christian would get us all dead like Jesus. I'm sorry, but that's the truth.
Anyways, you can't sign up for an army, and then complain when you get put in a war. How your little mind possibly thinks there's something wrong with a soldier fighting is beyond me. He signed up to be a trained killer. He didn't sign up to be on vacation and get paid for it. You need to learn to understand that.
Maybe you don't agree with the war, frankly I don't even care to persuade you, but to try and act like you can choose whether or not you go to war is rediculous. He signed up for an ARMY what did he expect? I don't HAVE to know the guy to know that he's a soldier, soldiers go to war, that's what they're for.
trauma you are a dumb fuck... because bush said 3 times.. he was going to bring them home... this war is stupid.... it is a personal conflict between SUDAN and the BUSH FAMILY!
if bush wants him dead.. why dont he just go and do it his damn self.... instead of being a bitch... this war is stupid.. understand that.. the american people are tired of it.. they want there sons and daughters home... they want this war to end.. the econony is shit.. bush cut vietans... funding.. which will be a nice welcome home gift to our american soldiers.. it is all about compassion for the soldier.. taht means... bring them home... and if some attacks america... like with vin laden.. then we fight.. but tilll then... they should be HOME!!
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vietnam part 2?
ya'll cant leave iraq.... its not possible.. if he really said that he's lying more than ever
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yeah! fuck asian pride!lol jk
end gigaganon
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We're not over there for american pride, we're over there because we feel it's a threat to the world. Your friend is over there because he signed up to be a member of the armed forces... if he didn't want to be placed in harms way, he wouldn't have signed up, it's a 100% volunteer army. You can't join an army and then complain when you get shot at. Best wishes to your friend.
Trauma.. tell me how many fighted in veitnam whole heartedly.. and IS THE FUCKING WAR OF VIETNAM JUSTIFIED????
If U recriut the soldiers, its also ur duty to ascertain that they die for a just cause not for such bullshit into which they're forcedd to
I wont' be surprised if there's a full- fledged mutiny by the american forces sumtime in the future...
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IF YOU SIGN UP FOR AN ARMY, YOU SIGN UP TO DO WHAT THEY TELL YOU.
I'm sorry that's news to people, but you don't get to pick where you go when you're in an army. Hello? Where did this idea come from? It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, it's your job, you signed up to do it, you signed a contract to be a hired killer. I know that's scary, and it's barberic, but armies are for 1 purpose: To kill as many people as possible. If you thought you were going to sign up for the army, and then sit for 4 years at some army base and make money, you're mistaken.
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^^ man man ..this is too much...
For one everyone isn't as cold-blooded (mis)calculating (ir)rational moron as u are....
They THINK all rite bfore they sign up.. but man they're also driven by more blinding forces like Patriotism.. probably "peer pressure" or just a plain drive to prove themselves.. they don't sit down to analyse each and every situation where they'll be finding themselves and they are also no fortune tellers...
i consider them to be just plain men as I am.. driven by passion and ambitious and in possession of sumthing called TRUST: a feeling that there wont' be a Let-Down..
Tell me why on earth do mutiny happen?? becoz mr. trauma they get DISILLUSIONED..
U think this treatment met out o them is justified
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I remember a lot of those people my sister talked about. They were all part of Jr. ROTC, and wanted to join the military because it's an alternative to college and messing up. Many people that grew up around us joined the military, many older men are Vietnam vets. My dad was one, and he practically chased recruiters away from me so that I would even thik about the military. Our area is full of poor people, mainly Latinos, who see the military as a living. It's believed that the military is great to find a job, so they join. Most I remember thought that we couldn't get into war, because when I knew them, Bill Clinton was president, and it looked like Al Gore was going to be the next president. So they figured they could take the chance and join, and all will be good. BUT, as chance would have it, the class of 2001 got to see 9-11 shortly after they joined, and now they are at war. It's sad, and to see someone bad mouth the troops his suppose to support. I support the troops, and I'M AGAINST THE IDEA OF US BEING THERE. Cut taxes, cut military pay, cut support of the troops if they are tired of being there. Why don't you go out there and help Bush if your truely for us being there. Oh that's right, your educated. See the pattern. Bush didn't go to Vietnam, because his dad could get him through college. Let's listen to Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, lets get more intellegence in there before sending solders to do this job. Bush promised the bring home the troops, lets get them home. The military is mainly kids that grew up poor, fighting for older rich people. Get it.
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The U.S Military is here to do justice. THe situation in Iraq is not worth fighting for. If Bush gets re elected...forget about it four more years in Iraq
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The U.S Military is here to do justice. THe situation in Iraq is not worth fighting for. If Bush gets re elected...forget about it four more years in Iraq
exactly... why are we in iraq anyways?
oh yeah i forgot... Big Old companies... my god how forgetful of me...
damn you talk to these troops that been to iraq and they will tell you why.... same with the vietnam war.... my instructors... and my dad a US Marine told me why they were in Nam...and it had very little about communism.... it was all about titanium alloy .. the US jsut went in there.. whip out villages... took the metal.. then left.. saying.. some shit or we are looking for charlie.. that is unhuman and unchristan so to speak..... and what kind of nation uses that to go in and attack another nation.. oh we're fighting communism... oh they our unholy eniemy... that sounds like a new age manifesto destiny theroy.... just go into and nation.. blew it up and take over.. the old.. all in the name of jesus.. because after all... we are Gods nation....
damn... down with war.... down with bush... and down with american pride till we as a nation can learn tolerate good american Values like.... taking in the tired... hungery and sick...
damn bush is a sick puppy man... i didnt want to join the service.. because no way in fucking God.. would i let an idiot like that... tell me what to do.. i would have to spit in his face first...
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We're not over there for american pride, we're over there because we feel it's a threat to the world.
lol@ this shit...i know i sure was feelin tha threat.... ::)
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I'm totally against tha idea of america being there also...
BUT...
I agree wit Trauma...U SIGN UP VOLUNTEERLY, AND WHEN U DO SIGN UP, U AUTOMATICALLY SERVIN 4 EM, THEREFORE, U ARE A HO, AND THEY ARE YUR PIMP...WUTEVER THEY SAY, U DO, UR BOY WAZ SUPPOSE 2 BE PLACED IN KOREA? GOOD 4 HIM, BUT THA PIMP MOVED HIM & THERE'S NOTHIN ANYONE COULD DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THA FACT THAT HE SIGNED UP & AGREED 2 EVERYTHING...gotta keep it real...
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I'm totally against tha idea of america being there also...
BUT...
I agree wit Trauma...U SIGN UP VOLUNTEERLY, AND WHEN U DO SIGN UP, U AUTOMATICALLY SERVIN 4 EM, THEREFORE, U ARE A HO, AND THEY ARE YUR PIMP...WUTEVER THEY SAY, U DO, UR BOY WAZ SUPPOSE 2 BE PLACED IN KOREA? GOOD 4 HIM, BUT THA PIMP MOVED HIM & THERE'S NOTHIN ANYONE COULD DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THA FACT THAT HE SIGNED UP & AGREED 2 EVERYTHING...gotta keep it real...
All this I understand.. and these rules are not just followed by the American Military but all over the world.
But u cannot use these argunebts to justify our presence in Iraq.. that's exactly what trauma's doing... just becuz he's all signed up doesn't mean he's happy fighting over there.
*peace*
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I'm totally against tha idea of america being there also...
BUT...
I agree wit Trauma...U SIGN UP VOLUNTEERLY, AND WHEN U DO SIGN UP, U AUTOMATICALLY SERVIN 4 EM, THEREFORE, U ARE A HO, AND THEY ARE YUR PIMP...WUTEVER THEY SAY, U DO, UR BOY WAZ SUPPOSE 2 BE PLACED IN KOREA? GOOD 4 HIM, BUT THA PIMP MOVED HIM & THERE'S NOTHIN ANYONE COULD DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THA FACT THAT HE SIGNED UP & AGREED 2 EVERYTHING...gotta keep it real...
yeah it is very easy for you to say that.. because you dont know these people.. but on the other hand... we are having this war... that we shouldnt be having... bush had to admit that... there was no weapons on mass destruction. this war was for his own personal game..... this war is not fair to anyone.... it is not helping the economy any... where is the justification for this war? i havent heard not one good argument.... i mean.. these soldier are fighting a meaningless war... and it is really sad... bush doesnt have sons in the military or even been in the service himself...yet he was so quick to start this war? that kind of BS is that.... these people are my friends... good friends at that... fighting a war.. which we dont even have a justified reason for.....
and if trauma and anyone here is for this war so.. much.. why dont you all join the military then? be man and step up to the plate.... support you stupid president.... believe his lies and paraganda...
so to all you people who believe in this war... join the service.. before you post you comments....
as for me... i dont believe is support someone like bush.. i didnt vote for him.. and i dont support his action...
when i made the choice not to join the service.. one of the main reason why.. is because i dont want bush to be my commander in chief...
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I'm totally against tha idea of america being there also...
BUT...
I agree wit Trauma...U SIGN UP VOLUNTEERLY, AND WHEN U DO SIGN UP, U AUTOMATICALLY SERVIN 4 EM, THEREFORE, U ARE A HO, AND THEY ARE YUR PIMP...WUTEVER THEY SAY, U DO, UR BOY WAZ SUPPOSE 2 BE PLACED IN KOREA? GOOD 4 HIM, BUT THA PIMP MOVED HIM & THERE'S NOTHIN ANYONE COULD DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THA FACT THAT HE SIGNED UP & AGREED 2 EVERYTHING...gotta keep it real...
All this I understand.. and these rules are not just followed by the American Military but all over the world.
But u cannot use these argunebts to justify our presence in Iraq.. that's exactly what trauma's doing... just becuz he's all signed up doesn't mean he's happy fighting over there.
*peace*
well said...
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wtf, i agree wit Scorpion or who ever he is
how can u first sign up and then complain?! it makes no sense
how heartless it sounds, if he has a son, he shouldntve signed up, as easy as that
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All this I understand.. and these rules are not just followed by the American Military but all over the world.
But u cannot use these argunebts to justify our presence in Iraq.. that's exactly what trauma's doing... just becuz he's all signed up doesn't mean he's happy fighting over there.
*peace*
What? nah mann.....lemme state again that I AM STRONGLY AGAINST THA WAR IN IRAQ.....I am not trying 2 justify anything.....and I kno, 4 SURE THIS MAN PROLLY IS NOT HAPPY OUT THERE.....but he can not sit there and say that this is not wat he signed up 4, if he says somethin like that then he does not understand AMERICA.....or shiiiit, any country 4 that matter.....U ARE THERE 2 SERVE, U HAVE 2 DO WHATEVER THA PIMP COMMANDS WHETHER SHE'S WRONG OR RIGHT.....
Notice I said "she" since America is a female pimp.....lolol
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I'm totally against tha idea of america being there also...
BUT...
I agree wit Trauma...U SIGN UP VOLUNTEERLY, AND WHEN U DO SIGN UP, U AUTOMATICALLY SERVIN 4 EM, THEREFORE, U ARE A HO, AND THEY ARE YUR PIMP...WUTEVER THEY SAY, U DO, UR BOY WAZ SUPPOSE 2 BE PLACED IN KOREA? GOOD 4 HIM, BUT THA PIMP MOVED HIM & THERE'S NOTHIN ANYONE COULD DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THA FACT THAT HE SIGNED UP & AGREED 2 EVERYTHING...gotta keep it real...
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unhuman and unchristan so to speak
the united states aint christian, bush just supports it cuz it does a damn good job of controlling the masses..
damn... down with war.... down with bush... and down with american pride till we as a nation can learn tolerate good american Values like.... taking in the tired... hungery and sick...
yes! down with bush! down with government! anarchy is the true way..
even if bush is the lunatic, let the upcoming election be the reflection of that, you make it sound like you are the person representhing the people of the united states but, im not sure bout the present situation, but wasnt bush's rating going up through the war? trauma was right, no offense to m-dogg : he thinks his way through things and makes decisions, but you look at whats in front of your 2 eyes and base your opinions on that, its fucking pitiful and obvious you have no idea what your talking about
you just gonna have to accept the circumstances because shit happens and thats the truth.. no one kidnapped your friend, put a gun in his hand and sent him off to iraq and said go kill some camel jockeys..
i think it is total bullshit for you to say that this whole war is the bush family trying to get some shits and giggles by killing.. the biggest lunatic in the world.
DONT YOU THINK THAT BUSH WOULD RATHER JUST PAST BILLS, THEN HAVE ALL OF CONGRESS, ALL OF THE PEOPLE, THE MEDIA, HIS CLOSE ONES BREATHING DOWN HIS NECK, BASING THEIR LIVES ON EVERY MOVE HE MAKES.. are you that fuckin dumb?
props to scorpion and everyone whos agreein with him.. none of us want to go kill random people, but the government is doing it, and thats what we have to do.. theres nothing we can do but accept it, and even though it seems fucked up, it makes alot of sense.. im not tryin to justify a war either, but this is the way the world works, and i would much rather have bush makin the decisions right now than gore..
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ok then you bush lovers... Join the service.... and support your beloved bush... take the challenge and be a man... fight this war..... risk your lives and... then come home to your... vet. benefits cut into nothing.. by your honorible.. commander in chief... let his hogwash... rot your brain.... be a better american.. and fight....
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if... i... was... old... enough... i... might.. but... then... again... i... have... a... life...
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if... i... was... old... enough... i... might.. but... then... again... i... have... a... life...
coward.... cant even take the challenge.....
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man, if by now there is people that still believe that this war is really about 'weapons of mass destruction' then damn!
ONLY COUNTRY that has proven to have weapons of mass destruction so far is United States Of America. Those aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, laser guided rockets etc....THATS weapons of mass destruction. People in IRAQ dont have shit to eat, water to drink, where the fuck would they get weapons of mass destruction from.
And it has been proven that they dont exist, no1 has found shit.
In my opinion the American government are the largest terrorists there is. And i truly mean that, I am actually much more scared from teh US government than from any terrorist group.
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man, if by now there is people that still believe that this war is really about 'weapons of mass destruction' then damn!
ONLY COUNTRY that has proven to have weapons of mass destruction so far is United States Of America. Those aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, laser guided rockets etc....THATS weapons of mass destruction. People in IRAQ dont have shit to eat, water to drink, where the fuck would they get weapons of mass destruction from.
And it has been proven that they dont exist, no1 has found shit.
In my opinion the American government are the largest terrorists there is. And i truly mean that, I am actually much more scared from teh US government than from any terrorist group.
preach on my little aussie brother.... tell it like it is......
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if... i... was... old... enough... i... might.. but... then... again... i... have... a... life...
coward.... cant even take the challenge.....
how about you join the army. your friend signed up for it so he is going to be the u.s.'s bitch for a while.
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if... i... was... old... enough... i... might.. but... then... again... i... have... a... life...
coward.... cant even take the challenge.....
how about you join the army. your friend signed up for it so he is going to be the u.s.'s bitch for a while.
straight up... i dont like bush or his actions.... i am for peace not war.... but if you support the bush so much.. go be his puppet and service....
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ok then you bush lovers... Join the service.... and support your beloved bush... take the challenge and be a man... fight this war..... risk your lives and... then come home to your... vet. benefits cut into nothing.. by your honorible.. commander in chief... let his hogwash... rot your brain.... be a better american.. and fight....
See, Pink, the reason you're a fucking idiot is becuase you think the army has to do with whether or not you like the president. What the fuck are you smoking? It's about america, it doesn't matter who the president is. Clinton got us in some fucked up positions too, the truth is, you sign up for the army, you're going to go to war.
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ok then you bush lovers... Join the service.... and support your beloved bush... take the challenge and be a man... fight this war..... risk your lives and... then come home to your... vet. benefits cut into nothing.. by your honorible.. commander in chief... let his hogwash... rot your brain.... be a better american.. and fight....
See, Pink, the reason you're a fucking idiot is becuase you think the army has to do with whether or not you like the president. What the fuck are you smoking? It's about america, it doesn't matter who the president is. Clinton got us in some fucked up positions too, the truth is, you sign up for the army, you're going to go to war.
couldnt have said it better myself
and miss Pink are you a Hippie or something? if it wasent for the army we wouldnt be the US right now i bet some of your ancestors were soldiers so just pleaze STFU
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No, she's hispanic, so of course she hates the U.S. for that too. We stole california from mexico, remember? Also, she has it in her head because her family tells her, that republicans are racist, so she hates them too, which is why she hates George Bush. She could give a fuck about other people's feelings in other countries, she told me I'm going to burn in hell because of my religion, it shows what she thinks about others. She's really quite an easy read, it must suck to be so uncomplicated.
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No, she's hispanic, so of course she hates the U.S. for that too. We stole california from mexico, remember? Also, she has it in her head because her family tells her, that republicans are racist, so she hates them too, which is why she hates George Bush. She could give a fuck about other people's feelings in other countries, she told me I'm going to burn in hell because of my religion, it shows what she thinks about others. She's really quite an easy read, it must suck to be so uncomplicated.
i say we put her ass in a box and send her ass to mexico at first my grandma didnt want bush to win but now she faced it that he won and now even she wants to go to war and fuck some of those bastards up i dont think republicans are that bad and whats your religion?
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No, she's hispanic, so of course she hates the U.S. for that too. We stole california from mexico, remember? Also, she has it in her head because her family tells her, that republicans are racist, so she hates them too, which is why she hates George Bush. She could give a fuck about other people's feelings in other countries, she told me I'm going to burn in hell because of my religion, it shows what she thinks about others. She's really quite an easy read, it must suck to be so uncomplicated.
you know what trauma you are out of line.. because i almost did the military.... all i needed was to go down and have my medical charts done ... then i went down to see master guns.. my mentor.. who served... 22 years in the US marine corps ... is one of my best friends and been a parent to me ... and what do you know.. he is Mexican..... and damn proud of it ... he made me think about college.. and he told me he wanted to see my become an officer and what not ... but then i realized i don't like bush ... so why should... i serve him.. and you know what trauma..the KKK was real big in Fontana.. where i grew up at ... and you talk to a lot of them people.. and they are all republics.. and also Protestant ... that is a historical fact ... you know i been really nice and have said nothing about your stupid religion.. just because i don't want no one attacking my church.... at this moment.. you are out of line trauma. and grew the fuck up ... because right now you make NIK seem more intelligent
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some on is on there rag...
but anyways your an idiot and a hyporcrite so you were gonna join the army but one day you just decided not to?? WTF?? it seems to me this guy knows what he is talking about and coming from another Latino im ashamed of you...
and WTF is a NIK you keep talking about it....
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some on is on there rag...
but anyways your an idiot and a hyporcrite so you were gonna join the army but one day you just decided not to?? WTF?? it seems to me this guy knows what he is talking about and coming from another Latino im ashamed of you...
and WTF is a NIK you keep talking about it....
Ashamed of me?? your fucking dreaming.. puto... because i study my culture ... through the arts... i walked the lands of my families struggle ... because I had to see exactly where they were coming from...I wanted to show my appreciation towards them ... your the idiot. Not me.... Master Gunnery Sergeant Ojeda... my mentor ... told me to thinking about it before I joined the Army.. and i did... I decided college was a better route for now ... and perhaps ROTC in college.. I served my community as a cadet and i would do it again....when I am more educated.... And ready for excellence....
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some on is on there rag...
but anyways your an idiot and a hyporcrite so you were gonna join the army but one day you just decided not to?? WTF?? it seems to me this guy knows what he is talking about and coming from another Latino im ashamed of you...
and WTF is a NIK you keep talking about it....
Ashamed of me?? your fucking dreaming.. puto... because i study my culture ... through the arts... i walked the lands of my families struggle ... because I had to see exactly where they were coming from...I wanted to show my appreciation towards them ... your the idiot. Not me....my mentor ... told me to thinking about it before I joined the Army.. and i did... I decided college was a better route for now ... and perhaps ROTC in college.. I served my community as a cadet and i would do it again....when I am more educated.... And ready for excellence....
you made no fucking sense i dont care about that ok? i really dont?
and what (the things i got bolded) have anything to do with what i said your ancestors probably fought in the wars and if it wasent for them u probably wouldnt get to say the shit u saying right now or belive what you want