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Title: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 15, 2002, 04:18:51 PM
ok i'm back.... its 3:20am

(i've avoided spoilers btw)

they didn't fuck it up.. the pace doesnt slow all the way through - with several storylines running at once... its gonna take a couple more viewings to soak it all in.
but OMG... its dopeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: closetothalimit on May 15, 2002, 07:39:13 PM
a very good star wars movie
good to see Yoda doin what we all knew he was capable of.
george lucas has gotten the series back on track wit this one and it leaves u wanting episode 3.
peace.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on May 15, 2002, 07:59:44 PM
I can neva get interested in Star Wars....I dunno why....
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: bez on May 16, 2002, 05:58:04 AM
SOund cool, I am glad you thought it was good.  I love star wars but I think the older 1's r better,

Let me get this right, Episode 1, 2 and 3 are set b4 the original star wars, Empire strikes back and return of the jedi yet they still have better weapons, I mean that double light sabre dauth maul has is fuckin amazing
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 16, 2002, 06:07:23 AM
yeah thats right... in the later films the sabre is almost a forgotten art since we only see vader+obi+luke use them.. in these 'earlier' films there are lots of types
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: bez on May 16, 2002, 06:15:42 AM
they  only have them shitty light sabre swords in the later films but in these 1's they have boss 1's like, I think they fucked that up a bit, the weapons should of been worse than the laters films
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Murrow on May 16, 2002, 08:41:32 AM
It was dope.

For the people who saw it...

I thought Hayden Christianson did a good job.  I just thought Anakin was gonna fight Dooku a but more.  Seems like he got the second light saber and then he got his ass beat.

Thank God for Yoda who saved their asses.

Natalie Portman just kept getting hotter and hotter everytime she changed dresses.

Can't wait for Episode III
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: elneckio on May 16, 2002, 08:42:16 AM
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but OMG... its dopeeeeeeee

^ YUP

the only bad thing about it is I gotta wait for Episode 3 (2005) now to see how Lucas can tie all his storylines togther.......
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 16, 2002, 09:49:34 AM
u heard my proposed ep3 script on in work earlier.. based around what we know has to happen  ;D
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 16, 2002, 09:56:01 AM
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It was dope.

For the people who saw it...

I thought Hayden Christianson did a good job.

yeah true.. i was very surprised by that. (even if he did get to snog natalie portman hehe)

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 I just thought Anakin was gonna fight Dooku a but more.  Seems like he got the second light saber and then he got his ass beat.

I hate Dooku, worst character.. even worse than Jah Jah in ep2  :o

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Thank God for Yoda who saved their asses.

people started cheering when Yoda swaggered in!

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Natalie Portman just kept getting hotter and hotter everytime she changed dresses.

yup yup


Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Murrow on May 16, 2002, 10:57:16 AM
Back to Yoda going hardcore:

There was like 10 people @ this "glitch screening" I went to last night...When Yoda pulled out that saber and started flipping like a mutherfucker I was fuckin laughin my ass off.  He could of easily killed that Dooku bitch.

You can tell Palpatine is already leaning towards the darkside.  Remember in the movie when they said they found out all the Emperors are being contolled by the darkside?  Well. I thin Palpatine is almost there.

Cannot wait to see Anakin become Vador etc etc.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 16, 2002, 11:01:30 AM
Palpatine and Darth Sidious are the same person  :o
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Murrow on May 16, 2002, 11:08:36 AM

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Palpatine and Darth Sidious are the same person  :o


Yup, they are.

Back to G'd up Yoda...it was funny how frail he looked, and he had a cain too.  LoL, then he does a 180 and goes...SURPRISE!
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: TheSheriff on May 16, 2002, 01:47:59 PM
Second only to ROTJ.

And sorry, but Natalie Portman is beautiful y'all...That backless dress...Aaaaaagh...*sobs from sexual frustration*

On CNN tonight: Even though just last Monday Owen had his heart broken, he is already on the way to have it broken again, this time by a fine-ass girl round the corner from his house.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Murrow on May 16, 2002, 01:55:00 PM
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And sorry, but Natalie Portman is beautiful y'all...That backless dress...Aaaaaagh...*sobs from sexual frustration*


I agree, I agree.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 16, 2002, 04:24:58 PM
I liked it alot.  Unfortunately, I read a review and saw the YODA part coming, I wish I wouldn't have known what was gonna happen.  Even so, when he came creeping down the hallway, the place went NUTS!  They got a little Yoda chant going, and everybody was clapping.  When he pulled his robe away to show  his light saber, everybody freaked out again.  While he was fighting, people were screaming "OH SH*T!!!!"... it was pretty wild.  Applause got going at the beginning, and at the end of the movie, too.  The line that broke everybody up was when Obi Wan told Anakin  "You're gonna be the Death of Me".  

BTW, I never had a problem with the first movie! I thought it was decent, Jar Jar didn't bother me at all.  

And also, Palpatine is already evil.  The dark side clouded yoda's mind because the dark side was standing right next to him in the assembly chamber.  There are always 2 in the darkside, a teacher, and an apprentice, and that combo in this movie was already Sidious, and Dooku.  Dooku will remain the apprentice until Anakin takes his place in episode III.  

And nito, the reason you walked right in on opening day last year, is because Episode I came out everywhere else in the world 3 years ago.  You musta caught a reissue.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Murrow on May 17, 2002, 07:33:35 AM
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And nito, the reason you walked right in on opening day last year, is because Episode I came out everywhere else in the world 3 years ago.  You musta caught a reissue.


OH sorry.  I saw it in May of '99, the day it dropped.  And I saw Ep. II before it even came out for the public.

Pretty tight.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on May 17, 2002, 03:01:54 PM
Yoda kicks ass. Loved the flick.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 17, 2002, 06:43:40 PM
YODA is the motherfuckin' G.O.A.T.! HAHA! That shit had me excited like a lil' kid and shit. This movie is waaaaaay better than Episode 1. Great movie. I might watch it again.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: King-Suge on May 17, 2002, 07:56:02 PM
I give the movie a 4/10.  The first hour and half are brutally boring and the actors lack chemistry.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 18, 2002, 12:12:28 AM
I'd give it a 9 outta 10, but I'll admit, the acting wasn't top.  Anakin kinda annoyed me, actually, the way he kept talking all dreamy.  WTH.  And natalie portman did kinda crappy in a few parts too... most of it was probably the strange lines they had to say, though.   The love scene was kinda stupid, in my opinion, "IF you're suffering like me, please tell me" Please.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: LAZY on May 19, 2002, 02:49:49 PM
did ne1 else notice u can c natilie portmans nipples when there in the ship on tatooine?......... lol and i laughed my ass off when that monster thing ripped her shirt so u can c her belly ..lol... but yeah Yodas tight, Anikins an evil muthafucca hes cool but it pissed me off when they didnt show him killing all the tusken raiders or whut ever the fucc those things r
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 19, 2002, 11:01:10 PM
hahah u can see em quite a few times.. you have much to learn  ;D
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Head Honcho on May 20, 2002, 12:46:45 AM
Saw it last night  -  some tight ish eventhough it bored the hell outta me sometimes and was hella corny. WTF was up with that shit with his momma why the hell was she abducted by those ? (can't remember what they were), held alive for a month all tied up and shit and then die when Anakin comes to save ??? and shit could those puns/jokes that 3po kept sayin be any more annoying. I'd give it a 8/10 - but thats because of that mega war between the droids and the clones/jedi and that ill fight between yoda and dooku   :o :o :o
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 20, 2002, 12:57:15 AM
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WTF was up with that shit with his momma why the hell was she abducted by those ? (can't remember what they were), held alive for a month all tied up and shit and then die when Anakin comes to save ???



they're tuskan raiders, the same ones luke gets beat by in ep4.

the 'mum' story shows how anakin missed her, and her murder and anger over it tips him towards the darkside, even though he feels remorse he loses his cool - un-jedi like... yoda would say 'hate leads to anger, anger leads to suffering... powerful the dark side is' hehe
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Head Honcho on May 20, 2002, 01:01:32 AM
Yeah 'seer I understood that much, but I just can't see what motive the tuskan raiders had? did she do something to them? were they needing a good cook? a sex-slave maybe? I didn't get their motivation for that act - esp. not the fact that she was kept alive for a month
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 20, 2002, 01:28:01 AM
anakin called the tuskan raiders animals.

i don't think they're that intelligent - probably used for sex but she'd been beaten badly too
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 20, 2002, 06:59:55 AM
I loved the movie, but I also thought that story was a little sloppy.  What are the odds that she would die within 2 minutes of him finding her, after 10 years?   Come on now.  I'm sure they're trying to say that she stayed alive long enough to see him, then died upon seeing her son alive and fine.  

I was mad too, that they cut the scene out.  Supposedly, originally, they showed him run through the camp and kill everyone.  I guess it works better that they didn't, but it would have been a good excuse to show what he would become as Darth... he could have ran through and just showed a blinding rage, and show off that he's an excellent swordsman (didn't get a chance to show much later, really).  Oh well, I see both sides, that would have been a tough, tough call to edit that scene.  Sometimes I'm not good at editing stuff down.  I always want to put everything in, that's why my posts are so long.

I also, also agree that the acting was corny in some parts.  C3PO didn't bother me, because he's corny anyways.  I just watched ep. 4 today, and I wish they'd calm him down a little bit like at the beginning of that movie.  He sounded all logical, and soft spoken.  

I think the good parts were so good, though, that it deserves a 9 outta 10.  I'm gonna go see it again today with my little brother.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Murrow on May 20, 2002, 08:40:11 AM
Man, I was just reading up on some news for Ep. III and this shit is gonna be scary.

Looks like Hayden Christianson will reprise his role as Anakin and dawn the Vadar suit!   :o

Yup, and also Ewan McGregor said the battle atop the volcano with with Anakin and Obi Wan will be the greatest choreographed fight sequence in the history of filming.

Basically, this story will revolve around the demise of the Jedi, rise of the Empire and the birth of Liea and Luke along with Vadar.

Also, Lucas wants this to be the greatest SW film of the 6 since it will be the last.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 20, 2002, 08:54:51 AM
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Ewan McGregor said the battle atop the volcano with with Anakin and Obi Wan will be the greatest choreographed fight sequence in the history of filming.


help my pants are sticky
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: elneckio on May 20, 2002, 08:56:39 AM
Now lets all calm down theres approx 1092 days to go !!  :'(
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: bez on May 20, 2002, 08:58:12 AM
I think there will be more made tho.  

I wanna see a Goonies 2..
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 20, 2002, 03:13:22 PM
I just watched it again, one interesting point I noticed...

In the 1st episode, the poster showed anakin as a kid, standing outside a hut on Tatooine, and his shadow was darth vader's silhouette.  In the 2nd episode, when he runs outside to find his mom, he's standing in front of a hut on Tatooine, and Padme runs out to talk to him before he runs off on the speeder.  They don't show them, and only show their silhouettes talking on the side of the hut, and Anakin's is Darth vader's silouette... his head looks like Vader's helmet, and padme's silhouette leans over and gives him a hug before he leaves.   When they show him talking to the sand people (in front of their vehicles, asking where the raiders are), it's dusk, and again he has Vader's silhouette, he's wearing a long cape, etc.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 20, 2002, 06:20:20 PM
The biggest problem I had with the movie was they killed my homie JANGO FETT so easily! I wish there was a longer fight scene between him and Mace Windu. That shit lasted like 30 seconds. LOL! I never knew the Fetts were Pacific Islanders either.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: LAZY on May 20, 2002, 07:27:08 PM
The biggest problem I had with the movie was they killed my homie JANGO FETT so easily! I wish there was a longer fight scene between him and Mace Windu. That shit lasted like 30 seconds. LOL! I never knew the Fetts were Pacific Islanders either.
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yeah that pissed me off 2 that jango didnt even fight 4 hiz life or whut ever i wuz like DAMM when he got hiz head chopped off........ yeah i alwayz thought fetts were robot or some deformed shit...... plus i heard years ago he wuz all burned and had 2 wear the boba fett suit so i dont know
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: truemaster on May 20, 2002, 07:37:23 PM
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I just watched it again, one interesting point I noticed...

In the 1st episode, the poster showed anakin as a kid, standing outside a hut on Tatooine, and his shadow was darth vader's silhouette.  In the 2nd episode, when he runs outside to find his mom, he's standing in front of a hut on Tatooine, and Padme runs out to talk to him before he runs off on the speeder.  They don't show them, and only show their silhouettes talking on the side of the hut, and Anakin's is Darth vader's silouette... his head looks like Vader's helmet, and padme's silhouette leans over and gives him a hug before he leaves.   When they show him talking to the sand people (in front of their vehicles, asking where the raiders are), it's dusk, and again he has Vader's silhouette, he's wearing a long cape, etc.


That was tight, I caught that right away when I saw it. Lucas always knows how to throw in cool stuff like that.

Anyways I was thinking about how Episode 3 ends. Portmans character supposedly gives birth to Luke and Leia at the very end of the movie, which means we won't see her character killed off in the prequel trilogy. Since Leia remembers her mom(Luke and Leia talk about this in ROFTJ) that means she has to die offscreen between Episode 3 and 4 which I think will be kinda weird. Just thought I'd throw that idea out there.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 20, 2002, 07:39:21 PM
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The biggest problem I had with the movie was they killed my homie JANGO FETT so easily! I wish there was a longer fight scene between him and Mace Windu. That shit lasted like 30 seconds. LOL! I never knew the Fetts were Pacific Islanders either.
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yeah that pissed me off 2 that jango didnt even fight 4 hiz life or whut ever i wuz like DAMM when he got hiz head chopped off........ yeah i alwayz thought fetts were robot or some deformed shit...... plus i heard years ago he wuz all burned and had 2 wear the boba fett suit so i dont know


Boba' might be burned... this was Jango.  
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: elneckio on May 21, 2002, 09:09:04 AM
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I just watched it again, one interesting point I noticed...

In the 1st episode, the poster showed anakin as a kid, standing outside a hut on Tatooine, and his shadow was darth vader's silhouette.  In the 2nd episode, when he runs outside to find his mom, he's standing in front of a hut on Tatooine, and Padme runs out to talk to him before he runs off on the speeder.  They don't show them, and only show their silhouettes talking on the side of the hut, and Anakin's is Darth vader's silouette... his head looks like Vader's helmet, and padme's silhouette leans over and gives him a hug before he leaves.   When they show him talking to the sand people (in front of their vehicles, asking where the raiders are), it's dusk, and again he has Vader's silhouette, he's wearing a long cape, etc.

Didn't notice that second one.... good excuse to go to the cinema again ;)  well spotted Darth !
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Don Seer on May 21, 2002, 09:18:31 AM
i noticed that one.

there was an advert for ep1 with the ickle anakin along the same lines
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Murrow on May 21, 2002, 09:43:32 AM
Here are some crazy things that many heads are saying will happen in Episode III.

Anakin will kill Mac Windu as Vadar, but then many people say Bobba will kill him since Mace killed his father Jengo.

Then there is the whole conspiracy that Dooku is Anakin's father.  We know that  they say Ankain has no father, that he is a prophecy and is immaculate.  But, many people have been speculating that Anakin will face the same decision that Luke faced with Sidious in Episode 6.

Luke was tempted to kill Sidious so that he can turn to the darkside and rule as Vadar's apprentice.  Luke made the right decision and did not do it.  Vadar then stepped in.

Anakin makes the wrong decision and turns to the dark side.

Now, there is also conspiracy that Palpatine is Anakin's father.  Back when they discovered cloning, Palpatine cloned himself and sent one of his clones to Tatooine where is would impregnate Shmi Skywalker and pass along the Force to Anakin.  The other Palpatine stays with the Republic to take over the Empire.  This is why Palpatine saves Anakin and puts the suit after falling into the Volcanic pit.

Everything seems to mirror the original triology.

Then they is argument on when or if Padme dies.  Many people say she lives, and at the end we wee baby Luke & Leia being given away.  Other people says she dies somehow.

Here's a lil something to get yo blood boiling...

After the evil of Palpatine has been revealed, and everyone knows what he's about now (including Anakin), a confused and scared Anakin is told by Palpatine, "Anakin, I am your father.". And Anakin, like Luke, becomes very afraid and very angry...only Anakin GIVES IN to it, unlike Luke.

And perhaps, Anakin at first tries to attack Palpatine...but old Palpy holds him at bay with a little Force lightening (not enough to kill him...just to show him how powerful he is...and how powerful Anakin could become...). And Anakin, having grown restless with the Jedi, his mother dying, etc., begins to accept Palpatine.

Later, Anakin, now knowing where the REAL power and is, starts to have enough of the Jedi and their slow ways...and more precisely, Obi Wan and his lectures. One day, Anakine loses his cool, and gets into a horrific battle with his Master...and loses. Badly injured, Anakin is saved when Palpatine has some of his newly Imperial scientists outfit him with life-supporting machinery and armor.



Some dude @ TheForce.net posted this as a suggestion.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: elneckio on May 21, 2002, 10:47:30 AM
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Bobba will kill him since Mace killed his father Jengo.

That would make a lot of sense.  The other stuff is interesting too, Mr Lucas is a very cruel man making us wait 3 years to find all this out  :o
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 21, 2002, 11:48:19 AM
I don't like the idea of Anakin's father being revealed at all.  


My main reason is, because I have a shred of hope that the reason Anakin killed Sidious in the Jedi, was because of the love he had for his son.  If Sidious was his father, that means he killed his dad to save his son.  I'd rather believe he killed a false family member to save a true family member.  I think the story works much better that way; he attacked Sidious after Sidious was going to kill his son.
Title: Re: Episode 2.. the verdict!
Post by: Trauma-san on May 21, 2002, 11:49:38 AM
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That would make a lot of sense.  The other stuff is interesting too, Mr Lucas is a very cruel man making us wait 3 years to find all this out  :o


In recent interviews, George Lucas has said that he thinks people that get mad about him waiting 20 years to finish the first trilogy ought to think about how he's had to wait 30 years to do the same thing.  Peace`