West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Lincoln on October 12, 2003, 08:29:22 PM
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I used to think this cat was just wack, then I realized the reason I wasn't diggin him was because of the wierd-ass fans & the fact he's overrated as fuck. I mainly based the music on All Eyez as well, which I think is a weak album. I think he's overrated & all but I stil think he's a dope artist. I'm really into 2Pacalypse Now & Makaveli. Plus the new joint Runnin is crazy as hell. Anyone feel me when the dickriders ruin an artist?
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I love Tupac's new record.
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Anyone feel me when the dickriders ruin an artist?
no offense homie, but i think thats why so many people are making fun of paris right now
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Anyone feel me when the dickriders ruin an artist?
no offense homie, but i think thats why so many people are making fun of paris right now
I'm far from a Paris dickrider. Peep my review of Unleashed. If he drops something wack I'll admit it.
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nah im not saying u a paris dickrider, but i see you dissing so many other rappers, yet when people make fun of paris u say so much shit to them about how they shouldnt be making fun of him.
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This man was 10 when 'Pac died. You were too young to get the full affect of 'Pac when he was alive. Lets just say an alive 'Pac was just outright the greatest artist I ever had the plessure of hearing, wither it be interviews, new music, new sounds that he released like his Thug Life sound, or his more darker Me Against The Would Sound, or his depressing Makaveli sound. To hear 2Pac alive, and to hear him next to all the other artist that were out at the time was to know that 2Pac was always different, and always ahead of his time. I get annoyed with the dickriders too, because they never do the man justice. But 'Pac was called the GOAT for a reason, and all those people ride his dick for a reason. I don't see the same fan base for wack rappers, like a lot of wack hip-hop I hear in the mid-west, or even rappers of the past. 'Pac is the most iconic rapper for a reason.
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nah im not saying u a paris dickrider, but i see you dissing so many other rappers, yet when people make fun of paris u say so much shit to them about how they shouldnt be making fun of him.
I guess. I always try to back up every post I make with a valid point. People hate on Paris because of the title of his new album, what the fuck is that about? When I diss other rappers I try to give reasons. Not just that, but I am open minded. I listen to all new joints from everyone, including 50 Cent which may be a surprise to most of you. Despite how much I hate an artist they always deserve a chance.
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This man was 10 when 'Pac died. You were too young to get the full affect of 'Pac when he was alive. Lets just say an alive 'Pac was just outright the greatest artist I ever had the plessure of hearing, wither it be interviews, new music, new sounds that he released like his Thug Life sound, or his more darker Me Against The Would Sound, or his depressing Makaveli sound. To hear 2Pac alive, and to hear him next to all the other artist that were out at the time was to know that 2Pac was always different, and always ahead of his time. I get annoyed with the dickriders too, because they never do the man justice. But 'Pac was called the GOAT for a reason, and all those people ride his dick for a reason. I don't see the same fan base for wack rappers, like a lot of wack hip-hop I hear in the mid-west, or even rappers of the past. 'Pac is the most iconic rapper for a reason.
hey man i was 11 and that shit hit me...pac had an effect on everyone...as far as what lincoln said...i always loved pac but i will agree that in my opinion all eyez on me was a weak album...it was more made strictly for the radio...it had some hot joints on it but it doesnt compare to makaveli or me against the world.
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I dunno, I've always been cautious about Pac. I sense hypocricy in myself a lot, and I did the same exact thing with my favorite bands (The Beatles, Oasis, Michael Jackson, The Doors).... but I'll still say it; I hate it when people get so involved in the music when they think it's something more than music. I used to get all caught up in exactly what the lyrics to this beatles song meant, and how it affected the world, blah blah blah, but the truth is it's just music. I'm starting to get more cynical, and I'm tired of musicians who are all caught up in 'trying to make a difference' with their music. That's why I don't really like Pac. He was extremely extremely talented, but I don't get into him much because he took himself so seriously. I'm not saying anything's wrong with that, it's just not my cup of tea anymore. I'd rather listen to music that has a more happy-go-lucky vibe to it now.
My favorite Tupac tracks, though, in fairness, are "Keep your head up" and "Unconditional Love".
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I dunno, I've always been cautious about Pac. I sense hypocricy in myself a lot, and I did the same exact thing with my favorite bands (The Beatles, Oasis, Michael Jackson, The Doors).... but I'll still say it; I hate it when people get so involved in the music when they think it's something more than music. I used to get all caught up in exactly what the lyrics to this beatles song meant, and how it affected the world, blah blah blah, but the truth is it's just music. I'm starting to get more cynical, and I'm tired of musicians who are all caught up in 'trying to make a difference' with their music. That's why I don't really like Pac. He was extremely extremely talented, but I don't get into him much because he took himself so seriously. I'm not saying anything's wrong with that, it's just not my cup of tea anymore. I'd rather listen to music that has a more happy-go-lucky vibe to it now.
My favorite Tupac tracks, though, in fairness, are "Keep your head up" and "Unconditional Love".
while i agree with you to a point there is music that can have affects on people...havent you ever heard a song and it just changed your day entirely...whether it made it better or worse...i think it does have an affect.
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^ Of course, that's what I said, music does affect people, but I think we make music out to be more than it is, we see things in it that just aren't there. I see beauty in everything, but I feel silly about it afterwards, I'm just saying we shouldn't put people like Pac up on pedastals, and think they're music is so inspiring, and all this, it's just me though, i'm growing tired of 'deep' music.
I saw a documentary on John Lennon once, and some guy jumped the fence @ his house and was camping out on his estate. John had the guy brought to him, and asked him what was up, and the guy said that John's music had totally changed his life, and that he was such an inspiration to him, and he had really helped him through tough times, and that he was incredibly indebted to him.
John told him, "Man, I've never even MET you." and went on to say that the only reason he wrote music was for himself, or for his wife, at best, and that he didn't mean anything really deep by it, it was just a song, he said if he woke up and had a good shit, he'd write a song. LOL It was kind of funny, because he's exactly right, we see so much in this stuff, and it's really nothing. Just my opinion, though, like I said, I think pac took himself too seriously for my tastes. Peace~
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This man was 10 when 'Pac died. You were too young to get the full affect of 'Pac when he was alive. Lets just say an alive 'Pac was just outright the greatest artist I ever had the plessure of hearing
word. lincoln was 9 when pac died. i hate the fact that these little punk ass muthafuckas be dissing pac when they ain't even know how much he had an impact on hiphop. To say Pac was overrated is very ignorant. Maybe if you would listen to the mans lyrics you would understand. whats next you gonna say krs and the BBP are overrated as well?
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This man was 10 when 'Pac died. You were too young to get the full affect of 'Pac when he was alive. Lets just say an alive 'Pac was just outright the greatest artist I ever had the plessure of hearing
word. lincoln was 9 when pac died. i hate the fact that these little punk ass muthafuckas be dissing pac when they ain't even know how much he had an impact on hiphop. To say Pac was overrated is very ignorant. Maybe if you would listen to the mans lyrics you would understand. whats next you gonna say krs and the BBP are overrated as well?
Actually I was 10, not 9.
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This man was 10 when 'Pac died. You were too young to get the full affect of 'Pac when he was alive. Lets just say an alive 'Pac was just outright the greatest artist I ever had the plessure of hearing
word. lincoln was 9 when pac died. i hate the fact that these little punk ass muthafuckas be dissing pac when they ain't even know how much he had an impact on hiphop. To say Pac was overrated is very ignorant. Maybe if you would listen to the mans lyrics you would understand. whats next you gonna say krs and the BBP are overrated as well?
pac is overrated...the dude is one of the greats along with biggie, rakim, run dmc, etc....but he is overrated...his lyrics werent anything different than...shit ok anybody out now sucks ass...but his lyrics arent any different than the other stuff out around his time. i love pacs music but he is overrated...as far as krs goes...the dude actually imo gets whats due...he has a lot of fans and he has a lot of people who arent really feelin him...nobody disrespects him (except nelly but hes the britney spears of rap anyway)...i dont really like krs' voice but the dudes a genius. but just cuz someone is young doesnt mean they dont know the affect pac had on rap...i was old enough and i was only 11...i can remember that day very very clearly...that shit was tough on everybody.
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This man was 10 when 'Pac died. You were too young to get the full affect of 'Pac when he was alive. Lets just say an alive 'Pac was just outright the greatest artist I ever had the plessure of hearing
word. lincoln was 9 when pac died. i hate the fact that these little punk ass muthafuckas be dissing pac when they ain't even know how much he had an impact on hiphop. To say Pac was overrated is very ignorant. Maybe if you would listen to the mans lyrics you would understand. whats next you gonna say krs and the BBP are overrated as well?
Actually I was 10, not 9.
what diffrence does it make? u probably never had heard of pac when he died. u didn't listen to his shit as u where coming up thats why u diss him which only someone who is uneducated on hiphop would do.
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This man was 10 when 'Pac died. You were too young to get the full affect of 'Pac when he was alive. Lets just say an alive 'Pac was just outright the greatest artist I ever had the plessure of hearing
word. lincoln was 9 when pac died. i hate the fact that these little punk ass muthafuckas be dissing pac when they ain't even know how much he had an impact on hiphop. To say Pac was overrated is very ignorant. Maybe if you would listen to the mans lyrics you would understand. whats next you gonna say krs and the BBP are overrated as well?
pac is overrated...the dude is one of the greats along with biggie, rakim, run dmc, etc....but he is overrated...his lyrics werent anything different than...shit ok anybody out now sucks ass...but his lyrics arent any different than the other stuff out around his time. i love pacs music but he is overrated...as far as krs goes...the dude actually imo gets whats due...he has a lot of fans and he has a lot of people who arent really feelin him...nobody disrespects him (except nelly but hes the britney spears of rap anyway)...i dont really like krs' voice but the dudes a genius. but just cuz someone is young doesnt mean they dont know the affect pac had on rap...i was old enough and i was only 11...i can remember that day very very clearly...that shit was tough on everybody.
I disagree with everything u said. if u think pac is overrated then biggie, rakim & definatly run dmc are as well.
by the way, why did u pm me earlier today?
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yes i did...and no i didnt say anything about them being overrated...i said pac is on the same level they are...i never said they were the greatest of all time...they arent either. they did a lot for hip hop but they werent the greatest...except maybe run dmc...not the greatest but definetely in the top 10
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yes i did...and no i didnt say anything about them being overrated...i said pac is on the same level they are...i never said they were the greatest of all time...they arent either. they did a lot for hip hop but they werent the greatest...except maybe run dmc...not the greatest but definetely in the top 10
your missing my point. I said if you consider 2pac overrated then biggie, rakim, and run dmc are as well.
why did u pm telling me to get at u on msn.
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yes pac is dope but not the greatest.
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yes i did...and no i didnt say anything about them being overrated...i said pac is on the same level they are...i never said they were the greatest of all time...they arent either. they did a lot for hip hop but they werent the greatest...except maybe run dmc...not the greatest but definetely in the top 10
your missing my point. I said if you consider 2pac overrated then biggie, rakim, and run dmc are as well.
why did u pm telling me to get at u on msn.
dude thats like the stupidest thing i've ever heard...nobody is calling them the greatest of all time...if people were calling them the greatest of all time i would say they are overrated...i put them in the same category cuz they were all on the same level and then i said that they werent the greatest of all time despite what some may say.
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Anyone feel me when the dickriders ruin an artist?
Check Eminem... ;)
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yes i did...and no i didnt say anything about them being overrated...i said pac is on the same level they are...i never said they were the greatest of all time...they arent either. they did a lot for hip hop but they werent the greatest...except maybe run dmc...not the greatest but definetely in the top 10
your missing my point. I said if you consider 2pac overrated then biggie, rakim, and run dmc are as well.
why did u pm telling me to get at u on msn.
dude thats like the stupidest thing i've ever heard...nobody is calling them the greatest of all time...if people were calling them the greatest of all time i would say they are overrated...i put them in the same category cuz they were all on the same level and then i said that they werent the greatest of all time despite what some may say.
u just dont understand homie. you're contradicting yourself. you say you put them in the same category & u say they're all on the same level. If 2pac is in the same group as all of them and your calling him overrated, then the rest of them are overrated as well cuz they're in the same group. Its not that hard to understand.
And quit wit this bullshit saying they aint the greatest of all time. Pac, Biggie, Ra, Krs and Run are the greatest hiphop figures ever till this day.
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Anyone feel me when the dickriders ruin an artist?
Check Eminem... ;)
rofl...agreed...same with g-unit...then theres 50 who ruined himself.
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yes i did...and no i didnt say anything about them being overrated...i said pac is on the same level they are...i never said they were the greatest of all time...they arent either. they did a lot for hip hop but they werent the greatest...except maybe run dmc...not the greatest but definetely in the top 10
your missing my point. I said if you consider 2pac overrated then biggie, rakim, and run dmc are as well.
why did u pm telling me to get at u on msn.
dude thats like the stupidest thing i've ever heard...nobody is calling them the greatest of all time...if people were calling them the greatest of all time i would say they are overrated...i put them in the same category cuz they were all on the same level and then i said that they werent the greatest of all time despite what some may say.
u just dont understand homie. you're contradicting yourself. you say you put them in the same category & u say they're all on the same level. If 2pac is in the same group as all of them and your calling him overrated, then the rest of them are overrated as well cuz they're in the same group. Its not that hard to understand.
And quit wit this bullshit saying they aint the greatest of all time cuz they really are. Pac, Biggie, Ra, Krs and Run are the greatest hiphop figures till this day.
hahaha you totally misunderstood me...i wasnt saying they were all overrated...i was saying that pac is too overrated and that i would rate him down a bit more to where they are at...i wasnt saying they were overrated...if u still dont understand that im sorry but your dumb as fuck...
pac, big, ra, krs, and run the greatest? dont get out of the house much do we now?
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yes i did...and no i didnt say anything about them being overrated...i said pac is on the same level they are...i never said they were the greatest of all time...they arent either. they did a lot for hip hop but they werent the greatest...except maybe run dmc...not the greatest but definetely in the top 10
your missing my point. I said if you consider 2pac overrated then biggie, rakim, and run dmc are as well.
why did u pm telling me to get at u on msn.
dude thats like the stupidest thing i've ever heard...nobody is calling them the greatest of all time...if people were calling them the greatest of all time i would say they are overrated...i put them in the same category cuz they were all on the same level and then i said that they werent the greatest of all time despite what some may say.
u just dont understand homie. you're contradicting yourself. you say you put them in the same category & u say they're all on the same level. If 2pac is in the same group as all of them and your calling him overrated, then the rest of them are overrated as well cuz they're in the same group. Its not that hard to understand.
And quit wit this bullshit saying they aint the greatest of all time cuz they really are. Pac, Biggie, Ra, Krs and Run are the greatest hiphop figures till this day.
hahaha you totally misunderstood me...i wasnt saying they were all overrated...i was saying that pac is too overrated and that i would rate him down a bit more to where they are at...i wasnt saying they were overrated...if u still dont understand that im sorry but your dumb as fuck...
pac, big, ra, krs, and run the greatest? dont get out of the house much do we now?
u really need to start paying more attention. I could tell you dont comprehend things that well. I don't like to repeat myself but fuck you are dumb.
For the last time, I know u weren't saying they were all overrated but u did say they were all on the same level. Therefore if one is overrated then all of them are. Was that too hard to understand? damn i swear we have some idiots on the board..
now ur coming with this shit saying u would rate pac down a bit more to where the others are at. u never said that moron..
and your last comment didn't make sence. "pac, big, ra, krs, and run the greatest? dont get out of the house much do we now?"
YES!!! u dumbass they're the greatest hiphop figures till this day. If you disagree, then you must have just gotten into hiphop. Tell me whos better than that group of emcees i just named? nobody
I dont like to take you too serious being that u have a pic of TQ in your signature and you are also very ignorant when it comes to hiphop and its history.
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nobody is calling them the greatest of all time
LL Cool J did :P
But 2Pac is after Krayzie Bone probably my favorite rapper. Yes, I think the dude got skills and definately lyrically. Like Luke said in this thread that a song by 2Pac can change your day. There are only 3 artists (acts) I have that with: TQ, 2Pac and Krayzie Bone (Bone Thugs).
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yes i did...and no i didnt say anything about them being overrated...i said pac is on the same level they are...i never said they were the greatest of all time...they arent either. they did a lot for hip hop but they werent the greatest...except maybe run dmc...not the greatest but definetely in the top 10
your missing my point. I said if you consider 2pac overrated then biggie, rakim, and run dmc are as well.
why did u pm telling me to get at u on msn.
dude thats like the stupidest thing i've ever heard...nobody is calling them the greatest of all time...if people were calling them the greatest of all time i would say they are overrated...i put them in the same category cuz they were all on the same level and then i said that they werent the greatest of all time despite what some may say.
u just dont understand homie. you're contradicting yourself. you say you put them in the same category & u say they're all on the same level. If 2pac is in the same group as all of them and your calling him overrated, then the rest of them are overrated as well cuz they're in the same group. Its not that hard to understand.
And quit wit this bullshit saying they aint the greatest of all time cuz they really are. Pac, Biggie, Ra, Krs and Run are the greatest hiphop figures till this day.
hahaha you totally misunderstood me...i wasnt saying they were all overrated...i was saying that pac is too overrated and that i would rate him down a bit more to where they are at...i wasnt saying they were overrated...if u still dont understand that im sorry but your dumb as fuck...
pac, big, ra, krs, and run the greatest? dont get out of the house much do we now?
u really need to start paying more attention. I could tell you dont comprehend things that well. I don't like to repeat myself but fuck you are dumb.
For the last time, I know u weren't saying they were all overrated but u did say they were all on the same level. Therefore if one is overrated then all of them are. Was that too hard to understand? damn i swear we have some idiots on the board..
now ur coming with this shit saying u would rate pac down a bit more to where the others are at. u never said that moron..
and your last comment didn't make sence. "pac, big, ra, krs, and run the greatest? dont get out of the house much do we now?"
YES!!! u dumbass they're the greatest hiphop figures till this day. If you disagree, then you must have just gotten into hiphop. Tell me whos better than that group of emcees i just named? nobody
I dont like to take you too serious being that u have a pic of TQ in your signature and you are also very ignorant when it comes to hiphop and its history.
wow taking this a bit personal are we? ok first off dipshit...i can say pac is overrated without saying the others are. if one cookie is burnt in the bunch does that mean the rest are? NO! second of all i've been into hip hop for years now...you're a fucking ignorant homosexual. as far as who's better...look at almost anything underground! all of them are better!!! yes those you named are the greatest hip hop FIGURES but being the greatest figures doesnt make them the greatest of all time. you act like just cuz they were popular during their time they are the greatest...just because someone is popular doesnt mean they are the greatest...if that were true hip hop would be totally fucked right now! by saying "You dont get out of the house much" i was saying that obviously you dont get out of the mainstream bullshit much. as far as your comment about my sig...my opinion is tq has the best voice and i enjoy his music more than anyone elses...thats my opinion...something you obviously dont respect or we wouldnt be having the conversation...if you did you wouldnt've gave a shit when i said that pac was not the greatest of all time. maybe you should learn to respect others opinions more. thats fine if you like pac and say he's the greatest...but in my opinion he's not...so we agree to disagree...now shut the fuck up.
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nobody is calling them the greatest of all time
LL Cool J did :P
But 2Pac is after Krayzie Bone probably my favorite rapper. Yes, I think the dude got skills and definately lyrically. Like Luke said in this thread that a song by 2Pac can change your day. There are only 3 artists (acts) I have that with: TQ, 2Pac and Krayzie Bone (Bone Thugs).
theres a lot of artists that do that for me...but the ones that do it the best are TQ, 2pac, and Nas.
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Hmm... ihavnt really bumped any pac in a while, some of my favs where young niggaz, pour out a little liquor, cant' c me,