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Title: Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 30, 2003, 07:57:03 PM
I don't understand it.  There's countless people on here that live in some country other than the U.S., I mean, even weird-ass countries I don't know shit about, that basically REVOLVE around westcoast music!  Why is that?  I mean, we've got people on here who spend hours a day, a significant chunk of their lives, either on this board, or on MIRC, that are from the middle of europe.  

That would be the equivalent of me spending all day on a Japanese teen-pop forum, making a website designated to it, and spending hours trading mp3's of the latest japanese singers online.  

Not hating, just confused.  Any Explanations?  


And, on a second note, again, NOT HATING, just asking... many of these people are the same people that have almost a deep-seated hatred for America, and talk out against the country all the time, yet have an almost idol worship attitude about a few rappers from california, many of whom 99.999% of America disregard or don't even know exist (All the bay area cats, MC Eiht, Celly Cel, E-40, etc.)
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: mrtonguetwista on September 30, 2003, 08:02:43 PM
I feel where ya coming from on this issue.

  I was amazed that most of the cats were from foreign lands and they had some rare ass shit in their stashes. (i.e. Hi-C,Low Profile,K dee) and I'm here in the states and I can barely find MC Hammer :P  I'm not taking away from their hustle....but I've always been curious on how ya'll oversea folks know so much bout the west coast music scene, I dont mean the stuff nowadays...I mean knowledge of the stuff from the late 90s that isn't too much talked about. (40oz fits in that category).
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: SGV on September 30, 2003, 08:05:26 PM
(All the bay area cats, MC Eiht, Celly Cel, E-40, etc.)
I don't know if you're calling MC Eiht a Bay Rapper, which to me it seems you are, but he's not.


CMW was his group. The "C" didn't stand for Cisco. It wasn't Cisco's Most Wanted, it's Compton's Most Wanted.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: pastybrother on September 30, 2003, 08:10:52 PM
maybe the instruments used in westcoast music resembles there cultural sound of wherr dey frum, i think
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 30, 2003, 08:11:25 PM
Hi.  I know that.  Thank you.  
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: SGV on September 30, 2003, 08:12:15 PM
Hi.  I know that.  Thank you.  
You knew it, but you still placed him in that category. Way to go jackass.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 30, 2003, 08:13:33 PM
Suck, my diiiiiiick.


I didn't place him in that category, I just said "all bay area cats" then named some california rappers specifically, some from the bay, some from compton, really, who gives a fuck?
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: SGV on September 30, 2003, 08:23:18 PM
Suck, my diiiiiiick.

Sorry, I don't do that. Possibly you enjoy men doing that to you, but hey it's your life.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Trauma-san on September 30, 2003, 08:40:13 PM
OOOH, so witty!
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Bomb-AŽ on September 30, 2003, 10:02:17 PM
I don't understand it.  There's countless people on here that live in some country other than the U.S., I mean, even weird-ass countries I don't know shit about, that basically REVOLVE around westcoast music!  Why is that?  I mean, we've got people on here who spend hours a day, a significant chunk of their lives, either on this board, or on MIRC, that are from the middle of europe.  

That would be the equivalent of me spending all day on a Japanese teen-pop forum, making a website designated to it, and spending hours trading mp3's of the latest japanese singers online.  

Not hating, just confused.  Any Explanations?  


And, on a second note, again, NOT HATING, just asking... many of these people are the same people that have almost a deep-seated hatred for America, and talk out against the country all the time, yet have an almost idol worship attitude about a few rappers from california, many of whom 99.999% of America disregard or don't even know exist (All the bay area cats, MC Eiht, Celly Cel, E-40, etc.)

when people say they hate america, its got nothing to do with the american people or the lifestyle or the music. it is strictly against the government and the policy makers. btw im not one of those ppl.

even osama watches larry king lol.


peace
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Danté Williams on October 01, 2003, 01:14:44 AM
Music knows no boundaries.

Plus it aint only for the westcoast shit. Here u got european heads (like myself) diggin the wessyde style cause we're in a WC forum. Go to other non-WC forums and u'll find the same shit, europeans diggin east side shit or dirty south stuff.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: mauzip on October 01, 2003, 01:28:30 AM
I just listen to what I like and I do some research on it. That way you find out about artists they don't play on the radio over here. You don't have to be American to get dope music ;)
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: f0n|{sta on October 01, 2003, 02:28:57 AM
since i started listenin 2 westcoast music i cant stop it anymore  ;D
i like the beats, especially some dope g/p-funk. the smooth way...
i will bump this til i die...lol
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Don Seer on October 01, 2003, 02:58:08 AM
Music knows no boundaries.

Plus it aint only for the westcoast shit. Here u got european heads (like myself) diggin the wessyde style cause we're in a WC forum. Go to other non-WC forums and u'll find the same shit, europeans diggin east side shit or dirty south stuff.

yup yup... plus ya'll gotta remember... this forum is run by a european..
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: michael jackson on October 01, 2003, 03:15:27 AM
JAPAN HAVE A BIGG LOWRIDER SCENE, MAJESTIX FRUM COMPTON CAR CLUB GOT THEY OWN JAPAN CLUB SO DO MAFIA IV LIFE .OVER SEER WILL KNOW.THIS OVER SEER RUNNIN THIS TAGG BOOK MUCH LOC LUV BIGG CUZZ
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: mauzip on October 01, 2003, 04:54:08 AM
JAPAN HAVE A BIGG LOWRIDER SCENE, MAJESTIX FRUM COMPTON CAR CLUB GOT THEY OWN JAPAN CLUB SO DO MAFIA IV LIFE .OVER SEER WILL KNOW.THIS OVER SEER RUNNIN THIS TAGG BOOK MUCH LOC LUV BIGG CUZZ

idiot
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: OpTiCaL on October 01, 2003, 04:54:11 AM
Music knows no boundaries.

Plus it aint only for the westcoast shit. Here u got european heads (like myself) diggin the wessyde style cause we're in a WC forum. Go to other non-WC forums and u'll find the same shit, europeans diggin east side shit or dirty south stuff.

yup yup... plus ya'll gotta remember... this forum is run by a european..
Fo sure...we been into the scene since early 80's bro...
....it dont matter to me if ya from the west...east...south..canada etc...if ya got game then im hearin ya...

Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Mudpole on October 01, 2003, 06:32:16 AM
In my case it was just the fact that me and my friends
were exposed to westcoast music first and we were just
hooked on the music from then on
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: CRAFTY on October 01, 2003, 07:12:31 AM
Well, I just like West Coast rap...simple as that. I did some research on a few artists, bought a few albums. And I payed attention to the guest-appearances, then I bought albums from THOSE guys, etc...after a while you know A LOT of artists.

Too bad I always have to buy my albums via the Net, but that's the only negative thing.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Nightfall on October 01, 2003, 09:50:30 AM
its not at all big, wtf u talking bout?!

they play more southern and east coast rap here
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Suga Foot on October 01, 2003, 11:30:00 AM
So out of the Millions and Millions of Europeans, Trauma sees a few hundred of them that like West Coast Hip Hop, and he assumes that it's huge overseas.  I'm sure it's no bigger there than Puffy Ami Yumi is here.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 01, 2003, 11:47:33 AM

yup yup... plus ya'll gotta remember... this forum is run by a european..

I know, I'm just wondering why, it seems strange to me.  
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 01, 2003, 11:50:37 AM
So out of the Millions and Millions of Europeans, Trauma sees a few hundred of them that like West Coast Hip Hop, and he assumes that it's huge overseas.  I'm sure it's no bigger there than Puffy Ami Yumi is here.

First off, lower your tone, in case you don't know, I run shit here.  


*ahem.

Anyways, Like I said, I have no desire to devote a major portion of my life to Japanese rap.  Or German pop.  Or music from upper India.  I was just wondering what the deal is.  I wouldn't expect people to listen to it period from overseas, but the majority of the people on this board, and on MIRC it seems are from other countries, other than the U.S.  It's appreciated more over there, apparently, then it is on the eastcoast of the U.S.  
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: 40oz GRApHire on October 01, 2003, 11:58:43 AM
Good topic. Ive been into Westcoast rap for years & once you get into it, its like a virus  ;D. When you like some artist production/hooks/... you go & find who was behind it. Once you got that you just seek for more work from this particular person & further you go... I also readed alot of interviews, reviews & articles which I gathered from magazines & the internet The internet helped me alot as a european westcoast fan. I even have thoughts of moving to Los Angeles in a few years to expand my music fanatism (and ofcourse to get a living there).

PS: Props to the homie Mr.Tongue Twista for the mention.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Suga Foot on October 01, 2003, 02:00:11 PM
I have no desire to devote a major portion of my life to Japanese rap.  Or German pop.  Or music from upper India.

You don't, but maybe the guy down the street from you does.  And maybe all his friends do too.  Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there. Conversly, just because you see a small portion of people that do like something, doesn't mean that everyone does.  You are being very ignorant.  Go outside, experience other cultures. Since you seem so amazed that Europeans are doing it, why don't you go give it a try?
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Upanga on October 01, 2003, 02:25:18 PM
Speaking on my experiences, I think Westcoast rap scen is popular from where I come from ( East Africa ) because folks idolize everything about American culture ( from clothing, music, popular culture etc ). A lot of folks wants to emigrate to America.
The Westcoast rap scene was made more popular by 2Pac because he could relate to a lot of people about struggles, pain, happiness etc which he incorporated in his music. Plus of course, the G-Funk beat and the whole personality ( no a whole lot of flossing ).
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Trauma-san on October 01, 2003, 03:24:54 PM
Speaking on my experiences, I think Westcoast rap scen is popular from where I come from ( East Africa ) because folks idolize everything about American culture ( from clothing, music, popular culture etc ). A lot of folks wants to emigrate to America.
The Westcoast rap scene was made more popular by 2Pac because he could relate to a lot of people about struggles, pain, happiness etc which he incorporated in his music. Plus of course, the G-Funk beat and the whole personality ( no a whole lot of flossing ).

Hmm, that's interesting, thanks for your comments, Upanga.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Upanga on October 01, 2003, 03:53:31 PM
I also think people usually embraces something new ( like when Westcoast came to the scene prominently starting with the NWA days ). After that , you would want to learn and know more about it , and that's when you start diggin' to other rappers such as Askari X, AMG, Ant Banks,
Above the Law ( one of the pioneers of the G-Funk sound IMO), Lil' 1/2 Dead etc. I like to listen to all of them, not just mainstream dudes.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: LakersAlldaWay on October 01, 2003, 04:59:12 PM
Maybe people overseas arent blinded by a lot of the East Coast BS (and some south) music thats popular here. They like the REAL good music over there, which is West Coast...
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: eS El Duque on October 01, 2003, 07:07:45 PM
Music knows no boundaries.

Plus it aint only for the westcoast shit. Here u got european heads (like myself) diggin the wessyde style cause we're in a WC forum. Go to other non-WC forums and u'll find the same shit, europeans diggin east side shit or dirty south stuff.

yup yup... plus ya'll gotta remember... this forum is run by a european..


all hail overseer!! 8) ;D


i always thought this forum was made by an american :p

Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Danté Williams on October 02, 2003, 07:42:05 AM
The thing is, in countries like mine (Spain) where radio does not play much hiphop and shit, we aint "forced" to like eastcoast stuff. The people aint got prejudices against westcoast and, because they do their own research, are free of listening whatever they REALLY like, and not what radios force you to like.
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Gangstauu on October 02, 2003, 11:38:46 AM
real recognize real 8)

game recognize game  ;)

true though
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on October 02, 2003, 12:40:54 PM
So out of the Millions and Millions of Europeans, Trauma sees a few hundred of them that like West Coast Hip Hop, and he assumes that it's huge overseas.  I'm sure it's no bigger there than Puffy Ami Yumi is here.

word, its jus not as big as it seems
Title: Re:Why is westcoast rap so big overseas?
Post by: Diabolical on October 02, 2003, 01:53:10 PM
Everyone plz e-mail this guy and ask him to play more west coast shit hes the only national hip hop Dj in the UK and yall want west coast to blow up dontcha? Say sumfin about IV life and DR n Crook

westwood@bbc.co.uk