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Title: White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on September 29, 2003, 05:46:41 PM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Code Blue on September 29, 2003, 06:01:34 PM
When you say "people", of what ethnicity are you referring to?
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: UnstoppableForce on September 29, 2003, 06:05:28 PM
Jihad doesn't mean Holy War; it means struggle.
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: eS El Duque on September 29, 2003, 06:06:18 PM
When you say "people", of what ethnicity are you referring to?


don't think he is referring to a certain ethnicity


and Lincoln...ppl don't care cuz Ice Cube is famous... ???
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on September 29, 2003, 06:54:13 PM
When you say "people", of what ethnicity are you referring to?


By "people" i mean members of this forum who call Paris racist & all that
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on September 29, 2003, 06:54:57 PM
Jihad doesn't mean Holy War; it means struggle.

Really? Someone told me it meant Holy War; I apoligize, I have been misinformed
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Don Jacob on September 29, 2003, 11:31:01 PM
well when you have rodney king and reganomics in the air still you're just a LITTLE justified....also he's changed his militant ways.
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Hatesrats™ on September 29, 2003, 11:40:21 PM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?

Maybe cause your bout a decade to late homie...
At that time hip-hop was only intended for certain ear's.
it wasn't Em'd out yet.
it was still in the "struggle" and for those in a "struggle" .
OnE
Hatesrats 2oooTre
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: OpTiCaL on September 30, 2003, 03:35:29 AM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?

Maybe cause your bout a decade to late homie...
At that time hip-hop was only intended for certain ear's.
it wasn't Em'd out yet.
it was still in the "struggle" and for those in a "struggle" .
OnE

I dont agree on that totally...yes it was a struggle in the days of krs one, public enemy bdp etc etc and in the days of cube...especially in the emergence of rodney king..the la riots yall know that anyway...what im trying to say is that cube's music wasnt only for the black population...he reached out and grabbed alot of us by the bollocks (well i dont have them but same as) and these artists made some of us conscious to whats going on in the world and some read up to understand others point of view more fully...

...those that call paris racist are foolish...i dont believe he is at all.
Hatesrats 2oooTre
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: jayo_felony on September 30, 2003, 11:49:36 AM
jihad is holy war, not struggle
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on September 30, 2003, 01:12:53 PM
jihad is holy war, not struggle

I thought so...I believe I read it in a book as well.
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on September 30, 2003, 01:13:50 PM
also he's changed his militant ways.

Yeah he raps about average "gangsta" bullshit now.
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: 7even on September 30, 2003, 01:32:39 PM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?

I simply don't love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title.
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Jim Jones on September 30, 2003, 02:45:12 PM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?


shut the fuck up.
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Trauma-san on September 30, 2003, 03:47:58 PM
This entire thread is because of a comment I made on the other post.  Somebody mentioned Paris, and I said I was gonna be calling my new album "Sonic Killing Muslims".  The way I see it, an album, released right now, in the political climate of the world, called "Sonic Jihad" is obviously making a reference to the problems in the middle east, involving Bin Ladin, Saadam Hussein, and the United States.  I believe this assumption is correct, because Paris has lyrics that are extremely critical of the president of the United States, so it would be very naieve of me to think that the title had nothing to do with the "Jihad" that Bin Ladin declared on the united states.  

Ice Cube is a totally different animal.  Ice Cube in the early 90's spoke out against the president, the fbi, etc. and he was talking about the state of the united states DOMESTICALLY.  He wasn't attacking the country and it's leader in the middle of a war, or choosing sides with our opposition in Iraq, he was speaking out about the problems in America, which for all intents and purposes, he was pretty much correct about.  

He also spoke about being a muslim, and the hypocricy he saw in Christians & such, I see the same exact hypocricy, and I believe they won't call Ice Cube a nigger when he gets to heaven.  

I agree with him that black men shouldn't date white women just because they're white, and I think it's bullshit that the FBI tried to tell him what he could and couldn't say in a song.  

I can relate to Ice Cube and why he would feel that way about shit, why someone would wish "Jihad" (which in MOST accounts that I've heard from muslims like Bin Ladin, involves the death of our entire country and everyone in it) on anybody I can't relate to.  Fuck Paris.  
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on September 30, 2003, 05:41:42 PM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?


shut the fuck up.

Why do you follow my threads around to diss me? What are you, like 13?
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Jim Jones on October 01, 2003, 02:11:28 PM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?


shut the fuck up.

Why do you follow my threads around to diss me? What are you, like 13?


LMAO... Since when am i following you?? wtf?? ..Your opinions are a bunch of bullshit. only a white boy living in canada whos never seen a real black person would say..
 
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I don't put emphasis on race, as a Caucasian I've never thought of myself as any different than an African-American or an Asian, we're all people.

You need to stop living that fantacy.... This aint malibus most wanted, B-Rad..lol
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on October 01, 2003, 07:28:05 PM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?


shut the fuck up.

Why do you follow my threads around to diss me? What are you, like 13?


LMAO... Since when am i following you?? wtf?? ..Your opinions are a bunch of bullshit. only a white boy living in canada whos never seen a real black person would say..
 
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I don't put emphasis on race, as a Caucasian I've never thought of myself as any different than an African-American or an Asian, we're all people.

You need to stop living that fantacy.... This aint malibus most wanted, B-Rad..lol

What fantasy? You think that people should be divided by race? Man we're all just people. Quit living in the past, race means nothing
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Jim Jones on October 02, 2003, 01:36:21 AM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?


shut the fuck up.

Why do you follow my threads around to diss me? What are you, like 13?


LMAO... Since when am i following you?? wtf?? ..Your opinions are a bunch of bullshit. only a white boy living in canada whos never seen a real black person would say..
 
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I don't put emphasis on race, as a Caucasian I've never thought of myself as any different than an African-American or an Asian, we're all people.

You need to stop living that fantacy.... This aint malibus most wanted, B-Rad..lol

What fantasy? You think that people should be divided by race? Man we're all just people. Quit living in the past, race means nothing

dumbass, you're missing the point. i never said we should be divided but you're talkin just like a white guy who's never seen a black person in real life. Quit being ignorant. You would get socked in the face just for talkin all gay like that in the US. You've been watching too much malibus most wanted ...lol
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on October 02, 2003, 01:20:57 PM
I don't understand why people can hate Paris for having an album title called Sonic Jihad (Jihad means Holy War) but they can love Ice Cube for dropping lines like the one in the thread title. Can someone please explain to me?


shut the fuck up.

Why do you follow my threads around to diss me? What are you, like 13?


LMAO... Since when am i following you?? wtf?? ..Your opinions are a bunch of bullshit. only a white boy living in canada whos never seen a real black person would say..
 
Quote
I don't put emphasis on race, as a Caucasian I've never thought of myself as any different than an African-American or an Asian, we're all people.

You need to stop living that fantacy.... This aint malibus most wanted, B-Rad..lol

What fantasy? You think that people should be divided by race? Man we're all just people. Quit living in the past, race means nothing

dumbass, you're missing the point. i never said we should be divided but you're talkin just like a white guy who's never seen a black person in real life. Quit being ignorant. You would get socked in the face just for talkin all gay like that in the US. You've been watching too much malibus most wanted ...lol
I'm being ignorant? I think you're the ignorant one if you think there's no Blacks in Canada. Don't forget we helped get the slaves out of the South. Why would I get socked in the face? Because I feel that all races are equal? Oh yeah, I've never seen malibus most wanted
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: West C. Connected on October 02, 2003, 01:25:19 PM
You're all wrong, everybody knows Asians are better than any other race.  ;D
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on October 02, 2003, 02:29:17 PM
What was the point of this thread again? just another opportunity to mention Paris? please accept that people  on this board are not agreeing with the stuff he comes out with.

Kody.
Title: Re:White Man Is Something I Tried To Study, But I Got My Hands Bloody
Post by: Lincoln on October 02, 2003, 03:55:47 PM
What was the point of this thread again? just another opportunity to mention Paris? please accept that people  on this board are not agreeing with the stuff he comes out with.

Kody.

Actually it was more about Ice Cube than Paris altho P was mentioned.