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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Que (signing off) on October 19, 2003, 01:07:17 PM
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Dead Man Walking was actually a good CD...
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2pac - Nu-Mixx Klazzicz
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Dead Man Walking was actually a good CD...
agreed i enjoyed it...Nu Mixx Klazzics was horrible
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chronic 2000.
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Michel'le--Hung Jury :-\
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Why are "Too Gangsta For Radio" and the Dysfunktional Family OST listed?
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Dysfunktional Family is actually good.
"Im Back" has a sick beat, i don't care what any fucker says otherwise.
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Listened to TG4R a few weeks back... sounded worse than ever before. At least Nu Mixxes has Pac's charisma and raps to carry it.
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TG4R had some real tight tracks, but the rest was wackness. So I say Nu Mixx Klazzics
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Nu Mixx Classics takes the cake, but i think that Dogg Pound 2002 was also extremely dissapointing.
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Dysfunktional Family is actually good.
"Im Back" has a sick beat, i don't care what any fucker says otherwise.
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Christmas on Death Row
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but i think that Dogg Pound 2002 was also extremely dissapointing.
What? Dogg Pound 2002 was great IMO. Probably he best Death Row release in the post [Pac, Snoop, and Dre] era.
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all eyes on me
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all eyes on me
surprisingly you arent the only one to feel that way...while i may not think its necessarily the worst...its probably the 2nd or 3rd biggest bullshit album (imo) ever released on deathrow...sadly people praise it like its the epitamy of hip hop
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You don't have to like "All Eyez On Me", but you have to be stupid to say it's the worst album Tha Row ever released.
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You don't have to like "All Eyez On Me", but you have to be stupid to say it's the worst album Tha Row ever released.
why...because its the deepest album of all time, because it has the best production, because its pacs best work? YEAH OR NOT! dude...its easily the worst pac cd ever made...90% of the tracks were made specifically for the radio...the album was bullshit...i enjoyed it...but it was bullshit.
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all eyes on me
surprisingly you arent the only one to feel that way...while i may not think its necessarily the worst...its probably the 2nd or 3rd biggest bullshit album (imo) ever released on deathrow...sadly people praise it like its the epitamy of hip hop
Agreed with that. Everyone praises it like mad but its one weak-ass album.
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I say Nu mixx classics.
You guys are killing me with this crap about all eyez on me. There are a lot of classic tracks on that album, and I have and still bump the shit out of it. Great beats, great raps, great guests. How can you even say its a bad album.
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I say Nu mixx classics.
You guys are killing me with this crap about all eyez on me. There are a lot of classic tracks on that album, and I have and still bump the shit out of it. Great beats, great raps, great guests. How can you even say its a bad album.
I disagree. The only songs which I would call classic on that album are Can't C Me, Ain't Hard 2 Find & Got My Mind Made Up. There's a few other songs I don't mind.
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I say Nu mixx classics.
You guys are killing me with this crap about all eyez on me. There are a lot of classic tracks on that album, and I have and still bump the shit out of it. Great beats, great raps, great guests. How can you even say its a bad album.
I disagree. The only songs which I would call classic on that album are Can't C Me, Ain't Hard 2 Find & Got My Mind Made Up. There's a few other songs I don't mind.
I have to add into that list Ambitionz Az A Ridah, Picture Me Rollin' & Life Goes On...other than that its all just shit made for bumpin...nothing on that cd other than those had any value to it other than being radio-friendly tracks.
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I don't know what y'all are talkin' about with that "made for radio" shit. Just cuz there was a grip of singles from this album doesn't necessarily mean they were specifically made for the radio. It could mean that the album was so damn good that it had a lot of great tracs that people wanted to hear again and again. And besides, any artist that's a smart businessman will make they album for the radio, because unfortunately that's he only real way to blow up/sell out.
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I don't know what y'all are talkin' about with that "made for radio" shit. Just cuz there was a grip of singles from this album doesn't necessarily mean they were specifically made for the radio. It could mean that the album was so damn good that it had a lot of great tracs that people wanted to hear again and again. And besides, any artist that's a smart businessman will make they album for the radio, because unfortunately that's he only real way to blow up/sell out.
well you said exactly waht i was thinking...thats the only real way to sell out ;)
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2Pac was not a sell out. His music was from the heart and soul and you could tell. He was just able to make platinum hits that hella peeps like. Hella deathrow songs used to be played on the radio/tv back in the day. Doggystyle has hella radio/tv friendly songs but that was not a sell out album. Nothing but a G-Thang is a huge radio/friendly hit and is a excellent classic song. Back in the days (the 90's) westcoast rap was the most popular rap, so hella songs could be on the radio. Nowadays though westcoast rap is not very popular at all. The music on the radio nowadays is really shitty 95% of the time. So I would agree that if now a artist from the westcoast had an album with 6-8 huge radio hits I am pretty sure I wouldn't like it much. And the only one who could make an album like that nowadays that I think I would really like is Dre with detox.
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2Pac was not a sell out. His music was from the heart and soul and you could tell. He was just able to make platinum hits that hella peeps like. Hella deathrow songs used to be played on the radio/tv back in the day. Doggystyle has hella radio/tv friendly songs but that was not a sell out album. Nothing but a G-Thang is a huge radio/friendly hit and is a excellent classic song. Back in the days (the 90's) westcoast rap was the most popular rap, so hella songs could be on the radio. Nowadays though westcoast rap is not very popular at all. The music on the radio nowadays is really shitty 95% of the time. So I would agree that if now a artist from the westcoast had an album with 6-8 huge radio hits I am pretty sure I wouldn't like it much. And the only one who could make an album like that nowadays that I think I would really like is Dre with detox.
doggystyle is from a different era in hip hop than all eyes on me was...while its only a 3 year diff. the styles changed...pac is not a sellout but you know if he had his way all eyes on me would'ntve sounded the way it did...that was a stunt that deathrow wanted him to do to sell more records...it happens all the time...just like the new song by TQ "KeepItOnTheLow"...not his style and he said flat out that cash money wanted him to do that song and he doesnt like that song. pac was deeper than all eyes on me...he had so much more talent than that album.
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2pac - Nu-Mixx Klazzicz
i agree...wtf were they thinkin when they made this album? fucking retards.
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no question...
Nu-Mixx Klazzics
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xmas on death row
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I can't believe what I'm reading about All Eyez On Me... that album is fucking great!
And I think Nu Mixx Klazzics is the worst Death Row album (that I heard). Btw, how can somebody call Christmas On Death Row a bad album??
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how can somebody call Christmas On Death Row a bad album??
That's what I was thinking. Looking forward to bumping that in the coming months. The Nate Dogg and Dogg Pound tracks are :o, and then there's my personal favourite, 'Glorious Day'. Great album.
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Breezio and Lincoln- I too think that pac had more lyrical talent than he showed on AEOM, and i think the subject matter of many songs was disappointing. However, you fools are both trippin'.lol You say yourself it "only" had this or that many classic songs, and the rest were for the radio. Big fucking deal, at least it had some classic songs damnit! And besides, although my three favourite rappers are Masta Ace, Ras KAss and Nas, i will be the first to admit that a song made for the radio can still be classic! Anyone whos says otherwise is trying to be too underground in my opinion. It is great to admire and love the work of artists like Dead Prez, Paris, etc, and it is nice to see someone supporting these artists. HOwever, some people (mainly LINCOLN) really need to stop it because they are making themselves look foolish.
Cuz if you really think AEOM is the worst album ever released from DEATH ROW over TG4R, Chronic 2000, Hung Jury, or Nu Mixx CLassics, then it is OBVIOUS you fools are trying to be underground. I was on an underground only tip for a couple years, where if the lyrics werent amazing i labeled it as wack, but then i sat back and slapped myself because i realized different artists bring different styles to the game. WHen done right, like Cali Love, I aint mad at Ya, How DO u Want it, etc, radio hits can be just as good or better than a paris song. peace
oh ya, i am not trying to be an asshole or anything, i just think statements like "all eyse on me may be the worst album ever put out by death row" are full of hate and stupidity
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I can't believe what I'm reading about All Eyez On Me..
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If Pac didn't die, All Eyez On Me would've been just another double LP with lots of filler.
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Well i disagree with the "filler" statement, i do acknowledge the cd was a disappointment for many of Pac's fans who were expecting something a little more thoughtful and sincere.
However, if Pac never died, the cd woulda have sold just as much with songs like Cali Love, How DO u Want It, i Aint mad at ya, all about u, U cant c me......all of which were huge singles or coulda been HUGE (cant c me and all about U)!
I have a feeling alot of you dissing AEOM were about 10 or 12 when Pac dropped this cd, and therefore have no clue about the cd and just think it is fashionable to dis PAc nowadays because of all the internet pAc groupies. Give the guy credit, this cd is a COMMERCIAL achievement, almost every song coulda been a hit, and as far as that only DOggystyle is fucking with this cd. peace
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Well i disagree with the "filler" statement, i do acknowledge the cd was a disappointment for many of Pac's fans who were expecting something a little more thoughtful and sincere.
However, if Pac never died, the cd woulda have sold just as much with songs like Cali Love, How DO u Want It, i Aint mad at ya, all about u, U cant c me......all of which were huge singles or coulda been HUGE (cant c me and all about U)!
I have a feeling alot of you dissing AEOM were about 10 or 12 when Pac dropped this cd, and therefore have no clue about the cd and just think it is fashionable to dis PAc nowadays because of all the internet pAc groupies. Give the guy credit, this cd is a COMMERCIAL achievement, almost every song coulda been a hit, and as far as that only DOggystyle is fucking with this cd. peace
LOL @ not having a clue about the cd. Funny, I'm only 19, but I've been into Hip Hop since the at least 1991. I think I know what I'm talking about. Yea, sure, the album would've sold, but sales don't mean shit. Examples are 50, Nelly and Ja Rule. Even the wackest artists sell. Let's drop the sales bullshit. If All Eyez was one CD it would've been real dope. But, Pac put a lot of filler tracks that could've been cut out. I think you think it's fashionable to give this CD props.
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I have a feeling alot of you dissing AEOM were about 10 or 12 when Pac dropped this cd, and therefore have no clue about the cd and just think it is fashionable to dis PAc nowadays because of all the internet pAc groupies. Give the guy credit, this cd is a COMMERCIAL achievement, almost every song coulda been a hit, and as far as that only DOggystyle is fucking with this cd. peace
Well said Teecee, Props...
AEOM was the pinnacle of west coast rap at the time. Granted it had a lot of radio tracks and 'raps for the bitches' as Pac called it, but that album was full of amazing music. Lyrically Pac was on fire fresh out of jail, production was top-notch, polished west coast ish. It was an incredible cd and still is today. Sure its not as deep as MATW, its not as personal and interesting as Makaveli, but its a great album. Pac's third best IMO, but still perfect and a classic on a lot of levels.
I think alot of people just get that curse where you have to call something shitty because a lot of squares start listening to it and it becomes over-played, over-exposed, and over-discussed. But regardless, I think you have to give this album its due.
R.I.P. Pac
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Breezio and Lincoln- I too think that pac had more lyrical talent than he showed on AEOM, and i think the subject matter of many songs was disappointing. However, you fools are both trippin'.lol You say yourself it "only" had this or that many classic songs, and the rest were for the radio. Big fucking deal, at least it had some classic songs damnit! And besides, although my three favourite rappers are Masta Ace, Ras KAss and Nas, i will be the first to admit that a song made for the radio can still be classic! Anyone whos says otherwise is trying to be too underground in my opinion. It is great to admire and love the work of artists like Dead Prez, Paris, etc, and it is nice to see someone supporting these artists. HOwever, some people (mainly LINCOLN) really need to stop it because they are making themselves look foolish.
I never said Pac was a sellout because of that album, that was Breezio. I simply don't like the album. How is that making me look foolish?
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How is that making me look foolish?
Because he's a Pac fanatic, and he gets upset at anyone who says a bad word about Pac.
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I never said Pac was a sellout because of that album, that was Breezio. I simply don't like the album. How is that making me look foolish?
You both said that AEOM is the worst Death Row album.
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I never said Pac was a sellout because of that album, that was Breezio. I simply don't like the album. How is that making me look foolish?
You both said that AEOM is the worst Death Row album.
Point out where I said that. I just agreed with Breezio saying AEOM wasn't very good. He didn't say it was the worst ever either.
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You're on point right there, but you both + Bez still said it's one of the worst Death Row albums... everybody can have his own opinion, but some people on this board have something against everything that sells well and you are one of them.
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but some people on this board have something against everything that sells well and you are one of them.
Give me another example where I diss something just because it sold. I like Pac's other albums (before his death) and they all sold.
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lol...
Guess Suge coming out is what they need.
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but some people on this board have something against everything that sells well and you are one of them.
Give me another example where I diss something just because it sold. I like Pac's other albums (before his death) and they all sold.
Doggystyle (single: What's My Name)
The Chronic
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but some people on this board have something against everything that sells well and you are one of them.
Give me another example where I diss something just because it sold. I like Pac's other albums (before his death) and they all sold.
Doggystyle (single: What's My Name)
The Chronic
Where I'm from, giving an album 4/5 is far from dissing it. That's a great rating. BTW What's My Name is so fuckin wack it isn't funny. I got sick of that song after like 5 listens.
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2pac - Nu-Mixx Klazzicz
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chronic 2000.
I havent heard Nu-Mixx Klazzicz yet, but my vote is for the following:
Chronic 2000
TGFR
Michelle - Hung Jury
As for the Pac opinions, I personally LOVE All Eyes On Me and dont see it as an album full of filler. Reason being, it was the first of its kind. No other hip hop artist had ever released a double album of original material before All Eyes. His lyrics werent as deep as his previous albums, but his voice was venomous!!!! I think that album is great because it captured a period of time when The West was high on the hog and we was loving it!! We was loving everything Pac had to say since being released, even more so then the beats he spit over. No other rappers voice has been as celebrated as Pacs was on All Eyes.. since All Eyes. You just cant knock that album no matter how you feel about the music.. that album was a United Westcoast Movement!!!! Just my opinion though.
Ax
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but some people on this board have something against everything that sells well and you are one of them.
Give me another example where I diss something just because it sold. I like Pac's other albums (before his death) and they all sold.
Doggystyle (single: What's My Name)
The Chronic
Where I'm from, giving an album 4/5 is far from dissing it. That's a great rating. BTW What's My Name is so fuckin wack it isn't funny. I got sick of that song after like 5 listens.
how come this is the first time i've seen this post?
your on crack for not giving Doggystyle or The Chronic a 5.
that ain't no fun
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yeah dude All Eyes on my was total ass. like Justin Timberlake is like the future of hip hop man. surfs up
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how come this is the first time i've seen this post?
your on crack for not giving Doggystyle or The Chronic a 5.
that ain't no fun
Yeah I gotta be on crack since I have my own opinion on an album instead of going along with what everyone else says right?
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Why didn't you put the new ja rule cd in the poll??
I like too gangsta 4 radio and dysfunktional family so it's easy to choose