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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: R-Tistic on September 28, 2003, 12:31:53 PM
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If The Game faces the same situation that the other 85% of Aftermath artists have faced, which is if his album didn't ever drop, and he ended up parting ways with Aftermath, how would you react?
I reaaaaaaaally hope this doesn't happen...but if it did, I wouldn't really be suprised but I'd be heated. As much as I may respect Dre for what he's done, he would lose some of that if he did this. I kno some of you all may already say I am jinxing the situation or thinkin negative, but I mean how many times have we got excited for an Aftermath or Dre-related release that ended up gettin canned? I jus don't wanna build up my hopes, and even worse, I don't wanna tell everybody outside of L.A. about Dre's new artist that's gonna be part of the west comeback, and a year later, they'll be askin "what happened? I knew the west was dead."
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I've said it many times, and I'm say it again. I don't really give a damn about who's on what label, just as they gettin' they shit out. I wanna see The Game blow up f'sho, Aftermath or not.
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if dre doesn't drop the game...well..nothing bad would happen, he still ahs Eminem and is filthy rich...but i guess new rappers would think before signing to Aftermath
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I've said it many times, and I'm say it again. I don't really give a damn about who's on what label, just as they gettin' they shit out. I wanna see The Game blow up f'sho, Aftermath or not.
Well...the thing is, like 90% of the other rappers, The Game won't have as big of a chance to blow up without Dre. As bullshit as it is, and as much as I hate it, it seems like the only way the west can even have a dope artist to blow up nationwide, and not jus in l.a. and a few people from this board, is with Dre.
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I could give a fuck. The Game has never struck me as more than average.
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I could give a fuck. The Game has never struck me as more than average.
To me, it's like this....he sounds exactly like a NY mixtape clone. He doesn't sound L.A. at all to me, but I kno y Dre signed him. For one, his style appeals to NY, and basically to the country since that style is whas hot right now. Second, even tho it sounds dumb, him bein a blood will help to a point just because there's more bloods in NY than crips, and bloods in NY are as Crips in L.A. are. I think The Game is better than 85% of the rappers that the west has been promotin in the last few years, and he's good enough for me to support. However, I'd looooooooooooooooooooove to see Crooked I in his position, but since that won't happen, I'm down for him blowin up, just because we need somebody in there.
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On the real... The Game's not a good artist name to choose. That doesn't appeal at all to the 13/14 year olds. This is the reason why I say The Game won't blow up at all.
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IMO Dre should start preparing albums for himslef, Ice Cube, Eminem, Snoop, Xzibit ect. instead of branching out and looking for new talent.
Im still shokced he's planning on doing an album for Eve.
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im done wit aftermath
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Im still shokced he's planning on doing an album for Eve.
dont forget that Eve was Aftermath's first lady before joining Ruff Ryders
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On the real... The Game's not a good artist name to choose. That doesn't appeal at all to the 13/14 year olds. This is the reason why I say The Game won't blow up at all.
Well....3 years ago, u never woulda thought 50 Cent woulda blown up from seein his style. All of The Game's mixtape shit has been thug gangsta shit but if he did an album I'm sure he'd change for the singles and shit.
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Im still shokced he's planning on doing an album for Eve.
dont forget that Eve was Aftermath's first lady before joining Ruff Ryders
No, I havnt forgot.....I just dont think it's a good move to make.
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think about if its really dre whos timing the release of the aftermath artists. but u kno me, i dunt really care-i think the games wack n the latest thing aftermath put out was another coors light commercial wit pharrel n dre n i dunt even think that has 2 do wit "aftermath"
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The Game has the generic style of the NY Mixtape cats, he will see the light of day. If Dre put him out, The Game would take off, almost for sure. Listen to the cats out in NY right now, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Sheek, Joe Budden etc, they all have the over use of punchlines, metaphors, similies, and all they talk about is how gangsta they are, how much coke they sold, etc. The Game does all that. At least with JT he wasn't trying so hard to impress and spit different stuff. With Aftermath you already know what he's going to say. He's getting boring, fast.
But, if Dre couldn't put out King Tee, Hittman and Rakim, what makes The Game any different? You people here hate on me when I state the problems about Dre, but here they are plain and clear. How many albums has Aftermath dropped since 96?
Aftermath Presents...
Slim Shady LP
2001
Marshall Mathers LP
Eminem Show
Get Rich Or Die Trying
6 albums in 7 years, that's not a lot, at all. True they all sell a lot, but that's not the point. Dre is holding back so much talent, it's not even funny. He helf King Tee back for a long time, same with Hittman. Hell, he had Ra signed for like 3 or so years, and how many tracks did we hear with Ra and Dre? Not many at all.
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The Game has the generic style of the NY Mixtape cats, he will see the light of day. If Dre put him out, The Game would take off, almost for sure. Listen to the cats out in NY right now, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Sheek, Joe Budden etc, they all have the over use of punchlines, metaphors, similies, and all they talk about is how gangsta they are, how much coke they sold, etc. The Game does all that. At least with JT he wasn't trying so hard to impress and spit different stuff. With Aftermath you already know what he's going to say. He's getting boring, fast.
But, if Dre couldn't put out King Tee, Hittman and Rakim, what makes The Game any different? You people here hate on me when I state the problems about Dre, but here they are plain and clear. How many albums has Aftermath dropped since 96?
Aftermath Presents...
Slim Shady LP
2001
Marshall Mathers LP
Eminem Show
Get Rich Or Die Trying
6 albums in 7 years, that's not a lot, at all. True they all sell a lot, but that's not the point. Dre is holding back so much talent, it's not even funny. He helf King Tee back for a long time, same with Hittman. Hell, he had Ra signed for like 3 or so years, and how many tracks did we hear with Ra and Dre? Not many at all.
I agree with that. But damn...even tho he only has dropped 6 albums in 7 years, other than the first, the rest were top top top sellers, at least double platinum for each one and prolly more than that. I think one thing that either Dre or Dick Iovine look at is that they must be hella sure that the artist is gonna sell A LOT. Hittman coulda sold a lot if promoted right and dropped at the right time, but I don't see King Tee blowin up with a lotta promotion, even tho the west would support it.
The Game does have that same generic style, which is prolly why Dre signed him at this point. But if Dre waits too long, that style will be left in the dust for newcomers. And y is it that every week I hear Dre is supposed to work with somebody completely new, like Stat Quo and Governer, whoever the hell they are?
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you might want to add Truth Hurts, The Firm Album, and The Wash Soundtrack to that list. so, technically that 9 albums in 7 years ;)
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you might want to add Truth Hurts, The Firm Album, and The Wash Soundtrack to that list. so, technically that 9 albums in 7 years ;)
I don't think they were actually released on Aftermath. I know The Wash wasn't, and I don't think Truth Hurts and The Firm were, just Dre was Exec. Producer. However, all three of those albums flopped...and you can say those three, and "Aftermath Presents" were the four biggest flops that Dre was in charge of.
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^ they were...
and i think they all went at least platinum, a flop by dre standards yeah...
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The thing thats disappointing is that unlike Suge Knight, J. Prince, Irv Gotti (even though he was a DJ) and some other guys running labels who are more business minded than former rappers, Dre himself once probably would have given anything just to have his music put out there. During the early days of NWA and even before that (World Class Wrecking Crew) and when he had to start over a Deathrow, he has got to be able to relate to putting together a project and just hoping someone, anyone will have the money and confidence to put your product out there. I realize that some projects will not see the light of day (It is part of the business). I've just never seen a label have so many albums finished or almost finished that never come out and I really feel bad for the artist who have put in the work. If Dre is not running Aftermath (most of us realize this by now), he should just admit it and maybe we will see him in a different light in that he is just a producer and nothing else.
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you might want to add Truth Hurts, The Firm Album, and The Wash Soundtrack to that list. so, technically that 9 albums in 7 years ;)
I forgot about the Firm. The Wash I wouldn't really count, since it was a joint thing with Snooper Dooper. And, Truth Hurts is an R&B album.
So, in the past 7 years, Dre's dropped 7 Hip Hop albums.
To me, that's saying Dre has a problem releasing LPs. If that's the case, he shouldn't be signing people, holding them back for years when they could've already been dropping material.
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I could give a fuck. The Game has never struck me as more than average.