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Title: Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: KingRichard on September 15, 2003, 08:46:04 AM
Toss It Up was by Danny Boy and Jodeci. Pac just got on the track..... Dre did the beat for Blackstreets "No Diggity" while he was still at Death Row. Dre sold it to Teddy Riley. Which is why the beginning of those songs where almost exactly the same.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Lord Funk on September 15, 2003, 08:54:47 AM
Also why Pac's ranting on about "you know whose beat this is - yeah we took y'all beat" at the end.

And why Pac assembled his own "all-star" line up of R&B heads for the track. It's not a coincidence that Aaron Hall was on that track ;)
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Don Seer on September 15, 2003, 10:04:38 AM
Dre * didnt * produce the blackstreet track, he just rapped on it. Teddy Riley produced the song.

Popular misconception ;)
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: CRAFTY on September 15, 2003, 10:44:01 AM
^^^^ ;)
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: eNgIeS on September 15, 2003, 04:12:30 PM
Dre * didnt * produce the blackstreet track, he just rapped on it. Teddy Riley produced the song.

Popular misconception ;)

Shit, thats weird, i could've sworn on the cover of the single it says Dre produced it, i'll have a look around & see if I still have it around. Not doubting you 'seer, its probably a miss print if it is on there
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Jome on September 15, 2003, 06:15:39 PM

Shit, thats weird, i could've sworn on the cover of the single it says Dre produced it, i'll have a look around & see if I still have it around. Not doubting you 'seer, its probably a miss print if it is on there

Probably says "featuring".. the producer rarely gets a mention on the cover..
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Eddie G. on September 15, 2003, 06:18:36 PM
Talking about Pac and Blackstreet beats, does anyone have the story on why the beats for I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dont Leave Me are almost identical ???
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: teecee on September 15, 2003, 11:39:39 PM
Well, The outlaws say in the new XXL that Toss it Up is their least favourite song on  Makeveli cuz it was a song Dre had already produced while still on Deathrow, and the cut featured Danny Boy and Jodeci only.  They say when Dre left e sold the beat to Teddy Riley, and then featured on the song.   So who knows if Dre actually produced No Diggity or not...
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Last Dragon on September 16, 2003, 12:22:22 AM
Talking about Pac and Blackstreet beats, does anyone have the story on why the beats for I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dont Leave Me are almost identical ???

They sampled the same song.  I forgot the name of it though.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: mauzip on September 16, 2003, 04:53:39 AM
Toss It Up: produced by Dametrius Ship & Reggie Moore
No Diggity: produced by Teddy Riley
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: eNgIeS on September 16, 2003, 05:46:59 AM

Shit, thats weird, i could've sworn on the cover of the single it says Dre produced it, i'll have a look around & see if I still have it around. Not doubting you 'seer, its probably a miss print if it is on there

Probably says "featuring".. the producer rarely gets a mention on the cover..

Nah, it was on the back of it, you know how on the old cardboard singles they had credits at the back of the cover
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: mauzip on September 16, 2003, 06:00:21 AM
Talking about Pac and Blackstreet beats, does anyone have the story on why the beats for I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dont Leave Me are almost identical ???

They sampled the same song.  I forgot the name of it though.

Toss It Up doesn't sample any song.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Don Seer on September 16, 2003, 06:00:58 AM
Weird.. well orginally I thought for a long time that Dre produced it, but I noticed he hadnt in the liner notes of the album itself, so I know i'm right, because I know I was wrong :)


oh and I could be wrong here, but i'm pretty sure Teddy Riley has commented on the issue, and it seems Dre might have tried to take some credit for it or something, i've definitely read something like that.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Last Dragon on September 16, 2003, 06:15:26 AM
Talking about Pac and Blackstreet beats, does anyone have the story on why the beats for I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dont Leave Me are almost identical ???

They sampled the same song.  I forgot the name of it though.

Toss It Up doesn't sample any song.

 Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: mauzip on September 16, 2003, 06:22:08 AM
Talking about Pac and Blackstreet beats, does anyone have the story on why the beats for I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dont Leave Me are almost identical ???

They sampled the same song.  I forgot the name of it though.

Toss It Up doesn't sample any song.

 Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.

According to the All Eyez On Me inlay it doesn't.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Lord Funk on September 16, 2003, 06:24:41 AM
i'm pretty sure Teddy Riley has commented on the issue, and it seems Dre might have tried to take some credit for it or something.

You're saying Dre tried to take the credit for a song he didn't really produce?

Why would you say something that vicious?

 ;)

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure the 'I Ain't Mad Atcha' / 'Don't Leave' sample is from an old Teddy Pendergrass tune.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: k-dogg on September 16, 2003, 06:52:43 AM
I remember Dre was being interviewed around that time and he was congratulated for No Diggity and he said that "Teddy Hooked it".  I assume that was his way of saying that Teddy Riley produced it.  
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Dr._Funkenstein on September 16, 2003, 09:13:53 AM
Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.

They used a part of DeBarge's "A Dream". Dope song! ;D
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on September 16, 2003, 11:17:21 PM
Shit, I always thought that Dre produced 'No diggity' until I looked at the linear notes and saw Teddy Riley's name there.  But like teecee said, the Outlawz said in XXL that Dre already produced the beat, but then sold it.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Young Dan Iza on September 17, 2003, 01:27:39 PM
Well, The outlaws say in the new XXL that Toss it Up is their least favourite song on  Makeveli cuz it was a song Dre had already produced while still on Deathrow, and the cut featured Danny Boy and Jodeci only.  They say when Dre left e sold the beat to Teddy Riley, and then featured on the song.   So who knows if Dre actually produced No Diggity or not...

didnt anyone read this, this is comin from the outlawz mouth who were there during the recording of makaveli,, also no diggity samples a song called "grandma's hands"
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: mauzip on September 17, 2003, 01:30:19 PM
Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.

They used a part of DeBarge's "A Dream". Dope song! ;D

Then why doesn't it say that in the AEOM inlay??



Talking about Pac and Blackstreet beats, does anyone have the story on why the beats for I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dont Leave Me are almost identical ???

They sampled the same song.  I forgot the name of it though.

Toss It Up doesn't sample any song.

 Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.

According to the All Eyez On Me inlay it doesn't.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Don Rizzle on September 17, 2003, 02:11:12 PM
Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.

They used a part of DeBarge's "A Dream". Dope song! ;D

Then why doesn't it say that in the AEOM inlay??



Talking about Pac and Blackstreet beats, does anyone have the story on why the beats for I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dont Leave Me are almost identical ???

They sampled the same song.  I forgot the name of it though.

Toss It Up doesn't sample any song.

 Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.

According to the All Eyez On Me inlay it doesn't.

albums hardly ever list all their samples
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: Code Blue on September 17, 2003, 02:15:21 PM
Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.

They used a part of DeBarge's "A Dream". Dope song! ;D

Then why doesn't it say that in the AEOM inlay??



Talking about Pac and Blackstreet beats, does anyone have the story on why the beats for I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dont Leave Me are almost identical ???

They sampled the same song.  I forgot the name of it though.

Toss It Up doesn't sample any song.

 Yeah, but "I Ain't MAd At Cha" samples a song.

According to the All Eyez On Me inlay it doesn't.

Although I ain't sure of the tracc they sampled, you can clearly tell that both "I Ain't Mad At'Cha" and "Don't Leave" have the same basic beat.
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: mauzip on September 18, 2003, 06:34:33 AM
That's probably coincidence. Compare Richie Rich's Why Do G's Get To Go To Heaven and TQ's Keep On for example. The credits of Keep On don't mention any sample...
Title: Re:Toss It Up produced by Dr Dre?
Post by: kristen on September 18, 2003, 06:38:09 AM
No, MEACH AND REGGIE MOORE produced it.