West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Lincoln on October 06, 2003, 04:11:15 PM
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Judge labels by what they release not what they released. It's sad to see people liking these labels just cause they released classics back in the day.
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Without Ruthless or Death Row i would'nt like rap as much as i do now... Yeah they suck now but at one point there were the shit... Im grateful(sp?) for them releasing classic shit then never releasing nothing classic at all...
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I agree with u. I hate when people still support Death Row and shit...it's even worst when I kno people who like Death Row, but hate Snoop and Dre and think they are bitches and all else. I am only grateful that Death Row made it possible for classic music to be released...but if the Death Row roster had been on (Slap-a-hoe) records instead, it still woulda been the same classic music...the company itself wasn't the reason the music was good.
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Nothin' wrong with listening to hip-hop at it's best.
besides to some it's not old school.
It's what we grew up listening to, kinda like most of you today. ;)
(when it was FRESH)
Peace
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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I agree with u. I hate when people still support Death Row and shit...it's even worst when I kno people who like Death Row, but hate Snoop and Dre and think they are bitches and all else. I am only grateful that Death Row made it possible for classic music to be released...but if the Death Row roster had been on (Slap-a-hoe) records instead, it still woulda been the same classic music...the company itself wasn't the reason the music was good.
So, if I like Deathrow becuase of Crooked I & Eastwood, I'm still wrong? And, if I don't like Snoop because of his wack izzle dizzle sizzle nizzle raps and his fake Pimp persona, I'm wrong? If I don't like Dre because he doesn't create his own beats, I'm wrong? LMAO.
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I agree with u. I hate when people still support Death Row and shit...it's even worst when I kno people who like Death Row, but hate Snoop and Dre and think they are bitches and all else. I am only grateful that Death Row made it possible for classic music to be released...but if the Death Row roster had been on (Slap-a-hoe) records instead, it still woulda been the same classic music...the company itself wasn't the reason the music was good.
So, if I like Deathrow becuase of Crooked I & Eastwood, I'm still wrong? And, if I don't like Snoop because of his wack izzle dizzle sizzle nizzle raps and his fake Pimp persona, I'm wrong? If I don't like Dre because he doesn't create his own beats, I'm wrong? LMAO.
Nothing wrong with what you're saying. My beef is with those who like Death Row just because of what they did before. I love Crooked I & Eastwood but it's not because of their affiliation.
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Nothing wrong with what you're saying. My beef is with those who like Death Row just because of what they did before. I love Crooked I & Eastwood but it's not because of their affiliation.
That was directed towards RTistic. I agree with what you said. Fuck liking shit because of affiliation.
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Nothing wrong with what you're saying. My beef is with those who like Death Row just because of what they did before. I love Crooked I & Eastwood but it's not because of their affiliation.
That was directed towards RTistic. I agree with what you said. Fuck liking shit because of affiliation.
ok cool. I agree. Most successful rappers nowadays are getting put on because of affiliation, its wack.
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i think its because people still have some hope that these labels are gonna bring the west coast back or release something even though both of these labels are DEAD at the moment
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People who still have hope for Tha Row are pretty damn dumb. It wasn't the label or Suge who made West Coast rap so big in the early to mid-nineties, it was the artists signed to the label. Pac, Dre, Snoop, DPG, Nate, Warren, Above the Law, etc. I laugh at dudes who still jocc Suge and the Death Row label, yet they hate Snoop and Dre's guts. They totally clueless.
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People who still have hope for Tha Row are pretty damn dumb. It wasn't the label or Suge who made West Coast rap so big in the early to mid-nineties, it was the artists signed to the label. Pac, Dre, Snoop, DPG, Nate, Warren, Above the Law, etc. I laugh at dudes who still jocc Suge and the Death Row label, yet they hate Snoop and Dre's guts. They totally clueless.
Are you serious? Suge didn't do nothing? Who do you think go Dre out his contract? Suge. Dre would still be getting fucked at Ruthless if it wasn't for Suge. If it wasn't for Suge's money there would've been no Deathrow. Like I said, Dre would still be getting fucked at Ruthless, Snoop would probably be on the street still, there would be no DPG, and Pac would still be in jail. Btw, Warren G was never signed to Deathrow, and ATL was signed after the "era" was done.
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I agree with u. I hate when people still support Death Row and shit...it's even worst when I kno people who like Death Row, but hate Snoop and Dre and think they are bitches and all else. I am only grateful that Death Row made it possible for classic music to be released...but if the Death Row roster had been on (Slap-a-hoe) records instead, it still woulda been the same classic music...the company itself wasn't the reason the music was good.
So, if I like Deathrow becuase of Crooked I & Eastwood, I'm still wrong? And, if I don't like Snoop because of his wack izzle dizzle sizzle nizzle raps and his fake Pimp persona, I'm wrong? If I don't like Dre because he doesn't create his own beats, I'm wrong? LMAO.
Well let me clarify....IF you like Death Row because of them, and u hate Snoop because of that, then it's no problem. What I am saying is that it's people who STILL like Death Row just because of the past, but might not even care about Crooked I or Eastwood. And they will dislike Snoop and Dre for the same reasons that Suge hates em, not because they think he's wack. It's people that will say "Snoop isn't wack but he's a bitch because he is scared of Suge knight and because he's a snitch" and "Dre is a dope producer but he is gay, doesn't make his own beats, never was gangsta" etc. etc. which is all personal reasons not relating to talent. I shoulda clarified that instead of sayin it how I did.
With me, I like Eastwood and Crooked I, but I hate the company that they are on, and the fact that barely anybody knows about them.
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I'm not stuck on them... Ruthless doesn't even exist in my world, and deathrow hasn't released a new album of new material in what, 4 years now? Too gangsta for radio was the last, right?
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People who still have hope for Tha Row are pretty damn dumb. It wasn't the label or Suge who made West Coast rap so big in the early to mid-nineties, it was the artists signed to the label. Pac, Dre, Snoop, DPG, Nate, Warren, Above the Law, etc. I laugh at dudes who still jocc Suge and the Death Row label, yet they hate Snoop and Dre's guts. They totally clueless.
Are you serious? Suge didn't do nothing? Who do you think go Dre out his contract? Suge. Dre would still be getting fucked at Ruthless if it wasn't for Suge. If it wasn't for Suge's money there would've been no Deathrow. Like I said, Dre would still be getting fucked at Ruthless, Snoop would probably be on the street still, there would be no DPG, and Pac would still be in jail. Btw, Warren G was never signed to Deathrow, and ATL was signed after the "era" was done.
I didn't say Suge did nothing, I said he wasn't the main factor. Look at Tha Row now. They have an abundance of talent IMO, but why aren't they makin' an impact in the game? Because Suge's fat ass ain't gettin' they albums out. He's too busy authorizing shitty ass 2pac remix albums. And where is Dre and Snoop? I think we all see who got the much better end outta that.
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I'm not stuck on them... Ruthless doesn't even exist in my world, and deathrow hasn't released a new album of new material in what, 4 years now? Too gangsta for radio was the last, right?
You could count the Dysfunktional Family OST.
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I didn't say Suge did nothing, I said he wasn't the main factor. Look at Tha Row now. They have an abundance of talent IMO, but why aren't they makin' an impact in the game? Because Suge's fat ass ain't gettin' they albums out. He's too busy authorizing shitty ass 2pac remix albums. And where is Dre and Snoop? I think we all see who got the much better end outta that.
You pretty much said Suge wasn't a reason for their success. Suge WAS, keyword was, a good business man. Once Pac died, he started going in and out of jail, that was it for him. Right now his focus is on destroying Snoop, he's not focused about any of his artists. But, the label still has a lot talent.
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Without Ruthless or Death Row i would'nt like rap as much as i do now... Yeah they suck now but at one point there were the shit... Im grateful(sp?) for them releasing classic shit then never releasing nothing classic at all...
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I love the old school DPG THA ROW & THE RUTHLESS SHIT
What i dont like is idiots like ruthlesseazye postin here & repeating the same shit Eazy said 10 years ago like he really Eazy
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what!?! fuck you engies.. look out.. here comes my left blowwwwww 8)
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Suge was not a good businessman then and certainly not now. Suge had some money (some say not his own), and he muscled his way into the industry. That's the only thing I will give him credit for. Just because you have some money does not make you a good businessman. It's what you do with the money you've made. I hate to do this, but I must do it to prove my point....ready...Suge vs. Puffy, Deathrow vs. Bad Boy. Bad Boy is still a successful record company and Deathrow is not because Puffy (like him or not) is a BUSINESSMAN and Suge is really just a record label CEO. There is a difference. BadBoy has changed distributers, lost Biggie, Mase, most of the original production team, they had a down period and even now I would take Deathrows talent over Bad Boys anyday. Da Band, Puffy himself, Loon...need I say more. THE ARTIST ARE WACK. Yet they survive and DR can't even release a talent like Crooked I....That is sad. I will not even mention Ruthless. All that talk Suge has done against Puffy/Dre/even Snoop, and look where they are and their companies are compared to his company. Enough said......Crooked I, Eastwood and the rest of you DR Dickriders had better wake up from your dream. IT'S OVER.
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what!?! fuck you engies.. look out.. here comes my left blowwwwww 8)
gap teeth in yo mouth so my dicks got to fit....gggeeeeaahhhh
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;D
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I didn't say Suge did nothing, I said he wasn't the main factor. Look at Tha Row now. They have an abundance of talent IMO, but why aren't they makin' an impact in the game? Because Suge's fat ass ain't gettin' they albums out. He's too busy authorizing shitty ass 2pac remix albums. And where is Dre and Snoop? I think we all see who got the much better end outta that.
You pretty much said Suge wasn't a reason for their success. Suge WAS, keyword was, a good business man. Once Pac died, he started going in and out of jail, that was it for him. Right now his focus is on destroying Snoop, he's not focused about any of his artists. But, the label still has a lot talent.
You are such a dumbass...
I don't think a lot of people are stuck on DR because of its past, they just give DR a second chance. I'm one of those people. I don't like (like everybody here lol) that 2Pac remix album, but some of you are biting on DR among others because of Better Dayz. That was the 2Pac album I liked the least, but it was still a decent album.
I don't like Crooked I and Eastwood too much. They are those kind of rappers that need good production to make a good track cause they're nothing special themselves really. Danny Boy has always been dope and I look forward to their album. We haven't heard too much from Kurupt ever since he's with DR again, so I'm not gonna judge on him yet.
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Well let me clarify....IF you like Death Row because of them, and u hate Snoop because of that, then it's no problem. What I am saying is that it's people who STILL like Death Row just because of the past, but might not even care about Crooked I or Eastwood. And they will dislike Snoop and Dre for the same reasons that Suge hates em, not because they think he's wack. It's people that will say "Snoop isn't wack but he's a bitch because he is scared of Suge knight and because he's a snitch" and "Dre is a dope producer but he is gay, doesn't make his own beats, never was gangsta" etc. etc. which is all personal reasons not relating to talent. I shoulda clarified that instead of sayin it how I did.
Yea If you think about it... Dre, Snoop, and all them, they didnt change personalities since they
left death row as far as I know, many people who never even met them in person loved them to death
back in the days and nowaydays they try to hate them just cause they're not repping their
faovorite rap crew anymore or just cause suge does like you said. that shit is funny to me.
and i dont think theres only one person responsible for the death row success back in the 90s.
suge brought the money and dre the music, they were both responsible. if it wasnt for one of them
there wouldnt be as much success...but dre was the main factor you cant deny that. proof is suge is
still there and dre's not, and the label is dead even if the label has a lot talent.
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You are such a dumbass...
Why? Because I make a good point that you can't argue? Haha. Crooked I isn't that special? So, I guess making Chino XL look like a rookie in a cypher, destroying tracks with Ras Kass, Planet Asia, Scarface or Sly Boogy is something every rapper can do?
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Haha. Crooked I KILLED Chino XL on that one freestlye on the Wake Up Show. I never really felt Chino lyrically anyways though, but a lot of people worhip him like he's a mic God.
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Haha. Crooked I KILLED Chino XL on that one freestlye on the Wake Up Show. I never really felt Chino lyrically anyways though, but a lot of people worhip him like he's a mic God.
"Jesus came in the booth like 'XL, you the next me'"-Chino XL.
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I'm say this once only...Whoever thinks Suge wasn't a MAJOR factor in Death Row's success is someone who does not know tha business...Tha fact that he used guerilla tactics and got MAJOR distribution which waz like WOAH in that era MADE Death Row...No way he can do what he did back then in this era because everyone is doing what he started doin except it's way easier now but at tha same time harder...tha top 10 singles of this week is all hip hop...what does that tell U? I'll let yall draw yur own conclusion...
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Haha. Crooked I KILLED Chino XL on that one freestlye on the Wake Up Show. I never really felt Chino lyrically anyways though, but a lot of people worhip him like he's a mic God.
"Jesus came in the booth like 'XL, you the next me'"-Chino XL.
That line's corny IMO.
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That line's corny IMO.
Oooooooh now I know why you don't like Chino.
"Wrapping my yellow hands around your asaphagis 'til your face turns purple like it was Leaky Leak, a nigga with one ball shouldn't speak"
"Still be on ya back if Suge didn't bail ya"
"Nigga you ain't never ever seeeen drama, fuck you and your dope feeeeind mama"
LMAO! Chi ripped Pac up.
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Haha. I thought you'd never figure it out ::)
In all honestly though, I've never ever heard Chono's diss(es) to Pac. So nah, that ain't why I think he's overrated.
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R.I.P. Tupac Amaru Shakur. Greatest emcee ever. Period.
Right.
I bet whenever you hear Chino XL, you say: Fuck you too!
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I'm say this once only...Whoever thinks Suge wasn't a MAJOR factor in Death Row's success is someone who does not know tha business...Tha fact that he used guerilla tactics and got MAJOR distribution which waz like WOAH in that era MADE Death Row...No way he can do what he did back then in this era because everyone is doing what he started doin except it's way easier now but at tha same time harder...tha top 10 singles of this week is all hip hop...what does that tell U? I'll let yall draw yur own conclusion...
all depends who you believe... a lot of stuff out there says they only got their deal as it was because of Dre.. look at Dre.. left Death Row, walked straight into another major distro, without Dre, they cant distribute shit apart from Pac.
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You are such a dumbass...
Why? Because I make a good point that you can't argue? Haha. Crooked I isn't that special? So, I guess making Chino XL look like a rookie in a cypher, destroying tracks with Ras Kass, Planet Asia, Scarface or Sly Boogy is something every rapper can do?
There you proof my point. I wasn't saying that because of your opinion about Crooked I and Chino XL. You're a dumbass for saying that Suge Knight wasn't one of the main factors behind Death Row.
People who still have hope for Tha Row are pretty damn dumb. It wasn't the label or Suge who made West Coast rap so big in the early to mid-nineties, it was the artists signed to the label.
It was both. You and I, well you don't I suppose, both know that. You try to act like you know everything about music business, but you just don't. :-*
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I mos def don't know everything. Everyone knows Suge got them to Deathrow, but the artists were the ones making the huge hits. Not Suge. I'll say it again: If Suge was so damn good, then Tha Row would still be on top of the game today. Look at their talent pool. Besides the lacc of a good producer, it might be just as good as it was in the mid-nineties. Suge ain't shit but a bully, thug, thief, bacc stabber, liar, gangster, etc.
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Let me also clarify my statement for you Suge lovers. Yes Suge played a major role in the rise of Deathrow. He muscled his way in and made things happen. Suge is also however the major reason for the fall of Deathrow and he has burned so many bridges in the industry. When Dre started Aftermath, DR was still on top and Aftermath had a dissapointing start. Look at them now...Is Dre a thug?? NO. Does Dre spend time gossiping and talking about other people's business?? NO. Is Dre a talented artist/businessman??? YES. Being a thug/bully with no real music talent simply does not last. Want proof??? Look at Suge Knight....You Crooked I, Eastwood fans should hope they will have the courage/balls to see the light one day and leave Deathrow before it's too late.
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There you proof my point. I wasn't saying that because of your opinion about Crooked I and Chino XL. You're a dumbass for saying that Suge Knight wasn't one of the main factors behind Death Row.
Are you serious? Suge didn't do nothing? Who do you think go Dre out his contract? Suge. Dre would still be getting fucked at Ruthless if it wasn't for Suge. If it wasn't for Suge's money there would've been no Deathrow. Like I said, Dre would still be getting fucked at Ruthless, Snoop would probably be on the street still, there would be no DPG, and Pac would still be in jail. Btw, Warren G was never signed to Deathrow, and ATL was signed after the "era" was done.
Learn to read homo.
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There you proof my point. I wasn't saying that because of your opinion about Crooked I and Chino XL. You're a dumbass for saying that Suge Knight wasn't one of the main factors behind Death Row.
Are you serious? Suge didn't do nothing? Who do you think go Dre out his contract? Suge. Dre would still be getting fucked at Ruthless if it wasn't for Suge. If it wasn't for Suge's money there would've been no Deathrow. Like I said, Dre would still be getting fucked at Ruthless, Snoop would probably be on the street still, there would be no DPG, and Pac would still be in jail. Btw, Warren G was never signed to Deathrow, and ATL was signed after the "era" was done.
Learn to read homo.
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Read through this thread again :-\ Sicc_Wit_It is the dumbass, not you.