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Title: Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: DOC. da G.P.T...[METS][REX/MaB] on May 24, 2002, 01:52:56 AM
I see enough people pickin' Bruce Lee over Jet Li and see him as legend, just becuase he was the first one bringin' kung fu to Hollywood >:(.  he got skills i'm not sayin' he ain't shit but i'm sayin' Jet Li's skill's are way better.(SHODOWKICKS knows what i'm sayin').  Jet li was the champion in the kung fu compititions in china for many years.  he studies true shoalin kung fu as a monk, when Bruce Lee started his career as a dancer and mixed kung fu with dancing (that's why his shit was neat)...all i'm sayin' is that jet li is more real then bruce lee and if there ws a fight between bruce lee and jet lee.....JET LI 'd BEAT BRUCE LEE SENSELESS...(i know half of you catz gonna disagree with this statement)
this is like bringing a hollywood gangsta and comparin' to an OG.....

anyways.....i know there's gonna be a lot of arguments about this but post your shit n tell me what do you think....
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Post by: bez on May 24, 2002, 02:03:11 AM
bruce defo...Hes a legend
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Post by: Maestro Minded on May 24, 2002, 02:33:04 AM
i agree 100% with what docky said...

buce lee is the first mainstream marshal artist... but jet li have more knowledge compared to bruce.... this doesnt mean that bruce is wack... i know that bruce had some really dope skillz in speedness for exxample, he could make 6 correct punches / sec, he could cut a paper in 2 clices by punching it..... but he lacked in fexibility witch is maby the most important shing in kung fu.. he could neither make powerfull kicks in the iar, nor kick opponent 1 in the air, twist his body (still in the air) and kick the second guy, doing a 180 degrees spin-move... or similar thing... flexibilitys like that are shaolin-movies, and bruce lee never learned shaolin, but jet li did, jet li won china's national marshal arts contest 5 years in a row.. bein the first guy in china's entire history do accomplish that..
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Post by: ExZit on May 24, 2002, 02:54:12 AM
bruce lee 4 fo sho!!

even jackie chan is better than jet li!!!!! ;D
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Post by: Don Seer on May 24, 2002, 03:27:21 AM
^--- i'm with that 100%

Docky you've got your facts about  Bruce Lee wrong. You've described Jackie Chan's background. Jackie would get whooped by any of them.

Bruce Lee was great because he took the best elements of other arts like Kung Fu, and Judo (which I used to be a green belt at btw) including Western Boxing and created his own philosophy and art. I suggest you read 'the tao of jeet kune do'.
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Post by: Maestro Minded on May 24, 2002, 03:49:59 AM
Bruce Lee's father was one of China's biggest swordsmen ever, he had skillz nobody even could come near, he killed many enemies during his lifetime before he lost his fist battle and died. His skillz was recognized by enemies and friends...

Bruce Lee's father had like i said many enemies, and even when he died, his enemies still hated him, and insted aimed his harted torward Bruce Lee... So Bruce's mother felt forced to send Bruce To Usa..Bruce wanted to live up to his fathers status, but he wasnt one of china's best... not even near, there were no way he could get his fathers status with the skillz he had... But he finally found a way to get the same status he's father had, he would earn that status by going to Hollywood. Yall know the rest of the story...


conclusion....

1.
Bruce Lee was never considered as of of the best by the chineese, so why does americans/europeans think otherwise, afterall, the chinese know best who's the goat and who's not....

2. Jet Li have earned his status as of the best in kung fu in modern time (80-90's) direclty by the chisese people, he've won chinass national marshal arts torunament 5 years in a row giving him the right to claim bein the best ( even though he never did that) ...he's the best in modern time.. but americans/europeans think otherwise....

why??

because jet li havent been on tv as much as bruce lee.... because jet li doesnt have the same finishing-kick in everymovie ...(look at all the computer games) .. becuz jet li doesnt says "wataah" or whathever when he releases a really heavy punch / kick....

its all about commercial.... if you want, i can upload a small clip from a movie and you will tell me if you have seen bruce do tighter things..
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Post by: Maestro Minded on May 24, 2002, 04:10:23 AM
btw

i early said bruce was champion in the "National Martial Competition" 5 years in a row, first gold when he only was 11 years old... .. the tournament have no age max-level... Jet Li defeated 20-40 years contendres when he was eleven... thats sum shit...


Overseer:

every marshal arts student delelop his own style after passing the black belt graduation.... Jet Li mixed 4-5 diffrent styles of Shaolin Kung Fu (inclusive shadow boxing)  with modern bixing, judo and karate...

Jet Kune Do is only famous, because Bruce could speak about it on television and reach to alotta people... not many people have followed Jet Kune Do, as matter a fact, that art is almost forgotten by now... witch means that it really wasnt that great
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Post by: HHH on May 24, 2002, 07:09:05 AM
OL' BRUCEY FOR SURE ;D JACKIE CHANS GOOD TOO !!
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Post by: elneckio on May 24, 2002, 07:10:56 AM
The only thing I've seen of Jet Li is 'The One' which used so many special effects I don't thing its fair to judge his skills on that alone.  I've seen a fair bit of Bruce though and he kicks butt :)  So whats the best Jet film to watch then ?
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Post by: Tecknine on May 24, 2002, 08:16:28 AM
bruce lee
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Post by: Maestro Minded on May 24, 2002, 08:49:52 AM
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The only thing I've seen of Jet Li is 'The One' which used so many special effects I don't thing its fair to judge his skills on that alone.  I've seen a fair bit of Bruce though and he kicks butt :)  So whats the best Jet film to watch then ?


Fist Of Legend
Once Upon A Time In China 1
Once Upon A Time In China 2
Once Upon A Time In China 3


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Post by: .:R-E-L:. on May 24, 2002, 08:57:10 AM
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OL' BRUCEY FOR SURE ;D JACKIE CHANS GOOD TOO !!

Title: Re: Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: DOC. da G.P.T...[METS][REX/MaB] on May 24, 2002, 10:06:56 AM
ShadowKick is exactly right.......bruce lee is commercialized ....that's why people think he's a legend....just like Jakie chen .... everyone thinks he's all good n shit because he has many movies and he's a joker....but there are way more better people than him...(but i still got love for Jackie Chen) ;D ....

btw for the fool that said even Jakie Chen is better than jet li...... not talkin' is better than not thinkin' and talkin'....
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Post by: King Tech Quadafi on May 24, 2002, 10:13:08 AM
^^^LOL
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Post by: Don Seer on May 24, 2002, 10:27:15 AM
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btw for the fool that said even Jakie Chen is better than jet li...... not talkin' is better than not thinkin' and talkin'....


make that fools.  :P

jackie may be an actor... because outside the movie it doesnt matter who knows what. jackie makes funny and entertaining films.. love his shit.
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Post by: ROCCY on May 24, 2002, 04:22:18 PM
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make that fools.  :P

jackie may be an actor... because outside the movie it doesnt matter who knows what. jackie makes funny and entertaining films.. love his shit.


Exactly..Jackie is an entertainer hes pretty hilarious...but Bruce lee is a legend..so Im gonna go with bruce..
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Post by: Smooth on May 24, 2002, 08:17:28 PM
Bruce Lee fo sure!
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Post by: BossPlaya on May 25, 2002, 10:06:50 AM
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bruce lee

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Post by: mrtonguetwista on July 26, 2003, 08:40:07 PM
Bruce Lee, then I choose Chuck Norris :D
Title: Re: Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: js83 on July 26, 2003, 11:09:52 PM
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The only thing I've seen of Jet Li is 'The One' which used so many special effects I don't thing its fair to judge his skills on that alone.  I've seen a fair bit of Bruce though and he kicks butt :)  So whats the best Jet film to watch then ?

Fist Of Legend




every jet li fan should watch this movie...its the best movie ever. he barely uses wires in this one...its all real fights...this one shows jet's skills...
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Post by: Black_Smoke on July 27, 2003, 01:52:50 AM
Bruce Lee

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Post by: Adam Donnelly on July 27, 2003, 02:09:23 AM
This aint even a Q
Bruce Lee all day
What are U crazy man
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Post by: 7even on July 27, 2003, 05:06:47 AM
lol I fuckin hope this Thread is meant to be funny or something.
Title: Re:Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: Maestro Minded on July 27, 2003, 05:23:47 AM
Jet Li was crowned as the leading martial artist in china 5 years in a row...

Bruce Lee wasnt
Title: Re:Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: Adam Donnelly on July 27, 2003, 06:42:11 AM
Jet Li was crowned as the leading martial artist in china 5 years in a row...

Bruce Lee wasnt

Did they have that Bull shit When Bruce was alive
NO
Title: Re:Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: Hydro on July 27, 2003, 04:55:14 PM
LOL, i actually had this conversation with a few chinese students in my class at college. They said that Jet Li is great but Bruce Lee is the best. They said that back in China, Bruce Lee is still considered the greatest.
Title: Re:Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: Maestro Minded on July 27, 2003, 04:56:58 PM
Jet Li was crowned as the leading martial artist in china 5 years in a row...

Bruce Lee wasnt

Did they have that Bull shit When Bruce was alive
NO

yes they did
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Post by: Hittman2001 on July 27, 2003, 05:10:40 PM
I'd have to go with Bruce Lee
Title: Re:Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: Noon Bank$ on July 27, 2003, 10:23:19 PM
Neither.


Pamela Lee.  :D
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Post by: .:TimeLock:. on July 28, 2003, 03:44:05 AM
i think if bruce was still alive and his son they would be both dope as fuck right  now like they would have got even better...and jet li and bruce would be a tight fight to see in real life i can't say who would win hard to say
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Post by: OpTiCaL on July 28, 2003, 04:17:36 AM
No question...



Bruce


Bruce gave more to the community as a director / producer / scriptwriter

he dared where others didnt, and after a few years won in the way he wanted his films to be done, released and the perception of the individuals in the films.

he concieved a master "style" of kung fu....where all styles were mixed into a great melting pot of knowledge and action to create a style with no style...


you dont see that too often, if he was a scientist no doubt he would have been awarded a nobel prize by now for his achievements...

...he took martial arts in a sense to another country, made it popular and tought people why otherwise wouldnt have ever known the fulfillment spiritually and physically that they can bring.

He even had dealth threats because of this, because he was not supposed to teach the way outside of chinese culture.

and damn even after seriously injuring his back where doctors said that he could never practise again he came back...came back fighting...on the best form ever.

btw agree with you mr tonguetwista... chuck was excellent something like 10 years running karate champion...bruce respected him greatly as a fighter and as a person - his behaviour,knowledge,dedication and spirit....


...i was so amazed as a lilttle kd when i first saw one of my bball heroes in a bruce lee film...kareem abdul jabbar....bloody hell the nba ended up insuring his legs for millions for his role in that film lol!
Title: Re: Bruce Lee or Jet li ???
Post by: T-Dogg on July 28, 2003, 06:52:56 AM
Once Upon A Time In China 1
Once Upon A Time In China 2
Once Upon A Time In China 3

Man those are full of wire tricks. You can't tell who's better based on Once Upon a Time In China...

But I gotta say Bruce Lee. Think about this - if Bruce Lee hadn't been what he was in his time, would Jet Li have the kind of career he has today? Bruce wasn't just the first to bring martial arts to Hollywood - he was so good that he made martial arts stick in Hollywood.
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Post by: Maestro Minded on July 28, 2003, 02:55:42 PM
Once Upon A Time In China 1
Once Upon A Time In China 2
Once Upon A Time In China 3

Man those are full of wire tricks. You can't tell who's better based on Once Upon a Time In China...

But I gotta say Bruce Lee. Think about this - if Bruce Lee hadn't been what he was in his time, would Jet Li have the kind of career he has today? Bruce wasn't just the first to bring martial arts to Hollywood - he was so good that he made martial arts stick in Hollywood.

its obvious which parts had tricks and which parts didnt
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Post by: js83 on July 29, 2003, 01:47:38 AM
LOL, i actually had this conversation with a few chinese students in my class at college. They said that Jet Li is great but Bruce Lee is the best. They said that back in China, Bruce Lee is still considered the greatest.

I highly doubt that in china, bruce lee is still considered to be the grestest fighter ever...thats bullshit...now, bruce is probably one of the best fighters ever...but i don't think he could fuck with those shaolin monks...i saw some video tapes of em..and they are fucking crazy...
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Post by: -KuNiVaA- on July 29, 2003, 11:33:25 AM
Somebody lock this, Bruce Lee is the one and only greatest fighter, no doubt..
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Post by: Hatesrats™ on July 29, 2003, 11:36:12 AM

No question
Or Comparisson
Bruce Lee...

Hatesrats 2oooTre
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on July 29, 2003, 04:14:48 PM
lol this is like micheal jackson or jus timberlake.......man i aint even gonna go into these "facts"...............................bruce lee by fuck knows how far.............like haterats sed, no comparison no question,

Bruce MuThAfUcKiN lee

im out
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Post by: HHH on July 30, 2003, 01:59:04 AM
bruce lee 4 fo sho!!

even jackie chan is better than jet li!!!!! ;D

bruce  8)