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Title: Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 20, 2003, 06:07:00 PM
Did ya'll see any problem in Xzibit or Eminem joining in on Dre's beef with JD, just because of affiliation through Dre?

If so, why?

Did you have a problem with Fatal or Yukmouth dissing 50 Cent, because of affiliation through Lil Jay?


My take on it. Em and X were just standing up for Dre. I had no problem with it. Fatal and Yuk are standing up for their boss, same thing. But, a lot of people hated on Fatal and Yuk for doing it. They knocked them for dissing through affiliation. Those same people knocking them, they were the same people I seen co-signing X and Em. I wonder why....
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 20, 2003, 07:03:39 PM
Silence huh? Yet another bias by the Shady/Aftermath groupies..uh dickriders..i mean fans.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Lincoln on October 20, 2003, 07:28:29 PM
Agreed with what you say. It's another double standard. It's all good if you stick up for Dre but if you stick up for J Prince, it's dickriding/hating? Fuck that.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: D1G1T4L on October 20, 2003, 07:34:59 PM
am i missing something here? JD said no one can produce better than him or do what he does, offended dr dre and timbaland

what did 50 cent do to offend J Prince?
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 20, 2003, 07:39:22 PM
am i missing something here? JD said no one can produce better than him or do what he does, offended dr dre and timbaland

what did 50 cent do to offend J Prince?
50 was labeled as a snitch, J.Prince hates a snitch, apparently.

C'mon Shady fans, let's hear the reasoning this time.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: The Watcher on October 20, 2003, 07:45:08 PM
which Shady/Aftermath fans are you talking to/about? I never mentioned anything from any beef, cause frankly beef in hiphop is stale.

I have no problem with anyone from any side jumping into any beef aslong as they can give a reason

hows that SGV? sorry im bias  :'(
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 20, 2003, 07:50:22 PM
which Shady/Aftermath fans are you talking to/about? I never mentioned anything from any beef, cause frankly beef in hiphop is stale.

I have no problem with anyone from any side jumping into any beef aslong as they can give a reason

hows that SGV? sorry im bias  :'(
But, a lot of people hated on Fatal and Yuk for doing it. They knocked them for dissing through affiliation. Those same people knocking them, they were the same people I seen co-signing X and Em.
If that is you, then I'm talking about you. If not, keep it moving.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Lincoln on October 20, 2003, 07:53:18 PM
JD never said he was a better producer than Dre. Everybody twisted JD's words around like crazy. What he said was that Dre, Timbo & Diddy couldn't do everything he did. That wasn't just a reference to production, he meant being multitalented (Producing, writing his own lyrics [none of those 3 do that], ghost-writing, running a successful business, etc).
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: The Watcher on October 20, 2003, 07:53:19 PM
i aim to please
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 20, 2003, 07:59:06 PM
JD never said he was a better producer than Dre. Everybody twisted JD's words around like crazy. What he said was that Dre, Timbo & Diddy couldn't do everything he did. That wasn't just a reference to production, he meant being multitalented (Producing, writing his own lyrics [none of those 3 do that], ghost-writing, running a successful business, etc).
Pretty much. JD IS super talented. He wrote and produced a multiplatinum album when he was a teenager. That's a feat very few producers can say. Look at now. JD is everywhere. He was just in money trouble last year, now he's back to balling. Signed a new deal, dropped Anthony Hamilton, Bonecrusher, Da Brat, Youngbloodz, produced Murphy Lee's single and Marques Houstons next single. Not to mention his work with up and coming artists. True, he's not pushing as much units as Aftermath, but he's doing a lot and probably is banking as much as Dre.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Lincoln on October 20, 2003, 08:02:43 PM
JD never said he was a better producer than Dre. Everybody twisted JD's words around like crazy. What he said was that Dre, Timbo & Diddy couldn't do everything he did. That wasn't just a reference to production, he meant being multitalented (Producing, writing his own lyrics [none of those 3 do that], ghost-writing, running a successful business, etc).
Pretty much. JD IS super talented. He wrote and produced a multiplatinum album when he was a teenager. That's a feat very few producers can say. Look at now. JD is everywhere. He was just in money trouble last year, now he's back to balling. Signed a new deal, dropped Anthony Hamilton, Bonecrusher, Da Brat, Youngbloodz, produced Murphy Lee's single and Marques Houstons next single. Not to mention his work with up and coming artists. True, he's not pushing as much units as Aftermath, but he's doing a lot and probably is banking as much as Dre.

Word. JD has been a millionare since he was like 18. That's crazy.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Jome on October 20, 2003, 08:26:03 PM
am i missing something here? JD said no one can produce better than him or do what he does, offended dr dre and timbaland

what did 50 cent do to offend J Prince?
50 was labeled as a snitch, J.Prince hates a snitch, apparently.



LoL, great logic.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Halu Sination on October 20, 2003, 08:34:16 PM
are you talking about this board specifically? because if anything, i see more people sticking up for yuk, where as xzibit and eminem are constantly called dre dickriders...
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 20, 2003, 08:35:34 PM
are you talking about this board specifically? because if anything, i see more people sticking up for yuk, where as xzibit and eminem are constantly called dre dickriders...
I've been one of the few sticking up for Yuk. I rarely see anyone say Yuk was justified. I do remember people justifying X and Em.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Code Blue on October 20, 2003, 11:16:11 PM
Did ya'll see any problem in Xzibit or Eminem joining in on Dre's beef with JD, just because of affiliation through Dre?

If so, why?

Did you have a problem with Fatal or Yukmouth dissing 50 Cent, because of affiliation through Lil Jay?


My take on it. Em and X were just standing up for Dre. I had no problem with it. Fatal and Yuk are standing up for their boss, same thing. But, a lot of people hated on Fatal and Yuk for doing it. They knocked them for dissing through affiliation. Those same people knocking them, they were the same people I seen co-signing X and Em. I wonder why....

1. Of course I'm down with homies gettin' your bac, but I mean JD? If JD brough in Bow Wow or whatever then I'd see where it was aight. But if it's just 1 man then Dre didn't need either Eminem or Xzibit.

2. Fatal and Yuk are both hypocrits and fools, so it doesn't matter. I still love they music though.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Code Blue on October 20, 2003, 11:19:00 PM
JD never said he was a better producer than Dre. Everybody twisted JD's words around like crazy. What he said was that Dre, Timbo & Diddy couldn't do everything he did. That wasn't just a reference to production, he meant being multitalented (Producing, writing his own lyrics [none of those 3 do that], ghost-writing, running a successful business, etc).
Pretty much. JD IS super talented. He wrote and produced a multiplatinum album when he was a teenager. That's a feat very few producers can say.

I just noticed this. How are you gonna say that sales don't mean anything in 1 thread, then go and say that JD is talented just cusz his album went mulit-patinum in this thread?
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: UnstoppableForce on October 20, 2003, 11:28:25 PM
^^^  :D :D
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: D1G1T4L on October 20, 2003, 11:36:43 PM
am i missing something here? JD said no one can produce better than him or do what he does, offended dr dre and timbaland

what did 50 cent do to offend J Prince?
50 was labeled as a snitch, J.Prince hates a snitch, apparently.



LoL, great logic.

Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: D1G1T4L on October 20, 2003, 11:38:27 PM
am i missing something here? JD said no one can produce better than him or do what he does, offended dr dre and timbaland

what did 50 cent do to offend J Prince?
50 was labeled as a snitch, J.Prince hates a snitch, apparently.

C'mon Shady fans, let's hear the reasoning this time.

i am not shady fan but damn lol you got stellar logic (being sarcastic in case you cant understand)
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Code Blue on October 21, 2003, 12:55:19 AM
am i missing something here? JD said no one can produce better than him or do what he does, offended dr dre and timbaland

what did 50 cent do to offend J Prince?
50 was labeled as a snitch, J.Prince hates a snitch, apparently.

C'mon Shady fans, let's hear the reasoning this time.

i am not shady fan but damn lol you got stellar logic (being sarcastic in case you cant understand)

Real shit. I agree that Dre and TImbaland took what JD said too personally, but J. Prince's reasoning for beef is so stupid and idiotic. 50 Cent was "labeled" a snitch. No one knows for sure. J is just jealous that 50 is selling millions. It's quite pathetic actually. Anyways, I don't really get why SGV started this arguement in the first place.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 21, 2003, 06:24:12 PM


1. Of course I'm down with homies gettin' your bac, but I mean JD? If JD brough in Bow Wow or whatever then I'd see where it was aight. But if it's just 1 man then Dre didn't need either Eminem or Xzibit.

2. Fatal and Yuk are both hypocrits and fools, so it doesn't matter. I still love they music though.

LMAO @ Bow Wow. Man, you think Xzibit or Em are needed to take out a 14 year old boy who doesn't write his own rhymes?

How are Fatal and Yuk hypocrites? I'd like to hear this...


I just noticed this. How are you gonna say that sales don't mean anything in 1 thread, then go and say that JD is talented just cusz his album went mulit-patinum in this thread?

Pretty much. JD IS super talented. He wrote and produced a multiplatinum album when he was a teenager. That's a feat very few producers can say.
That's why. Sales don't determine skill, at all, but it does determine business sense. Dre and Timbo can't say they were teenagers who brought out a group, produced and wrote their record and it went multiplatinum.



i am not shady fan but damn lol you got stellar logic (being sarcastic in case you cant understand)
Tell that to J.Prince, that's his "stellar logic" not mine.

Anyways, I don't really get why SGV started this arguement in the first place.
My take on it. Em and X were just standing up for Dre. I had no problem with it. Fatal and Yuk are standing up for their boss, same thing. But, a lot of people hated on Fatal and Yuk for doing it. They knocked them for dissing through affiliation. Those same people knocking them, they were the same people I seen co-signing X and Em. I wonder why....
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: The Watcher on October 21, 2003, 06:27:32 PM
wasnt it Yuk who dissed the shit out of Dre in some interview, then in another interview was sayin how Dre doesn't help other acts from the west blow up?

dude needs to make up his mind on wether he wants Dre to work with him or not
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 21, 2003, 06:50:34 PM
wasnt it Yuk who dissed the shit out of Dre in some interview, then in another interview was sayin how Dre doesn't help other acts from the west blow up?

dude needs to make up his mind on wether he wants Dre to work with him or not
I don't remember Yuk dissing Dre. Yuk did say Dre needs to help out the Coast more. And he was right.

People call Dre and Snoop the Kings Of The West. How are they the Kings if they're not leading their Kingdoms?
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: The Watcher on October 21, 2003, 07:23:00 PM
still, how is Yuk gonna diss the shit out of 50 then expect Dre & Snoop to help him? People need to stand on their own 2 feet, shit, Dre & Snoop will be retiring in a few years what are people gonna do then? They aint gonna be around forever
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 21, 2003, 07:54:51 PM
Why should Snoop care what Yuk thinks about 50? Is Snoop, 50? No. I could see Dre caring, but that's beside the point. Yuk isn't saying HE wants Dre to work with him. He's saying that Dre needs to with the West Coast more. Since they are leaving the game soon, they need to help get more artists up into the mainstream. Without the Dre/Snoop affiliation no artist from the West is blowing up, and that's real. It's all politics.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: The Watcher on October 21, 2003, 07:58:13 PM
DPG-Unit? if someone was dissin my homie i would not be acknowledgin his ass. they are probably not homies, but 50 is probably the biggest artist in hiphop right now which could be profitable for everyone involved with him, so Snoop aint gonna go putting that in jeopardy any time soon
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 21, 2003, 09:14:36 PM
DPG-Unit? if someone was dissin my homie i would not be acknowledgin his ass. they are probably not homies, but 50 is probably the biggest artist in hiphop right now which could be profitable for everyone involved with him, so Snoop aint gonna go putting that in jeopardy any time soon
They're co-workers, and Snoop just sees 50 as $$$. Everyone does. That's why he's everywhere. But, Snoop is a grown man, so is 50. Let 50 handle his own beefs. 50 shouldn't expect Snoop to stand up for him and vice versa.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Code Blue on October 21, 2003, 10:13:55 PM
@ SGV: Both Yukmouth and Fatal use the same 2pac double standards that you claim the Pac fans on this MB use. Fatal is always dissing Pac immitators, and saying how Pac would never ride with so - and - so, yet he rides with one of the biggest Pac wannabes in the game. He's also apparently coo' with Tha Realest, another big Pac wannabe. Yuk does the same. He disses Master P saying how he is a pac wannabe, yet he's coo' with both Fatal and Tha Realest. Like I always say, all of this foolish beefing seriously needs to stop. Dudes just trying to make a name for theyselves by putting others down. That's pathetic. They need to grow up.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: D1G1T4L on October 22, 2003, 01:00:03 AM
@ SGV: Both Yukmouth and Fatal use the same 2pac double standards that you claim the Pac fans on this MB use. Fatal is always dissing Pac immitators, and saying how Pac would never ride with so - and - so, yet he rides with one of the biggest Pac wannabes in the game. He's also apparently coo' with Tha Realest, another big Pac wannabe. Yuk does the same. He disses Master P saying how he is a pac wannabe, yet he's coo' with both Fatal and Tha Realest. Like I always say, all of this foolish beefing seriously needs to stop. Dudes just trying to make a name for theyselves by putting others down. That's pathetic. They need to grow up.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: SGV on October 22, 2003, 07:33:29 PM
@ SGV: Both Yukmouth and Fatal use the same 2pac double standards that you claim the Pac fans on this MB use. Fatal is always dissing Pac immitators, and saying how Pac would never ride with so - and - so, yet he rides with one of the biggest Pac wannabes in the game. He's also apparently coo' with Tha Realest, another big Pac wannabe. Yuk does the same. He disses Master P saying how he is a pac wannabe, yet he's coo' with both Fatal and Tha Realest. Like I always say, all of this foolish beefing seriously needs to stop. Dudes just trying to make a name for theyselves by putting others down. That's pathetic. They need to grow up.
That's true, but this thread isn't about that. It's about certain people, they know who they are, co-signing Xzibit and Em joining in a beef against a mediocre lyricist, but downing two people for joining a beef against a whole crew.
Title: Re:Few Questions For Shady/Aftermath Fans
Post by: Bomb-AŽ on October 24, 2003, 02:40:28 AM
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50 was labeled as a snitch, J.Prince hates a snitch, apparently.

C'mon Shady fans, let's hear the reasoning this time.
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so why's he hating on 50. its not like he's the only snitch. the reason he picked on 50 is hes hot right now.



peace