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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Big BpG on October 03, 2003, 08:22:37 PM
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Don't even start with this he is getting better crap. He is getting worse and YALL are just accepting it. His best era as a rapper was 1999-2001 ... those two years saw classic records like Eastsidaz, 2001, and Last Meal.
PTCTBTB = wack!
His new appearances are wack, he raps about the same shit in every song... his cadillac, his pimp image and so on... I haven't even cared about his new shit anymore...its sad, cause he was one of my all-time favs.
-BpG
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thats EXCTLY how i feel... i use to think he was tha ultimate best rapper ever... now he is just any other rapper like ja rule, nelly, luda, chingy, and others... so i moved on to BTNH and i still bump Mobb Deep but they have gotten worse over the years aswell...
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i just chill with music now... mostly old rap, classic 70's rock... can't go wrong with classic material....rap is garbage now... no need to even listen to it... IMO the south is really hott right now...lil jon has it cooking
-BpG
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i just chill with music now... mostly old rap, classic 70's rock... can't go wrong with classic material....rap is garbage now... no need to even listen to it... IMO the south is really hott right now...lil jon has it cooking
-BpG
Yeah, im getting into alot of Chopped and Screwed shit right now and listening to alot of old school Prince... so tis all good and rap does suck now... im out!!!
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I wouldn't call him wack, but his new stuff isn't all that, It's not interesting anymore, you're right, he just raps about the same stuff on each song, nothing creative. I do like the hook to the holidae inn song, though, just because it's funny.
However, one of the things that always struck me about you BPG, even though you had the biggest Snoop site on the net, and for a while were the biggest Snoop fan around, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about (I say that respectfully). His best era as a rapper was 99-01? Thats' the problem I always had with your opinion on matters Snoop; you actually think his shit from 99 is better than Doggystyle. You're out of your mind. Just because that was the first you got into Snoop, I understand you're a little jaded, but I was around when Snoop first dropped, and that shit was HOT, the stuff in 99 was nice, but it paled compared to the phenom that was Snoop in 93 or so.
Peace~
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The Death Row and 99-01 was Snoops Era's IMO... .
and also i would NEVER expect for BPG to say that lmao...
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Gettin? He's been.
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i don't think snoops best era was 99 on but you are totally right that hes dropped off since then............i mean people used to say back then even he was hollywood ect but he was still straight westcoast representing like you said the first eastsidaz, 2001, last meal were tight and you can also through in top dogg he was great on that (imo it would have been classic if it had dpg artists on it)......now even though i think he comes tight at times i really think that he has that hollywood fell now
to me the only hope is that 213 blows up westcoast style......and daz ect influence him to rep the west more, also dre blowin up again might help, it's not a lost cause but it's pretty bad right now
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If that's your honest opinion then take the Snoop out of your sig and avatar cuz it's making yourself look wack.
Snoop is NOT getting wack.
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Word, even Big BpG admits it.. props.
It's a shame that people constantly claim that he's improving and his flow "untouchable" and "spitting like Doggystyle".
What used to be the Westcoast Don, is reduced to cameos on Chingy, Justin Timberlake, Neptunes, Limp Bizkit, I don't need to go on.
Hopefully the 213-project and Eastsidaz can get him back on track, but the 213-teasers doesn't sound promising, and neither does his co-op with P.Diddy & constant work with Neptunes.
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What used to be the Westcoast Don, is reduced to cameos on Chingy, Justin Timberlake, Neptunes, Limp Bizkit, I don't need to go on.
Um, aside from Chingy, those are all established artists.
Anyway, Snoop has been wack for so long. He needs to give it up. This whole fake ass Pimp thing killed him. He ruined his music with it. Trying way too hard to bring that 70s vibe was straight booty.
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sad thing is that its not only snoop getting worse...its the whole westcoast gangsta rap scene. i hardly find myself listening to a new album as much as i do with all the older stuff from back in the days.
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snoops just wants to sell, have a good time and expand his horizon
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this is definitly a topic we need slickafella to post in
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Don't even start with this he is getting better crap. He is getting worse and YALL are just accepting it. His best era as a rapper was 1999-2001 ... those two years saw classic records like Eastsidaz, 2001, and Last Meal.
PTCTBTB = wack!
His new appearances are wack, he raps about the same shit in every song... his cadillac, his pimp image and so on... I haven't even cared about his new shit anymore...its sad, cause he was one of my all-time favs.
-BpG
put a p.diddy pic in your avatar ....
shame on you for sayin shit like that >:(
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I haven't really felt anything Snoop's done since "The Last Meal".
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Last Meal is well overrated IMO. That albums a PRIME example of Snoop not being creative. I really can't see how some people can regard it as a classic ::) a classic is in the same league as Doggystyle, The Chronic, Illmatic, Straight Outta Compton, 36 Chambers, Ready To Die, Reasonable Doubt etc.... No fuckin way is The Last Meal in that catergory! Its funny how the critics slated Last Meal yet a huge majority of fans love it, yet the critics praised PTCTBTB and the majority of fans hated it. I bet Snoop and co thought he was gonna blow up again becuse he was riding the success of 2001 and there was all that hype surrounding the Last Meal. He had a great chance to reclaim his spot with that album and he blew it.
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snoop is wack...he's a sellout...he's no different than ja rule, nelly, diddy and all the other mainsteam artists..that just make pop to try and sell records...its just that a lot of people in the board are so stuck on his dick they cant realize it 8)
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i just chill with music now... mostly old rap, classic 70's rock... can't go wrong with classic material....
-BpG
Me too, I seem to listen to rock more than rap now... Led Zeppelin 8) and Ac Dc ( :-[ ) lol fasho.
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To the ones catching feelings over this, the man is just offering an opinion.
put a p.diddy pic in your avatar ....
shame on you for sayin shit like that
Why should he change it? He can still be a fan of Snoop even if he doesn't feel his new stuff.
Anyways, when it's all said & done, fuck Snoop Dogg. Hypocrite/sellout/wack rapper/wack actor etc....
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Snoop hasnt been a good rapper in a long time fella's. After Pac died his flow & voice went weak & started singing, but yall idiots would buy becoz of Dres beats & shit. & now that his raps voice flow lyrics are getting better yall hatin on him
ure the ones that are sellouts & dont know what rap is about
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Last Meal is well overrated IMO. That albums a PRIME example of Snoop not being creative. I really can't see how some people can regard it as a classic ::) a classic is in the same league as Doggystyle, The Chronic, Illmatic, Straight Outta Compton, 36 Chambers, Ready To Die, Reasonable Doubt etc.... No fuckin way is The Last Meal in that catergory! Its funny how the critics slated Last Meal yet a huge majority of fans love it, yet the critics praised PTCTBTB and the majority of fans hated it. I bet Snoop and co thought he was gonna blow up again becuse he was riding the success of 2001 and there was all that hype surrounding the Last Meal. He had a great chance to reclaim his spot with that album and he blew it.
I agree 100%
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i never was a person that said this alot but to me snoops flow actually has gotten better....if he had flowed like he did on ptctbtb on the last meal it would have been alot better.....lately it seems he has been rapping more aggressive..............btw snoop still to me ain't on the same level as ja rule ect i mean snoops done one love song and if you listen to the lyrics he's talken about twistin up his fingers and wearing dark blue, he's now more in the main stream level of like jay z, ludicrus, 50 cent were he ain't totally popped out but he's alot more than he used to be
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I can't believe how much hate Snoop gets on this board. Its pretty sad IMO. Considering the guys prolly done more the for the westcoast (besides Dre) than any other artist.
Snoops not the same rapper he used to be, but I give him credit where credit is due, 10 years later, still making hits, doing his thing. Props to Snoop, fuck the haters.
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its not hate its criticism, i mean u have to be blind and deaf not to see and hear the difference between the old snoop and this new snoop, he is expanding his horizons in rap music but as he does, he sounds more and more different to alot who are use to the old snoop, i for one will always listen to snoop but it aint no coincidence that i listen to his older stuff more than his newer stuff
snoop has done alot for the westcoast in the past but not lately
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I can't believe how much hate Snoop gets on this board. Its pretty sad IMO. Considering the guys prolly done more the for the westcoast (besides Dre) than any other artist.
Snoops not the same rapper he used to be, but I give him credit where credit is due, 10 years later, still making hits, doing his thing. Props to Snoop, fuck the haters.
Good post. *props*
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snoop has done alot for the westcoast in the past but not lately
Actually, Snoops been getting the chance lately to do alot for the left coast. I live on the eastcoast, and to me, Snoops the only one in the spotlight right now from the west. He's keeping it moving with the Chuuch mixtapes, getting the chance to promote artists like Soopafly and E White, working with RBX and 213 again. Hes doing a good job right now IMO, better than the past few years.
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who gives a fuck what he has done for the west in the past. he fuckin wack now an has been since 2000
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I can't believe how much hate Snoop gets on this board. Its pretty sad IMO. Considering the guys prolly done more the for the westcoast (besides Dre) than any other artist.
Snoops not the same rapper he used to be, but I give him credit where credit is due, 10 years later, still making hits, doing his thing. Props to Snoop, fuck the haters.
Word up Rep...
and I don't know how people can say Snoop sounds worse now then ever before? to me Snoop's flow over the last while has sounded a lot more hungry, and he's coming with more energy... and that's the type of Snoop flow im lookin for...
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ppl who say snoops flow is now wack are idiots, nuff said, n then come into everyone eminem joint claimin he king no matta whether he does come sick or not..............
i giv u one thing, snoop aint as interestin as he was befo no doubt since he be spittin to much of the same shit on each joint..........but his flow is on game no doubt
imo
peace
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I can't believe how much hate Snoop gets on this board. Its pretty sad IMO. Considering the guys prolly done more the for the westcoast (besides Dre) than any other artist.
The Person Who Done Most For The West Was Pac, In The 2 Or So Years He Was With DR He Always Repped The West To The Fullest And Never Sold Out, Not That Im Saying Snoop Has Or Anything. If Pac Was Still Alive The West Would Be On Top IMO.
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I can't believe how much hate Snoop gets on this board. Its pretty sad IMO. Considering the guys prolly done more the for the westcoast (besides Dre) than any other artist.
The Person Who Done Most For The West Was Pac, In The 2 Or So Years He Was With DR He Always Repped The West To The Fullest And Never Sold Out, Not That Im Saying Snoop Has Or Anything. If Pac Was Still Alive The West Would Be On Top IMO.
no offense but if snoop had died in 95 you could say pretty much the same thing..it's too hard to think of what would happen cause it's hard to imagine back then where dre/snoop/ kurupt/ daz/ warren g would be like today
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Alright, im going to post more, but first off, the avatar is staying. Just because I dont feel his music as much doesn't mean I cant still show my respect for his music, because yes, he keeps it going and won't stop till need be, but hopefully this era is just another 96-98 era where he was making music the fans didn't want.
First off, Snoop's old school music, its classic, im not clowning, I just feel that his music from 99-01 was some of the deepest music he has ever written. You can't argue that. During those years Snoop opened his heart and soul and rapped about his emotions. His old school music was entertaining, party hardy, hardcore, but not thoughtful. As a fan of music, I always listen to the verse before I respect the production. You could have a tight beat, but rap about nothing. I dont like that, I never will, whether its rap or rock.
Second. The westcoast is just slow. Real slow. What made the westcoast pop? Snoop, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube and you know the rest. They've gone their own way and we have to respect that, but as fans we are hurting because are music is not there. We can't go to a club and hear OUR music play unless its Nuthin But A G Thang Babyyyyyyy!!!!
As for Snoop, he is all about the money right now, which I dont like. He has money, but he's not being creative, he's not an artist. He doesn't work to perfection, he works to get that check in the mail. We all work our ass off at whatever we do, and get nothing. Snoop had to, but doesn't have to anymore, he's taking advantage of his image and that's sad because Snoop will always be considered an under achiever for that. How can you go from Doggystyle and end up with PTCTBTB, which IMO is his worst album.
As for 213. Personally, I believe it's going to be half-ass. How can we expect greatness. We know the album is rushed. It was announced last last year and a release is coming soon. To me, it sounds like three very old men finding any time they have to spit a verse, then run off to appear on MTV to get thier face on. It doesn't seem like endless hours of lab work, producing, writing...it doesn't sound like perfection. Look at Dre, we can't be mad at him. Whether its with the west or the east, he works hard and we know it. WE DONT SEE HIM EVERYWHERE... we know where he is right now... in the lab.....working...
we just want greatness, thats all. Work hard at it so you can be proud of it. Dont drop it for another check, drop it cause you feel its the best you have to offer. No matter how you do it, you will make money. If you do it the right way, you'll make more.
-BpG
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Good posts in here but as usual I think the reality lies in the middle. Snoop isn't making the greatest shit lately,but he isn't wack. He does help the westcoast and has done a great lot in the past,yet he doesn't do as much as he could do. IMO,he still wants to make good music but money plays a too big role and he may not have a good perception on what his fans really want him to do.
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I haven't really felt anything Snoop's done since "The Last Meal".
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Good posts in here but as usual I think the reality lies in the middle. Snoop isn't making the greatest shit lately,but he isn't wack. He does help the westcoast and has done a great lot in the past,yet he doesn't do as much as he could do. IMO,he still wants to make good music but money plays a too big role and he may not have a good perception on what his fans really want him to do.
bpg props on your post i feel what your saying but what z virus posted here i think is about right
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watching him perform at the recent mtv awards did it for me.
im still gonna check for him, but i probably wont even buy his next album. and i have all his albums including the Es albums. snoop has one fan less. he probably makes 10 new ones for every 1 he loses to that bubblegum shit. so he won't mind.
peace