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Title: Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Lincoln on September 14, 2003, 08:21:51 PM
one of the top5 rappers off all time? i can't. Just curious to see if anyone on the board isn't a PE Fan.
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Jimmy Cash on September 14, 2003, 09:45:18 PM
i don't know about top five but he definatly influnced alot of people. i'm not a PE fan but i don't hate, just not feelin 'em
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: The Watcher on September 14, 2003, 10:14:28 PM
in my top10, not my top5
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: pappy on September 15, 2003, 12:10:57 AM
his flow is what hurts him a lot
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Don Jacob on September 15, 2003, 12:38:32 AM
he gets his props for being influencial , but his rhyme scheme is almost like talking in a regular conversation. so it depends on how you rank them based on skill/flow/breath control/lyrics/artistic ability/influence/progressiveness/longevity



top 5 overall rappers IMO when you add all that shit up

1. Pac
2. Ra
3. Cube
4. KRS
5. Biggie
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: OpTiCaL on September 15, 2003, 12:41:52 AM
^^ I agree with you...


...however PE kept on top of the game for quite a few years...



...like a few others spitting the harsh reality that most people didnt want to acknowledge... damn i wish there are more like that now but i dont think society at the moment leads to such fire / anger / resentment in lyrics as in anti establishment etc

If not in my top 5 of all time most definatly at no. 6

Pe@cE
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Nightfall on September 15, 2003, 10:46:26 AM
chuck D isa fucken legend, mad respect to do the dude

but he wasnt bout complex wordplay or a flashy flow

the dude was spitting straight facts

if someone is really into political shit ( like u) hell yea

but if someones into complex mic skills, or intersting wordplay, no, not really, stil def maaad tite
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Lincoln on September 15, 2003, 01:58:49 PM
but he wasnt bout complex wordplay or a flashy flow

the dude was spitting straight facts

Thats right, he doesn't need a gimmick. Just staight dope

"5-O said FREEZE! & i got numb/could i tell them i never really had a gun?"
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Nightfall on September 15, 2003, 02:07:26 PM
but he wasnt bout complex wordplay or a flashy flow

the dude was spitting straight facts

Thats right, he doesn't need a gimmick. Just staight dope

"5-O said FREEZE! & i got numb/could i tell them i never really had a gun?"


wel, complex wordplay can be cool, its not a gimmick really it shows skill....
and ras kass isnt a gimmick ;)


but, chuck D is a legend, him and PE changed the game, so mad props to em


i can argue bout him being top 5 to be honest tho we have a lot of talented rappers, its really wat ur into IMO
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Dr._Funkenstein on September 15, 2003, 02:30:28 PM
Always was a fan of PE. Liked their last studio album "There's A Poison Goin' On" too: They're still dope!
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 15, 2003, 03:43:24 PM
My top five MCs ever:

1. Rakim
2. KRS-One
3. Nas
4. Big Daddy Kane
5. Notorious B.I.G.

IMO, all of them have better voices and a better flow.  Biggie and Nas are better storytellers.  Rakim & Kane are better lyricists.  The top three have better albums.  Chuck D does have the influence and impact but so does Rakim, KRS-One and Kane, and Nas and Biggie are just better all-around MCs than him.

But then againg I never liked P.E., or Chuck D for the most part.
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Lincoln on September 15, 2003, 06:23:41 PM
but he wasnt bout complex wordplay or a flashy flow

the dude was spitting straight facts

Thats right, he doesn't need a gimmick. Just staight dope

"5-O said FREEZE! & i got numb/could i tell them i never really had a gun?"


wel, complex wordplay can be cool, its not a gimmick really it shows skill....
and ras kass isnt a gimmick ;)


but, chuck D is a legend, him and PE changed the game, so mad props to em


i can argue bout him being top 5 to be honest tho we have a lot of talented rappers, its really wat ur into IMO


Yeah i didn't mean that wordplay is a gimmick. I meant that Chuck D doesnt have any need to be complex or anything its straight up reality rap.
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: willie_d on September 22, 2003, 12:11:55 PM
Chuck is in my top 5 for sure.
It ain't all about skills or techniques: hip hop ain't about subtracting and adding up. This shit is about feeling and I been feeling Chuckie D since the days of Yo! Bum Rush the Show.
Besides Paris, I don't think anyone can match Chuck's wisdom and maturity. Most of his rhymes or ideas are so on point it makes me wonder if he'll ever be the new leader the black community in the United Snakes of America needs.
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Don Jacob on September 22, 2003, 12:42:48 PM
but he wasnt bout complex wordplay or a flashy flow

the dude was spitting straight facts

Thats right, he doesn't need a gimmick.


two words......flava flav
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Lincoln on September 22, 2003, 01:10:05 PM
Chuck is in my top 5 for sure.
It ain't all about skills or techniques: hip hop ain't about subtracting and adding up. This shit is about feeling and I been feeling Chuckie D since the days of Yo! Bum Rush the Show.
Besides Paris, I don't think anyone can match Chuck's wisdom and maturity. Most of his rhymes or ideas are so on point it makes me wonder if he'll ever be the new leader the black community in the United Snakes of America needs.

Word!
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: Lincoln on September 22, 2003, 01:11:43 PM
but he wasnt bout complex wordplay or a flashy flow

the dude was spitting straight facts

Thats right, he doesn't need a gimmick.


two words......flava flav

That is not a gimmick for Chuck D. Flava Flav does not do anything to Chuck D's lyrics. He may add a gimmicky tone to the group but Chuck himself is still without a gimmick.
Title: Re:Can anyone argue against Chuck D being...
Post by: SGV on September 22, 2003, 01:21:10 PM
Top 5 of all time.

1. Ice Cube
1. KRS-One
3. Kool G Rap
4. Chuck D
5. D.O.C./Slick Rick