West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Liquid-Dogg on October 08, 2003, 02:07:07 AM
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Anyone else feelin the statement (dunno if any of you uk guys listen to it) peeps like klashnekoff, task force, Sway Dasafo,jehst, usmaan are realler then most shit i hear from the us....now i know what ya'll real hip hop heds are gonna say, 'the fuck does he know, he only get's fifty over there', but that ain't tru. In my opinion peeps like jedi mind tricks and canibus and talib are the best from over there. Ok, i don't get know many underground local artists like i do from over here, (Terra firma, villains etc) i jus think that over here, the artist's know they ain't gonna get any money for the rappin, so they doin it outta love then $$$. they never talk about money, it's always on the same level as normal people, rather then the rappers thinkin they the best thing in town. check the followin songs
: Ollie Bates - 'Undiscovered'
Youngun - 'City Breaks'
Klashnekoff - 'Our Time' & 'Parrowdice'
Sway Dasafo - 'Why'
Genesis & Wordsmith - 'Give Me Back My Life'
Roots Manuva - 'Dreamy Days'
PQ - 'Jus For Her'
Task Force Ft. Pegasus - 'Tru To Tha Art'
Life - 'I Really Care'
It may be debatable that it's better then the hip hop over there, but they def on the same level now. The fact is, we have very few rappers that sell out, Dizzy Rascal was lucky. He ain't that great, everyone's jus on his dick over here cuz they think he's the first rapper from the uk.
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People are quick forget about the old UK originals London Posse, and Hijack... we've had our share of us-wannabes too tho... nothin much from the UK has really grabbed me, apart from Aspects, but i'll admit i'm biased because I know 2 of em, well knew, I heard one of em got booted for being too much of a stoner.. lol
i can only remember one of there lines (from the guy that I heard got booted 'bubberlouie' )
i rock around the hills of the south west region / stick my head in caves and rap in natural coleseums
that sure aint talkin about where they live now (bristol) thats talking about here, their home town coz we live in between two ranges of hills (quantocks on the north, blackdowns on the south)
i liked their stuff because I grew up with them and i could related to everything, because some of those experiences were shared... i dunno how it strikes other people.
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Do U really think any of those UK Hip Hop acts could live with a guy like Canibus ???
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Why not? just because they're nto american, because they might not be black?
its always possible.
UK hiphop doesnt have the bling bling aspect, it doesnt have alot of money in it, the people in it are doing it for love. its more 'real' to us.. which means it wont commercially sell, but it doesnt mean its worse.
UK hiphop still clings to the 'old' hiphop sensibilities.. but hey, Aspects managed to get played on and interviewed on -daytime- Radio 1 when their album came out, so anythings possible.
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U.K Is still behind IMO
U got guys who rap in an American voice which is corny.
Dizzy Rascal claming he is Hip Hop lol Dude need to go back to the studio ;D
Oh and Bis is from Jamaica ;)
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People are quick forget about the old UK originals London Posse, and Hijack... we've had our share of us-wannabes too tho... nothin much from the UK has really grabbed me, apart from Aspects, but i'll admit i'm biased because I know 2 of em, well knew, I heard one of em got booted for being too much of a stoner.. lol
i can only remember one of there lines (from the guy that I heard got booted 'bubberlouie' )
i rock around the hills of the south west region / stick my head in caves and rap in natural coleseums
that sure aint talkin about where they live now (bristol) thats talking about here, their home town coz we live in between two ranges of hills (quantocks on the north, blackdowns on the south)
i liked their stuff because I grew up with them and i could related to everything, because some of those experiences were shared... i dunno how it strikes other people.
Know exactly where you're coming from. I'd always rather hear something I can relate to on a personal level ... problem is that unless you're willing to really look hard, a lot of UK stuff isn't in-your-face enough to find easily... hence the perception that we'll never keep up with the US... I honestly would struggle to name 10 current UK acts I knew a lot about...
Think I responded to one of your posts about Hijack before... great album... lol at 'Don't Talk To Strangers'... good memories of bumping those tunes... might sound a little corny now In guess.
lol... just remembered a couple of pop hip-hop acts here... anyone remember Eusebe or Subsonic 2?
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its behind in the commercial sense yes, technically only because the money for expensives studios isnt there, they're all at home with asr-10's (mark b and blade started that trend i believe), the themes arent 'gdup', they cover how we really live over here.. UK culture.. yeah we've got yardie influence in places.. London Posse had a lot of that.. u remember that old rave track 'i was standing in the corner... i had some marijuana' shit that used to be blasted out by Ratpack.. thats a London Posse cut the junglists latched on to. (i used to be a junglist at the peak.. '93 -> '96, my best mates been a jungle dj for over 10 years, he now plays nu skool breakz too, and right now is playing that more coz its not so popular. i've met a lot of the major players in that game - good people)
Uk duo Hijack used to be signed to Ice-Ts Syndicate imprint, their stuff was definitely UK influenced, dancey style beats. i think "bad man is robbin" was their big track, but i remember "doomsday of rap" more.. DJ Supreme from hijack capitalised off his rep from hijack, and moved off into more dancey stuff..
the days of uk rappers (like i said us-wannabes) sounding like US rappers is gone now, it wont wash anymore. uk hiphop is very similar now to underground US hiphop, the bad attitudes are beginning to fade.. they just gotta learn to have fun with it, and not take it so seriously, Aspects partly paved the way with shit like "we get fowl".. who else would make a whole song just about chickens and geese?
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Task Force Ft. Pegasus - 'Tru To Tha Art'
isnt pegasus ozzie??
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A lot of acts try and sound American or Jamaican
And there all from fuckin London
And WTF does Realer mean
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Klashnekoff....if he was american would be rated top 5 emcees at the momemt...worldwide...
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A lot of acts try and sound American or Jamaican
And there all from fuckin London
And WTF does Realer mean
LOL @ Realer
And nah, they aint all from london
Aspects are from bristol, I know theres a really really really funny outfit from down around there called "The Verbal Wurzels", I saw them warm up for Aspects one time, they gotta be local wuith a name like that (think someone said Frome) I know Aspects work with a couple welsh kiddies from just over the bridge, I think one was called Junior Disprol
I know there are tons more groups in bristol, and south wales, and i bet if you look you can find some around you
best Uk hiphop news site i've found >>> www.ukhh.com
best place to buy stuff (disorda who runs is a cool guy btw), u can trust this place to buy from >> http://www.suspect-packages.com
an other ok page... http://www.low-life.fsnet.co.uk/index.htm
this bits good >> http://www.low-life.fsnet.co.uk/ukhiphop/artists/index.htm
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Task Force Ft. Pegasus - 'Tru To Tha Art'
isnt pegasus ozzie??
Yeh, he is.
There's a lot of dope hip hop coming out of the UK for sure. Really been getting into it lately. Jehst, Task Force, Braintax, Beef Eaters, Roots manuva, Rodney p and all those cats.
The australian scene is also becoming very dope. Check out these artists:
www.lyricalcommission.com www.hilltophoods.com
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Old groups like gunshot, brotherhood and hi-jack were amazing...
...in those days uk hiphop was right up there with the us..
...its is more real...many ghettos here with guns n drugs n gangs running tings but uk has that other flavour to it as well...
...racism in a realist way, politics, corruption commercialisation etc etc...
...check out brotherhood - elementals one of the best albums for lyrical content around...the sound is very different...very very dark
um adam...a lot of people in the uk around these times were jamaican..most of my "crew" i grew up with were 1st gen jamaican or their fathers were ...thats why a lot have that accent...
in london / bristol etc you will find most people of ethnicity are from there.... as they have a brigish nationality on their passport's!!!
It aint about trying to be anything else...
...but saying that i gots a bit of accent when i rap over tunes because that what we grew up with ...ive had love for hiphop and been listening to it for nearly 20 years...i dont think it matters where you are ffom as long as you got love for it and its decent...
...move back to 90/92 one of the best groups around were uk..one of the others were south african...
..so who really gives a flying f**k ?
pZ
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uk hiphop fucking heavy, i seen blak twang live 3 times now, rodney p, skinny man, mark b n blade n few others too. ppl shudn't underestimate that stuff. uk seems to do it real big in japan, i mean who heard of funky dl? not many n he outsells jay z over there! we getting closer to bringing out the scene with 1xtra n that i just with they'd put it on fm they don't need the whole 97 to 100 for radio1. and mtvbase shud spread the love too. when fusion n tee max were on there thye'd do their bit but they got fired for not being comercial enough. and what happened to the uk hiphop hour that always used to be on westwood on a friday even if it was 1am - 2am it was better than nuthin i keep getting a blank when i think of the dj's name (i keep coming up with cypher sounds lol)
the french government sponsered their hiphop scene which helped it alot, but unfortunatly that would never happen over here.
seer i dunno if i told u this b4 but one of my ex's saw aspects in southhampton a few months back and now she is a huge fan, its when ppl see the artists live i think its when they really get to appreciate how talented they r.
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Definitely lots of talent in the UK, and we survive most of the commercial bullshit.
One artist you should definitely check out is Cappo from Nottingham. His album "Spaz The World" is really dope, the production is amazing, and he's a pretty nice MC, one of my favourite albums this year actually.
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Definitely lots of talent in the UK, and we survive most of the commercial bullshit.
One artist you should definitely check out is Cappo from Nottingham. His album "Spaz The World" is really dope, the production is amazing, and he's a pretty nice MC, one of my favourite albums this year actually.
cool i'mma check that out.
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America Provided The Atmosphere
A copy will never be as good as the original :)
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Oh, and I will admit the greatest Band in the world is from England. LOL Also, the greatest Band that ever was was from England. So I'm not hating England.
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i think the underground UK hip-hop might be on the same level as the US..
but i think commercial UK-hip-hop is pretty terrible.. anyone agrees with me on that? ???
i dont like that "2-step" stuff :P
spice girls had some nice g-funk beats tho ;D
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spice girls had some nice g-funk beats tho ;D
LMAO
I still have the first 2 albums from the Spice Girls and their Step To Me single :P
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i think the underground UK hip-hop might be on the same level as the US..
but i think commercial UK-hip-hop is pretty terrible.. anyone agrees with me on that? ???
i dont like that "2-step" stuff :P
spice girls had some nice g-funk beats tho ;D
2 step = garage not hiphop
Posted by: Buddy Holly Posted on: Today at 03:31:32pm
America Provided The Atmosphere
A copy will never be as good as the original
bullshit yet another ignorant comment from trauma
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nah its not ignorant, its true.. if you take it in context.
UK rappers trying to sound/look american, talking about american topics, blingin it up etc = WACK
Uk rappers rapping about UK subjects in their own style, however they feel = REAL
now real might = dope sometimes too ;)
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i took it in the context he said, nothin can be as good as or better than american hiphop because it was started there.
lets put it in another context like the car industry japan didn't start it but when they came into it they shit all over every other country in build quality and production techniques.
but i do agree uk hiphop tyrna be american is crappy
true uk hiphop is just as good as american like with everything ur gonna have good and bad rappers on both sides of the atlantic just like u get good and bad cars. ya dig?
uk hiphop brings another flavour to it where british ppl can relate to the subjects and slang more, which is why it may not appeal to americans so much. but that doesn't mean its inferior or anything its just different.
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yeah i agree witcha..
its kinda like the east/west thing.. why the hell cant the the west, or south for that matter be allowed to dominate?
"we started it" .. reminds me of "you started it".. on some cry baby kid shit...
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"we started it" .. reminds me of "you started it".. on some cry baby kid shit...
Just like what Pac said
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*Sigh
Like O said, if they're just copying the american style, how will they ever be dope? LOL good god, stop reading so deep into it.
If they came out with their own thing, it's all good. Don't the germans have some hardcore rock rap hybrid going? All I'm saying is be original and true to what you actually are. America Invented Hip Hop, but maybe England will invent the next genre. The UK dance scene is much more advanced then the American dance scene, for instance.
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Ya right on the dance thing.. America and Canada seem to be just getting into the large 'raves' and the jungle scene exported from the UK. even coining a new name for them over there "Part-E's"
Never heard extasy mentioned as being in the US much until a few years ago.. but we have had all the probs with that shit over 10 years ago... dont think its quite so underground over there, its started off at a 'managed' level.. whereas over here people used to do shit like congregate in disused airfields or hire a village hall for a 'family function' (to get the keys) and have 1000s people turn up.. mad old days :) a village hall near here got stripped bare, they even took the radiators! lol