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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Hatesrats™ on November 05, 2003, 11:03:28 PM

Title: It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Hatesrats™ on November 05, 2003, 11:03:28 PM
3.Jigga...face it.

no other rapper can generate this much anticipation..
Not even the Kid...with less contrast..lmao

Hatesrats 2oooTre
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Don Breezio on November 05, 2003, 11:07:38 PM
the only reason there is this much anticipation is because its his last album...if nas was quitting people would do the same...sadly if 50 was quitting ppl would do the same...its not who but what...
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: hector on November 05, 2003, 11:07:57 PM
Actually #1 should go to Big Snoop Dogg.  He is the realest rapper that makes beats for the streets.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Don Breezio on November 05, 2003, 11:09:09 PM
Actually #1 should go to Big Snoop Dogg.  He is the realest rapper that makes beats for the streets.

hahahahahahahahahahaha roflmfflmmfao!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: The Watcher on November 05, 2003, 11:29:44 PM
nobody is ever gonna agree on shit like this, so whats the point of making these threads?
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Hatesrats™ on November 05, 2003, 11:32:41 PM
hahahahahahahahahahaha roflmfflmmfao!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha

Prop's homie...
Hatesrats 2oooTre
*U Took the laughter outta my being...lMAO..
SNoop is the goat...LMAO
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Smoke on November 05, 2003, 11:36:11 PM
Actually #1 should go to Big Snoop Dogg.  He is the realest rapper that makes beats for the streets.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: hector on November 05, 2003, 11:39:03 PM
Yo man, Big Snoop Dogg always drops heat.  I don't know why you guys are laughing.  Every verse is magical from him, and he can't be touched.  I can feel every verse of his like its comming from his heart, and he is doing it for the love of music and his fans.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: The Watcher on November 05, 2003, 11:48:57 PM
Yo man, Big Snoop Dogg always drops heat.  I don't know why you guys are laughing.  Every verse is magical from him, and he can't be touched.  I can feel every verse of his like its comming from his heart, and he is doing it for the love of music and his fans.

sarcasm, right?
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Jome on November 06, 2003, 12:47:25 AM
I think these 5 are top 5:

(In no order)
2Pac, Eminem, Jay-Z, Nas, Notorious B.I.G.


They're probably 5 of the best overall rappers ever, especially when looking at releases.
They're too different to really be compared..
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Don Seer on November 06, 2003, 01:25:24 AM
"I was lyrically Hip Hop's top 5, before two of my niggas died"  Ras Kass - h2o proof


Ras's list from our dubcnn interview.. http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/raskass/

Quote
Top 5 of all time

1- KRS-1
2- Tupac
3- Biggie Smalls
4- Rakim
5- Ras Kass


Currently fav’s (here’s 10)

1- Jay-Z
2- Andre 3000
3- Nas
4- Eminem
5- Ras Kass
6- Twista
7- Redman
8- JadaKiss
9- Styles P
10- Ludacris
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: PLANT on November 06, 2003, 11:55:49 AM
I agree 100%.

I might even put him at #1....

My top 5-10 varies all the time so it's hard to claim someone holds down one spot in particular...
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Twentytwofifty on November 06, 2003, 12:01:17 PM
They might be the top ones since '94 if you haven't heard this kid named Nas rhyme.  
But all-time you might wanna include the likes of Ra, KRS, Kane, G Rap, etc.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: topdogg187 on November 06, 2003, 12:44:09 PM
Top 5 of all time IMO

In order:

1.2pac
1.Snoop Dogg
3.Notorious BIG
4.Jay-Z
5.Ice Cube
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: PLANT on November 06, 2003, 12:50:58 PM
Snoop is prolly one of the best artists of all time, but not one of the greatest MC's...

I think Redman should be up there too.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Trauma-san on November 06, 2003, 09:30:18 PM
I agree, but I'd prob. do

1. Biggie
2. Tupac
3. Jay Z

Jay Z has reached that level where his stuff is pretty much flawless, he can flow about anything he wants, if it's a dope beat, the song's almost perfect.  
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Don Jacob on November 06, 2003, 10:07:32 PM
oh god no

it goes


1. PAC
2. RA
3. KRS
4. Nas
5. Cube


1. pac cuz .......shit it's pac.....the truest artist hip hop has EVER known

2. ra -the greatest lyracist of all time

3. KRS- when you're dubbed the "teacher" it kinda says something about your influence

4. nas- shit illmatic alone solidifies a position

5. cube- c'mon from nwa-death certificate-boyz in the hood-friday-barbor shop.......dude defined what a rapper could do
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Don Breezio on November 06, 2003, 10:37:20 PM
I think these 5 are top 5:

(In no order)
2Pac, Eminem, Jay-Z, Nas, Notorious B.I.G.


They're probably 5 of the best overall rappers ever, especially when looking at releases.
They're too different to really be compared..

yeah i'd agree w/ that...in no order i would definetely agree...its hard to put them in order...but i'd have to add in rakim somewhere in there.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: SGV on November 06, 2003, 11:34:12 PM
01. KRS
02. Cube
03. G Rap
04. Chuck D
05. D.O.C.
06. Slick Rick
07. Ice-T
08. Too Short
09. Scarface
10. Kane

More or less, this is the top then I have right now. I usually switch out some cats from time to time. But, it's almost always close to this.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Dj Eskimo on November 07, 2003, 07:12:27 AM
01. KRS
02. Cube
03. G Rap
04. Chuck D
05. D.O.C.
06. Slick Rick
07. Ice-T
08. Too Short
09. Scarface
10. Kane



im feelin this list man, its pretty on point but id move Cube down to 7 and at number 2 have Biggie.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Smoke on November 07, 2003, 07:41:45 AM
Well who cares about the order! Anyway i'm downloading The Black Album now.. 8)
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: CRAFTY on November 07, 2003, 08:07:24 AM
I think these 5 are top 5:

(In no order)
2Pac, Eminem, Jay-Z, Nas, Notorious B.I.G.


They're probably 5 of the best overall rappers ever, especially when looking at releases.
They're too different to really be compared..

I agree 100%
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Hatesrats™ on November 07, 2003, 02:08:35 PM
I agree, but I'd prob. do

1. Biggie
2. Tupac
3. Jay Z

Jay Z has reached that level where his stuff is pretty much flawless, he can flow about anything he wants, if it's a dope beat, the song's almost perfect.  

Yup...^^^
Trauma know's what I'm speakin' on.

Hatesrats 2oooTre
*I decided to keep Cube off cause his period from
1988-1994 was unfair to compare... :o
let's just say he's my #0.
His impact is TODAY!!.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: SGV on November 07, 2003, 02:15:35 PM

im feelin this list man, its pretty on point but id move Cube down to 7 and at number 2 have Biggie.
Cube to 7?! DAMN! Cube's influence started before Biggie was here, and continues even while Biggie is gone. Cube's made much better albums, group and solo. Cube and KRS are neck and neck. IMO.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: MakaveliRidah on November 07, 2003, 11:08:37 PM
id have to say
1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Eminem
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Foesum on November 08, 2003, 08:44:45 AM
first of all, i think Biggie and Pac are exactly the same, they both have the same amount of weaknesses and strengths, where one is weak, the other is strong.

Biggie, easily, is the story teller. Where Pac is the poet. But they can switch and be good. There are lots of songs with Biggie doing poetry. Now, for their beats. Well that ain't even their talent there so beats don't count for them.

you can't put any artists in order, its too hard. But i'll give you some of the goats in NO ORDER

Rakim
2pac
Ice-T
Biggie
Big Daddy Kane
Chuck D

i would put:

Ice Cube
D.O.C
Eminem
Jay-Z
KRS
maybe Slick Rick
Nas
maybe Snoop Dogg and Dr.Dre
Ras Kass

i would put them lower than the others, because they are amazing, but they could not match the ones above.

we're talking about lyrics here, not beats, not flow. Lyrics are what make those artists. Because none of the beats they flow on are theirs, and without beats, there isn't any flow. Lyrics stand out on their own. Without lyrics it wouldn't even be considered rap, thats why Lyrics is the main key for rapping.

I might not even consider Chuck D on that list, without Public Enemy he is only half of what he can be.

But, Ice, Big, 2Pac, Ra, Kane

They each proven their amazing. Kane can probably freestly non-stop for hours.
Ice-t: OG Original Gangster. There you go, i could possibly consider that as the most underrated hip-hop album ever.
2pac and Biggie, come'on, every artist is influenced by them.
Rakim: if i had to put them in order, i might consider him being the best. IF "Oh My God" ever comes out, which eventually it will. It could be the GOAT album.

Maybe, just MAYBE, had The D.O.C, Ice Cube, and Ras Kass had gotten more success, they'd be on it. They come very close to the list but just don't make it.

But here, we're talking about artists, if it were a group, the list will definetely be different.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: eS El Duque on November 08, 2003, 09:03:04 AM
my top 5 in no order

eminem, big pun, biggie, big daddy kane, KRS One

snoop, pac, nas, NWA (as a group) and jigga man rounding off my top 10

a few more songs from Lloyd Banks and he's gonna be one of my favorites fo sure  8)
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Lincoln on November 08, 2003, 10:45:57 PM
Everybody overlooks Ice-T as one of the best. He wasn't the first to do gangsta rap (Schooly D, remember him?) but he really took it to that level. NWA was on that same wavelength, they just took it to the masses. I don't see how anyone could put Eminem in the top 10, I just don't think he's that great an MC. His rhymes were either your average underground rapper-styled or this new shit he's doing which I don't like at all.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: Foesum on November 09, 2003, 07:41:59 AM
Everybody overlooks Ice-T as one of the best. He wasn't the first to do gangsta rap (Schooly D, remember him?) but he really took it to that level. NWA was on that same wavelength, they just took it to the masses. I don't see how anyone could put Eminem in the top 10, I just don't think he's that great an MC. His rhymes were either your average underground rapper-styled or this new shit he's doing which I don't like at all.

Schooly D, i don't think he made as big as an impact than Ice.

Thats just my opinion, y'know. I love T, i think his story telling sometimes can match Biggies. Listen to "Midnight" or "Bitches 2", pure madness.
Title: Re:It goes 1.2Pac, 2. Biggie....ect
Post by: 7even on November 09, 2003, 07:56:38 AM
I dont get the Jay-Z hype...never liked him much...especially when it comes to voice...lyrics aint special at all to me...well I simply dont get it