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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: smoke562 on October 31, 2003, 08:59:54 PM
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i think its time for them to leave snoop's label.
and soopafly has definately paid his dues.
coz i dont see snoop havin any plans of releasing their albums any time soon, if not at all. i think, if they can find a great deal to release an album on some major label, then i think they should take it straight away.
coz i'd rather see them release something before snoop the fake pimp gets the idea to release their album in 3 years.
daz said before that once he releases his album on sosodef/arista , that daz will be getting his own distributing deal with arista. kronik was sayin how daz was trying to convince soopafly to come to arista once daz gets the distro deal with arista. i think they should also pick up e-white , and get him to release an album aswell. that'd be real cool, and we'd hear dope soopafly & daz beats on e-white's album.
and also by them leaving snoop's label, does not mean that their relationship with snoop is gone,.. they can still have snoop helpin out with some of the doggystyle producers, and let snoop feature on 1 track on each album.
anyways,... what do you think....
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I agree! Soopafly & White ain't gonna make any noise on Doggystyle. Soopa could easily blow up without Snoop imo, he just needs to get his name out. Drop a mixtape or an EP.
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soopaflys wasting his time on doggystyle producing latoyia williams cd, and we all know thats not gonna sell that much regardless of how good it is. soopa desirves to release a real lp for once. i also think it would be a better move for e white to drop a solo cd rather than blacc and blue. soopafly, e white and bad azz are the future of dpg.
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You see this with every label where the CEO is the star of the label. Because they're so egotistic they will release 2 or 3 solo albums before other artists get a chance to shine. It's the same with Bad Boy (Puff Daddy), No Limit (Master P) and Cash Money (Baby).
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be realistic...soopafly e white or bad ass will not have one chance blowin up with or without snoop..forget that, i can tell you that right now. you can love them to death but i honestly doubt any ones checkin for them..they will sell around 50.000 on a major and 20.000 on a indy label...remember what roscoe did on a major label...he sold jack shit
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I wasn't talking about record sells. Hardly anybody sells big, so of course they won't. But I could see more people giving Soopafly his props. Not too sure about E-white, but Snoop ain't gonna release his shit so he might as well leave.
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the bottom line is they need to b on labels that will release there records. soopafly has been in the rap game 4 bout 10 years and we have one album from him that only came out coz of daz
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be realistic...soopafly e white or bad ass will not have one chance blowin up with or without snoop..forget that, i can tell you that right now. you can love them to death but i honestly doubt any ones checkin for them..they will sell around 50.000 on a major and 20.000 on a indy label...remember what roscoe did on a major label...he sold jack shit
word. the only way they would have a chance at getting decent results is if they would get snoop on the track and hire some one like the neptunes to do the beat. Make it super gay and shit to appeal to everybody, except probably the fans who bought his cd put out on dpg records. Make it like Beautiful 2 or some shit. Chances are it would be all over the radio and tv. Probably have to have like at least 3 of these gay songs. If snoop wanted any of them to blow up, thats what he would have to do.
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^ and plus, they would list snoop dogg feat. the neptunes in the video credits so it wouldnt really help them anyway ;D
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Hahaha! I'll pray for that not to happen.
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blowin up or not...they need to get their shit out...and it doesnt look like doggystyle is the right place at the moment.
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How do people give E.White so much props, but hate on Crooked I, even though he's in the same situation as Crooked I? Crooked I and E.White are never dropping albums on their labels, right now.
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people like fresh things.. in some peoples eyes crooked's gone stale.. just by being sat on the shelf too long. e-white aint on his level tho.
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people like fresh things.. in some peoples eyes crooked's gone stale.. just by being sat on the shelf too long. e-white aint on his level tho.
Stale? They must not like the art of emceeing then.
And, you damn right, E.White is NOT seeing Crooked I in anyway.
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How do people give E.White so much props, but hate on Crooked I, even though he's in the same situation as Crooked I? Crooked I and E.White are never dropping albums on their labels, right now.
E-white is nothin special in my eyes. but crooked I has been on death row since like 98 or 99. thats 4 or 5 years and no album has come out. and he has been on the rap scene since 97 or maybe 96. E-white has only been around a year or 2.
and the fact that many people on this forum, suge, and crooked I himself have hyped up his album so much. I have heard so many times how how crooked I is the best rapper out there, he will save the west, he will put death row back on top, etc. Ain't no one really pumping up E-white, there really isn't much talk of him at all. I'm all about people backing up what they say. Crook, his fans, and suge have said a whole fuckin lot about crook, but I haven't seen anything. No album. Just a bunch of talk.
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'bunch of talk' i think thats the thing... they need to put up! (or...).. thats why its stale.. he's not stale.. going somewhere else might be the best thing for him.
i mean.. how many rappers 'blow up' after sitting around for 5 years without a solo release? cmon. be honest.
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'bunch of talk' i think thats the thing... they need to put up! (or...).. thats why its stale.. he's not stale.. going somewhere else might be the best thing for him.
i mean.. how many rappers 'blow up' after sitting around for 5 years without a solo release? cmon. be honest.
Blame Suge, not Crooked I. Crooked I isn't the CEO. Why should he be considered wack because of a bad deal? Fuck that. He still rips the mic like he used to. I don't care about an album, as long as when he drops a verse he does it with precision. Crooked I never dissapoints.
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LOL...
why does everyone asume Crooked I is unhappy..lol
He can't be making any less than he did with DPG/19th street on the sidelines.
The guy is the full package (Lyrics/Flow/Delivery)..
plus Suge is locked down right now!!
which prob had 90% to do with the lp being held up.
4 all we know Crooked I's valut holds as much material as Pac by now.
a lil' of what Gunz-n-roses showed us..("Patience")
and we'll have the album we all want.
on drop day it will be 2000 all over again ;)
Hatesrats 2oooTre
*Oh yeah..Free E.White"
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yup blame suge.. i guess.. i mean.. they pumped dysfunktional up right? crook had the lead single + a video was made... didnt get played much though.
i preferred the original version of the song, not the 'remix' that ended up on the album..
if crook's gonna have to sell his own album through a video/single this isnt a very good track record... right?
no label backing a row release is going to fele confident pumping money into a crooked i album after he fronted that flopped sountrack... not good business.. these music people are fickle..
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yup blame suge.. i guess.. i mean.. they pumped dysfunktional up right? crook had the lead single + a video was made... didnt get played much though.
i preferred the original version of the song, not the 'remix' that ended up on the album..
if crook's gonna have to sell his own album through a video/single this isnt a very good track record... right?
no label backing a row release is going to fele confident pumping money into a crooked i album after he fronted that flopped sountrack... not good business.. these music people are fickle..
Crooked I had nothing to do with that. He's the artist. Suge dictates what is released and how.
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crook is not as good as he used to be. how can you say that. just listen to any song he was part of before he signed to death row, and compare it to his most recent songs. His flow has changed. Listen to how fuckin dope he came on Ride wit a G and compare it with so damn hood.
Murderous MC's, Uh Oh, - he hasn't come close to sounding as good as he did on these songs since he's been on Death Row. only a couple of songs off his mixtape are worthy of his 19th st flow.
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crook is not as good as he used to be. how can you say that. just listen to any song he was part of before he signed to death row, and compare it to his most recent songs. His flow has changed. Listen to how fuckin dope he came on Ride wit a G and compare it with so damn hood.
Murderous MC's, Uh Oh, - he hasn't come close to sounding as good as he did on these songs since he's been on Death Row. only a couple of songs off his mixtape are worthy of his 19th st flow.
Flow has nothing to do with his lyrics. His flow is still there. But, now he focuses more on lyrics.
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E-White isn't even that good. Soopafly however, is a very talented artist (Producing & Rapping). It's a shame what's happening with him.
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E-White isn't even that good. Soopafly however, is a very talented artist (Producing & Rapping). It's a shame what's happening with him.
E-White is a better and more versatile rapper than Soopafly.
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E-White is a better and more versatile rapper than Soopafly.
That's my exact thought's..
Soopa should stick to producing and Guesting..
Cause he don't have the appeal or ability to carry an entire lp alone...ImO.
+ he alredy had a shot..
let's have some change & new peep's..
FREE E.WHite.
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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well anyways, i think e-white is hella dope. soopa is dope, but he used to be really hella dope back in like the 95-98 era
they both talented artists to my opinion, and soopa can produce sick beats too :)
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I think Soopa is a tight rapper, but he was wayyyy better back then. I agree that E White is more versatile. All Soopafly raps about is pimpin.
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I like Soopafly but don't think he's very special or versatile,like mentioned he's allways rapping about pimping (why doesn't he ever get called a fake pimp by the way??) while he can be dope in other ways as well but he doesn't try often enough. For example,he dropped a tight verse on "Down wit US" and also writes Latoiya's texts,wich aren't about pimpin' at all. Soopafly could do more then he does.
E-White is just way more versatile,though i agree his voice and flow aren't special.
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he dropped a tight verse on "Down wit US" and also writes Latoiya's texts,wich aren't about pimpin' at all. Soopafly could do more then he does.
So true! I wish he was reading this.
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i heard e- white signing with 4 life records. that would be street cuz they new niggas to.
soopafly aint all that