West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: italianguy on November 30, 2003, 10:20:05 AM
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it seems that snoop dogg is now an idiot, everybody move critics at him, even ex dpg members like tray dee and kokane. I think that now snoop change his style but he is still one of the best rappers not only on the westcoast....he is famous now even here in Italy. The problem is that on the west coast there is no king of rap right now ....
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snoop has to go back to tha doggfatha/doggystyle days..
theres my opinion
now its mostly bullshit with him. . .
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Long Beach is more of an asian and mexican city and most LB rappers are from 20's, now how many are down with Snoop for the affiliation and how many are dwn with Snoop for the expousre/music/money? the 20's that Snoop rolls with are paid to protect his ass.
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Well I gotta say that IMO Snoop ain't all bad - no matter how crappy Paid The Cost To Be Tha Boss is. I mean he's got a whole bunch of dope guest appearances both before and after PTCTBTB. And he still does 'em. And that track on the new Limp Bizkit album, Red Light Green Light - listen to that and tell me Snoop can't freestyle a whole verse anymore.
I ain't trying to ride dick though - there's plenty of fucked up things he's done (or hasn't done, depending on how you look at it) like not paying Tha Eastsidaz, constantly doing the pimp thing (a dose of Bigg Jeffrey every now and then is cool, but don't do it all the time!), doing the fo shizzle my nizzle it's off tha hizzle u dizzle? -thing too much, constantly wearing those sunglasses (or "nite locs") and all that... And though Snoop can still rap, we all know he ain't even near to the level where he was when he was younger. Plus his solo songs concepts suck nowadays... Too many rappers in love once again. Or he's saying plain nothin'. So he's got much more going against him than for him.
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no one would hate on the fo shizzle my nizzle shit if he lowered on the pimp shit a little.....i mean the pimpin shit maybe helpin him write and his flow and shit, but aint nobody listenin that shit......he needs to speak real and flow together......
peace
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Before Snoop became a Pimp, he was coo. But, he wanted to be a Pimp, he wanted to bring back the Funakdelic sound, that ain't gonna happen. That's all he had Koke there for. He wanted the authentic Funk sound. That shit's dead though. He fucked up the last Eastsidaz LP with all the lame shit. He ruined his career with it. Now, Daz and Soopafly lost all talent. Warren G's career is done. Nate Dogg is only one still pumping out any quality. Bad Azz needs to bounce from that weak crew. DPG is officially garbation.
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He wanted the authentic Funk sound. That shit's dead though. He fucked up the last Eastsidaz LP with all the lame shit.
Thank fuck someone else thinks the same as me...
Let's put it on the line here, because I think we can solve the argument once and for all (yeah, right):
Snoop has got charisma and style. To some extent he will always be a star. BUT:
When everyone agreed that he was dope, there were two special ingrediants -
Dre on the beats
D.O.C looking over his shoulder to help with the rhymes
Without those two, he might well continue to be a star, but he will almost certainly never be as dope as he was in 1992-1994.
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DPG is officially garbation.
LOL! For real tho, wherever Bad Azz is or goes I hope he blows up cuz I think hes the most talented MC out west right now.
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Snoop has got charisma and style. To some extent he will always be a star. BUT:
When everyone agreed that he was dope, there were two special ingrediants -
Dre on the beats
D.O.C looking over his shoulder to help with the rhymes
Without those two, he might well continue to be a star, but he will almost certainly never be as dope as he was in 1992-1994.
Yeah
He needs to realize that he needs to go back to the doggystyle days and get back with dre, and the D.O.C. .. that'd have to be the dopest thing he could do right now and be loved by everyone. put out an album lol 'doggystylin' 2004' (or whatever year he decides) get to dre, d.o.c., warren g, nate... it would be c-l-a-s-s-i-c. rbx too, and daz lol
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Yeah
He needs to realize that he needs to go back to the doggystyle days and get back with dre, and the D.O.C. .. that'd have to be the dopest thing he could do right now and be loved by everyone. put out an album lol 'doggystylin' 2004' (or whatever year he decides) get to dre, d.o.c., warren g, nate... it would be c-l-a-s-s-i-c. rbx too, and daz lol
It would probably be another Top Dogg. Snoop doesn't have a classic in him. D.O.C. don't have it in him anymore. Neither does Warren or Daz. We need to let Snoop go. It's that time. He's been around for 10+ years. He's done.
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i think snoop would benefit best from a bullet in the back of his head ;D
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i think snoop would benefit best from a bullet in the back of his head ;D
thats just wrong man...
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Before Snoop became a Pimp, he was coo. But, he wanted to be a Pimp, he wanted to bring back the Funakdelic sound, that ain't gonna happen. That's all he had Koke there for. He wanted the authentic Funk sound. That shit's dead though. He fucked up the last Eastsidaz LP with all the lame shit. He ruined his career with it. Now, Daz and Soopafly lost all talent. Warren G's career is done. Nate Dogg is only one still pumping out any quality. Bad Azz needs to bounce from that weak crew. DPG is officially garbation.
Real talk.
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whats Snoop need to do is stay away from Magic don Juan.,..and stop with this pimp bullshit; Then Get back with Dr.Dre(beats) and E-White(lyrics) in the studio to record some good shit ...Fuck 213 & DPG for now the man gotta save his career...hopefully Puffy will tell him whats up...
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Also he should stop with the C-R-I-P bullshit ...he needs to be storytellin again and talk about everyday situations, sumthin with a message ...sumthin for the street, sumthin for the club...not some bubble gum rap for the kids
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to put it plain and simple,... snoop sucks ass at the moment. he's a full sellout,and dickrides anyone that is hot at the moment, and makes bubblegum songs now all about girls & 'im a p.i.m.p.' gay shit.
he's gone all hollywood without even noticing.
doin songs with justin timberlake, chingy, etc....
snoop's an industry bitch
but snoop dosnt mind, coz all the teenie boppers are buyin his shit
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I cant believe what I'm reading.
So, Snoop is done, Warren's done, the whole DPG is done. The new emcees suck. So...what the fuck are y'all doing here? You dont like westcoast rap and that's it.
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Y'all still don't get it:
the fans do like what snoop dogg does now. this forum is full of fans who luv his music. he still sells millions of copies so obviously people luv him. I personally think snoop is super wack now and so do some others, but for the most part most people like him. so that would be a wrong thing to tell him. he already knows he is a sellout, and his music isn't as good now. He also knows that if he went back to his gangsta style, he would not sell nearly as much. if snoop stayed hard and underground, and didn't have collaborations w/ everyone in the industry (except, for most of the hard gangsta rappers) he wouldn't have, or be making nearly as much money as he does now. If snoop used warren G, soopafly, daz, and fredwreck to do all the beats of his album, do u think it would sell very much? hell no, thats why he gets the neptunes. Snoop works with whoever is hot at the time and is really popular. He makes his music radio, tv, family oriented nowadays because it will sell more. You guys wonder why snoops best appearances are usually not on his albums, its because those raps are usually "harder" and his flow and lyrics are closer to his doggystyle flow. People like the shizzle dizzle nizzle snoop better tho. For some reason most people like the gay ass shit that he does better than what I think are his dopest songs. Snoop is all about the money, and gangsta rap does not sell right now. the westcoast does not sell right now. daz, warren g, (name your favorite westcoast rapper) do not sell a lot of records. why the fuck do you think snoop didn't want warren g to produce the whole 213 album? Is it cause Warren G sucks at producing and Neptunes are better? (Goes and Listens to Warren G f/ RBX - We came here to ride and Snoop Dogg - from the church to the palace) Naw I don't think so. I guarantee you that if, or hopefully when, westcoast gangsta rap has a comeback snoop is going to be right back on the bandwagon, and it will probably be his best album after doggystyle. Too bad I don't think westcoast gangsta rap is gonna have a comeback tho.
if you don't sellout nowadays, then you basically don't sell and make money.