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Title: So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: Don Seer on November 24, 2003, 06:53:11 AM
seems we have quite a split here..

altho some people are blatantly just saying stuff to either wind people up, or act hard..

speak with your votes!



Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on November 24, 2003, 06:57:32 AM
and read the details before u vote..
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: UDollar A.K.A Nino on November 24, 2003, 06:59:37 AM
Well im kind of unsure.
At times i think hes guilty, but change my mind pretty fast again.

Huh....
Peace
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: PLANT on November 24, 2003, 07:02:02 AM
Im really unsure but I do know one thing and that is that Jacko is one sick mutherfucker.  Even if he didnt molest these children, hes still fucked up.  Look at the way he dresses his own children.  What kind of child should be brought up that way?  
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on November 24, 2003, 08:20:06 AM
Im really unsure but I do know one thing and that is that Jacko is one sick mutherfucker.  Even if he didnt molest these children, hes still fucked up.  Look at the way he dresses his own children.  What kind of child should be brought up that way?  

Praise Represent for the realness he says
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: ecrazy on November 24, 2003, 02:11:30 PM
Since The Interview Last year, with that dude from the UK, I was kinda looking for something like this to happen..,...theses allegations come to no surprise to me, i  knew something like this was going to happen sooner or later
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: E. J. Rizo on November 24, 2003, 02:17:59 PM
he is innocent until proven guilty people be fuckin treating him like he guilty already and shit just let this shit play out and see what happens if he did it then he deserves whats coming to him.......but until then im not going to pass judgement.....i hate how they are treating him
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: Woodrow on November 24, 2003, 02:30:57 PM
unsure.

I'll let the courts decide.
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: Diabolical on November 24, 2003, 02:40:39 PM
unsure
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on November 24, 2003, 03:35:11 PM
big fan but im unsure man.......i see it like this...............why would homie go round sayin his still sleeps with kids in bed if he was still fuckin them............that would be the dumbest shit ever.....but why does he got videos from the kid and mother recorded of them sayin theyve never done anything...........like he could have fucked the kid and then payed them muhfuckers to say that shit on camera and he'll pay them..........u know, jus as security...........but like some other muthafucka said, im unsure..........

i hope its not true though, everytime homies about to get back on track something fucks him up
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: white Boy on November 24, 2003, 03:45:39 PM
its all a plot against the black people....


hes white....

i think eve said it best, she said he is inocent until proven guilty and newspapers and magazines have no role to judge themselves,
i hope mike aint that stupid to do that again, but then, do you rreally think there is parents out there crazy enough to tell their kid to say mike raped him.... the truth will be shown ( hopefully we wont see another OJ)
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: JTSimon on November 24, 2003, 04:05:33 PM
I have no doubt in my mind MJackson is a child molester.

Sucks because I use to be a fan.


Links to 1993 lawsuit filed...cover page 1 out of 16
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjcivil1.html (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjcivil1.html)

(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/mjcivil1.gif)
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: The Watcher on November 24, 2003, 04:31:02 PM
innocent all the way
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: JTSimon on November 24, 2003, 04:56:56 PM
1)He admits sleeping in the same bed with his young friends, he calls it a "beautiful thing". O.K.-even if MJ suffered emotional & physical abuse as a child, a LOT of people suffer physical & mental abuse as children, and then do NOT go on to molest children.

2) the Passive/Aggressive behavior MJ has show in buisness dealings, contract disputes, and in other decissions in his life, shows without question, he has an adult mind. Despite his "I'm just Peter Pan"-line, ask former Beatle & Wings frontman Paul McCartney about how MJ can be a very dangerous, and very savy buisnessman.

3) His overnight bedrooms, for his child "friends" were only accessible through one door. In MJ's bedroom. In other words, if the child had to use the restroom in the middle of the night, they would have to go through MJ's bedroom.

4) He would show his very young guests moives like "The Exorcist", and then suggest the children sleep with him.

5) His behavior is classic pedophile. Unlike other sexual preditors, pedophiles convince themselves there is a real "relationship" with the child & that they (the pedophile) "love" the child in question. A True pedophile also developes a "relationship" with the child, showering them with gifts & attention. Pedophiles are also unapologetic. They are sociopaths in the fact they do not "feel" a sense of wrong. MJ has never showed anything but contempt for law enforcement & his accusers.

6) According to Jack Gordon (former husband of LaToya Jackson) LaToya tried repeatedly to tell officals there was "something wrong" at Neverland, Michael Jackson's compound. LaToya herself, was alienated & banished from her family 10 years ago, when the original accusations were made.

7)The man has NO concept of reality. He is a freak. He paid to alter his appearence to the point he bares NO resemblence to his former self. He is not an accident, or burn victim. He PAID to look like he does. He is self-mutlilating (like "cutting"), and no one has stopped him.

8} He has de-humanized his own children & treats them like possessions. I do NOT see genuine affection for his children. His relationship with them is based on his own pleasure & dis-pleasure.

^from a website
(http://www.thealders.net/images/mj4.jpg)
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: Citizen-Y on November 24, 2003, 05:04:23 PM
Papa Jackson fucked him up.  

But it ain't my place to condemn him.  I don't have all the info.
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: The Watcher on November 24, 2003, 05:12:28 PM
- He has videos of the boy & mother saying nothing happened
- He has signed documents by them saying nothing happened
- the boys father said the shit didnt happen

sure, Jacko is a bit strange and probably needs to spend a few $mil on shrinks, he's not this pedophile people are sayin
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: JTSimon on November 24, 2003, 05:39:20 PM
- He has videos of the boy & mother saying nothing happened
- He has signed documents by them saying nothing happened
- the boys father said the shit didnt happen

sure, Jacko is a bit strange and probably needs to spend a few $mil on shrinks, he's not this pedophile people are sayin

If they gave me 20 million bucks I would say the same thing  ;D fo sheeezy

I would be like let bygones be bygones :D but the family of new charges say they want MJackson punished to the fullest extent of the law.
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: Darksider on November 24, 2003, 08:16:45 PM
guilty....but thats just my opinion
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: js83 on November 24, 2003, 08:21:27 PM
man if he goes to jail...he's gonna be somebody's bitch forever in there...

hopefully he dosen't end up in there....
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: JTSimon on November 24, 2003, 10:51:09 PM
man if he goes to jail...he's gonna be somebody's bitch forever in there...

hopefully he dosen't end up in there....

If MJackson is sentenced to jail time they would isolate him from the general public like they did OJ. They got a section in jail for high profile inmates cops/celebrities/politicians.
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: Don Breezio on November 24, 2003, 10:58:53 PM
if he really had videos then this discussion would be over wouldnt it? he wouldnt even go on trial in that case.

MJ is guilty...people just dont want to believe that he is because he is a role model (or atleast to some ppl...i dont know why). we all love MJ's music...but lets face it...the dude bangs children...simple as that...get him some help.
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on November 24, 2003, 11:06:02 PM
- He has videos of the boy & mother saying nothing happened
- He has signed documents by them saying nothing happened
- the boys father said the shit didnt happen

sure, Jacko is a bit strange and probably needs to spend a few $mil on shrinks, he's not this pedophile people are sayin

If they gave me 20 million bucks I would say the same thing  ;D fo sheeezy

I would be like let bygones be bygones :D but the family of new charges say they want MJackson punished to the fullest extent of the law.

?

who gave the father 20 million dude.. he's talkin about the new case and the father of that boy never met Michael but he knows his wife and he said she porbably made it up
Title: Re:So... Do you believe MJ is innocent or guilty?
Post by: JTSimon on November 24, 2003, 11:08:28 PM
if he really had videos then this discussion would be over wouldnt it? he wouldnt even go on trial in that case.

MJ is guilty...people just dont want to believe that he is because he is a role model (or atleast to some ppl...i dont know why). we all love MJ's music...but lets face it...the dude bangs children...simple as that...get him some help.

Yeah...but I don't agree with the help part.

He shouldn't be given special treatment...send his pale ass to jail.