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Title: Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: topdogg187 on October 12, 2003, 10:50:32 PM
Don't get me wrong herre cause he ain't my favorite rapper that honour still belongs to snoop, but damn i've been have a rough week and fuck i've been listenin to pac like crazy. He made a song for any mood that you are in whether it be sad, mad, chilled, whatever other mood your in you can always turn and look to pac for a song for that particular emotion. I can truly say he is and most likely will always be the greatest rapper ever, he truly transcended rap music and will never be forgotten because he was not jsut the biggest star in hip-hop, he was bigger than hip-hop. R.I.P. Pac.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Don Breezio on October 12, 2003, 10:55:46 PM
Don't get me wrong herre cause he ain't my favorite rapper that honour still belongs to snoop, but damn i've been have a rough week and fuck i've been listenin to pac like crazy. He made a song for any mood that you are in whether it be sad, mad, chilled, whatever other mood your in you can always turn and look to pac for a song for that particular emotion. I can truly say he is and most likely will always be the greatest rapper ever, he truly transcended rap music and will never be forgotten because he was not jsut the biggest star in hip-hop, he was bigger than hip-hop. R.I.P. Pac.

i agree with you that he made songs for every mood...i've been feelin the same way and pac has been in my cd players more than anything else lately...but i wouldnt say he's the greatest...other artists have done that too...they just dont get credit for it.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Jim Jones on October 12, 2003, 10:59:06 PM
yes he's the greatest.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: West Coast Veteran on October 12, 2003, 11:05:22 PM
He's my favorite.

Greatest depends on what you look for.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: budsmokeronly on October 12, 2003, 11:42:00 PM
I think he is.  but everone has their own opinion and it will be an endless debate.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: mauzip on October 12, 2003, 11:53:57 PM
I think he is.  but everone has their own opinion and it will be an endless debate.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Code Blue on October 12, 2003, 11:58:17 PM
In 1 simple word...yes.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: pappy on October 13, 2003, 12:02:13 AM
c'mon you guys are fuckin morons.  everyone knows the dubcc's own scitt the dip shit is the GOAT
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: js83 on October 13, 2003, 01:52:04 AM
snoop is better then pac? lol. u gotta be kidding. pac is the most consistant rapper out there...always puttin out quality music...while snoop in the other hand is the opposite...thats a fact.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: mauzip on October 13, 2003, 02:00:33 AM
snoop is better then pac? lol. u gotta be kidding. pac is the most consistant rapper out there...always puttin out quality music...while snoop in the other hand is the opposite...thats a fact.

till 2pac's death snoop had always put out quality music
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: js83 on October 13, 2003, 03:23:55 AM
snoop is better then pac? lol. u gotta be kidding. pac is the most consistant rapper out there...always puttin out quality music...while snoop in the other hand is the opposite...thats a fact.

till 2pac's death snoop had always put out quality music

so whats your point?  ???
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: mauzip on October 13, 2003, 03:28:02 AM
snoop is better then pac? lol. u gotta be kidding. pac is the most consistant rapper out there...always puttin out quality music...while snoop in the other hand is the opposite...thats a fact.

till 2pac's death snoop had always put out quality music

so whats your point?  ???

that if 2pac would still be alive, he could have gone the same way snoop dogg went
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Lord Funk on October 13, 2003, 03:38:40 AM
Every album Pac released while alive was four mic solid or better... and I include Makaveli in that. And I agree with what someone else here said in another thread, that to be a Pac fan while he was alive was an amazing experience.

IMO he was an amazing artist. In that respect I understand the arguments for him being the GOAT. As far as being the greatest rapper of all time... umm... nope. Dude was just good on the mic, not outstanding and certainly not legendary. The emotion in his delivery was what made the tracks - take those lyrics and have another MC spit them and they'd be nothing.

Plus the number of albums released after his death have ruined his legacy for me. Honestly, most people outside of hip-hop regard Pac as a joke because he's known as the dead guy who has more posthumous records than he released while he was alive. I sincerely wish they had never out out another record after Makaveli.

But that's another argument... ;) In answer to the question - no, he's not the greatest to me.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: MakaveliRidah on October 13, 2003, 05:18:27 AM
fuk no tupac would of gone the same way as snoop, 2pac was at the peak of his peformance when he released makaveli, he could of released a few more solid albums just as good or better if he was alive today, but it wouldnt of stopped there pac would of been a great actor, we only saw a glimpse of wat he could do, he would of had a mad record label that would of put doggystyle records to shame, n he was even intrested in starting his own presidental campaign....of course he couldnt run for it, but sure would of found someone to run for it and stand up for his beliefs.....and yes to me 2pac is the greatest of all time, his music touches my soul, when u listen to pac u feel so close to him that u feel his presence, he lived the realest live...lyrically mite of not been the best, but wat he had to say was the best and most revelant, he was da realest greatest cat to eva touch the mic
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: mauzip on October 13, 2003, 05:23:18 AM
lyrically mite of not been the best, but wat he had to say was the best and most revelant

right...

Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Nightfall on October 13, 2003, 05:58:36 AM
talken skill? hell naw
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Shark on October 13, 2003, 11:18:15 AM
Every one knows Bg knocc out is the best on the west.....
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on October 13, 2003, 12:35:45 PM
2pac is the greatest yes he changed the game still 7 years on hes still got a influence

great lyrics hard rapping hit em up 2 slow jams dear mama

many subject matteres with his raps



and his greatest skill his flow which was just a killer flow


rip 2 the goat
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Diabolical on October 13, 2003, 01:25:46 PM
Why Do Yall Think The "New" Songs Are Being Released Now Rather Than Before He Died?

Because He Probably Didn't Think The Were Good Enough!
So Who Decides To Put Them Out?

Suge-Only In It For The Money
Afeni-Probably Not A Hip Hop Fan
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Nightfall on October 13, 2003, 01:34:09 PM
heres my short and simple awnser:

no
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: E. J. Rizo on October 13, 2003, 02:17:38 PM
heres my short and simple awnser:

no
here is my short and simple answer


yes
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: R-Tistic on October 13, 2003, 02:25:32 PM
Another endless debate thas been goin on for years......

In my opinion he is the best. But I'll say that more people consider him being the best than any other rapper is considered as bein the best, so that has to say somethin. When people say he wasn't a good lyricist, how??? Just because he didn't use complex rhyme structures and multis? Whoever u say is better than Pac for those reasons, isn't nearly as good as Pac in other categories, so the debate will continue forever and ever and nobody will ever say who the greatest is unless somebody comes in the future who is better in EVERY way than Pac.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on October 13, 2003, 04:27:31 PM
I think he is.  but everone has their own opinion and it will be an endless debate.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Black_Smoke on October 13, 2003, 05:33:37 PM
2pac is deff the greatest ever imo
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: pastybrother on October 13, 2003, 07:13:33 PM
not IMO
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Casper on October 13, 2003, 10:09:45 PM
c'mon you guys are fuckin morons.  everyone knows the dubcc's own scitt the dip shit is the GOAT

watch out sccits iz gonna be all up in dat azz!!!!

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Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: SGV on October 13, 2003, 10:28:16 PM
I don't think so. Had Pac not died, he would've never got all these props. 50% of Pac's fans and accolades came after death.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: budsmokeronly on October 13, 2003, 10:59:01 PM
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I don't think so. Had Pac not died, he would've never got all these props. 50% of Pac's fans and accolades came after death.

Not necesarily so.  I have been a Pac fan since 93 when I heard I get around, and then in 95 I bought Me against the World.  Just because he died I am sure there are some people who jump on his nuts because he was so popular at the time.  Such as a trendy thing to do in HS would be listen to Pac.  But I think most of the Pac fans are true fans of his music, even if they never were into his music before he died.  Think of how many legends in music that people never heard when the artist was alive.  Elvis, Beatles, Bob Marley, Eazy-E, Notorious BIG, Kurt Cobain.  Bob Marley died in like 1984, I was only 4 years old.  I never even really started listening to him until like 1999, and now I consider, like many, him the greatest reggae artist ever.  I never liked Biggy or Eazy when they were alive, but now I realize what dope music they made.
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Don Breezio on October 13, 2003, 11:12:30 PM
I don't think so. Had Pac not died, he would've never got all these props. 50% of Pac's fans and accolades came after death.

exactly my feelings
Title: Re:Is 2pac the Greatest Ever?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on October 13, 2003, 11:13:38 PM

It's all matter of opinion...
But being a Pac listener since "Same song"..
(Digital Underground was my shitt round 91-92)
I can honestly say...
2Pac's music has stuck with me & will be my music for the rest of my life.
I'm 27, I've heard many if not all come & go...
Timeless is timeless...

Hatesrats 2oooTre