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Title: The word "Cracker"
Post by: Lincoln on October 19, 2003, 03:37:39 PM
Are you offended by this word? In my opinion, the word "cracker" does not refer to White people as a whole, mainly the ones who are ignorant/racist/prejudice. I notice that people dislike artists like dead prez for saying the word & wondered why. I know several Whites who I would openly call Cracker because they always use racial slurs & judge people by race & color. However, I doubt that any White person on this forum is a "cracker" because they all have some sort of respect for Black culture (hip-hop) which is why we're here.
Drop your thoughts here
Peace
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 19, 2003, 03:44:49 PM
Are you offended by this word? In my opinion, the word "cracker" does not refer to White people as a whole, mainly the ones who are ignorant/racist/prejudice. I notice that people dislike artists like dead prez for saying the word & wondered why. I know several Whites who I would openly call Cracker because they always use racial slurs & judge people by race & color. However, I doubt that any White person on this forum is a "cracker" because they all have some sort of respect for Black culture (hip-hop) which is why we're here.
Drop your thoughts here
Peace

im pretty sure theres a COUPLE who u could associate with that word, on this forum lol.  Im only half white so the shit doesnt offend me lol. Never had anyone call me a "cracker" tho, "half cracker" lol...so who knowz. I git called "Nigga" by more black folkz...then any otha word anywayz, kinda funny...lol
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Lincoln on October 19, 2003, 03:48:25 PM
Are you offended by this word? In my opinion, the word "cracker" does not refer to White people as a whole, mainly the ones who are ignorant/racist/prejudice. I notice that people dislike artists like dead prez for saying the word & wondered why. I know several Whites who I would openly call Cracker because they always use racial slurs & judge people by race & color. However, I doubt that any White person on this forum is a "cracker" because they all have some sort of respect for Black culture (hip-hop) which is why we're here.
Drop your thoughts here
Peace

im pretty sure theres a COUPLE who u could associate with that word, on this forum lol.  Im only half white so the shit doesnt offend me lol. Never had anyone call me a "cracker" tho, "half cracker" lol...so who knowz. I git called "Nigga" by more black folkz...then any otha word anywayz, kinda funny...lol

I can't think of anyone on this forum I could call a Cracker (Except that Nazi guy but he doesn't post here anymore). Oh yeah, lol @ half-cracker. That's pretty funny (no offense just sounds funny).
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 19, 2003, 04:12:25 PM
I'm not sure what AG is but i would call him a cracker if he's white...as far as being offended by this word...no im not lol...i agree...its those of us that are ignorant/racist/prejudice that should be called that...just like i would say if a black dude is racist against white people hes a nigger (you can ban me for that if you want but its no different from saying ignorant white people are crackers), i would say if a chinese person is racist they are a gook, a racist mexican is a spick...if someone is racist they should be called shit like that so they can see how it feels...for those who arent racist or prejudice...we're all just people...
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 19, 2003, 04:14:21 PM
I'm not sure what AG is but i would call him a cracker if he's white...as far as being offended by this word...no im not lol...i agree...its those of us that are ignorant/racist/prejudice that should be called that...just like i would say if a black dude is racist against white people hes a nigger (you can ban me for that if you want but its no different from saying ignorant white people are crackers), i would say if a chinese person is racist they are a gook, a racist mexican is a spick...if someone is racist they should be called shit like that so they can see how it feels...for those who arent racist or prejudice...we're all just people...

i thought AG was mexican?
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 19, 2003, 04:18:10 PM
I'm not sure what AG is but i would call him a cracker if he's white...as far as being offended by this word...no im not lol...i agree...its those of us that are ignorant/racist/prejudice that should be called that...just like i would say if a black dude is racist against white people hes a nigger (you can ban me for that if you want but its no different from saying ignorant white people are crackers), i would say if a chinese person is racist they are a gook, a racist mexican is a spick...if someone is racist they should be called shit like that so they can see how it feels...for those who arent racist or prejudice...we're all just people...

i thought AG was mexican?

i dont know what he is...whatever he is he's the racist word for it
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 19, 2003, 04:21:35 PM
Are you offended by this word? In my opinion, the word "cracker" does not refer to White people as a whole, mainly the ones who are ignorant/racist/prejudice. I notice that people dislike artists like dead prez for saying the word & wondered why. I know several Whites who I would openly call Cracker because they always use racial slurs & judge people by race & color. However, I doubt that any White person on this forum is a "cracker" because they all have some sort of respect for Black culture (hip-hop) which is why we're here.
Drop your thoughts here
Peace

im pretty sure theres a COUPLE who u could associate with that word, on this forum lol.  Im only half white so the shit doesnt offend me lol. Never had anyone call me a "cracker" tho, "half cracker" lol...so who knowz. I git called "Nigga" by more black folkz...then any otha word anywayz, kinda funny...lol

I can't think of anyone on this forum I could call a Cracker

CWalker? Trauma? I dunno...maybe not... :-\
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 19, 2003, 04:36:34 PM
jus curious how come when the word cracker is used on this forum no1 makes a big deal.  or when tech called cwalked a pollock no1 made a big deal.  but when i called ibo a nigger an in my  mind with good reason i was a racist for it the next grand wizard of the kkk.  i wasnt refering to all blacks just ibo b/c that is what he is in my  opinion
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Casper on October 19, 2003, 05:15:19 PM
im mexican dumbass... and i use the word cracker everday... becuase i make chicken noodle soup and i like to scoop some of the noodles and chicken with crackers  8)
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 19, 2003, 05:27:02 PM
im mexican dumbass... and i use the word cracker everday... becuase i make chicken noodle soup and i like to scoop some of the noodles and chicken with crackers  8)

rofl...thats the only way to make it too
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 19, 2003, 05:52:05 PM
i would like an answer to my question tho.  when damon x genralized all whites as crackers it was no biggie.  i call one black a nigger b/c he is one an im made out to be hitlers grandson
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Lincoln on October 19, 2003, 05:55:39 PM
i would like an answer to my question tho.  when damon x genralized all whites as crackers it was no biggie.  i call one black a nigger b/c he is one an im made out to be hitlers grandson

I agree with that. Making general comments about Whites is wrong. As Martin Luther King pointed out, Black supremacy is just as bad as White supremacy. However, you calling one Black "nigger b/c he is one" is also a terrible statement. That word means Black Object & was used to define slaves. Are you saying the guy you called that is a Black object or slave?
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 19, 2003, 05:58:48 PM
i would like an answer to my question tho.  when damon x genralized all whites as crackers it was no biggie.  i call one black a nigger b/c he is one an im made out to be hitlers grandson

I agree with that. Making general comments about Whites is wrong. As Martin Luther King pointed out, Black supremacy is just as bad as White supremacy. However, you calling one Black "nigger b/c he is one" is also a terrible statement. That word means Black Object & was used to define slaves. Are you saying the guy you called that is a Black object or slave?

that is not what nigger means.  to some people maybe but that aint the meaning.  an you know what if he wants to talk shit about my mother an new york than i would call him it again.  an what happens if i was black an called him a nigger
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Casper on October 19, 2003, 06:47:20 PM
i call one black a nigger b/c he is one an im made out to be hitlers grandson

 >:( everyone can agree that Sub Z is hitlers grandson!!!
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 19, 2003, 06:47:26 PM
For those that don't know, Cracker is basically the anti-nigger. Nigger coming from negro, which is spanish for black object (like pointed out earlier in the thread). The Spanish where the main slave importers to the Americas, so they got to pick out the nice words to call the slaves. Then when slaves where in the United States, they basically where tricked into thinking their masters where great people. Some knew better, but if you read what mainy of them said, they felt that their masters where very fair, and treated them well. But the masters role was to play good cop, it was the Overseer (sorry 'seer, just U.S. history) that was the bad cop. The overseer would whip the slave, and forced them to work. Slaves hated the overseer, or as they call them Cracker. He was the Cracker, because he cracked the whip. Also, the saying "What's Crackin'?" also comes from slaves asking each other "what's crackin'?" in terms of who was the latest slave to get punished. But to be called a cracker in insulting, because overseers where usually the lowest forms of white people, even to other white people. They were usually uneducated, drunkards, who where called to keep slaves in line. They often worked besides the slaves, to make sure they would keep up their work, and they never had a steady home because they could not stay at a home too long because in order to whip slaves easier, you can't get to know them, so when a overseer got to know the slaves, they had to be fired. Overseers where looked down apon by whites, because they wheren't gentlemen, they where drunkards, and they where dirty people. Funny how mainy thinks from the slavery days is relevent today. So when a black person says cracker, they mean it in a get back way, as in that all white people are overseers and are waiting to whip the black person. Personally, I'm Latino, so I stay out that shit. But many things from slavery are still today. And inorder to forget about slavery, we have to get rid of everything that has to deal with it. Those old rich plantation owners in the south gain their riches from rich slave holding grandfathers all the segration in the south is a direct effect from when whites wanted to control blacks after they were freed, and the culture of black fathers leaving their families because slave men never learned to be fathers because they were always sold to another owner when they started a family, the common perception that blacks depend on welfare comes from whites thinking that blacks needed whites to live because white owners feed black slaves, police officers that feel they have to act like modern day overseers in black communities. All of these things, and more are direct from slavery, and slavery will never be forgotten, until the wrongs were correct. Until then, let the cracker and nigger calling continue, and I'll stand on the side and try not to get called wetback, beaner and spic.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 19, 2003, 07:02:14 PM
see this is the type of shit that bugs me...for example...if a black comic makes jokes about white people (like they ALWAYS do) they are funny as hell (and i admit i think they are the funniest comics)...but if i white comic makes fun of a black person they are racist and never have another comedy gig again...its bullshit.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 19, 2003, 08:07:31 PM
see this is the type of shit that bugs me...for example...if a black comic makes jokes about white people (like they ALWAYS do) they are funny as hell (and i admit i think they are the funniest comics)...but if i white comic makes fun of a black person they are racist and never have another comedy gig again...its bullshit.

Difference, white people where never inslaved by blacks on the account of race, or they never had rights taken from them because they where white. Many differences, that's just a start.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: budsmokeronly on October 19, 2003, 08:26:46 PM
I wouldn't get offended if you called me cracker, but if you called me chip, oh boy then its on!
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: AWS SS 88 on October 19, 2003, 08:40:40 PM
see this is the type of shit that bugs me...for example...if a black comic makes jokes about white people (like they ALWAYS do) they are funny as hell (and i admit i think they are the funniest comics)...but if i white comic makes fun of a black person they are racist and never have another comedy gig again...its bullshit.

Difference, white people where never inslaved by blacks on the account of race, or they never had rights taken from them because they where white. Many differences, that's just a start.

whites are killed in africa because they are white,how is that any different?  

like ive said 1,000,001 times,blacks were enslaved by blacks in africa,and then they were sold to whites ( i know that does really pertain to anything here,but you were making it look like blacks were completely innocent,which they werent)
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 19, 2003, 08:47:23 PM
see this is the type of shit that bugs me...for example...if a black comic makes jokes about white people (like they ALWAYS do) they are funny as hell (and i admit i think they are the funniest comics)...but if i white comic makes fun of a black person they are racist and never have another comedy gig again...its bullshit.

Difference, white people where never inslaved by blacks on the account of race, or they never had rights taken from them because they where white. Many differences, that's just a start.
so since slavery went down 200 years ago its still alright to use that excuse.  fuck that
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 19, 2003, 09:04:15 PM
man thats fucked up...i didnt whip you and say nigger pick my cotton...that is probably the most ignorant shit i've ever heard...i didnt make you work for me for no money and then sell you off to some other dude so he could do the same thing...slavery (as tom said) has been over 200 years...GET THE FUCK OVER IT ALREADY!
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Casper on October 19, 2003, 09:42:13 PM
man thats fucked up...i didnt whip you and say nigger pick my cotton...that is probably the most ignorant shit i've ever heard...i didnt make you work for me for no money and then sell you off to some other dude so he could do the same thing...slavery (as tom said) has been over 200 years...GET THE FUCK OVER IT ALREADY!

im not starting nothing but your ancestors probably did and that goes for tom too...

also if any race i would want to be latino cuzz we can make fun of both races!!  :D and if u make fun of us like 20 of them are gonna kick your ass after the show  :D :D :D
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: AWS SS 88 on October 19, 2003, 09:58:03 PM
well,most of todays blacks ancestors probably took part in slavery (having black slaves or selling black slaves) so it goes both ways,theyre just as responsible as whites were
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: UnstoppableForce on October 19, 2003, 11:30:08 PM
well,most of todays blacks ancestors probably took part in slavery (having black slaves or selling black slaves) so it goes both ways,theyre just as responsible as whites were

LMAO@ your logic
Today's African-Americans' ancestors lived in America as slaves. They were OBVIOUSLY the ones SOLD, not the ones selling.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 01:06:44 AM
my ancestors probably were slave drivers...i dont know nor do i give a shit...i am not my ancestors...i dont enslave people to do work for me...either I do it or it doesnt get done, simple as that...this is where what i was saying earlier comes in...if you honestly think that whites today owe black people something because of the fact that our ancestors made you slaves...then you are one dumb fucking nigger...i'll probably get banned for saying that but we defined that earlier...a nigger is an ignorant/racist blackman...thats exactly what that is...so i repeat...if thats how you feel youre a ignorant ass nigger.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 20, 2003, 02:39:50 PM
Read my longer post. I was spitting knowledge, hoping that your ADD selves would read it. But I guess it's true, todays youth don't want to take time to learn, or do anything. It's all good, 'cause I know many people who would starve for information. In the long post, it explains how slavery still affects today, and oh yeah, slavery has only be gone for 145 years now. Which honestly is not long, because that's only like 4 or 5 generations, and a lot of shit has to change. I knew you guys would read my little one, and get your panties in a bunch, now read the long one please.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Javier on October 20, 2003, 04:39:51 PM
the whole comedy issue is phony. Anybody seen the show Tough Crowd?  Colin Quin tells Patrice O Neal( who is black) "all you people do is be disrespectful in theatres, ride in the back of buses and mess up our cities and blah blah" Nick DiPaolo (who is Italian) also disses and makes fun of black people, which is even weird since hes sicilian and most likely has black blood in him
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Real American on October 20, 2003, 04:50:06 PM
the whole comedy issue is phony. Anybody seen the show Tough Crowd?  Colin Quin tells Patrice O Neal( who is black) "all you people do is be disrespectful in theatres, ride in the back of buses and mess up our cities and blah blah" Nick DiPaolo (who is Italian) also disses and makes fun of black people, which is even weird since hes sicilian and most likely has black blood in him

LMAO, I love that show. Every comic on there makes tons of racist comments....it's dope.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: AWS SS 88 on October 20, 2003, 05:37:48 PM
well,most of todays blacks ancestors probably took part in slavery (having black slaves or selling black slaves) so it goes both ways,theyre just as responsible as whites were

LMAO@ your logic
Today's African-Americans' ancestors lived in America as slaves. They were OBVIOUSLY the ones SOLD, not the ones selling.

they were still sold by blacks,were they not?
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: UnstoppableForce on October 20, 2003, 06:18:33 PM
well,most of todays blacks ancestors probably took part in slavery (having black slaves or selling black slaves) so it goes both ways,theyre just as responsible as whites were

LMAO@ your logic
Today's African-Americans' ancestors lived in America as slaves. They were OBVIOUSLY the ones SOLD, not the ones selling.

they were still sold by blacks,were they not?

Yes, but you claimed that today's African-Americans' ancestors were the ones who sold blacks into slavery, which is quite impossible if those blacks are here now. The ancestors were the ones SOLD not the ones selling.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: AWS SS 88 on October 20, 2003, 06:32:30 PM
yeah i made a dumb comment,but the fact that blacks were sold by blacks means  NO EVIL WHITEY MUAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 07:14:06 PM
jus curious how come when the word cracker is used on this forum no1 makes a big deal.  or when tech called cwalked a pollock no1 made a big deal.  but when i called ibo a nigger an in my  mind with good reason i was a racist for it the next grand wizard of the kkk.  i wasnt refering to all blacks just ibo b/c that is what he is in my  opinion

because youre white, in America. And with what White people have done to other races, with the racist acts, racist policies, and racist ideals they have created here in the past, and even now...its something u have to deal with. Small price to pay for all the advantages of being a white male in America. Its not right to be racist against ANYone. BUT, like ive said before...when someone lives in a country that has set up racist policies against their people, and any other people who arent white males...i understand where their racism comes from. I dont understand when it comes from the other side.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 20, 2003, 07:22:12 PM
jus curious how come when the word cracker is used on this forum no1 makes a big deal.  or when tech called cwalked a pollock no1 made a big deal.  but when i called ibo a nigger an in my  mind with good reason i was a racist for it the next grand wizard of the kkk.  i wasnt refering to all blacks just ibo b/c that is what he is in my  opinion

because youre white, in America. And with what White people have done to other races, with the racist acts, racist policies, and racist ideals they have created here in the past, and even now...its something u have to deal with. Small price to pay for all the advantages of being a white male in America. Its not right to be racist against ANYone. BUT, like ive said before...when someone lives in a country that has set up racist policies against their people, and any other people who arent white males...i understand where their racism comes from. I dont understand when it comes from the other side.

so its alright for ibo to talk a gang of shit cuz hes black... fuck that
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 07:30:22 PM
jus curious how come when the word cracker is used on this forum no1 makes a big deal.  or when tech called cwalked a pollock no1 made a big deal.  but when i called ibo a nigger an in my  mind with good reason i was a racist for it the next grand wizard of the kkk.  i wasnt refering to all blacks just ibo b/c that is what he is in my  opinion

because youre white, in America. And with what White people have done to other races, with the racist acts, racist policies, and racist ideals they have created here in the past, and even now...its something u have to deal with. Small price to pay for all the advantages of being a white male in America. Its not right to be racist against ANYone. BUT, like ive said before...when someone lives in a country that has set up racist policies against their people, and any other people who arent white males...i understand where their racism comes from. I dont understand when it comes from the other side.

so its alright for ibo to talk a gang of shit cuz hes black... fuck that

honestly man, ive seen u attack him racially WAY before ive ever seen him attack u with it. I dont even recall if ive seen him attack u with any racism, period...and if it was, it was definetely in response (from what ive seen). So in that case, you are wrong. Im not sayin its ok for anyone to be racist, im jus sayin i understand why some are...and DONT understand why others are. Plus, if someone insults YOU...and yur first thought is to attack them based on their race...then to me, your attack isnt on their character...but on their race. So yes, ud be attacking everyone of that race. And even you, should be able to understand that certain words carry much more weight in this country...then others, based on their history in this country. "Nigger" is a FAR more harsh, and unnacceptable word then "Cracker", or whatever. U may not like it, but its the truth. If Black people owned slaves in this country, and used a word like "Cracker" through history to demean white people...then id be on yur side about it. But that isnt what happened in this country. You cant change history.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 20, 2003, 08:26:15 PM
jus curious how come when the word cracker is used on this forum no1 makes a big deal.  or when tech called cwalked a pollock no1 made a big deal.  but when i called ibo a nigger an in my  mind with good reason i was a racist for it the next grand wizard of the kkk.  i wasnt refering to all blacks just ibo b/c that is what he is in my  opinion

because youre white, in America. And with what White people have done to other races, with the racist acts, racist policies, and racist ideals they have created here in the past, and even now...its something u have to deal with. Small price to pay for all the advantages of being a white male in America. Its not right to be racist against ANYone. BUT, like ive said before...when someone lives in a country that has set up racist policies against their people, and any other people who arent white males...i understand where their racism comes from. I dont understand when it comes from the other side.

so its alright for ibo to talk a gang of shit cuz hes black... fuck that

honestly man, ive seen u attack him racially WAY before ive ever seen him attack u with it. I dont even recall if ive seen him attack u with any racism, period...and if it was, it was definetely in response (from what ive seen). So in that case, you are wrong. Im not sayin its ok for anyone to be racist, im jus sayin i understand why some are...and DONT understand why others are. Plus, if someone insults YOU...and yur first thought is to attack them based on their race...then to me, your attack isnt on their character...but on their race. So yes, ud be attacking everyone of that race. And even you, should be able to understand that certain words carry much more weight in this country...then others, based on their history in this country. "Nigger" is a FAR more harsh, and unnacceptable word then "Cracker", or whatever. U may not like it, but its the truth. If Black people owned slaves in this country, and used a word like "Cracker" through history to demean white people...then id be on yur side about it. But that isnt what happened in this country. You cant change history.

tell me when i attacked him racially.  when i called him a racist b/c he dont like white people an other people sayin he doesnt like whites.  b4 i called him a nigger in the first place i never EVER called him a nigger
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 08:29:18 PM
jus curious how come when the word cracker is used on this forum no1 makes a big deal.  or when tech called cwalked a pollock no1 made a big deal.  but when i called ibo a nigger an in my  mind with good reason i was a racist for it the next grand wizard of the kkk.  i wasnt refering to all blacks just ibo b/c that is what he is in my  opinion

because youre white, in America. And with what White people have done to other races, with the racist acts, racist policies, and racist ideals they have created here in the past, and even now...its something u have to deal with. Small price to pay for all the advantages of being a white male in America. Its not right to be racist against ANYone. BUT, like ive said before...when someone lives in a country that has set up racist policies against their people, and any other people who arent white males...i understand where their racism comes from. I dont understand when it comes from the other side.

so its alright for ibo to talk a gang of shit cuz hes black... fuck that

honestly man, ive seen u attack him racially WAY before ive ever seen him attack u with it. I dont even recall if ive seen him attack u with any racism, period...and if it was, it was definetely in response (from what ive seen). So in that case, you are wrong. Im not sayin its ok for anyone to be racist, im jus sayin i understand why some are...and DONT understand why others are. Plus, if someone insults YOU...and yur first thought is to attack them based on their race...then to me, your attack isnt on their character...but on their race. So yes, ud be attacking everyone of that race. And even you, should be able to understand that certain words carry much more weight in this country...then others, based on their history in this country. "Nigger" is a FAR more harsh, and unnacceptable word then "Cracker", or whatever. U may not like it, but its the truth. If Black people owned slaves in this country, and used a word like "Cracker" through history to demean white people...then id be on yur side about it. But that isnt what happened in this country. You cant change history.

tell me when i attacked him racially.  when i called him a racist b/c he dont like white people an other people sayin he doesnt like whites.  b4 i called him a nigger in the first place i never EVER called him a nigger

i dont recall either one of u attacking eachother racially...until u blew up on him callin him a "nigger"...and all the otha shit u said with it...So yah, that was racist. Period.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Trauma-san on October 20, 2003, 08:30:34 PM
Cracker is a word that whites invented to put down other whites, who were poor.  It's a very harmful racial slur to put down a white person, and is comparable to the word Nigger. Anybody who calls someone a cracker is a racist, just like anybody who calls somebody a nigger.  There aren't any gradients of that, it's the exact same thing.  There's no such thing as 'reverse racism', racism is racism.  It's assuming things about a person based on what race they are, and in this case, assuming bad things about a person based on what race they are (and using a slur to denegrate them based on their race).

Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 20, 2003, 08:43:37 PM
jus curious how come when the word cracker is used on this forum no1 makes a big deal.  or when tech called cwalked a pollock no1 made a big deal.  but when i called ibo a nigger an in my  mind with good reason i was a racist for it the next grand wizard of the kkk.  i wasnt refering to all blacks just ibo b/c that is what he is in my  opinion

because youre white, in America. And with what White people have done to other races, with the racist acts, racist policies, and racist ideals they have created here in the past, and even now...its something u have to deal with. Small price to pay for all the advantages of being a white male in America. Its not right to be racist against ANYone. BUT, like ive said before...when someone lives in a country that has set up racist policies against their people, and any other people who arent white males...i understand where their racism comes from. I dont understand when it comes from the other side.

so its alright for ibo to talk a gang of shit cuz hes black... fuck that

honestly man, ive seen u attack him racially WAY before ive ever seen him attack u with it. I dont even recall if ive seen him attack u with any racism, period...and if it was, it was definetely in response (from what ive seen). So in that case, you are wrong. Im not sayin its ok for anyone to be racist, im jus sayin i understand why some are...and DONT understand why others are. Plus, if someone insults YOU...and yur first thought is to attack them based on their race...then to me, your attack isnt on their character...but on their race. So yes, ud be attacking everyone of that race. And even you, should be able to understand that certain words carry much more weight in this country...then others, based on their history in this country. "Nigger" is a FAR more harsh, and unnacceptable word then "Cracker", or whatever. U may not like it, but its the truth. If Black people owned slaves in this country, and used a word like "Cracker" through history to demean white people...then id be on yur side about it. But that isnt what happened in this country. You cant change history.

tell me when i attacked him racially.  when i called him a racist b/c he dont like white people an other people sayin he doesnt like whites.  b4 i called him a nigger in the first place i never EVER called him a nigger

i dont recall either one of u attacking eachother racially...until u blew up on him callin him a "nigger"...and all the otha shit u said with it...So yah, that was racist. Period.

WOOOOOAH.... u jus said u honestly remember me attacking him racially even b4 i called him a nigger an than u say dont recall it.  an lets see how u would react to some1 u really dont like at all in the first place an has had problems with  talk shit about where ur from (new york in my case if it was you it would be san diego) an talked shit about your mother.  But im white so i gotta tip toe around every lil thing i say an do.  fuck that....  if ur a black person thats a nigger imma call u it.  if ur a white person thats a dirtbag imma call you honky an white pussy.  fuck that imma say what i want 2 b/c i bash every1 of every1 race.  you make it out to be i only targeted blacks when all i did was target ibo.  your like one of those ultra bill reily conseratives that takes one lil thing an rides with it an completely ignores all the other facts.  see if u wanna call me racist an i call all black people nigger like sub-z than ur right.  but if ur goin call me a racist b/c of some1 that i have had a history of having problems with an i finally cant take no more so i retailiate with the first thing that popped in my head an ur goin call me a racist.  fuck that
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: AWS SS 88 on October 20, 2003, 09:07:55 PM
i get into a lot of your posts somehow tom lolol
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: UnstoppableForce on October 20, 2003, 09:11:16 PM
i get into a lot of your posts somehow tom lolol

Cuz you're a cracker
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: eS El Duque on October 20, 2003, 09:28:08 PM
my ancestors probably were slave drivers...i dont know nor do i give a shit...i am not my ancestors...i dont enslave people to do work for me...either I do it or it doesnt get done, simple as that...this is where what i was saying earlier comes in...if you honestly think that whites today owe black people something because of the fact that our ancestors made you slaves...then you are one dumb fucking nigger...i'll probably get banned for saying that but we defined that earlier...a nigger is an ignorant/racist blackman...thats exactly what that is...so i repeat...if thats how you feel youre a ignorant ass nigger.

question, who are you talking to lol?
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Trauma-san on October 20, 2003, 09:43:35 PM
As Martin Luther King pointed out, Black supremacy is just as bad as White supremacy.

What is a shame, is that all of the Great work Martin Luther King Jr. spent his lifetime doing, was unravelled in a few short years, by organizations like the NAACP and the NOI, who twisted his words to make most whites feel he was as racist as these 2 organizations are.  Martin Luther King Jr. was a great great man, who clearly had a gift and a great vision, and to be cheesy "kept his eye on the prize"... however, most people will always associate him with the racist organizations that stole his name & image after his death, and changed his message to one that better suited their own.  
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 10:27:23 PM
jus curious how come when the word cracker is used on this forum no1 makes a big deal.  or when tech called cwalked a pollock no1 made a big deal.  but when i called ibo a nigger an in my  mind with good reason i was a racist for it the next grand wizard of the kkk.  i wasnt refering to all blacks just ibo b/c that is what he is in my  opinion

because youre white, in America. And with what White people have done to other races, with the racist acts, racist policies, and racist ideals they have created here in the past, and even now...its something u have to deal with. Small price to pay for all the advantages of being a white male in America. Its not right to be racist against ANYone. BUT, like ive said before...when someone lives in a country that has set up racist policies against their people, and any other people who arent white males...i understand where their racism comes from. I dont understand when it comes from the other side.

so its alright for ibo to talk a gang of shit cuz hes black... fuck that

honestly man, ive seen u attack him racially WAY before ive ever seen him attack u with it. I dont even recall if ive seen him attack u with any racism, period...and if it was, it was definetely in response (from what ive seen). So in that case, you are wrong. Im not sayin its ok for anyone to be racist, im jus sayin i understand why some are...and DONT understand why others are. Plus, if someone insults YOU...and yur first thought is to attack them based on their race...then to me, your attack isnt on their character...but on their race. So yes, ud be attacking everyone of that race. And even you, should be able to understand that certain words carry much more weight in this country...then others, based on their history in this country. "Nigger" is a FAR more harsh, and unnacceptable word then "Cracker", or whatever. U may not like it, but its the truth. If Black people owned slaves in this country, and used a word like "Cracker" through history to demean white people...then id be on yur side about it. But that isnt what happened in this country. You cant change history.

tell me when i attacked him racially.  when i called him a racist b/c he dont like white people an other people sayin he doesnt like whites.  b4 i called him a nigger in the first place i never EVER called him a nigger

i dont recall either one of u attacking eachother racially...until u blew up on him callin him a "nigger"...and all the otha shit u said with it...So yah, that was racist. Period.

WOOOOOAH.... u jus said u honestly remember me attacking him racially even b4 i called him a nigger an than u say dont recall it.  an lets see how u would react to some1 u really dont like at all in the first place an has had problems with  talk shit about where ur from (new york in my case if it was you it would be san diego) an talked shit about your mother.  But im white so i gotta tip toe around every lil thing i say an do.  fuck that....  if ur a black person thats a nigger imma call u it.  if ur a white person thats a dirtbag imma call you honky an white pussy.  fuck that imma say what i want 2 b/c i bash every1 of every1 race.  you make it out to be i only targeted blacks when all i did was target ibo.  your like one of those ultra bill reily conseratives that takes one lil thing an rides with it an completely ignores all the other facts.  see if u wanna call me racist an i call all black people nigger like sub-z than ur right.  but if ur goin call me a racist b/c of some1 that i have had a history of having problems with an i finally cant take no more so i retailiate with the first thing that popped in my head an ur goin call me a racist.  fuck that

uhh...no...

i didnt even really read all your post, except the top half. And no, i said i remember YOU attacking HIM first...racially. Which WAS when u called him a "nigger". I dont ever remember him attacking u with any race shit before that. Not to mention, it wasnt the first time ive heard u make racist comments towards a particular race. U recall yourself callin sum asian lady who u were pissed at on tha road...a "fuckin chink"? Well i do. So dont bitch about bein called a racist, when u make racist fuckin comments. Admit what u are.
  And Trauma, comparing "cracker" and "nigger" is fuckin ridiculous. The ONLY reason for someone to try and say the two are comparible is so that they can belittle the impact of the word "nigger". Its like u are lost in some sorta dreamworld of what America really is. Where white people have suffered for years...and all the minorities have had the upperhand for so long! lol Wtf is wrong with u? Knowin u, im hopin youre jus sayin what youre saying...to get a reaction. I dont assume either of u are THAT out of touch, to really believe what u say. Youre both incapable of puttin yourselves in others shoes. Ive been around people of ALL races for as long as i can remember. Kali is probably the most ethnically diverse state in the country. Ive heard racial slurs be thrown at all different people. And no, the word "cracker" doesnt have anywhere NEAR the same impact as the word "nigger". Like i said, if roles in this country were reversed...and the word "cracker" had the history that the word "nigger" does...then it would be worse. But it doesnt. So if this bothers u THAT much, go live somewhere else where u can feel sorry for yourself...for no reason. But as long as u live in America...guess what, u have to deal with it...cus it was created by your ancestors.
  And last, Tom...i woulda thought u were a racist anyways by the shit uve said on here before. But the reason i got on u about it, is because mah homegirl used tah post here (whos black), and was actually really bothered by what u said. I think she even talked to u on IMs before all that. If what u said, wasnt racist towards black people...and only applied to I-Bo...it wouldnt have bothered her also.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 10:35:04 PM
man what i think is fucked up is the fact that people try to justify using cracker, nigger, chink, gook, spick, spearchucker, or any other shit like that by saying "oh well one doesnt have as much impact"...you know why cracker doesnt piss us off? because we're over shit! nobody gives a fuck what happened 2 hundered years ago...if you really want people to stop using the word nigger maybe black people should stop using it so much...otherwise just quit giving a fuck...nobody cares when black people say cracker...we just shrug it off and say OK...either shut the fuck up and live with it (and quit justifying any racial slurs) or stop using it entirely...but whats the difference with someone calling me a cracker and me calling them a nigger or a gook...there isnt one...sure maybe the black guy will get all pissed off and run home crying to his mommy but thats his problem not mine...im not a racist person but this double standard shit between blacks and whites is fucked up.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 20, 2003, 10:35:29 PM
u kno what tone,  enough of your self rightous bull shit.  you dont kno me so go fuck ya self.  an about the asian lady i remember sayin i felt bad about what i said an really regreted it.  an lets jus forget about how i was the only white kid in one of my classes to stick up for a spanish kid that they kept callin a spic.  go fuck ya self im done arguing with you
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 10:39:47 PM
just to prove my point:

spick spick spick chink chink gook gook cracker cracker nigger jew jew wop wop MOTHERFUCKING HONKEY

and i bet the only thing in there that offended anyone was the word nigger  ::)
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: UnstoppableForce on October 20, 2003, 10:43:21 PM
^^^ BAN HIM FOR SAYING NIGGER >:( >:(










 ;D
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 10:44:54 PM
u kno what tone,  enough of your self rightous bull shit.  you dont kno me so go fuck ya self.  an about the asian lady i remember sayin i felt bad about what i said an really regreted it.  an lets jus forget about how i was the only white kid in one of my classes to stick up for a spanish kid that they kept callin a spic.  go fuck ya self im done arguing with you

lol *applause for Tom*!!

ive heard white people accused of being racist say..."but ive had black friends..." before also. Im glad u felt BAD about what u said about tha asian lady. But feeling bad about it, doesnt matter...because youd do it again in a heartbeat. So how bad do u really feel?
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 10:46:27 PM
^^^ BAN HIM FOR SAYING NIGGER >:( >:(










 ;D

ROFL DO IT BAN MY WHITE HONKEY CRACKER ASS...OH SORRY....AFTER THAT POST I FORGOT...BAN MY WHITE HONKEY RACIST CRACKER ASS!!!
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 10:55:13 PM
man what i think is fucked up is the fact that people try to justify using cracker, nigger, chink, gook, spick, spearchucker, or any other shit like that by saying "oh well one doesnt have as much impact"...you know why cracker doesnt piss us off? because we're over shit! nobody gives a fuck what happened 2 hundered years ago...if you really want people to stop using the word nigger maybe black people should stop using it so much...otherwise just quit giving a fuck...nobody cares when black people say cracker...we just shrug it off and say OK...either shut the fuck up and live with it (and quit justifying any racial slurs) or stop using it entirely...but whats the difference with someone calling me a cracker and me calling them a nigger or a gook...there isnt one...sure maybe the black guy will get all pissed off and run home crying to his mommy but thats his problem not mine...im not a racist person but this double standard shit between blacks and whites is fucked up.

why is this so hard to understand? Actually, its only hard to understand...for people who dont TRY to understand it. Im not justifying calling someone a "cracker". You guys know im half white. But, that doesnt mean i let my race stand in the way of common sense. Any racial slurr thrown around by white people in THIS country, has more impact then a racial slurr thrown AT them. Its the same way, women can call men anything...and it isnt taken as harsh, but men cant go back at women the same way...or its sexism. White males created this, social behavior with past actions (and present even), and now are mad cus they have to live with it. Thats such a childish mindset. Racist attitudes coming from the top...always have more impact then racist words coming from the bottom. Like i said, neither of u will understand it...cus u chose not to. Ignorance is bliss. But regardless, the president is still a white male, most likely youre governor, senator, or whatever...is a white male. Chances are at least 70% of the people making any decisions in your state, are white males...but yet it bothers u so much that the word "nigger" has more impact then the word "cracker". lol u gotta be kidding...
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Casper on October 20, 2003, 10:56:42 PM
just to prove my point:

spick spick spick chink chink gook gook cracker cracker nigger jew jew wop wop MOTHERFUCKING HONKEY

and i bet the only thing in there that offended anyone was the word nigger  ::)

you do got a point there...
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 10:57:15 PM
^^^ BAN HIM FOR SAYING NIGGER >:( >:(










 ;D

ROFL DO IT BAN MY WHITE HONKEY CRACKER ASS...OH SORRY....AFTER THAT POST I FORGOT...BAN MY WHITE HONKEY RACIST CRACKER ASS!!!

damn...the definition of "useless post"^^
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 10:58:31 PM
man what i think is fucked up is the fact that people try to justify using cracker, nigger, chink, gook, spick, spearchucker, or any other shit like that by saying "oh well one doesnt have as much impact"...you know why cracker doesnt piss us off? because we're over shit! nobody gives a fuck what happened 2 hundered years ago...if you really want people to stop using the word nigger maybe black people should stop using it so much...otherwise just quit giving a fuck...nobody cares when black people say cracker...we just shrug it off and say OK...either shut the fuck up and live with it (and quit justifying any racial slurs) or stop using it entirely...but whats the difference with someone calling me a cracker and me calling them a nigger or a gook...there isnt one...sure maybe the black guy will get all pissed off and run home crying to his mommy but thats his problem not mine...im not a racist person but this double standard shit between blacks and whites is fucked up.

why is this so hard to understand? Actually, its only hard to understand...for people who dont TRY to understand it. Im not justifying calling someone a "cracker". You guys know im half white. But, that doesnt mean i let my race stand in the way of common sense. Any racial slurr thrown around by white people in THIS country, has more impact then a racial slurr thrown AT them. Its the same way, women can call men anything...and it isnt taken as harsh, but men cant go back at women the same way...or its sexism. White males created this, social behavior with past actions (and present even), and now are mad cus they have to live with it. Thats such a childish mindset. Racist attitudes coming from the top...always have more impact then racist words coming from the bottom. Like i said, neither of u will understand it...cus u chose not to. Ignorance is bliss. But regardless, the president is still a white male, most likely youre governor, senator, or whatever...is a white male. Chances are at least 70% of the people making any decisions in your state, are white males...but yet it bothers u so much that the word "nigger" has more impact then the word "cracker". lol u gotta be kidding...

it doesnt bother me at all...what bothers me is the double standard...as i said in my post with nothing but racial slurs...the only people that get offended by racial slurs are black people...if they would just stop caring about it and do like the rest of us and shrug it off and not give a shit then the world would be a hell of a lot better.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 11:00:14 PM
just to prove my point:

spick spick spick chink chink gook gook cracker cracker nigger jew jew wop wop MOTHERFUCKING HONKEY

and i bet the only thing in there that offended anyone was the word nigger  ::)

you do got a point there...

exactly...i can call you a spick ag and you dont care do you? (im not trying to diss you this time im actually asking a serious question)...its just like if you called me cracker...neither of us care...but if we were to call say...ibo...a nigger we're racist bastards...
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Casper on October 20, 2003, 11:03:26 PM
just to prove my point:

spick spick spick chink chink gook gook cracker cracker nigger jew jew wop wop MOTHERFUCKING HONKEY

and i bet the only thing in there that offended anyone was the word nigger  ::)

you do got a point there...

exactly...i can call you a spick ag and you dont care do you? (im not trying to diss you this time im actually asking a serious question)...its just like if you called me cracker...neither of us care...but if we were to call say...ibo...a nigger we're racist bastards...

i know but for some reason IMO nigger sticks out likes its a meaner word idk it just feels wrong... i think the word nigger is overrated and mostly because the black ppl are the ones that made a big deal out of it... not to dissrespect any black ppl but thats my opinion...
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 11:08:04 PM
just to prove my point:

spick spick spick chink chink gook gook cracker cracker nigger jew jew wop wop MOTHERFUCKING HONKEY

and i bet the only thing in there that offended anyone was the word nigger  ::)

you do got a point there...

exactly...i can call you a spick ag and you dont care do you? (im not trying to diss you this time im actually asking a serious question)...its just like if you called me cracker...neither of us care...but if we were to call say...ibo...a nigger we're racist bastards...

i know but for some reason IMO nigger sticks out likes its a meaner word idk it just feels wrong... i think the word nigger is overrated and mostly because the black ppl are the ones that made a big deal out of it... not to dissrespect any black ppl but thats my opinion...

dont get me wrong im not saying its ok to get mad at a black dude and yell "fuck you nigger" or anything like that...im just saying if someone does do that theres no need to wet your huggies over it...
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 11:11:10 PM
man what i think is fucked up is the fact that people try to justify using cracker, nigger, chink, gook, spick, spearchucker, or any other shit like that by saying "oh well one doesnt have as much impact"...you know why cracker doesnt piss us off? because we're over shit! nobody gives a fuck what happened 2 hundered years ago...if you really want people to stop using the word nigger maybe black people should stop using it so much...otherwise just quit giving a fuck...nobody cares when black people say cracker...we just shrug it off and say OK...either shut the fuck up and live with it (and quit justifying any racial slurs) or stop using it entirely...but whats the difference with someone calling me a cracker and me calling them a nigger or a gook...there isnt one...sure maybe the black guy will get all pissed off and run home crying to his mommy but thats his problem not mine...im not a racist person but this double standard shit between blacks and whites is fucked up.

why is this so hard to understand? Actually, its only hard to understand...for people who dont TRY to understand it. Im not justifying calling someone a "cracker". You guys know im half white. But, that doesnt mean i let my race stand in the way of common sense. Any racial slurr thrown around by white people in THIS country, has more impact then a racial slurr thrown AT them. Its the same way, women can call men anything...and it isnt taken as harsh, but men cant go back at women the same way...or its sexism. White males created this, social behavior with past actions (and present even), and now are mad cus they have to live with it. Thats such a childish mindset. Racist attitudes coming from the top...always have more impact then racist words coming from the bottom. Like i said, neither of u will understand it...cus u chose not to. Ignorance is bliss. But regardless, the president is still a white male, most likely youre governor, senator, or whatever...is a white male. Chances are at least 70% of the people making any decisions in your state, are white males...but yet it bothers u so much that the word "nigger" has more impact then the word "cracker". lol u gotta be kidding...

it doesnt bother me at all...what bothers me is the double standard...as i said in my post with nothing but racial slurs...the only people that get offended by racial slurs are black people...if they would just stop caring about it and do like the rest of us and shrug it off and not give a shit then the world would be a hell of a lot better.

im assuming youre black, for u to be able to say how black people should just not care about racial slurs lol. I know black people that dont, just like i know mexicans, asians, whatever...that dont. But like i said, in this country...being a minority is a far different experience then being a white male. And for Black people, its even more different then other minorities. Mexicans, can still identify with Mexico. Asians, can identify with whatever Asian country they come from. Middle Eastern people, can identify with the country they come from. White people...Black people...only can identify with America. Black Americans are no longer "African", just as White Americans arent "European". When the country turns its back on other minorities (as it has before), they still have something to identify with. When the country turns its back on Black Americans (as it has before), then what? They should just live with it. Thats the mindset u have. "Just deal with it". Everybody is equal (i dunno if agree or not, just my opinion)...so if one particular group is bothered by something...more then another group, dont u think theres more to it then just...theyre being too sensitive. If we are all equal, then theres no such thing as TOO sensitive, because we would ALL react the same way...in that situation. Correct? Put yourself in someone elses shoes before u judge. Its easy to say what OTHERS should do, whats hard is to realize that u would probably do the same.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Casper on October 20, 2003, 11:17:25 PM
what i also dont get is why black ppl can call each other "niggaz" and then a white kid says it he gets his ass whooped... i mean they make it seem ok to say it... so if i got to one of my friends and go wuts up spic... and a white kid says wuts up spic can we kick his ass? and if a black person say wuts up cracker they didnt do shit wrong...

i got a story everybody sit down and listen

this was in 7th grade and we were talking about slavery and the teacher said back in the day nigger was a common word and they used it alot to degrade black ppl and the only reason its so bad now is because black ppl made a bigg deal about it and my best friend jamaal said so if it was the other way around would it be ok if i was a cop and said "pull over you cracker" and the teacher started bitching about how its different because whtie ppl wouldnt make a bigg deal about it i was like WTF??? im sure white ppl wouldnt want alot of black ppl calling them names either... but then i have noticed that white ppl dont really make a bigg deal about it but black ppl happen to make a big deal about it...
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 11:19:32 PM
man what i think is fucked up is the fact that people try to justify using cracker, nigger, chink, gook, spick, spearchucker, or any other shit like that by saying "oh well one doesnt have as much impact"...you know why cracker doesnt piss us off? because we're over shit! nobody gives a fuck what happened 2 hundered years ago...if you really want people to stop using the word nigger maybe black people should stop using it so much...otherwise just quit giving a fuck...nobody cares when black people say cracker...we just shrug it off and say OK...either shut the fuck up and live with it (and quit justifying any racial slurs) or stop using it entirely...but whats the difference with someone calling me a cracker and me calling them a nigger or a gook...there isnt one...sure maybe the black guy will get all pissed off and run home crying to his mommy but thats his problem not mine...im not a racist person but this double standard shit between blacks and whites is fucked up.

why is this so hard to understand? Actually, its only hard to understand...for people who dont TRY to understand it. Im not justifying calling someone a "cracker". You guys know im half white. But, that doesnt mean i let my race stand in the way of common sense. Any racial slurr thrown around by white people in THIS country, has more impact then a racial slurr thrown AT them. Its the same way, women can call men anything...and it isnt taken as harsh, but men cant go back at women the same way...or its sexism. White males created this, social behavior with past actions (and present even), and now are mad cus they have to live with it. Thats such a childish mindset. Racist attitudes coming from the top...always have more impact then racist words coming from the bottom. Like i said, neither of u will understand it...cus u chose not to. Ignorance is bliss. But regardless, the president is still a white male, most likely youre governor, senator, or whatever...is a white male. Chances are at least 70% of the people making any decisions in your state, are white males...but yet it bothers u so much that the word "nigger" has more impact then the word "cracker". lol u gotta be kidding...

it doesnt bother me at all...what bothers me is the double standard...as i said in my post with nothing but racial slurs...the only people that get offended by racial slurs are black people...if they would just stop caring about it and do like the rest of us and shrug it off and not give a shit then the world would be a hell of a lot better.

im assuming youre black, for u to be able to say how black people should just not care about racial slurs lol. I know black people that dont, just like i know mexicans, asians, whatever...that dont. But like i said, in this country...being a minority is a far different experience then being a white male. And for Black people, its even more different then other minorities. Mexicans, can still identify with Mexico. Asians, can identify with whatever Asian country they come from. Middle Eastern people, can identify with the country they come from. White people...Black people...only can identify with America. Black Americans are no longer "African", just as White Americans arent "European". When the country turns its back on other minorities (as it has before), they still have something to identify with. When the country turns its back on Black Americans (as it has before), then what? They should just live with it. Thats the mindset u have. "Just deal with it". Everybody is equal (i dunno if agree or not, just my opinion)...so if one particular group is bothered by something...more then another group, dont u think theres more to it then just...theyre being too sensitive. If we are all equal, then theres no such thing as TOO sensitive, because we would ALL react the same way...in that situation. Correct? Put yourself in someone elses shoes before u judge. Its easy to say what OTHERS should do, whats hard is to realize that u would probably do the same.

actually im white and im not judging im stating the facts...do you honestly think that jews and mexicans and whatnot have gon through less than black people...in this day & age they have all gone through the same shit...while there are racist white people there are racist blacks, racist mexicans, racist jews, racist arabs, racist smurfs, racist whatever the fuck else there are....and yet the only ones offended are the blacks..yes we are all equal...but getting all upset about it isnt showing equality very well now is it?
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: UnstoppableForce on October 20, 2003, 11:21:04 PM


my best friend jamaal said so if it was the other way around would it be ok if i was a cop and said "pull over you cracker" and the teacher started bitching about how its different because whtie ppl wouldnt make a bigg deal about it

How ironic...  she says white people don't make a big deal about it, yet she starts bitching...  ???
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Casper on October 20, 2003, 11:24:07 PM


my best friend jamaal said so if it was the other way around would it be ok if i was a cop and said "pull over you cracker" and the teacher started bitching about how its different because whtie ppl wouldnt make a bigg deal about it

How ironic...  she says white people don't make a big deal about it, yet she starts bitching...  ???

it was a guy and if u know him he is really fucking stupid we all use to clown his ass... he use to give us false information and give us answers to shit and it would be wrong... he really was an idiot i havent seen his santa clause ass in a long time...i hope he is dead he is the reason i gto sent to altrenative  >:(
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 11:36:07 PM
man what i think is fucked up is the fact that people try to justify using cracker, nigger, chink, gook, spick, spearchucker, or any other shit like that by saying "oh well one doesnt have as much impact"...you know why cracker doesnt piss us off? because we're over shit! nobody gives a fuck what happened 2 hundered years ago...if you really want people to stop using the word nigger maybe black people should stop using it so much...otherwise just quit giving a fuck...nobody cares when black people say cracker...we just shrug it off and say OK...either shut the fuck up and live with it (and quit justifying any racial slurs) or stop using it entirely...but whats the difference with someone calling me a cracker and me calling them a nigger or a gook...there isnt one...sure maybe the black guy will get all pissed off and run home crying to his mommy but thats his problem not mine...im not a racist person but this double standard shit between blacks and whites is fucked up.

why is this so hard to understand? Actually, its only hard to understand...for people who dont TRY to understand it. Im not justifying calling someone a "cracker". You guys know im half white. But, that doesnt mean i let my race stand in the way of common sense. Any racial slurr thrown around by white people in THIS country, has more impact then a racial slurr thrown AT them. Its the same way, women can call men anything...and it isnt taken as harsh, but men cant go back at women the same way...or its sexism. White males created this, social behavior with past actions (and present even), and now are mad cus they have to live with it. Thats such a childish mindset. Racist attitudes coming from the top...always have more impact then racist words coming from the bottom. Like i said, neither of u will understand it...cus u chose not to. Ignorance is bliss. But regardless, the president is still a white male, most likely youre governor, senator, or whatever...is a white male. Chances are at least 70% of the people making any decisions in your state, are white males...but yet it bothers u so much that the word "nigger" has more impact then the word "cracker". lol u gotta be kidding...

it doesnt bother me at all...what bothers me is the double standard...as i said in my post with nothing but racial slurs...the only people that get offended by racial slurs are black people...if they would just stop caring about it and do like the rest of us and shrug it off and not give a shit then the world would be a hell of a lot better.

im assuming youre black, for u to be able to say how black people should just not care about racial slurs lol. I know black people that dont, just like i know mexicans, asians, whatever...that dont. But like i said, in this country...being a minority is a far different experience then being a white male. And for Black people, its even more different then other minorities. Mexicans, can still identify with Mexico. Asians, can identify with whatever Asian country they come from. Middle Eastern people, can identify with the country they come from. White people...Black people...only can identify with America. Black Americans are no longer "African", just as White Americans arent "European". When the country turns its back on other minorities (as it has before), they still have something to identify with. When the country turns its back on Black Americans (as it has before), then what? They should just live with it. Thats the mindset u have. "Just deal with it". Everybody is equal (i dunno if agree or not, just my opinion)...so if one particular group is bothered by something...more then another group, dont u think theres more to it then just...theyre being too sensitive. If we are all equal, then theres no such thing as TOO sensitive, because we would ALL react the same way...in that situation. Correct? Put yourself in someone elses shoes before u judge. Its easy to say what OTHERS should do, whats hard is to realize that u would probably do the same.

actually im white and im not judging im stating the facts...do you honestly think that jews and mexicans and whatnot have gon through less than black people...in this day & age they have all gone through the same shit...while there are racist white people there are racist blacks, racist mexicans, racist jews, racist arabs, racist smurfs, racist whatever the fuck else there are....and yet the only ones offended are the blacks..yes we are all equal...but getting all upset about it isnt showing equality very well now is it?

seperate facts from opinions...

its not a competition in general, but in THIS country...i do think blacks have gone through way more then Jews have lol. As for other minorities...i already explained the difference. U can read it again in case u missed it, i dont wanna repeat everything. As for equality, youre turning equality into a competition. Youre saying, no matter whos gone through more struggle in this country...we should just all be happy. The guy sleeping next to a dumpster on Christmas, should be just as possitive as the guy with a million dollars in his bank account. Sure its easy to say, but youre not in that boat. Being a white male in this country, is basically a priveledge. Until u understand that, youll always judge others who have it worse...by saying, "they SHOULD do this...".
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 11:40:11 PM
90% of the time though if you're sleeping next to a dumpster on christmas is because of the choices you made...i would say yes that blacks have gone through more than jews...but they sure as hell havent gone through more than people from the middle east or mexico or hell even canada (we make fun of canadians for a lot)...im not talking about slavery im talking as far as prejudice and racism go...they've gone through just as much as we have...the only way the world will truly be equal is when people stop giving a fuck about words that mean nothing anymore and starting co-existing as humans...not as black people, white people, mexicans, etc...we are all people and thats how it should be.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on October 20, 2003, 11:52:16 PM
90% of the time though if you're sleeping next to a dumpster on christmas is because of the choices you made...i would say yes that blacks have gone through more than jews...but they sure as hell havent gone through more than people from the middle east or mexico or hell even canada (we make fun of canadians for a lot)...im not talking about slavery im talking as far as prejudice and racism go...they've gone through just as much as we have...the only way the world will truly be equal is when people stop giving a fuck about words that mean nothing anymore and starting co-existing as humans...not as black people, white people, mexicans, etc...we are all people and thats how it should be.

sounds peachy...but the worlds not perfect, and u cant tell people wha to be offended by..and not be offended by. And youre still trying to make comparisons, that really sound crazy lol. I dont think anyone in THIS country, has had it worse them Black people...EXCEPT Native Americans. And the reason u dont hear much from them, is cus there hardly IS any more lol. I mean, it isnt like u can make slaves out of people for generations...then oppress them for years, and years, and years...and then think they should just all off a sudden have the same possitive outlook on the country, as the people who have been ontop the WHOLE time. Like i said, u would do the same in their shoes...unless u dont agree in that whole "equality" thing i was talkin about. And u wouldnt care for someone else to tell u what should and should not bother u.
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: Don Breezio on October 20, 2003, 11:59:50 PM
90% of the time though if you're sleeping next to a dumpster on christmas is because of the choices you made...i would say yes that blacks have gone through more than jews...but they sure as hell havent gone through more than people from the middle east or mexico or hell even canada (we make fun of canadians for a lot)...im not talking about slavery im talking as far as prejudice and racism go...they've gone through just as much as we have...the only way the world will truly be equal is when people stop giving a fuck about words that mean nothing anymore and starting co-existing as humans...not as black people, white people, mexicans, etc...we are all people and thats how it should be.

sounds peachy...but the worlds not perfect, and u cant tell people wha to be offended by..and not be offended by. And youre still trying to make comparisons, that really sound crazy lol. I dont think anyone in THIS country, has had it worse them Black people...EXCEPT Native Americans. And the reason u dont hear much from them, is cus there hardly IS any more lol. I mean, it isnt like u can make slaves out of people for generations...then oppress them for years, and years, and years...and then think they should just all off a sudden have the same possitive outlook on the country, as the people who have been ontop the WHOLE time. Like i said, u would do the same in their shoes...unless u dont agree in that whole "equality" thing i was talkin about. And u wouldnt care for someone else to tell u what should and should not bother u.

you're misunderstanding my point...im not talking about black people in history...im talking about black people in the last 30 years or so...nobody on this board was a slave, nobody living was a slave in fact...and yet we still get blamed for that...i never made anyone a slave and yet i have to take this double standard bullshit because of some shit that happened 200 years ago...thats messed up. as far as the way different races have been treated over the last 30 years or so no, there is no difference among the races...we've all been treated the same. there is racism in all, there is a few people in each that make the whole race look bad...nobody has been a slave, i'd say nobody has been beatin for the color of their skin but thats not true...people have been...but not just one race...every race has had its share of violence against it. the kkk has become more or less obsolete so its not like black people have to worry about that. there really isnt shit for them to worry about anymore thats any different from us but yet you get some of them who think that the white man is the devil (like dead prez for example) because of some shit that happened 200 years ago...thats fucked up and i know you agree with me on that...you'd be crazy to disagree with that.

as for my comment on dead prez i would like to clarify that i enjoy their music but yes they are racist  ;)
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 21, 2003, 03:45:22 PM
u kno what tone,  enough of your self rightous bull shit.  you dont kno me so go fuck ya self.  an about the asian lady i remember sayin i felt bad about what i said an really regreted it.  an lets jus forget about how i was the only white kid in one of my classes to stick up for a spanish kid that they kept callin a spic.  go fuck ya self im done arguing with you

lol *applause for Tom*!!

ive heard white people accused of being racist say..."but ive had black friends..." before also. Im glad u felt BAD about what u said about tha asian lady. But feeling bad about it, doesnt matter...because youd do it again in a heartbeat. So how bad do u really feel?

actually i wouldnt say it again an fuck you for sayin i would do it again in a heartbeat when u dont even kno me.  an the word chink.  You called me a racist for sayin it but its like the word cracker.  its a fucked up term to be using but it isnt on the same level as nigger but you dont make a big deal when the word cracker is used
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: AWS SS 88 on October 21, 2003, 06:00:56 PM
i get into a lot of your posts somehow tom lolol

Cuz you're a cracker

by your definition of a cracker,than yeah i guess i am
Title: Re:The word "Cracker"
Post by: pappy on October 21, 2003, 07:12:42 PM
my bad tone i made my last post b4 i could read ur pm.  i agree to your terms its all gravy lol