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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 01, 2003, 03:34:15 PM
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This shit is gettin REAL stupid... how the fuck ya'll gone say 213 gone flop gone suck bla bla...
RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
I just spoke to warren, he said he wasnt a fan of Sunny Dayz track himself, but people down there seemed to feel it so he went wit the flow.
213 should be banging, how can ya'll doubt this?
Warren G is the "head nigga in charge" as he puts it... then Dre.. and pharrel will have 1 track. and whatever other producer will fit his style to match 213 and the westcoast shit..
i dunno i just think its sad that ya'll actin like 213 gone suck when u waited for it for a decade... just be patient wait till november should drop then.. im positive itll be out 2003 for real.
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True Nima. Fuck the haters and the doubters. Can't wait to hear it.
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i agree 213 is going to be dope
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wht ? give me Warren's #, i wanna talk to him myself
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word,i aint gonna say nuttin untill the cd drops
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exactly. peeps are acting like fuking babys. they wait and wait and complain that there is no 213 album ever to made and now we FINALLY get one and they are callin it a flop BEFORE they hear it. STUPIDS. like this one kid makin threads after threads about how Sunny Days sucked so hard but he never heard it. peeps like that don't deserve a 213 album. this shit is gonna be mad dope. and I'm excited about it. and Hate the neptunes but I'm sure they can come up with something tight enough to fit the styles of warren Nate and snoop. so fuck all haters and just enjoy the music.
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i hope it will be the XXX-BOMB !!!
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I dont know if so much peeps have been sayin that is gonna be wack..everybody seems to agree that sunny day is wack as hell dough. But im sayin that im not havin so much of a high hopes with this one..depends of how many producers that are involved in the project and what direction the y wanna head with the album...Makin hits or just makin good westcoast muzik....
Peace
LazyLatino
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Untill it drops: :-X ....
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yeah i been sayin it on nuff niggaz to, bare kats be chattin shit on 213, makes me laf at em, real dumb comments
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
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I have to agree with Dr._Lincoln .
Aint none of them tracks released so far that tight.
It seems like SNoop is the head nigga in charge. Why did warren do that wack sunny days track if he didnt even like it.
everyone knows Snoop will have the last say on this project.
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
yes.........
and the fact is, the album is GONNA BE WACK....Neptunes + Timbaland = on westcoast album ======== Super Wack......Just look at Snoop.......
Nima, just face the fact
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run up on you was dope.
im fly was good, as good as 213 can be on that beat.
sunny days was wack as fuck.
i got some doubts about this cd but i think its gonna be dope.
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I've never said it will be wack or even think that it will be. But I bet it will be along the lines on Paid The Cost To Be The Boss. I just don't trust Snoop now, it just seems he's more concerned with being popular, high sales and making money then he is with making a classic hip-hop album.
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It'll be a dope album even if the full lp breakes down the same way these three songs do. 2/3rds real dope and 1/3 kinda wack. Thats a solid record IMO. I'm sure it will live up (or be close) to our expectations. 8)
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I've never said it will be wack or even think that it will be. But I bet it will be along the lines on Paid The Cost To Be The Boss. I just don't trust Snoop now, it just seems he's more concerned with being popular, high sales and making money then he is with making a classic hip-hop album.
yea...i kinda agree with this...we'll see how it turns out...
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
yo Lincoln your not feelin any of them 213 tracks?... IMO "Run up on U" is definitely tight for sure...
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
yo Lincoln your not feelin any of them 213 tracks?... IMO "Run up on U" is definitely tight for sure...
no i'm not feeling any of them, but then again i'm not really a big fan of Snoop Warren or Nate
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sunny days was shit :-\
but the other two were tight...now every album has 1 wack ass song and shit...but i believe this album is gonna live up to my expections (which is DOPE as fuck ;D)
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So far, it doesn't look to good, imo..
The 3 tracks 213 have put out so far, was good, average and straight wack..
"Run up on you" was good (nothing more), the 2nd was average and the 3rd was wack.
And Neptunes & Timbaland's trackrecord with Snoop Dogg doesn't impress me at all.
Timbo might be among my top 10 producers, but the 3 tracks with Snoop is some of his worst work to date.
I like all of Neptunes work with Noreaga, Clipse, Busta and more, but off the 4 tracks they have done with Snoop Dogg, only 1 has been good, and 1 was average.
Dr. Dre producing the lead single is the only thing that make me hyped so far, and of course Warren G producing (2-3 tracks probably).. but MTV said that it will PTCTBTB producers on there.. and that's not a good sign.
So I remain sceptical, but still hope for the best.. 8)
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... just be patient wait till november should drop then.. im positive itll be out 2003 for real.
U also said u were positive 'Say Hi to the Bad Guy' would drop this year, and people on the Death Row forum got told by Crooked I himself that the 'Nu Mixxes' was Death Rows last release for the year :-\
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the downside of this album in my opinion is gonna be timbaland and the neptunes.i mean ppl who are anticipating this album want a str8 west coast album,but i guess snoop has gotten retarded lately and thinks that tracks like "beatiful" will keep his career goin.BUT since Dr Dre,and warren g are gonna produce than i guess there are deffinately gonna be 3-4 great tracks at least (that's all i ask for) an nate dogg's hooks rarely dissapoint.
it's gonna be a album solid album at least ,but i'm hoping for a classic
so i guess i'm not too hyped about this album but i'll probably buy it
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but i guess snoop has gotten retarded lately and thinks that tracks like "beatiful" will keep his career goin.
It did give it a boost actually.
Ontopic now: I think people expect too much. I'm afraid it will flop and don't ask me why, it's just a feeling. From the 3 tracks that have leaked I only didn't like Sunny Days, but I think if that would be the first single (what it won't be) it would do pretty good. The song would do well in the charts, especially in the winter. What 213 needs is a banger as a first single (so that's not something what the hardcore fans will like) and the album will do well. I doubt 213 will have a song like that and if they do it will be produced by The Neptunes and that will definately not be the first single.
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the downside of this album in my opinion is gonna be timbaland and the neptunes.i mean ppl who are anticipating this album want a str8 west coast album,but i guess snoop has gotten retarded lately and thinks that tracks like "beatiful" will keep his career goin.BUT since Dr Dre,and warren g are gonna produce than i guess there are deffinately gonna be 3-4 great tracks at least (that's all i ask for) an nate dogg's hooks rarely dissapoint.
it's gonna be a album solid album at least ,but i'm hoping for a classic
so i guess i'm not too hyped about this album but i'll probably buy it
1: If we look at it without the westcoast glasses, then "Beautifull" track did boost his carrer.... before he was the "1993 doggystyle rapper" to the mainstream peeps, now a days hes also known for that track and some collabo (50 Cent).
2: First you write stuff like " but im hoping for a classic", and then "so i guess i'm not too hyped about this album but i'll probably buy it".... wierd, huh ??????
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Some of you have low expectations. You'd be happy with 3-4 great tracks? With 1/3 of it being kinda wack? Why? I expect more than that. Is it not possible to make this album with no filler and no candyass beats?
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Some of you have low expectations. You'd be happy with 3-4 great tracks? With 1/3 of it being kinda wack? Why? I expect more than that. Is it not possible to make this album with no filler and no candyass beats?
Hear hear. It's a shame when people have to justify their favourite artists' lacklustre performances by settling for what is, in effect, a £15 EP.
I'd love a classic album from 213 and have some hope that it will at least be solid. If there are only 3-4 decent tracks then I can tell you now - it won't be staying in the system, and i won't stand up for the record by saying "there were three good songs for my money".
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Real talk Nima, props for that. I gotta admit that I went with the flow and thought the album would be wack just like a lot of other folks, but a while back I managed to assure myself to wait for the product and judge then. Hopefully others can free their minds as well.
That sounded somehow way too serious, it's like an alcoholic admitting he's got a problem or some shit. :D Oh well. Y'all get the point.
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Some of you have low expectations. You'd be happy with 3-4 great tracks? With 1/3 of it being kinda wack? Why? I expect more than that. Is it not possible to make this album with no filler and no candyass beats?
i second that
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
yes.........
and the fact is, the album is GONNA BE WACK....Neptunes + Timbaland = on westcoast album ======== Super Wack......Just look at Snoop.......
Nima, just face the fact
Thats ignorance. Neptunes gave Snoop one of his best songs in a long time with Beatiful
I've never said it will be wack or even think that it will be. But I bet it will be along the lines on Paid The Cost To Be The Boss. I just don't trust Snoop now, it just seems he's more concerned with being popular, high sales and making money then he is with making a classic hip-hop album.
PTCTBTB was a great album. It was the only Snoop album i've officially bought since Doggfather.
Last Meal & the one before that had SUM good beats, but Snoops had the weakest voice & flow he ever had. Even a bit on Doggfather he was like that. But since he quit weed, most of the songs on Boss were the best raps Snoops spit since 1996
& if he was concerned with being popular, why is it this album is his lowest/slowest selling album ever
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213 is gonna be the Bomb!
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I never said it is gonna be wack, but I am 98% sure that I am going to be dissapointed with it. Every snoop album since doggystyle has dissapointed me hard. Music and me was a huge dissapointment. Only warren hasn't dropped a dissapointing album. I know the album is going to have some fucking bangers, and I know that there is going to be some songs that just piss me off so bad that crap like that would make it on the album. I really, really hope I am wrong. I hope I have to eat my words, because 213 is the best album to drop in years. And I would rather have 213 never drop an album than drop a crappy or mediocre album.
Ain't no fun, Groupie, regulators, Annie Mae, can't go for that, eastside party, never leave me alone, friends, nobody does it better, yo sassy ways are all great songs with at least 2 of the 213 members. If the entire album does not live up to the quality of these songs then I am going to be dissapointed. I expect nothing less from 213.
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Although I expect this album to be pretty bad, I'm still hoping for the best. "So Fly" was wacc IMO, but that's because I hate that damn beat. I have to admit the trio came pretty tight over it though. And I never heard "Sunny Days" or "Run Up On You". And BTW...I thought PTCTBTB was the worst Westcoast album I've ever heard.
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i havent even read all the replys but word to the topic of this thread.....fuck the hating im waiting til it drops and im expeciting a very good album.....if not classic and i think im going to get it (a a classic album)....its atleast going to be a good album......i cant wait to hear it and any time 213 members get together to make a song it usually is the shit....just like WSCG thats why im anticipating these two albums so much.....cant wait to hear the first single since its supposed to be produced by Dr. Dre so just think about it where have we heard this before?? a Dr. Dre Produced track with snoop, nate, and warren on it? does "Ain't No Fun" sound familiar? lol.....minus kurupt i can def see this track being fuckin amazing i just cant wait for this cd and when is the last time we heard snoop ride over a dre beat???..... :o
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Thats ignorance. Neptunes gave Snoop one of his best songs in a long time with Beatiful
That's not ignorance.
"Beautiful" is not one of Snoop's best song in a long time in my humble opinion. I would have cut that bubblegum shit from the album.
PTCTBTB was a great album. It was the only Snoop album i've officially bought since Doggfather.
Okay, that's your opinion but I'D perfer FAR less commercial shit.
& if he was concerned with being popular, why is it this album is his lowest/slowest selling album ever
Are you joking? He has two Neptunes produced singles, promoted the hell out of it and he wasn't trying to sell a ton of albums? Just because he didn't sell like he wanted to doesn't mean he didn't attempt to.
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^^yo dawg u do realise that the whole point of makin these albums is to sell them???............they gotta live........
now speakin of the neptunes joint beautiful with snoop.............aint no way anyone would leave that off their album if they did that joint, itd sell nuff, had a catchy hook and its a dope summer joint, no one can deny that, whether u dig it or not........
on ptctbtb..............i liked the album alot cuz of snoop, it had less stand out tracks that last meal but was more solid top to bottom............
anyways imma go watch a movie now, but these typa things can go on foreva, but at the end, when 213 finally drops and ppl who are willin to giv a unbiased review of it, i'll respect dat, personally i cant see it bein nuttin less than dope, i jus hope it dont dissapoint.........
peace
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No it shouldn't be, it wouldn't for me, I would make the best album I can make and hope to sell with that. You can sell without rhyming over those candyass beat with the same sounding chorus as everything else on the radio.
Look at Nas, he released God's Son around the same time. He focused on making the best album he could make and yes it was no Illmatic but it was still one of the best of 2002 and STILL went platinium on the strenght on a pure hip-hop street single.
Snoop can still make a great album without making commercial records and still sell.
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Snoop can still make a great album without making commercial records and still sell.
I dont hate PTCTBDB as much as you do, but I agree with that statement ^^^^
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Im not hating on 213 or nothing like that but I aint buying no wack ass music, I dont care if it was made on the edge of the pacific ocean. If sunny dayz is a sign of whats to come than Im downloading this shit and if its wack I diddnt loose. Run up on u was cool but not long term heat. So fly has blown up but thats just a mixtape song. so it really doesnt need to be mentioned. but if all they have is one or two dope songs than Im downloading it. Im going to wait for the first single if it aint bangin :P
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
yes.........
and the fact is, the album is GONNA BE WACK....Neptunes + Timbaland = on westcoast album ======== Super Wack......Just look at Snoop.......
Nima, just face the fact
Thats ignorance. Neptunes gave Snoop one of his best songs in a long time with Beatiful
I've never said it will be wack or even think that it will be. But I bet it will be along the lines on Paid The Cost To Be The Boss. I just don't trust Snoop now, it just seems he's more concerned with being popular, high sales and making money then he is with making a classic hip-hop album.
PTCTBTB was a great album. It was the only Snoop album i've officially bought since Doggfather.
PTCTBTB was a great album? are u serious? thats the worst snoop album i've ever heard...even the first no limit album was better then that wack ass shit...production just fucked up that album...
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im going to go out on a limb and say that the stuff that we have heard from them is the commercial stuff to promote this album u know so the mainstream can get into it, i expect some dope ass 213 songs
on paid the cost snoop didnt use his westcoast influenced songs as singles, he used the neptunes song
hope we get to see warren produce, the only eastcoast producer that i actually wanna hear on this album is Hi Tek cause he makes some smooth ass chillin beats ( cool, i miss that bitch etc...)
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
yes.........
and the fact is, the album is GONNA BE WACK....Neptunes + Timbaland = on westcoast album ======== Super Wack......Just look at Snoop.......
Nima, just face the fact
Thats ignorance. Neptunes gave Snoop one of his best songs in a long time with Beatiful
I've never said it will be wack or even think that it will be. But I bet it will be along the lines on Paid The Cost To Be The Boss. I just don't trust Snoop now, it just seems he's more concerned with being popular, high sales and making money then he is with making a classic hip-hop album.
PTCTBTB was a great album. It was the only Snoop album i've officially bought since Doggfather.
Last Meal & the one before that had SUM good beats, but Snoops had the weakest voice & flow he ever had. Even a bit on Doggfather he was like that. But since he quit weed, most of the songs on Boss were the best raps Snoops spit since 1996
& if he was concerned with being popular, why is it this album is his lowest/slowest selling album ever
lol omfg please tell me your kidding, thats the funniest shit ive heard in a long time.
ahahahaha
...haaaa
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
yes.........
and the fact is, the album is GONNA BE WACK....Neptunes + Timbaland = on westcoast album ======== Super Wack......Just look at Snoop.......
Nima, just face the fact
Thats ignorance. Neptunes gave Snoop one of his best songs in a long time with Beatiful
I've never said it will be wack or even think that it will be. But I bet it will be along the lines on Paid The Cost To Be The Boss. I just don't trust Snoop now, it just seems he's more concerned with being popular, high sales and making money then he is with making a classic hip-hop album.
PTCTBTB was a great album. It was the only Snoop album i've officially bought since Doggfather.
Last Meal & the one before that had SUM good beats, but Snoops had the weakest voice & flow he ever had. Even a bit on Doggfather he was like that. But since he quit weed, most of the songs on Boss were the best raps Snoops spit since 1996
& if he was concerned with being popular, why is it this album is his lowest/slowest selling album ever
lol omfg please tell me your kidding, thats the funniest shit ive heard in a long time.
ahahahaha
...haaaa
Laugh ignoramous, u think raps all about a beat, fuck you!
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Thats ignorance. Neptunes gave Snoop one of his best songs in a long time with Beatiful
That's not ignorance.
"Beautiful" is not one of Snoop's best song in a long time in my humble opinion. I would have cut that bubblegum shit from the album.
PTCTBTB was a great album. It was the only Snoop album i've officially bought since Doggfather.
Okay, that's your opinion but I'D perfer FAR less commercial shit.
& if he was concerned with being popular, why is it this album is his lowest/slowest selling album ever
Are you joking? He has two Neptunes produced singles, promoted the hell out of it and he wasn't trying to sell a ton of albums? Just because he didn't sell like he wanted to doesn't mean he didn't attempt to.
Its funny, no one called it bubble gum until it became a hit single. I remember all the topics saying the song is great & everythang. I loved the song, now its a little tiring coz i hear it all the time, but its still a great song. Who cares if he rappin about love, thats what he wanted to spit on it.
He promoted the hell out of Tha Last Meal, of course the record execs want it to sell, they want the money, but Snoop uses the beats & producers he feels. Besides Neptunes are great producers, who cares if they produce for pop & rnb artists as well as rappers
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RIght now we've heard 3 tracks. 2 tight ones, 1 wack song.
thats your opinion. None of those 3 tracks got me even semi-hyped for the album, average at best.
yes.........
and the fact is, the album is GONNA BE WACK....Neptunes + Timbaland = on westcoast album ======== Super Wack......Just look at Snoop.......
Nima, just face the fact
Thats ignorance. Neptunes gave Snoop one of his best songs in a long time with Beatiful
I've never said it will be wack or even think that it will be. But I bet it will be along the lines on Paid The Cost To Be The Boss. I just don't trust Snoop now, it just seems he's more concerned with being popular, high sales and making money then he is with making a classic hip-hop album.
PTCTBTB was a great album. It was the only Snoop album i've officially bought since Doggfather.
PTCTBTB was a great album? are u serious? thats the worst snoop album i've ever heard...even the first no limit album was better then that wack ass shit...production just fucked up that album...
Who cares. Rap aint just about production. Its about flow voice & lyrics, & as far as that goes, thats Snoops 2nd best effort next to Doggystyle. Beats were pretty cool to, sure Top Dogg, Doggfather & SOME of the Last Meal have better production, but to say an album with production from Meech, Battlecat, Soopafly, Neptunes & Premier is worse than the No Limit album is REDICOLOUS!!!
Would i be joking if i was willing to buy it for AU $30!! when i had the mp3's already?
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to the guy who said what my view on 213 was weird,
in my book an album i'm hyed is an album that has me counting the days till it's release, that gets me pissed off when it's pushed back (see crooked I)
the 213 album is not something im hyped about, i could'nt give a fuck less if they released it in 2 years or next week, i really don't
it's an album done by some of my favorites so i'll buy it.(see "better dayz")
213 is an album that has enough of my attention for me to hope it's a classic BUT in no way am i hyped.....
if that doesn't make sense i understand , i haven't slept for the pas tcouple of days so my brain ain't workin right
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yo yo y yo yo chillout yall.. the whole message of my post was.. dont judge a book by its cover...
WAIT FOR THE RELEASE before bashing or praising it.
thats it!
ps: t-dizzog.. bout crook... i didnt know suge was gone be locked down for 10 months at that time, did i?
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At what time? What are you talking about? ???
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My bad, it was TobyTizzle who said that..
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99% of the time you can tell when something is gonna be wack....and 213 is gonna be WACK...mark that down
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ps: Tizzle.. bout crook... i didnt know suge was gone be locked down for 10 months at that time, did i?
It was not that long ago u said it, but he could of been locked up then...anyways I was more making a point that I dont think 213 will drop when they say :-*
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say man dis dat crip cuz reppin dat tre 57 fuck all yall slobs pirus and damus hatin on tha dogg........ dubnima set these niggaz str8 my nigg ???