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Title: WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Halu Sination on November 23, 2003, 03:16:24 AM
Daz Dillinger, one of the original members of the legendary Dogg Pound, goes up against the slick newcomer Crooked I.

IMPORTANT NOTE: I WILL ONLY BE COUNTING THE VOTES IN THE ACTUAL POLL ITSELF! EVEN IF YOU TYPE OUT THEIR NAMES IN THE REPLY, YOUR VOTE STILL WOULDN'T BE COUNTED BECAUSE I WILL ONLY BE LOOKING AT THE RESULTS FROM THE POLL.

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Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Killa-G on November 23, 2003, 05:32:54 AM
Fuck Daz
Fuck Soopabitch



EAT A DICK DAZ - Kurupt 8)
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: PLANT on November 23, 2003, 06:58:30 AM
Cooked I is far superior to Daz's lyrical skills, but until he drops a fucking album Im going with Daz.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: P Nelson on November 23, 2003, 07:11:39 AM
DAT NIGGA DAZ

Crooked aint  got no album..  Daz got classics..
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on November 23, 2003, 08:12:14 AM
DAT NIGGA DAZ

Crooked aint  got no album..  Daz got classics..
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 09:10:55 AM
LMAO @ Daz winning. He's got classics? He has a great album(RRGB), a dope album(RAW), the rest ain't all that. This tournament is supposed to be about emcees, not who you like. Crooked I is much more advanced than Daz. Daz has NEVER spit a verse as hot as Crooked I. If Icon loses this, I swear this Tournament is a joke.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Lincoln on November 23, 2003, 09:40:24 AM
LMAO @ Daz winning. He's got classics? He has a great album(RRGB), a dope album(RAW), the rest ain't all that. This tournament is supposed to be about emcees, not who you like. Crooked I is much more advanced than Daz. Daz has NEVER spit a verse as hot as Crooked I. If Icon loses this, I swear this Tournament is a joke.
Word.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Code Blue on November 23, 2003, 11:51:35 AM
Oh my damn. I can't believe it's even.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 12:08:05 PM
^^^I can.

This is WCC, where preference prevails and skills don't matter. DPG is loved and I mean loved, anything Deathrow is hated. If Ras Kass signed to Deathrow and battled Uncle June Bug, Uncle June Bug would get all the votes.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Code Blue on November 23, 2003, 12:52:16 PM
^^^I can.

This is WCC, where preference prevails and skills don't matter. DPG is loved and I mean loved, anything Deathrow is hated. If Ras Kass signed to Deathrow and battled Uncle June Bug, Uncle June Bug would get all the votes.

Haha. Fans like those are one of the many reasons the West Coast rap scene is how it is.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Lord Funk on November 23, 2003, 01:04:04 PM
Crook only beats Daz on lyrics... in terms of having the complete package, Daz in his prime (Dogg Food through to RR&GB... shit, plus D&YG) shits on what Crook has acheived thus far...

Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 01:21:37 PM
Crook only beats Daz on lyrics... in terms of having the complete package, Daz in his prime (Dogg Food through to RR&GB... shit, plus D&YG) shits on what Crook has acheived thus far...


Lyrics, flow, creativity and originality = Icon.


"Murderin' MC's" and "Uh Oh" are better than any Daz song.

Destroying artists on tracks the likes of Chino, Planet Asia, Heltah Skeltah, Ras Kass, Kurupt, Xzibit, Sly Boogy, hell even Snoop, Daz, Soopafly, Dre'Sta, MC Eiht....the list goes on. For someone without an album, that's a great resume.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Funkadelic on November 23, 2003, 01:44:48 PM
D-A-Z
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Halu Sination on November 23, 2003, 03:00:00 PM
LMAO @ Daz winning. He's got classics? He has a great album(RRGB), a dope album(RAW), the rest ain't all that. This tournament is supposed to be about emcees, not who you like. Crooked I is much more advanced than Daz. Daz has NEVER spit a verse as hot as Crooked I. If Icon loses this, I swear this Tournament is a joke.

although i voted for crooked i, that logic basically means that the game deserves to beat del in the next round. because despite how creative del is, the game also spit verses 90 times harder than del has. all in all, daz has a lot more material to judge from, while crooked has like 9 songs. and by the way, daz has spit verses as hot as crooked before, check out dont go to sleep and initiated
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 03:04:34 PM

although i voted for crooked i, that logic basically means that the game deserves to beat del in the next round. because despite how creative del is, the game also spit verses 90 times harder than del has. all in all, daz has a lot more material to judge from, while crooked has like 9 songs. and by the way, daz has spit verses as hot as crooked before, check out dont go to sleep and initiated
You think The Game is a more advanced emcee than Del?! Wtf? Del is not some generic gang banger. He's original, got a crazy flow, real creative, has dope wordplay and metaphors. The Game isn't fucking with him. I'll die laughing is D-E-L loses to Shyne...er uh...The Game.

Daz' hottest verse isn't coming close to something like Icon's verse off of "Anthem 7" or "Underground Tactics." Not close.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Halu Sination on November 23, 2003, 03:12:20 PM

although i voted for crooked i, that logic basically means that the game deserves to beat del in the next round. because despite how creative del is, the game also spit verses 90 times harder than del has. all in all, daz has a lot more material to judge from, while crooked has like 9 songs. and by the way, daz has spit verses as hot as crooked before, check out dont go to sleep and initiated
He's original, got a crazy flow, real creative, has dope wordplay and metaphors. The Game isn't fucking with him.

i have both sides of the the brain and deltron 3030. i only have like 10 tracks by the game. trust me, the game can fuck with del.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 03:23:50 PM

i have both sides of the the brain and deltron 3030. i only have like 10 tracks by the game. trust me, the game can fuck with del.
LMAO!

"Jaw Gymnastics" with Casual. That track ALONE would destroy The Game. Are you serious homie? You got some good taste in music, but WHOA! Drop a verse by The Game that you think would destroy D-E-L.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Halu Sination on November 23, 2003, 03:30:01 PM

i have both sides of the the brain and deltron 3030. i only have like 10 tracks by the game. trust me, the game can fuck with del.
LMAO!

"Jaw Gymnastics" with Casual. That track ALONE would destroy The Game. Are you serious homie? You got some good taste in music, but WHOA! Drop a verse by The Game that you think would destroy D-E-L.

the hot shit freestyle, dont make me clap, and cocaine. the verses on those are even better than crooks murderin mcz and the anthem

and dont get me wrong, i never said the game is better than del. im saying that if you vote an artist because of how dope they spit a couple verses, then sly boogy beating a legend like fatlip would actually be justified.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: f0n|{sta on November 23, 2003, 03:31:32 PM
DAT NIGGA DAZ

Crooked aint  got no album..  Daz got classics..
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 03:33:32 PM

the hot shit freestyle, dont make me clap, and cocaine. the verses on those are even better than crooks murderin mcz and the anthem

and dont get me wrong, i never said the game is better than del. im saying that if you rate an artist on their best verses, then sly boogy beating a legend like fatlip would actually be justifiable.
LMAO. Man, maybe you're just a big Game fan. I don't see any of those verses touching Del or Icon in a battle.

I figure it this way. If we're talking about a battle, it don't matter if you're a legend. Sly Boogy can battle, I'm sure he'd give it to Fat Lip. If you want to bring legendary status into play, then Ice-T, Dre and Cube would murder all emcees in a battle.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Vigilante on November 23, 2003, 03:34:30 PM
Cooked I is far superior to Daz's lyrical skills, but until he drops a fucking album Im going with Daz.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 03:36:17 PM
Oh yea, how is it Icon's fault that HIS LABELS aren't putting out his albums? Virgin fucked up, now Deathrow is fucking up. To count that against him is lame.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Halu Sination on November 23, 2003, 03:37:46 PM

the hot shit freestyle, dont make me clap, and cocaine. the verses on those are even better than crooks murderin mcz and the anthem

and dont get me wrong, i never said the game is better than del. im saying that if you rate an artist on their best verses, then sly boogy beating a legend like fatlip would actually be justifiable.

I figure it this way. If we're talking about a battle, it don't matter if you're a legend. Sly Boogy can battle, I'm sure he'd give it to Fat Lip. If you want to bring legendary status into play, then Ice-T, Dre and Cube would murder all emcees in a battle.

i never mentioned the legendary status, because i feel it has nothing to do with anything. fact is, pharcyde has a lot more material than sly boogy. sly's best track is probably "ridiculous" and it couldnt even compare with "runnin" or "passing me by"
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 03:53:36 PM

i never mentioned the legendary status, because i feel it has nothing to do with anything.

sly boogy beating a legend like fatlip would actually be justifiable.




fact is, pharcyde has a lot more material than sly boogy. sly's best track is probably "ridiculous" and it couldnt even compare with "runnin" or "passing me by"

Are we talking lyrical here? As hot as Fat Lip's verses on those two classic tracks were, do you think they're lyrically better than "Ridiculous?" I don't think they are.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Smoke on November 23, 2003, 08:06:41 PM
Judging by their careers, Daz is obviously better. But i think we have to judge by their skills, so Crooky take my vote. Easly. Today's Daz cant fuck with Crooked I.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 23, 2003, 08:10:56 PM
Judging by their careers, Daz is obviously better. But i think we have to judge by their skills, so Crooky take my vote. Easly. Today's Daz cant fuck with Crooked I.

Thank you.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Hatesrats™ on November 23, 2003, 10:11:44 PM
Crooked I
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: The Watcher on November 23, 2003, 10:34:50 PM
if this was about skills, Chali 2na would be winning this shit. It's about who the people like most
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Smoke on November 24, 2003, 04:16:37 AM
if this was about skills, Chali 2na would be winning this shit. It's about who the people like most
Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50 Cent, Daz. No need to make a competition!
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Smoke on November 24, 2003, 04:20:58 AM
Oh, anyway.. LMAO! How stupid is to ask who's better between Daz and Crooked I over at:

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php (All Snoop-DPG lovers)
http://www.dpgrecordz.com/gangstaville (Daz's home)
http://www.wcrydaz.com/gangstashit/ (Daz lovers)
http://www.aftermathmusic.info (Death Row haters)
http://www.siccness.net/vb/

Are you kidding me? If we ask the same questions intro some Death Row forums, Crooked I will win by 90%.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Don Seer on November 24, 2003, 04:53:12 AM

although i voted for crooked i, that logic basically means that the game deserves to beat del in the next round. because despite how creative del is, the game also spit verses 90 times harder than del has. all in all, daz has a lot more material to judge from, while crooked has like 9 songs. and by the way, daz has spit verses as hot as crooked before, check out dont go to sleep and initiated
He's original, got a crazy flow, real creative, has dope wordplay and metaphors. The Game isn't fucking with him.

i have both sides of the the brain and deltron 3030. i only have like 10 tracks by the game. trust me, the game can fuck with del.

so you havent heard 3rd eye vision or i wish my brother george was here?

del shits all over game, period point blank.


Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: The Watcher on November 24, 2003, 05:12:01 AM
if this was about skills, Chali 2na would be winning this shit. It's about who the people like most
Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50 Cent, Daz. No need to make a competition!

Uh.. except for Daz none of those are in this competition?

Quote
del shits all over game, period point blank.

^ realness
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on November 24, 2003, 05:52:32 AM
I think Krayzie Mofo Guy needs to clarify what the tournament ist all about


SGV u just assume it's about skillz.. it might be about who's the better artist.. and no matter who's fault it is, if somebody did never release an album he can't win over somebody who got a classic (Dogg Food) and several dope albums

I'm gonna wait till I know what it is about
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Don Seer on November 24, 2003, 06:01:12 AM
SGV would so the underground unproven cats can win...

no denying though, there have been some shady results already...

soopafly beating kam.. wtf
the game beating e-a-ski.. wtf

and a bit suprised phil da ag beat evidence

i voted daz simply because daz HAS contributed more than crooked so far.. crooked is turning into the great overhyped.. if someone without a solo or even a group project (like crooked, or soopafly) goes up against someone with one and wins somethings up..
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Smoke on November 24, 2003, 06:07:02 AM
if this was about skills, Chali 2na would be winning this shit. It's about who the people like most
Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50 Cent, Daz. No need to make a competition!

Uh.. except for Daz none of those are in this competition?
Ok. Even pointless. Daz will win it.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Smoke on November 24, 2003, 06:08:53 AM
Why? Ok, sorry but i'll quote myself!

Oh, anyway.. LMAO! How stupid is to ask who's better between Daz and Crooked I over at:

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php (All Snoop-DPG lovers)
http://www.dpgrecordz.com/gangstaville (Daz's home)
http://www.wcrydaz.com/gangstashit/ (Daz lovers)
http://www.aftermathmusic.info (Death Row haters)
http://www.siccness.net/vb/

Are you kidding me? If we ask the same questions intro some Death Row forums, Crooked I will win by 90%.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Smoke on November 24, 2003, 06:09:51 AM
soopafly beating kam.. wtf
the game beating e-a-ski.. wtf

 :-X
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Lil Jay on November 24, 2003, 07:13:06 AM
Crook would destroy Daz in a Freestyle, but as an artist overall I say Daz so I voted for Daz. But I dont know what counts & is more important in this Tournament
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Lincoln on November 24, 2003, 12:57:21 PM
soopafly beating kam.. wtf
the game beating e-a-ski.. wtf

 :o
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: SGV on November 24, 2003, 08:47:27 PM
I think Krayzie Mofo Guy needs to clarify what the tournament ist all about


SGV u just assume it's about skillz.. it might be about who's the better artist.. and no matter who's fault it is, if somebody did never release an album he can't win over somebody who got a classic (Dogg Food) and several dope albums

I'm gonna wait till I know what it is about
It's a good assumption, when it's called the "West Coast MC Tournament" and a good amount of the people listed are all gifted lyricists.

Daz killed it with the beats, on Dogg Food, but not the lyrics. This is an MC Tournament, not a production Tournament.

Wack loses were: Evidence, Chace In, Mac Mall, Sly Boogy, San Quinn, Crooked I, Kam, Gift Of Gab, Zion & Chali 2na.

BTW, Seer, if you haven't noticed more than half of the artists in this tournament are "underground" cats. So please stop with the corny thought process.


BTW, I'll be damned if Daz' is a Top 16 MC from the West.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: kottonmouthninja on November 24, 2003, 10:08:50 PM
Dat Nigga Daz Dillinger!
why? becuase i aint voteing for someone signed to a dead lable and wont drop an album
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Darksider on November 24, 2003, 10:11:05 PM
crooked i
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Smoke on November 24, 2003, 10:47:07 PM
Dat Nigga Daz Dillinger!
why? becuase i aint voteing for someone signed to a dead lable and wont drop an album

That's what i'm talking about! ::)
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on November 25, 2003, 12:46:07 AM
My 2 cents: Daz = 1 of tha worst rappers of ALL TIME!

My vote = Crooked I
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on November 25, 2003, 07:27:32 AM
It's a good assumption, when it's called the "West Coast MC Tournament" and a good amount of the people listed are all gifted lyricists.

Daz killed it with the beats, on Dogg Food, but not the lyrics. This is an MC Tournament, not a production Tournament.

I wasn't talkin about porduction but music.. that's why I said artist, Daz did way more dope music than Crooked did


since this is an mc tournament Crooked should win but the threads don't tell u this is about who's the better emcee, neither the first round nor the second "WESTCOAST TOURNAMENT.. ZION VS KNOC-TURN'AL" "WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I"..

I just clicked on the link and saw it, most people probably didn't, Krayzie Mofo should mention it in each thread..
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Don Jacob on November 25, 2003, 09:17:08 AM
crooked i is the better rapper no doubt, but he hasn't prooved jack squat, nor has he done jack squat . daz has put out numerous projects and got to crackin and made it happen in his career. plus he's more of a complete artist. he can rap , he can produce, and he's a funny mother fucker. granted he's a mediocre rapper.i'll take someone more complete anyday .
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: yung-g on November 26, 2003, 09:21:01 PM
daz is garbage.
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Suffice on November 26, 2003, 11:42:27 PM
mos definitely Daz. Crooked is good, but he is yet to prove what he can do. A dozen songs don't prove anything. Daz, on the other hand, has only been improving since his death row days. HE has the hottest semi-fast flow in the game (not counting krayzie, twista, etc.) As a lyricist, crooked i is better, but overall, daz is the better of the two
Title: Re:WEST TOURNAMENT 2ND ROUND: DAZ VS CROOKED I
Post by: Smoke on November 27, 2003, 05:40:27 AM
Daz, on the other hand, has only been improving since his death row days.

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