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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: jrfloyd76 on September 06, 2003, 06:47:57 AM
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a bunch of former producrs-neff-u,big chuck,eric b. and mel-man have lefted aftermath to form there own group called the drama family. they claim they dont gt full credit like neff-u claims he produced back down, if i can't and heat on 50 cents album. they said rakim lefted because dr. dre had him in there with c-list producers. dre would throw him 1 track and not even sit wit him. its alot more about them in the new source mag wit 50 on the cover. freddie fox and jayo felony will be on there label, also jay-z,missy elliott and others will be on their cd comming out at the top of the new year. what do yall think of this. if this has already been posted my bad!
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i want to see the article
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its alot more about them in the new source mag
That right there causes me to doubt this shit a LOT.
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its alot more about them in the new source mag
That right there causes me to doubt this shit a LOT.
thats what i thought too
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neff-u, big chuck and eric. b claim they haven't been getting enough credit? They haven't got any, i've never heard of them. The 1st reason why i doubt this, the second being that If I Can't is credited as being co-produced by Mike Elizondo and why would Dre credit another producer and show none to another.
But then again the fact that their names arent known (unlike Mel-Man, Scott Storch, Mike Elizondo and Camara Kambon) could just be because Dre feels they need to pay their dues 1st (a lot of producers, in rap at least, do this).
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Anybody else consider this a lil bit weird as Mel Man was just recently helping Stat Quo get associated with Dre and Aftermath??
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Dre knows how to COMPOSE great music and puts together great music but Ive always thought he gets credit where it isnt due...
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Quote from: T-Dizzog on Today at 10:08:10am
Quote from: jrfloyd76 on Today at 08:47:57am
its alot more about them in the new source mag
That right there causes me to doubt this shit a LOT.
me too, i read some were that benzino owns most of that mag or summin... n he n eminem and co aint exactly friendly haha
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if it is in the source.. sounds like its trying to cause trouble.. be interestin for sure
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wtf jayo felony joining Aftermath?
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I doubt that this is true ::)
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wtf jayo felony joining Aftermath?
I don't get it neither...I think he wanted to say that Jayo will be on that album from the group "The Drama Family", no idea if this is true though ::)
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sounds like complete bullshit
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Eric B.? As in Eric B. & Rakim?
I'm sure this article is a bunch of nonsense anyways. The Source is just trying to get back at the artists that speak out against thier bullshit. I heard they have a cartoon making fun of Nas at the back of that issue too.
I don't believe any of these beatmakers who claim Dr. Dre took production credits from them. They probably program the drums and play the keyboard and think they just produced a song.
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I don't believe this cuz...
1. It's in the Sauce...
2. Mel-Man gets plenty of credit, I didn't even know Eric B was part of the Math, and the other 2 I've never even heard of...
3. Jayo just signed with Damizza and Baby Ree Records. He ain't joinin' their 2-bit operation or whatever the fucc it is...
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all im sayin is i hope its bullshit cuz i got much love fo melman.........speakin of it though, if its tru his left, we can take alot of wot his sayin as truth cuz his done alot of shit with dre but i hope non of this is true and source jus tryna cause mo bullshit
peace
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Em has left Aftermath too
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they said rakim lefted because dr. dre had him in there with c-list producers. dre would throw him 1 track and not even sit wit him.
What about that interview THAFORMULA.COM did with Rakim , he said he was in the studio with Dre all the time , and they were working real close with each other. He basically said Dre was a studio rat.
LOL @ Dre throwing him 1 track and then leaving. That sounds like horseshit to me. ;D
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its seems like the whole issue is dissin aftermath. 50 is on the cover but they didnot interview him. its just to sell mags i think. it has articles on former 50's friend saying how he blew up and dissed every1, it states that he is a fake. it also talks about rapprs with bodyguards. it states mel-man changed his name to Hillstorian. they have picvtures with all of the former producers together. its on pages 100-103 in the october issue of the source.
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I don't understand you Dre/Snoop?dpg dick ridas for flaming this guy who was only passing the info. The shit is true thought they interviewed all of them and even have pics with Mel-Man and all of them. You dick ridas made be upset but it's true.
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I don't understand you Dre/Snoop?dpg dick ridas for flaming this guy who was only passing the info. The shit is true thought they interviewed all of them and even have pics with Mel-Man and all of them. You dick ridas made be upset but it's true.
word......
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all this "seems" like shit and is glossed over with so called "proof" from the sorce but the fact remains this
dre's been having the SAME damn signiture sound since what? since 1999/98 and inbetween those fucking 5 year , HOW MANY people/producers have worked under him?? how THAT many different people can come up with the same typa beat .......hurts this whole argument. the only consistant name attatched to all these beats is dr. dre......i've heard scott storch on his own......sounds nothing like the shit he did for dre. the fact is this dre hires help. Dre beats are just that DRE BEATS.
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someone post some scans up and clear this up :)
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someone post some scans up and clear this up :)
I have the mag, but no scanner :( But if you want I can type out some of the interview. But if you guys get the Source out there its the one with 50 cent on the cover, and it has a pic with Mel-Man, Chuck, Eric B and some other dude plus an interview as well.
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all this "seems" like shit and is glossed over with so called "proof" from the sorce but the fact remains this
dre's been having the SAME damn signiture sound since what? since 1999/98 and inbetween those fucking 5 year , HOW MANY people/producers have worked under him?? how THAT many different people can come up with the same typa beat .......hurts this whole argument. the only consistant name attatched to all these beats is dr. dre......i've heard scott storch on his own......sounds nothing like the shit he did for dre. the fact is this dre hires help. Dre beats are just that DRE BEATS.
Sounds like you in denial. I can see if it was one person or just a few but over the years it's been ton of producers who say Dre jack they beats. Now everyone couldn't just be lying on Dre.
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i found an interesting article about Ron Feemster aka Neff-U...i talks about the tracks he helped out on, co-wrote, instruments....etc
http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/feemstar.htm
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i found an interesting article about Ron Feemster aka Neff-U...i talks about the tracks he helped out on, co-wrote, instruments....etc
http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/feemstar.htm
interesting article, do you know how old is it? and also that guy Neff claimed he produced the entire Coors Light Commicial beat in the Source Mag.
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i'm assuming its somewhat recent because of the mentioning of the track Not Today with Mary J. Blige and Eve. at first the track was known as "The Bullshit"....also i think its a monthly online magazine and the article seem to be the most recent, so i'm thinking its this month's edition
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BULSHIT
Stat Quo Interview with Aftermathmusic.com:
Aftermathmusic.com: So, you worked with Dre and Mel Man in LA. How was the work with them in the studio?
Stat Quo: It’s beautiful. When you talk about Dr.Dre, he is a legend man. He is hip-hop’s Quincy Jones. You know what I mean. He is the guy that has never really lost at anything he is done. And the fact that he hasn’t really worked with any artists up out of the south, and they negotiating to sign me right now. It’s just a beautiful thing because he is taking me to another level. Just being around him and learning and talking to him. Just being with him in his presence has taken me to another level. Then you talk about someone like Melman, who has been apart and been around Dre for years. It has gotten to the point that if you’re talking to one, you are talking to the other one. So at all times of the day when I’m talking to either one of them, I’m just getting knowledge. Teaching me so much and learning how to really be an artist and not just be a rapper and put an album out, and be here today and gone tomorrow.
Aftermathmusic.com: You are unsigned right now. Is your work with Dre and Mel an indiction that you'll sign to Aftermath?
Stat Quo: I'm negotiating with Aftermath, it’s not final yet. We're about 85% done with the deal. There was an article in the Source that said I was signed with the Drama Family. No I’m not signed with the Drama Family, they misquoted him when he said that. That’s not true as far as what things that they’re saying about me in there. Shout out to Big Chuck. I’m not signed to the Drama Family. I’m negotiating to sign directly with Aftermath.
The Interview will be up mid of this week
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I don't believe any of these beatmakers who claim Dr. Dre took production credits from them. They probably program the drums and play the keyboard and think they just produced a song.
Exactly, I think its a similar situation with how Daz claimed to have produced some songs on Chronic & Doggystyle, but I am more inclined to believe that he co-produced them, same with Warren G co-production some of The Chronic
There are producers who got in the game coz of Dre that will tell you what Dre did. He had those guys like Scott Scorch & that do stuff, but Dre was always giving those guys directions giving the musicians behind the keyboards, symphasizers & all that other shit, instructions on which key to press or note to hit.
Theres many people who work with Dre who will confirm that. DJ Quik is one of those guys. He said how Dre would just think of a melody & hum it, then put it out there & build it up from there. Scott Scorch has said how Dre was in charge how he gave Scott directions & stuff, & look at Scorch now he is making his own beats. Its like Dre teaches em
they said rakim lefted because dr. dre had him in there with c-list producers. dre would throw him 1 track and not even sit wit him.
What about that interview THAFORMULA.COM did with Rakim , he said he was in the studio with Dre all the time , and they were working real close with each other. He basically said Dre was a studio rat.
LOL @ Dre throwing him 1 track and then leaving. That sounds like horseshit to me. ;D
Exactly
The Source is just doing anything they can right now to sell because they know they are dead, that XXL, Rap Pages & Murder Dog are becoming bigger & bigger & that the Source doesnt have access to 3 of the industries biggest names, in Dr.Dre, Eminem & 50 Cent. Those last 3 guys are some of the biggest names out there right now, esspecially 50.
They've already lost white readers after the "racist" issue, pretty much every fan of 50 Cent, Dre & Eminem, real hip hop heads which were once there main market know that The Source is not a credible magazine, & hasnt been for a long time
Bottom line is, Source will continue with these scandelous articles to try & keep them a-float, while people continue to jump off the sinking Titanic that is the Source onto the XXL boat, & the people who do stick with the Source will go down with it
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someone post some scans up and clear this up :)
I have the mag, but no scanner :( But if you want I can type out some of the interview. But if you guys get the Source out there its the one with 50 cent on the cover, and it has a pic with Mel-Man, Chuck, Eric B and some other dude plus an interview as well.
Its probably true about the article being out, but the article isnt true & thats something "real talk" is known all to well for on the DPG Recordz site, as someone who likes to believe the "fake talk"
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The Source is just doing anything they can right now to sell because they know they are dead, that XXL, Rap Pages & Murder Dog are becoming bigger & bigger & that the Source doesnt have access to 3 of the industries biggest names, in Dr.Dre, Eminem & 50 Cent. Those last 3 guys are some of the biggest names out there right now, esspecially 50.
I think we're going to add Nas too soon. I don't think he'll deal with The Source again. I doubt we'll see him at The Source awards.
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engies.. real talk = 2real.
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engies.. real talk = 2real.
who's 2real? it rings a bell but i be gone outta of knowing who's who here for a long time :( (other than the main ones & old schoolers originals like yourself :D )
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2Real is that TooGangsta dude, isn't it..
Now known as StreetHop or something..
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Which Coors Light advert is Neff-U talking about? The 1st one which uses the If I Can't beat (did he do the version in the advert and then Dre turned it into what it became on GRODT, or maybe the other way round?) or the second ad with Quincy & Pharrell?
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2Real is that TooGangsta dude, isn't it..
Now known as StreetHop or something..
yeah.. and the person who owned streethop sold it to the ones who own hitemup.. dude used to have a site that I think got closed umm.. Westside2real.com, it was on mtv one time.
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2Real is that TooGangsta dude, isn't it..
Now known as StreetHop or something..
yeah.. and the person who owned streethop sold it to the ones who own hitemup.. dude used to have a site that I think got closed umm.. Westside2real.com, it was on mtv one time.
Was he one of those cunts i used to expose all the time lol. Some wigga who got his site hacked who used to talk gangsta
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naww not one of those cornfeds.
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Fuck The Source
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someone from aftermath will do an interview with xxl or somethin and clear the air.. just have to wait
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G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath are basically runnin' the mixtape scene anywayz. A lot of y'all believe too much of wha'chu read. Once the Math starts makin' bad music then we should complain.