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Title: David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 24, 2003, 12:23:41 PM
Yall think it's for real?

For those that don't know, Blaine is suspended in a glass box above (beside) the river Thames in London.  He's got crowds of people under him yelling at him, and playing drums, and trying to talk to him, and just generally watching what he's doing.  He's trying to stay in the box for 44 days, with no food, just water through a tube.

He's on day 19.

I think it's for real, I think he's one of the last great showmans, doing anything for the fame like P.T. Barnum or Houdini.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 24, 2003, 12:25:37 PM
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Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on September 24, 2003, 12:34:50 PM
Dam, how the fuck does he take showers and clean himself up???  :o
And No Food....Shit I couldn't go 1 day without food lol
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Woodrow on September 24, 2003, 01:42:22 PM
Living in a box for 44 days dosen't make you a magician, It makes you homeless.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 24, 2003, 01:43:50 PM
Hmmm... who said the word magician?
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: CharlieBrown on September 24, 2003, 01:44:21 PM
Living in a box for 44 days dosen't make you a magician, It makes you homeless.

LOL! ;D
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: budsmokeronly on September 24, 2003, 01:59:02 PM
what an idiot.  he should just move to some third world country if he don't wanna eat.  why doesn't he do something cool like light himself on fire and run through a crowd of people.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: bez on September 24, 2003, 02:00:45 PM
He is truly an amazing performer who knows what he is doing.

I mean doing the stunt in London.........I bet he has chosen to do it there because he knew that people would proberly be throwing things at him and shit.  He is writing a journal in there and remember and no doubt he will want to sell millions of copies of it once it is published so think about it.  Either he does the stunt in U.S.A and has fans watching him the whole time just cheering and wihsing him luck or he has it in London where people will be teasing him, throwing things at him, taunting him, trying to thwart his efforts........the man is a genious.  With all the stuff that has happened so far he is going to sell loooooooooooads of copies of this journal and we are still not even half way through the stunt yet.  

Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on September 24, 2003, 02:21:52 PM
Hahaha ... some of the stuff theyve been doing is real funny. The things ive heard about....

Someone flying a remote control helicopter up and dangling a burger in front of him. Haha dats fuckin funny
The crowd lighting a barbecue below him so the smell would rise up. Evil, but funny.
Stands selling eggs to throw at him. Great stuff.
Some guy trying to cut the cable suspending david. Not so funny that one.

Anyway good luck to him...havent seen any coverage of him on sky or channel 4 since he went up. I reckon its for real but he'll come out messed up. Wouldve been nice if he did it for charity and got everyone watching him to pay something and the tv channels and shit.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Sol on September 24, 2003, 02:36:04 PM
His stunt is the most boring stunt ever.

The guy is an idiot who is in love with himself. The sooner he is out of London and back to America the better.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: bez on September 24, 2003, 02:54:25 PM
His stunt is the most boring stunt ever.

The guy is an idiot who is in love with himself. The sooner he is out of London and back to America the better.

?????
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: budsmokeronly on September 24, 2003, 03:11:15 PM
whats worse is the people who are fascinated with this guy, suspended in the air in a glass box with nothing to eat.  Wow, I could spend every friday night just staring at him!
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Woodrow on September 24, 2003, 06:09:57 PM
Hmmm... who said the word magician?

When you said "houidini" the word magician came to mind.

Not to mention his TV special called "David Blane- Street Magic"
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 24, 2003, 07:26:26 PM
Yeah, but this isn't a magic trick.  It's not being advertised as one either.

I don't see why people hate this guy, I think it's pretty funny the way he's playing everybody, look at the crowds he has, ANYBODY could have got the same crowds if they would have done something this simple.  Like I said, he's a great showman.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Sol on September 25, 2003, 08:09:53 AM
His stunt is the most boring stunt ever.

The guy is an idiot who is in love with himself. The sooner he is out of London and back to America the better.

?????


So you find this 'stunt' entertaining? A guy sitting in a glass box for 44 days without food.

I dont like the guy, he is obviously clever and talented, but he just gets on my nerves.
I read the other day that his people were thinking of stopping it because of all the hate he has been getting, and im not surprised.

btw, people have gone a lot longer than 44 days without food, in much worse circumstances.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Jacob on September 25, 2003, 01:13:09 PM
it's a tight trick, i don't know you guys are pissed off at him for..it's not like he's starving someone else and exploiting them.


i just got two words for y'all though....mineral water.............without food/sufficient nutrition the body starts to deteriorate , there's some shit in that water believe you me.


anyways why are the british such a-holes??

and where does he go to pee/poop....and does he let people watch that?
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Seer on September 25, 2003, 02:54:00 PM
if some british guy came and got himself suspended in a box in times square or somethin.. wouldnt ya'll throw stuff at him?
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 25, 2003, 03:40:21 PM
I don't mind the reaction of the crowd, I think he did it in London on purpose, since the british are such assholes, he knew he'd get more publicity.  

BTW, It's not mineral water, two days ago he even let the guardian go up with the guys when they tested the water supply.  It's just plain water.

He gets to drink as much as he wants, and he pisses into a tube sticking out the side of the box.  He's only had to defecate once, and he has diapers in the box with him.  He took a dump, threw it in a plastic bag, and dropped it out of the box.  

Like somebody above said, 44 days without food isn't unheard of, buddhists do stuff like this a lot.  For an american celebrity to do it though, I think shows a lot of self control.  

The crap about him ending it early was all just typical british tabloid crap.  His doctors test the urine each day, and they're saying he should be able to make the 44 days no problem.

Yesterday he was in kind of bad shape, though, he's saying he blacks out if he stands up too fast, he has a sweet taste in his mouth (which indicates he's starving to death).  Your body processes available sugars, then burns the fat off your body, then starts breaking down muscle.  If he's in really bad shape towards the end, his body will start breaking down his internal organs to survive, so it's a very dangerous thing to do.  He's instructed them not to remove him under any circumstances, unless he's been immobile for 2 full days!  He even told one reporter that he'd rather die than not finish the stunt.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 25, 2003, 03:48:35 PM
This fucker is crazy.

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Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on September 25, 2003, 04:04:47 PM
^^lol@"assholes" thats shit on women say.............man thats some gay shit their, y'all say that in real life?.........
and about british being "assholes".....................lol ::)
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 25, 2003, 04:08:47 PM
I can't believe a guy from england is trying to tell me that I talk funny.  You've GOT to be kidding me.  EVERY FUCKING THING you guys SAY is funny, LOL.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on September 25, 2003, 04:17:03 PM
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lol, i seriously dont see the box, i must be stupid or blind...  :(
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 25, 2003, 05:16:29 PM
It's clear, LOL.  You're not supposed to see it... really though, if you look at the picture of him close up, you'll see a plastic wall in front of him, it's about 7 feet high, the box is about 3 feet deep.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: budsmokeronly on September 25, 2003, 05:52:32 PM
I hope a hurricane hits london, I'd like to see him stay in the box thru that.  now that would be entertaining.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Kaidy on September 25, 2003, 06:10:47 PM
I think its a decent stunt, like Trauma I'm comparing dude to Houdini in his showmanship, and even though this isn't magic I do appreciate the guy's 'magic' or whatever u want to call it. He's a great performer.

And its crazy to me how people get so excited/annoyed by him. I mean, I seen one dumbass white trash guy jump up there and try to cut off his water supply while shouting insults at him. people take shit way too serious.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Jacob on September 25, 2003, 07:59:24 PM
if some british guy came and got himself suspended in a box in times square or somethin.. wouldnt ya'll throw stuff at him?


personally i don't know anyone that would do shit like that to some doing something like that ......that's FUCKED UP. i can see maybe a crack head or some ghetto people doing that but i can't see us selling eggs to throw and trying to cut off the water supply.that shit is just too fucked up
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: budsmokeronly on September 25, 2003, 10:15:42 PM
I would definately throw shit at some  idiot if he were pulling this stunt where I live.  if your looking for attention, I will give you my attention and a lot more.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Seer on September 26, 2003, 01:34:40 AM
especially if it werent an american.. i.e. an outsider.... psychologists here are saying the reaction is because they feel he's invading us. lol
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on September 26, 2003, 04:45:05 AM
Hahaa ... your right, cutting the water supply isnt funny, but you can imagine the boredom of watching him, so throwing eggs is only natural. Like at a concert when a group tries to make a human pyramid, everyone fucks bottles at them till they fall down. Why is he doing it in london anyway? Does anyone really care over there? It doesnt seem like theyre buying the " im challenging the extremes of humanity" stuff
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 26, 2003, 07:19:20 AM
^^ In america, usually people don't do that kind of stuff at concerts, everybody generally has a good time without assholes throwing beer bottles at everybody.

He said in one part he did it in london because he knew he'd get a big crowd coming out and playing music, etc. (like bands come by and play for him, and people come by and play chess on the ground with him).  I don't think he minds all the people throwing things at him, he knew london would be like that, it's just more publicity.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Seer on September 26, 2003, 09:38:51 AM
Another reason why london is better... no guns.

Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: bez on September 26, 2003, 10:33:48 AM
Another reason why london is better... no guns.



tell that to the so solid crew.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 26, 2003, 10:39:03 AM
You have rifles, though... and the only thing that would be a threat in this situation IS a rifle, nobody could shoot somebody accurately with a pistol at that distance.  I don't think (In america, at least) that there would be a safety concern with getting shot, I think he just figured the London crowd would be more rambunctious which is what he wanted for publicity.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Jacob on September 26, 2003, 12:39:00 PM
Hahaa ... your right, cutting the water supply isnt funny, but you can imagine the boredom of watching him, so throwing eggs is only natural. Like at a concert when a group tries to make a human pyramid, everyone fucks bottles at them till they fall down. Why is he doing it in london anyway? Does anyone really care over there? It doesnt seem like theyre buying the " im challenging the extremes of humanity" stuff


i don't know WHAT kind of concerts you go to buddy where people go on stage and make a human pyramid but........eh,lol



if they find it boring they shouldn't go out there and look......there's no need to make it over how you want it. it's european attitudes like this that killed all the indians and created city bosses and ect.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Jacob on September 26, 2003, 12:40:43 PM
especially if it werent an american.. i.e. an outsider.... psychologists here are saying the reaction is because they feel he's invading us. lol


with the exception of Osama, Saddam, Gray Davis, or Fred Durst......i can't see that happening here in america
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on September 26, 2003, 03:24:46 PM
I can't believe a guy from england is trying to tell me that I talk funny.  You've GOT to be kidding me.  EVERY FUCKING THING you guys SAY is funny, LOL.  

lol pleeez comin from a guy who keeps talkin like a bithc with lines like "hmmmm, assholes"....thats bitch shit their dawg.......and wots with swappin between caps n small letters, make u feel tough bad bwoy?

speakin of the blaine stunt though, i dunno why kats be hatin on what fools doin, let him do what he wants
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on September 26, 2003, 03:44:13 PM
damn his gettin enough abuse up their though! but i guess theres more fans of his than haters...........but u know, these ppl gotta draw a line between whats funny and shits that dangerous or stupid.......

i heard sum science wack like his hair gon grow alot fastrer due to some shit to, lol.............gon be funny seeing him come outta their like real hairy n shit!...............
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Seer on September 26, 2003, 03:55:55 PM
its not hating!

i'd love to throw eggs at dude.. dont ya get it?

its like having someone in stocks... at a fair

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the only difference is.. blaine isnt doing it for charity..
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 26, 2003, 04:09:28 PM
Yeah, a lot of people are mad about that, but oh well.  He does give a lot of money to charity, though... him and Michael Jackson just gave some money to the Exeter football squad didn't they?
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on September 26, 2003, 04:15:53 PM
i think the funniest thing was when there was throwin food or had a burger bar right by him, now that was good shit........anyway how much is he gettin for this?
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 26, 2003, 10:41:34 PM
Nothing
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on September 27, 2003, 10:10:59 AM
lol, i think yiz missunderstood me....

1. The human pyramids are in the crowd, not on stage.
2. Its not beer bottles being fucked, just plastic bottles, its only for the laugh, everyones involved, and noone gets hurt.

Latest think i heard is someone started shooting paint balls at him. lol, surely if they can do that some fool could easily shoot him for the publicity.


I reckon he gets money from tv coverage and shit.

Has anyone seen the ad on tv for the guy who says he's gonna do russian roulette live on tv?? thats going a bit TOO far.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 27, 2003, 10:17:03 AM
^^ He's not getting any money, but he's getting tons of publicity, and he's writing a notebook so he could sell that afterwards.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Don Seer on September 27, 2003, 10:29:44 AM
Yeah, a lot of people are mad about that, but oh well.  He does give a lot of money to charity, though... him and Michael Jackson just gave some money to the Exeter football squad didn't they?

oh did he.. i know jacko was down in this area last year, and visited the exeter ground, nino brown/scott lives there and went to see him.. interesting thing for jacko to be investing in.. come on jacko.. taunton town fc defo need a new football ground! :)
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: bez on September 27, 2003, 01:22:20 PM
darren borwn playing live russian roulete on tv soon.  I feel sorry for the person hes playing against.

Gunna be a great trick tho.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 27, 2003, 05:03:02 PM
Yeah, David Blaine, Michael Jackson, and fucking Uri Gellar are all a little circle of friends.  Somebody needs to make up a name like 'the rat pack' for those 3, LOL.  Maybe Uri Gellar is the one who was interested in Exeter?  He talked them all into donating.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 28, 2003, 12:47:58 AM
The Independent did a study of his water, and Urine... check this out...

Faking it? How we (literally) took the p*** out of a master illusionist
Blaine watch: Days 17-23 Nutritionists make an impromptu visit to the glass box
By Andrew Johnson
28 September 2003


For three weeks the illusionist David Blaine has had eggs, golf balls, burgers, bananas and chips thrown at him. None has so far penetrated the plastic box suspended next to Tower Bridge in which he sits. But amid the flying junk, there has always been the threat of something far more damaging that could be hurled at him: the accusation that he is cheating.

He must have salt tablets hidden in his cage or glucose in his water supply, goes the speculation. His blanket has salt or sugar impregnated in it. Tablets or cubes of the stuff must be sown into his duvet. He is, after all, an illusionist.

So, in our role as professional dis-illusionists we felt duty bound to try to establish once and for all if Blaine, who intends to spend 44 days in his box without food, has a secret supply of sustenance.

We asked the country's leading nutritional experts to examine first his water supply and then his urine, and insisted to Blaine's camp that we would take the sample ourselves. "I think he has some salt in there," said Catherine Collins, the chief dietician at St George's Hospital in London. "Salt is the big issue. He is living in a greenhouse, and it has been very sunny.

"You cannot regulate your sweat, and through sweat you lose water and salt. Without salt the brain begins to swell. You get depressed and delusional. Round about now you would expect him to be going a little bit odd and talking to himself. I understand he has lip salve in there. I think it is a salt stick. He doesn't need much salt - just a lick every now and again would be enough. Also there are glucose polymers you can put in water that are colourless and tasteless."

Ms Collins accompanied The Independent on Sunday to the top of Blaine's water tower on Friday. We took two samples directly from the valves that feed water into the tubes leading to Blaine's box. They were analysed by Dr Paul Collinson, the head of chemical pathology at St George's hospital. The verdict:

"The water is completely pure," said Ms Collins. "There are no electrolytes or carbohydrates in there. It does what it says on the tin."

So far Blaine is in the clear. But the real giveaway will be his urine. That will tell whether he is taking salt, glucose or anything else. It is the job of Alex Angeloudes, the water monitor based at Sky Active's production camp set up in a car park behind the box, to take Blaine's urine sample twice a day. Blaine urinates into a funnel attached to a hose, which leads into a padlocked white box situated on a patch of scrubland beneath the cage. Twice a day she dons her rubber gloves, straightens the tube and decants all the urine into its plastic bottle.

Monitored by the IoS, on Friday afternoon Alex took a spot sample of urine. The first thing she must do is weigh the bottle on a small electronic scale in a caravan belonging to the production team which is filming Blaine. This is to check that Blaine is drinking enough water - a feature of starvation is a lack of thirst - and it is litmus tested to check for the presence of blood. He has produced about two litres.

These tests have been dictated by Professor Marinos Elia of the Institute of Human Nutrition at Southampton General Hospital. He is an expert in the physiology of starvation and is recognised as the country's leading nutritionist. Professor Elia has agreed to monitor Blaine's urine independently. He is unconnected to the Blaine camp but has been given the power to carry out unannounced spot-checks. He is not Blaine's doctor, nor is he responsible for his health.

The urine is sealed and driven to Southampton under the watchful eye of the IoS. There it is taken to the pathology department and the sample given a bar-coded number, which corresponds with its docket, so the samples cannot be mixed up.

The sample is placed in Bayer Advia 1650, a machine that looks like a cross between a washing machine and a photocopier. The machine is programmed by a lab official, hums and spins, and 20 minutes later produced the following results:

Sodium: 5 millimoles per litre (mmol). A millimole is an atomic weight measurement used by nutritionists.
Potassium: 12.6 mmol
Chloride: 4 mmol
Ketones: 16 mmol
Glucose: negative.

These results are first checked by a biomedical scientist to ensure they are within their correct parameters and accurate. They are then handed to Professor Elia. "They are consistent with starvation," he says. "The salt level, sodium chloride, is very low - 10 times lower than you would expect it to be. When the body starves it tries to retain as much salt as possible. The kidneys reabsorb it after filtering the body's liquids. You would expect the salt to be low."

The other interesting point is the ketone level, which is high. Ketones are molecules of fat harvested by the body from muscle and organ tissue to be turned into energy.

"The ketones are high," he says. "In a man who was not starving there would be no ketones, unless he was a diabetic. But there is no sugar in this blood, which would indicate he is not a diabetic.

"This is one sample, a snapshot in time. In the end one has to put all the pieces together. But in my view this sample is entirely consistent with someone who is starving. I cannot preclude that he is not taking a tiny lick of sugar or salt, because that would not show up."

"The salt level is very low," Ms Collins concurred yesterday. "In fact it's as low as you can go. If he was really clever he could take just enough salt to keep a low readout in his urine sample. But I don't think so. I no longer think he is taking salt."
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: ITW [the irish boy] on September 28, 2003, 09:56:04 AM
I reckon he's for real. Lets hope he just comes out alive.
They said on the radio he was starting to go insane, folding and refolding his duvet all the time.
I'd hate to be the person who decides when enough is enough...if it was a friend of mine up there i dont think i could wait two days of him lying still before calling it off.
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: Trauma-san on September 28, 2003, 12:54:48 PM
^ Yeah, I think he's gonna hurt himself... after a while, your organs start disolving, he could have brain damage & everything else.  

Apparently, when he did his 'frozen in ice' trick, he was asking to be cut out, and screaming and shit, but they wouldn't cut him out because he had told them before hand not to let him out until a certain time, no matter what he said.  This guy is intense.  I guess it could have been a show, though, but apparently he wanted out early on that one but they wouldn't let him.  
Title: Re:David Blaine's stunt
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on September 28, 2003, 02:46:07 PM
He probably could have done something a bit more tasteful to make money.