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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Twentytwofifty on November 05, 2003, 04:25:21 PM
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They would be so easy to beat in a battle. Anyone would be able to take them out. Eminem, Nas, Common...
They would be so easy to diss. You have four of them, so there is four times the material and there is so much you could say about those four it's not even funny.
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It looks like the original post in this thread got fucked up somehow.
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Eminem alone could probably rip all 4...
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out of the 3 you named yeah they probably could...but they would have to be damn good to do it.
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I wanna add that I think Cannibus could probably rip anyone just from lyrical content alone, but Eminem's great at taking personal shit etc. and destroying his opponents with it.
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No one could diss the horseman and win, Bus, KP and Ras alone could destroy 90% of the rappers out there.
Only ppl i can think of who could battle then would be monch or chino (from the top of my head).
Bus >>> Eminem
Ras >>> Eminem
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would only be good between Eminem & Canibus, the rest would get served
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Who would serve RAS?
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I'm still hopin' that a "real" battle between Canibus and Eminem starts -just like everybody's against Murder Inc. for example- with whole diss-tracks, etc. I think we would here some of the best diss-tracks ever :o On the other hand I'm hopin' that they shake hands and collaborate on a song, would be tight too. They have the choice, but right now they do the most uninteresting thing they could do: They mention each other sometimes in their songs - that's it (besides Canibus' disses on "'C' True Hollywood Stories" back in the days).
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Who would serve RAS?
thass wat im saying, lmao, Razzy is the g.o.a.t. lyricist
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Exactly...
Lyricaly in a battle only monch, bus, chino and one or 2 others could do something to Ras.. Even then it wouldn't happen coz they are horseman (or at least gonna be on the official album)
The only thing ppl could diss Ras about would probably be sales other than that what else?
Ras in a lyrical battle would rip loads of MCs up including EM.
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The only thing ppl could diss Ras about would probably be sales other than that what else?
him getting beat by a female and kicked out the club afterwards
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him being stupid enough to get done for DUI multiple times.
and if u wanna hit below the belt about him killing someone while DUI..
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LOL
u got me there
;D
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Who would serve BUS?
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The only thing ppl could diss Ras about would probably be sales other than that what else?
him getting beat by a female and kicked out the club afterwards
LMFAO, for real?! OMG how extremely gay, C2Knuckles was right, holy fuck, thats just tooo fucken easy
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Who would serve BUS?
no one, he is lyrically insane
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How many MC's must get dissed
before somebody says dont fuck with Bis?
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Chino could have the best chance at ripping them, he'd only struggle with Rassy. Eminem could never rip Rassy, NEVER. Yea, sure they can clown Ras for getting "beat up" by a woman, but Em has a lot of shit to get clowned on for. Canibus would serve up Em too. Kurupt, if he's on point, then he would rip up Em, if not he'd get destroyed. KP is eh...
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Chino? Isnt he cool with the Horsemen?
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but Em has a lot of shit to get clowned on for.
I don't agree. At least not new subject material. He's white, grew up in a trailer, mom's a crac whore, ex-wife's a slut, blah blah blah. It's been done numerous times.
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Anyone else hear that Killah Priest battled Canibus once and won? I remember reading that somewhere a while ago.
If I was battling these four I would have a verse each for Killah Priest, Ras Kass & Kurupt (KP would be the most difficult to diss). Then at the end I would just say:
"Canibus you homo, I didn't need to waste a whole verse on you cause I just have to remind you that you made C True Hollywood Stories, the wackest album ever created. You can't say shit cause of that. Checkmate. You're a fucking joke just like your career"
And being lyrically better doesn't always mean you would be better at making diss records.
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"Canibus you homo, I didn't need to waste a whole verse on you cause I just have to remind you that you made C True Hollywood Stories, the wackest album ever created. You can't say shit cause of that. Checkmate. You're a fucking joke just like your career"
Better than Hit Em Up, no doubt! ::)
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Kurupt, if he's on point, then he would rip up Em
they call u Slim Shady, I call u Slim Snitch
ur a clown..
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Regardless of him getting hit by a women ect i still believe no one can rip Ras Kass and the same goes with Bus.
As for Em he would get ripped TOO HARD..
8)
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aaa.. come on.. people might have their opinions, but eminem ripping ras kass is as wrong as it possibly can get
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aaa.. come on.. people might have their opinions, but eminem ripping ras kass is as wrong as it possibly can get
Someone explain how Eminem beating Ras Kass in a battle can't happen.
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I don't agree. At least not new subject material. He's white, grew up in a trailer, mom's a crac whore, ex-wife's a slut, blah blah blah. It's been done numerous times.
It's been done, yet still funny. Also, carrying empty guns. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. LMAO.
Hoe Hopper: Again, if Kurupt is on point, he would rip Eminem. Eminem has and never will make a diss track as good as "Callin' Out Names." Remember who one of Em's favorite emcees is.
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aaa.. come on.. people might have their opinions, but eminem ripping ras kass is as wrong as it possibly can get
Someone explain how Eminem beating Ras Kass in a battle can't happen.
thats what i just said
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Someone explain how Eminem beating Ras Kass in a battle can't happen.
Ras Kass can be witty and he can be harsh with ease. He doesn't get all angry on tracks. He keeps his cool, making his diss records more powerful, and not jokes.
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Man we can go ahed forever. The truth is that if Eminem disses Ras Kass just cause he has dissed Canibus in the past years he's a fool. If Daz disses other members of The Horsemen just cause Kurupt is in it he's just a fool. If some1 disses another one without a reason he's just a fool. Right now i think Em has no reasons to diss Ras Kass. So?
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Eminem has made 3 of the best diss records ever IMO. Yes Benzino and Everlast aren't the greatest MCs but "I Remember", "The Sauce" and "Nail In The Coffin" are as good as it gets. All better than "Callin' Out Names".
I'm not saying that Eminem would beat Canibus or Ras Kass but it certainly isn't impossible and it's very likey if he made a full out diss record towards one of them it would be very good.
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Eminem has made 3 of the best diss records ever IMO. Yes Benzino and Everlast aren't the greatest MCs but "I Remember", "The Sauce" and "Nail In The Coffin" are as good as it gets. All better than "Callin' Out Names".
I'm not saying that Eminem would beat Canibus or Ras Kass but it certainly isn't impossible and it's very likey if he made a full out diss record towards one of them it would be very good.
"I Remember," was coo, but it wasn't great. Best ever? LMAO! "The Sauce" was dope, but it wasn't touching "Callin' Out Names." 'Nail In The Coffin" was just plain corny. Wow, dissing Benzino for being old and talking gangsta shit, when his own boss is about the same age, and talks the same shit. I don't think ANY of those are the best diss records ever. It's not up there with "Real Muthaphukkin' Gz" or "Bridge Is Over."
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"I Remember," was coo, but it wasn't great. Best ever? LMAO! "The Sauce" was dope, but it wasn't touching "Callin' Out Names." 'Nail In The Coffin" was just plain corny. Wow, dissing Benzino for being old and talking gangsta shit, when his own boss is about the same age, and talks the same shit. I don't think ANY of those are the best diss records ever. It's not up there with "Real Muthaphukkin' Gz" or "Bridge Is Over."
Three of the best ever. I think that "Dollars & Sense", "The Bitch In Yoo" and "No Vaseline" are all better but not "Callin' Out Names". It's got an amazing beat but it's was basically a lot of swearing and him just saying he didn't like him. He didn't really say much.
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I'd put "Real Muthaphukkin G'z" over "Callin' Out Names". And although Em's lyrics on his diss tracs are better than Kurupt's on "Callin' Out Names", they're still not anywhere near the classic level that "Callin' Out Names" is at.
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Go and listen to "Sonset" which was a diss track to the East coast by Ras. He never called out names (although rumour was it was towards Jeru) but its one of my fav diss tracks and lyricaly for a diss it has no equal.
Imagine if he did a diss track towards Em on the same level as "sonset" no way could Em win.
;)
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was basically a lot of swearing and him just saying he didn't like him. He didn't really say much.
And next time ya hit the West
You could best believe, believe the best, mothaFUCK the rest
What you supposed to be snatchin'?
You comin' to a world of punctured hearts and jackin'
Mothafuck D
Mothafuck M
Only X I know is Xzibit or RBX
Nigga, now if I didn't say yo name, then this ain't for you/
But if you try to speak then I'mma peel the paint for you/
I cause brain tumors, thinkin' of a thought to think/
Lettin' off caliber's ‘til the chamber need to be changed/
Empty out, simply don't tempt me, /
I empty out until everything in this mothafucka's gone/
I empty house off of empty rounds
I feel these quotes was what made the song so great.
This one I thought was hilarious: Now it's 50 MC's that ain't worth shit/
Get ya ass kicked 50 times, beat to 10 cent
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Hoe Hopper: Again, if Kurupt is on point, he would rip Eminem. Eminem has and never will make a diss track as good as "Callin' Out Names." Remember who one of Em's favorite emcees is.
Kurupt ain't what he used to be.. u'd have to say if he was like back in tha day cuz now days he can't be like he was.. and there's no way Callin Out Names is lyrically above Em's disses.. wether u like Nail In The Coffin or not he destroyed Benzino with that one and The Sauce it's not even funny.. the actual disses from calling out names weren't anything special
u can't say Kurupt would rip Em cuz he did a diss track years ago which was musically better in ur opinion than Em's.. this is about lyrical skill.. right now.. and Kurupt is a joke compared to Em when it comes to that
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Kurupt ain't what he used to be.. u'd have to say if he was like back in tha day cuz now days he can't be like he was.. and there's no way Callin Out Names is lyrically above Em's disses.. wether u like Nail In The Coffin or not he destroyed Benzino with that one and The Sauce it's not even funny.. the actual disses from calling out names weren't anything special
u can't say Kurupt would rip Em cuz he did a diss track years ago which was musically better in ur opinion than Em's.. this is about lyrical skill.. right now.. and Kurupt is a joke compared to Em when it comes to that
Kurupt, if he's on point, then he would rip up Em, if not he'd get destroyed.
Thanks for selective reading. It's appreciated.
A diss doesn't have to be more lyrical to be better, who told you that? LMAO. If that's the case Canibus would've destroyed L.L. It wouldn't have even been close. Kurupt has made a better diss record, point blank. The greatest diss records aren't even lyrical.
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When it hit's the fan...
Any Mc would be a fool to give "The Horseman" reason to diss them...lMAO
It would be so vicious and eazy for a pack of hungry Wolves like the Horsemen to ripp a top shelf rapper for the rep & the name.
*Remember even Ras himself has mentioned it various times that he's waitng for that top dogg to say something to give him an excuse to ruin their career.
ImO...
anyone of tha Horsemen can & will destroy bout' anyone.
even the GOD Em...yes I said it.
ask LL Cool J
<---------ask ect..
;)
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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Kurupt ain't what he used to be.. u'd have to say if he was like back in tha day cuz now days he can't be like he was.. and there's no way Callin Out Names is lyrically above Em's disses.. wether u like Nail In The Coffin or not he destroyed Benzino with that one and The Sauce it's not even funny.. the actual disses from calling out names weren't anything special
u can't say Kurupt would rip Em cuz he did a diss track years ago which was musically better in ur opinion than Em's.. this is about lyrical skill.. right now.. and Kurupt is a joke compared to Em when it comes to that
Kurupt, if he's on point, then he would rip up Em, if not he'd get destroyed.
Thanks for selective reading. It's appreciated.
it sure is appreciated foo..
if u say just cuz Kurupt had the better beat his diss was better u better shut up when it comes to rating diss tracks
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ImO you can win a diss battle in a lot of ways, not just lyrically. If Tray Deee says FUCK SUGE KNIGHT, YOU A BITCH!, he wins. Cause he doesnt give a fuck about Bloods/Crips: he has the street cred to say that, feel me? But you can win a battle lyrically too, Canibus-style. "To kill me with a gun is too easy: try a pen!". It depends. But for sure Callin Out Names was off the hook.
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it sure is appreciated foo..
if u say just cuz Kurupt had the better beat his diss was better u better shut up when it comes to rating diss tracks
Hmmmm....where did I say the beat is what made the diss better? LMAO @ you making shit up. Hahahaha.
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it sure is appreciated foo..
if u say just cuz Kurupt had the better beat his diss was better u better shut up when it comes to rating diss tracks
Hmmmm....where did I say the beat is what made the diss better? LMAO @ you making shit up. Hahahaha.
sad..
where did I say u said u said it? LMAO @ you making shit up. Hahahaha.
i hoped marking it bold would be enough since u did it too but oh well..
let's do it the slow way for tha undadogg..
I never said it has to be more lyrical , if u woulda read by post u'd know I said that it was 1. lyrically not better 2. the disses weren't anything special either..
since i said NEITHER the lyrics NOR the disses were better than Em's disses I assumed people would be able to see that I know that it's not all about being more lyrical
now ur clown ass comes along telling me I didn't read ur post (what irony) and acting like I only mentioned the lyrical skill not the disses..
A diss doesn't have to be more lyrical to be better, who told you that?
plus "Kurupt has made a better diss record, point blank".. so what was I to think what u thought made Kurupts diss better..? right... the beat cuz that's the aspect that I admitted was better than Em's disses.. so I said IF that's what u sayin u better don't say anything at all..
tried my best.. if u still don't get it, don't worry about it dawg, just leave the thread alone like u did with other threads when I u realized how much shit u was talking..
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it sure is appreciated foo..
if u say just cuz Kurupt had the better beat his diss was better u better shut up when it comes to rating diss tracks
Hmmmm....where did I say the beat is what made the diss better? LMAO @ you making shit up. Hahahaha.
sad..
where did I say u said u said it? LMAO @ you making shit up. Hahahaha.
i hoped marking it bold would be enough since u did it too but oh well..
let's do it the slow way for tha undadogg..
I never said it has to be more lyrical , if u woulda read by post u'd know I said that it was 1. lyrically not better 2. the disses weren't anything special either..
since i said NEITHER the lyrics NOR the disses were better than Em's disses I assumed people would be able to see that I know that it's not all about being more lyrical
now ur clown ass comes along telling me I didn't read ur post (what irony) and acting like I only mentioned the lyrical skill not the disses..
A diss doesn't have to be more lyrical to be better, who told you that?
plus "Kurupt has made a better diss record, point blank".. so what was I to think what u thought made Kurupts diss better..? right... the beat cuz that's the aspect that I admitted was better than Em's disses.. so I said IF that's what u sayin u better don't say anything at all..
tried my best.. if u still don't get it, don't worry about it dawg, just leave the thread alone like u did with other threads when I u realized how much shit u was talking..
Can I get you a tissue? LMAO. I left the "threads alone" once I proved my point. That was that. Why continue on? No need. You still ain't saying nothing. I stated why I thought the diss was better, I even posted the lyrics I felt made it better. But, of course, being the brain that you are, it was "overlooked." It's ok, get on the short bus on Monday, and go on with your life.
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They would be so easy to beat in a battle. Anyone would be able to take them out. Eminem, Nas, Common...
They would be so easy to diss. You have four of them, so there is four times the material and there is so much you could say about those four it's not even funny.
(http://www.dumbjaw.com/wrestling/old4h.jpg)
They would whip all of their asses.
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They would be so easy to beat in a battle. Anyone would be able to take them out. Eminem, Nas, Common...
They would be so easy to diss. You have four of them, so there is four times the material and there is so much you could say about those four it's not even funny.
(http://www.dumbjaw.com/wrestling/old4h.jpg)
They would whip all of their asses.
Hahaha. Hell yeah. Flair, Blanchard, and the Andersons.
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Can I get you a tissue? LMAO.
lol @random comment just so u said 'something'.. try refering to the post u quoted, might help u to make sense one in a while
I left the "threads alone" once I proved my point. That was that. Why continue on? No need. You still ain't saying nothing. I stated why I thought the diss was better, I even posted the lyrics I felt made it better. But, of course, being the brain that you are, it was "overlooked." It's ok, get on the short bus on Monday, and go on with your life.
the lyrics u 'even' posted didn't have personals or anything great about em LoL how the fuck would they make a diss a classic.. as for ur point.. u claimed something, u didn't prove anything, in fact I proved u wrong about the double standarts and it was then when u stopped replying not once u proved something.. but since u didn't refer to the last post once again I guess it was still a lil too fast so i'll let it go for now n let u chill after overtaxing u like that
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the lyrics u 'even' posted didn't have personals or anything great about em LoL how the fuck would they make a diss a classic.. as for ur point.. u claimed something, u didn't prove anything, in fact I proved u wrong about the double standarts and it was then when u stopped replying not once u proved something.. but since u didn't refer to the last post once again I guess it was still a lil too fast so i'll let it go for now n let u chill after overtaxing u like that
Right, Muthafuck D...that wasn't personal whatsoever. ::)
Now it's 50 MC's that ain't worth shit/
Get ya ass kicked 50 times, beat to 10 cent
Not personal at all huh?
LMAO. I proved my point about the double standards, by exposing them. It's as simple as that. All you said was one was worse than the other, but still you admitted that the songs were the same. So you really proved me wrong didn't you? Ha. And, actually, this thread is done, too. I've proved my point, and all you do is bring up situations, because you can't hold down an arguement. That's real. Once you start making it a personal issue, that's when I know you ain't got nothing to say.
So, in conclusion: Kurupt - Callin' Out Names >>> All Eminem diss records.
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Right, Muthafuck D...that wasn't personal whatsoever. ::)
Now it's 50 MC's that ain't worth shit/
Get ya ass kicked 50 times, beat to 10 cent
Not personal at all huh?
wow.. mothafuck (name).. that's one harsh ass personal right there.. I didn't say he didn't adress them, he didn't have any argument, he didn't have shit to say.. what Eminem did in Nail In The Coffin that's personals.. not calling somebody's name out or a lil wordplay
conclusion: lyrically plus personal arguments: Eminem >>>>>> Kurupt.. mothafuck D.. sounded good, that's it.. nothing special about it
LMAO. I proved my point about the double standards, by exposing them. It's as simple as that. All you said was one was worse than the other, but still you admitted that the songs were the same. So you really proved me wrong didn't you? Ha. And, actually, this thread is done, too. I've proved my point, and all you do is bring up situations, because you can't hold down an arguement. That's real. Once you start making it a personal issue, that's when I know you ain't got nothing to say.
do u do that intentionally..? I really can't see how someone would not be able to get that exposing of something that was never denied is not possible.. the fact that them attention disses have something pathetic to them, I never denied, not when it came to 50, not ever.. so if I say C-Bo's pathetic where the fuck's the double standart at when I do NOT say 50 wasn't? in fact I said the opposite, 50 was..
lmao seems like all this is way too complicated for u when u didn't even get that yet
So you really proved me wrong didn't you?
yes. I did. no double standard at all as I never ever said 50's disses did not have the same basic pathetic aspect to them as Bo's do and once somebody (u) asked me if they do I confirmed they do.. got it now? props! if u did
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Well on the horsemen extras mixtape they freestyle over the wanksta beach and diss a few rappers, including 50 Cent and Ja Rule, Alchemist. I think it was Ras Kass doing the entire freestyle. Its pretty tight.
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Who disses 50 Cent and Ja Rule? I wouldn't doubt that Ras took a shot at Alchemist, but the other 2 are kinda hard to believe.